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| Nero
User ID: 545213
11/7/2008 10:37 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Nero, Obama rode in on a white female who had seven black husbands and the line is a white female horse. Obama is not a American he was born in Kenya. Obama has no credenals to run the country and has cult following. HOW MUCH MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED? Oh I know you are one that no matter the proof you will use rude stupid remarks to repely so have at it. And let's not forget a quote from Obama " We live in the greatest Country in the world. Let's get ready to change it." Quoting: ROSEGRAY 545173
What white horse? The image posted was of a statue.
Where in the Bible does it say that the Antichrist would be born in Kenya with no credentials to run a country?
Even if these were Biblical prophecies and they were true in regards to Obama, that would be nothing more than conjecture.
I suggest you pay more attention to the Bikerchurch poster, one of the 10% or so of people posting claiming to be a Christian that seems be familiar with the Bible.
As for the quote, Bush has said a lot of dumber things. He wasn't the Antichrist, but his administration was a bad one for anyone who values freedom, despite Cheney and Rove having plenty of credentials. |
| NataSinner
User ID: 545469
11/7/2008 10:43 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
This entire thread is proof that our education system in this great country is without a doubt an absolute FAILURE. What a sad commentary on America. The only proof I see hear is the proof that right winged religious NUTJOBS have found a use for themselves. Here they all gather to be the butt of every village idiot joke that has ever been told!
poor baby, i see you had nothing better to do this morning except to come here and try to down others for the sole purpose of making yourself feel big. i will endure the ridicule just like Christ endured it. i am not ashamed of Him. i might add that my life is unbelievably better with Him. i could tell you about it but that would be casting pears before the swine. i am neither a right wing fundamentalist nor a leftist hippie. to the left or the right i will not go. the road is straight and narrow,
i pray for you
www.bikerchurch.com,,,check out our website Quoting: BIKERCHURCH GUY
Undoubtedly the Black Magic of the Christ Myth combined with the subterranean sorcery of medieval sacredotalism has partially succeeded, not only in sapping individual initiative, but, also, in suppressing in our Race many of its ancestral leonine traits and superb Barbarian Virtues. But as yet, it has not wholly triumphed in its emasculating necromancy. No! It has not transfigured us all into teams of contented oxen and bunches of earmarked sheep, although that is its final hope. There are some of the grand old stock left alive. Few indeed are they amidst a world of slaves and swine.The lion is still the lion, although his teeth have been most foully filed down by abominable moral codes, his skin made scrofulous with the mange and leprosy of caged peacefulness, his paws fettered by links of slave-voted statutes and an iron collar of State Officialism wound around his regal neck. Someday, sometime, he is destined to break through the vile bonds that have been cunningly laid on him, escape from the wasting decline that originates from unnatural confinement and regain once more his primitive freedom of Action. The treacherous legislators and illustrious statesmen, who are now so eager to teach him the method of growing wool like sheep and how to fit his battle-scarred shoulders to a horse collar, may then be sorry and sad (if they have time) – for he will probably chew them up.Great and powerful governments, Commanding Peace, come into existence only in ages of decadence, when nations are on the downward grade. If the human animal lives a natural, clean life, out on the plains and forests away, where ocean rollers crash along the shore or on the banks of the pouring rivers, he requires no police-force to “protect” him –no usurous Jew to rob him of his harvests – no tax-gathering legislators to vote away his property and no “priests of the Idol” to “save” his soul.It is false standards of morality that debase and enfeeble individuals, tribes and nations. First, in obedience to some sovereign code, they lose their hardihood and increase their numbers. Then, that all may live, they become laborious, submissive to Regulations; and finally, with Death held up by priest-craft as a fearsome Terror, all personal valor fades away.Thus nations of spaniels are manufactured.The normal man is the man who loves, and feasts, and fights, and hunts – the predatory man. The abnormal man is he who toils for a master, half-starves and “thinks” – the Christly dog. The first is a perfect animal; the second, a perfect monster.Every belief that makes a duty of humility – that inspires a people with “moral” courage, only enervates their fiber, corrupts their spirit and prepares them first for thraldom and then for - throttling.It is not possible to conceive of Grand Life without incessant rivalry, perpetual warfare and the implacable hunting of man by man.Terror, torture, agony and the wholesale destruction of feeble and worn out types must mark in future, as in the past, every step forward or backward in evolution, homo-culture and racial displacement.The soil of every nation is an arena, a stamping ground, where only the most vigorous animals may hope to hold their own. What is all history but the epic of a colossal campaign, the final Armageddon of which is never likely to be fought, because, when men cease to fight – they cease to be Men.This old earth is strewn to the very mountain-tops with the fleshless skulls and rain-bleached bones of perished combatants in countless myriads. Every square foot, every inch of soil contains its man.
The evolution (or devolution) of mankind demands the perpetual transfiguration of one man into another, continuous re-incarnation, eternal re-birth, and re-construction.Scientifically considered, the “resurrection of the dead” is not an illusion. Every living organism is formed from the decomposed essence of pre-existent organisms. The “man” of today is actually built out of the grave-mould of his prototypes, perhaps of ages long forgotten. Thus, without death there could be no birth-material, and without conflict, fierce and deadly, there could be no surpassing.But to individuals foolishly trained to bewail their fate, all these commonplace facts are agonizing.
“When we solemnly look upon this perpetual conflict,” writes Schelling with true theocratic pessimism, “it fills us with shuddering sorrow and with boundless alarm – but how can we help it? Hence the veil of sadness that is spread over all nature, the deep indestructible melancholy of all life.”
Like many other philosophers, deceived by appearances, Schelling fancies savage and dreadful that which is pure, mischievous, that which is preservative, and calamitous, that which is benign.The flow of Destruction is as natural and as needful as the flow of water. No human ingenuity can destroy the Immolation of Man nor prevent the shedding of blood – and why should it?Majestic Nature continues on her tragic way serenely, caring naught for the wails of the agonized and panic-stricken nor the protests of defeat, but smiling sadly, proudly (yet somewhat disdainfully in her passing stride) at the victor’s fierce Hurrah. She loves the writhing of sword-blades, rending of tradition, the crunching of bones and the flap of shredded shot torn banners, streaming out savagely (in the night, in the day) over the battle-weary, the mangled dying, and the swollen dead. Christs may come and Christs may go, but Caesar is forever.
Deep, permanent and abiding is the elemental antagonism between the Sociology of “the Man of Nazareth” and the imprescriptable Laws of the Universe. They are as fire and water to each other – irreconcilable. Indeed our planetary system itself shall melt with fervent heat ere the Gallilean’s philosophy can conquer.No human being can ever hope to attain “the perfectibility that is in Christ”. So long as we remain animals, we shall be dominated by animal wants, and animal passions and animal rivalries.
Undoubtedly the Messiah ideal is unattainable, hopeless and especially so upon its reformatory side. However, the world loves to be deceived by some ghastly delusion and that is the reason, perhaps, that it has taken to its bosom this rustic fable, this Gospel of Ineffectuality – this Evangel of Darkness – this Dream of an Israelite slave. “When the Assyrians and after them the Medes and Persians” writes Tacitus, “were masters of the Oriental world, the Jews of all nations, then held in subjection, were deemed the most contemptible.” Christ was a pariah Jew.
Among virile conquering tribes, the Ideal Man is ever the all-daring Jove, the splendid Apollo, the self-reliant Achilles or the Constructive Genius. It is only in centuries of dotage, in ages of canker some down-going and nervous disease, that the Model Man becomes a Christ. The Model Man of our forefathers was Odin, a War Lord, but our Ideal Man is a weeping, horse-whipped Jew.[1] A Jew for a God!The deities of the Greeks and Vikings, Goths and Romans were all (originally) mighty-men-of-valor or virile women of surpassing beauty, afterwards held up (before their warlike posterity) as splendid examples of natural nobility, conscious power, daring courage, shrewdness, sexual vigor and boundless strength of character. The gods and heroes of antiquity spent their vital force in the destruction of monsters, in the seizure of new hunting-grounds, in the slaughtering of tyrants and in the breeding of unconquerable sons.
But Christ! the God of Christendom! the Divine Exemplar! “that Majestic Figure!” What godlike deed did he ever do? What unconquerable sons did he beget?If the “first principles of Christianity” should, by an unforseen miracle, triumph in the elemental conflict that is approaching, assuredly the Anglo-Saxon is played-out, his days numbered, his dominion ended, his sepulcher prepared.
Multitudinous multiplication of Unfit Millions (broods of strumous semi-idiots) must then proceed through dreary, barren, brain-paralyzing centuries, winding up perhaps in a blast of pestilential plague – a Black Death.
The “dead and alive” conditions of the “Celestial” Empire will then be applied to this Western World, and under the thin disguise of “Advancement,” “Progress”, and “Civilization,” an atmosphere of excruciating torture must be artificially created, hostile to all but degenerative forces, as in China. In the name of “goodness”, “righteousness,” and “morality” woe shall be poured out upon our Seed, as it has already been poured out on the rotten Swarms of the Orient.Congenital enfeeblement of body, together with organic degeneracy of mind, must then go on and on, at an ever accelerating ratio until our posterity may end (as Darwin imagined WE began) by becoming chattering apes, without sense enough to light a fire, crack a coconut or swing by their tails.
Behold the modern man! this “heir of all the ages – in the foremost ranks of time!” His sight, taste, smell and hearing are all notoriously defective. He can harness thunderbolts, but the unerring instinct of a carrier-pigeon is beyond him. His brain has become an over-heated thinking engine, but he may not read the daily morning lair without spectacles. He “understands” more things (or thinks he does) but if suddenly removed from his artificial environment, he would perish as helplessly as the Babes-in-the-Wood. He can gauge sound-waves, photograph broken bones, construct gigantic iron monsters, whisper across miles of copper wire, but, when the pointer-dog sniffs the hidden pheasant from afar off, this erudite Bundle-of-Nerves looks on in blank amazement. The fact is that the civilized man is gradually “losing his senses”. If he continues to “progress” at the existing rate, in a comparatively little while he will have no smell, no sight, no hearing.When not thwarted by artificial contrivances, whatever argument Nature promulgates is right. The further man gets away from Nature, the further he departs from right.
To be right is to be natural, and to be natural is to be right. The sun shines, therefore it is right that it should shine – the rainfalls, therefore it is right that it should fall – the tides ebb and flow, therefore it is right that they should ebb and flow.Darwin’s law exists, may be seen in operation, is practicable, of daily demonstration, therefore it, also, is right.
It is not a dream like “Religion”, it is not an invention like “Morals”; it is not an assumption like “God”. It is a cosmic Fact, like the sunshine, the rain and the tides! Nature does not set up Idols, does not found Superstitions, does not invent Decalogues. These toys and fetters have been constructed by man for his own infinite damnation.
Neither morals, laws nor creeds are First Principles, but they may (probably) have their uses, just as guillotines and gardeners hoes have their uses. They may be convenient engines for the deletion of Lower Organisms, for extirpating individuals of infantile intellect. Indeed the secret object of all superstitions possibly is to provide an ultra-rational sanction for fraudulent standards of Right and Wrong.To base a Lie upon a Myth is certainly much safer than to base it on a Reality, for you cannot run a tape-measure over a Myth.
Christliness, as social quietism, has never yet been accepted by men of super-eminent strength, courage and wisdom. Such men have everywhere regarded the Christ Ideal as a model for slavish souls only – to be humored for strategic purposes, but never practiced by masters, conquerors, kings. “Don’t do as I do, but do as I say” has ever been the dicta of High Priests and Rulers to docile multitudes.The evolution of sovereignty satisfactorily exhibits this ethical dictatorship as an historical common-place. Moral codes, (always and everywhere imposed upon the common people by “immoral” combinations of cumulative craft ) are never obeyed by Ruling Castes.
“The Survival of the Fittest” is the scientists translation of the heroic age’s “Viae Victus”. Grim and harsh it may appear to nervous souls, but it is true to nature. Neither legislative enactments nor pious incantations can deflect or nullify it. It may be thwarted and turned aside for a time, but only for a time, just as a river may be banked back by the building of a breastwork. The waters cease to flow onward until the dam is brim-full, and then, over the top the flood leaps, with resounding crash and uproar, finally sweeping away the obstruction itself.
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Hate for hate and ruth for ruth,
Eye for eye and truth for tooth.
Scorn for scorn and smile for smile,
Love for love and guile for guile.
War for war and woe for woe,
Blood for blood and blow for blow.
Thou hast listened full oft, to the diabolic philosophy of the “Divine” Creepling!
“Love your enemies and bless them that hate you and despitefully use you”.
But I say unto you – Love thy kindred, love thy friends, love thyself and hate thine enemies with a whole heart.
Be a foe to your friend’s foe – a friend to your friend’s friend, and above all things, permit no wrong done unto thee or thine, to pass unchallanged, unredressed, unavenged.
Let thy motto be “Tread not on me”.
For, he that tamely submits, to insult and injury is worse than a dog; he is a dastard, a born slave, Christling.
I’m the friend of all brave men,
The foe of all cowards;
I call up high daring,
I cast down despair.
An Evil Spirit hath inoculated our race with the hideous gospel of submissiveness, of degeneracy; –
“Resist not evil” it whines and “If a man smite thee on one cheek, turn to him the other also”.
But I say unto you: – ’If a man smite you on one cheek, smash him on the “other”.
Resist every Evil! Be as a lion in the path!
Be “dangerous”, even in defeat!
Courage, I say! Courage! And evermore Courage! Even the stars in their courses are fight for the bold.
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| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545558
11/7/2008 10:45 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
What white horse? The image posted was of a statue.
Where in the Bible does it say that the Antichrist would be born in Kenya with no credentials to run a country?
Even if these were Biblical prophecies and they were true in regards to Obama, that would be nothing more than conjecture.
I suggest you pay more attention to the Bikerchurch poster, one of the 10% or so of people posting claiming to be a Christian that seems be familiar with the Bible. Quoting: Nero 545213
thanks, i count you as among my friends. i am thinking that maybe he was not high on a white horse but high on "white horse". but that is the way us scottsmen think.
you ought to join up, its free and easy and much less hassle posting
www.bikerchurch.com
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| Nero
User ID: 545213
11/7/2008 10:46 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
This entire thread is proof that our education system in this great country is without a doubt an absolute FAILURE. What a sad commentary on America. The only proof I see hear is the proof that right winged religious NUTJOBS have found a use for themselves. Here they all gather to be the butt of every village idiot joke that has ever been told!
poor baby, i see you had nothing better to do this morning except to come here and try to down others for the sole purpose of making yourself feel big. i will endure the ridicule just like Christ endured it. i am not ashamed of Him. i might add that my life is unbelievably better with Him. i could tell you about it but that would be casting pears before the swine. i am neither a right wing fundamentalist nor a leftist hippie. to the left or the right i will not go. the road is straight and narrow,
i pray for you
www.bikerchurch.com,,,check out our website
VERY WELL PUT!!!!! Quoting: Veronica 534117
Bikerchurch guy, I'm surprised that you don't have more empathy for this fellow. Most of the posters here are either Christian, imply that they're Christian, or pretend to be Christians (see the site's disclaimer re: role-playing), yet their theology seems based more on shitty horror movies and numerological mumbo-jumbo than the Bible or any teachings of the Church fathers. If I were you, I'd be embarrassed that some many proudly ignorant people were representing themselves as Christians. Being a Christian does not equal being a nutjob, but one would be hard pressed to prove it from most of the posts here. I appreciate your attempts to elevate the level of discourse here, but it seems doomed to failure.
And Veronica, mi amor: I KNEW YOU'D COME BACK! WE WILL OVERTHROW THE TEMPLE OF SOLOMON, IF NEED BE, AS WELL AS MOSAIC AND NAZARENE LAW TO CONSECRATE OUR UNION. LET THE PIPE PIPER AND PIPED PIPER (Note to Lotus: still waiting) BEGIN! |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545572
11/7/2008 11:08 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
If I were you, I'd be embarrassed that some many proudly ignorant people were representing themselves as Christians. Being a Christian does not equal being a nutjob, but one would be hard pressed to prove it from most of the posts here. I appreciate your attempts to elevate the level of discourse here, but it seems doomed to failure. Quoting: Nero 545213
ah, and how many dead horses have i beaten and how many have gotten up and walked away.
yes, this has many harbingers of being doomed to failure, yet if i am here and you are here and veronica is here and scared is here and a few others then there are some real people in here and the wisdom and concepts we share and explore may help someone on the path to truth and salvation. so it is worth all the effort to me. plus the discussion, the humor, the views and the rantings of jerks too provides at least a little idle amusement and some enlightenment into the psychology of the human mind. all of these attributes contribute to the wisdom i need in my everyday counselling of folks.
wisdom is not gathered in a big chunk, but in little grains like sand, to be formed and fused like concrete. the largest building is made of grains, the longest journey begins with a single step
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| big coward
User ID: 541726
11/7/2008 11:13 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Ok. enough said. everyone has a point. Lets not get tear each other apart.
Lets agree on a way out of this thread by making a checklist of the anti-christ and how many points obama scores on this list.
the anti-christ is mentioned inthe bible not in the nostradamus crap. so lets limit the checklist to aspects of the anti-christ only as described in the bible.
I'll start of you off.
1. He will be a world leader
2. He must survive a mortally wounding assasinaation attempt.(scares me)
3. Some two prophets must appear and die on national tv.
4. He will bring peace to israel and palestine.
now add to this list and we will keep ticking them off as the obama presidency evolves.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 326376
11/7/2008 11:16 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
You Christians who say Obama is the socalled Antichrist better rethink your position.Many believe that in Rev 13 the antichrist will be fatally injured before Christ returns.Stop trying to predict who the antichrist is and start trying to be more like Christ"love thy neighbor"if some racist/apoclyptic nutjob tries to hurt Obama you're all to blame,some think Muslims are terrorists,remember Timothy McVeigh?He called himselfChristian he justified his act by scripture.ask your pastor for guidance
I have saw no racial comments made in any of this,exe4pt yours,,and if you are going to quote the bibkle know the bible,God forbids any foreigner or woman to lead His people,,to enter into the holiest of holies in the future temple,and their will be NO CAININITE IN THE HOUSE OF THE LORD.
And you sit and justify muslims and obama with scripture,,,with words with out knowledge,you like them so much go live over in their war and aids infestred world,,,get out of the rednec country as you called it.
yeah your the one using racial slangs calling people nut jobs,rednecks,when you love your neighbor you don't use words like that.
Heres another thought,if as you said quoting revelations 13,the antichrist is mortally wounded and comes back,,,who out of all the canadites would be assainated if put in office?Yeah your own words...OBAMA..and the racist/nut job as you called him would be evil for killing the antichrist?Yeah Obama is the prime canadite for the role of the antichrist,,and you are the prime canadite to follow him. Quoting: beloved 372115
What about ha Danim? Danoi? They have been missing for a long time ( pre 1st temple) and are not listed in the 144,000? Are there any serious eschatologist here? Plese. Also the beast that was most fearsome? Toes mixed of iron and miry clay? Thetext is not interpretable by the mind of man w/o the gift of discenrment.... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 326376
11/7/2008 11:21 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Ok. enough said. everyone has a point. Lets not get tear each other apart.
Lets agree on a way out of this thread by making a checklist of the anti-christ and how many points obama scores on this list.
the anti-christ is mentioned inthe bible not in the nostradamus crap. so lets limit the checklist to aspects of the anti-christ only as described in the bible.
I'll start of you off.
1. He will be a world leader
2. He must survive a mortally wounding assasinaation attempt.(scares me)
3. Some two prophets must appear and die on national tv.
4. He will bring peace to israel and palestine.
now add to this list and we will keep ticking them off as the obama presidency evolves.
. Quoting: big coward 541726
Yes. The Greek translation stated Fox . That was what John wrote as he wanted to ensure that in that time"when the transgressoes have come to the full" that the coverage of the murder of the prevously protected witnesses would be "fair and balanced". Maranatha and Sa a lu shalom yerushalyim! |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545572
11/7/2008 11:21 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Ok. enough said. everyone has a point. Lets not get tear each other apart.
Lets agree on a way out of this thread by making a checklist of the anti-christ and how many points obama scores on this list.
the anti-christ is mentioned inthe bible not in the nostradamus crap. so lets limit the checklist to aspects of the anti-christ only as described in the bible.
I'll start of you off.
1. He will be a world leader
2. He must survive a mortally wounding assasinaation attempt.(scares me)
3. Some two prophets must appear and die on national tv.
4. He will bring peace to israel and palestine.
now add to this list and we will keep ticking them off as the obama presidency evolves.
. Quoting: big coward 541726
great suggestion, i am going to save your list, and add to it. thanks. and i might add yet again, i do not think that obama is the antichrist but POSSIBLY is the first of the horsemen of the apocalypse. people like you should consider themselves valuable to the enlightenment of others.
www.bikerchurch.com,,,,,check it out. hooray for saint andrew, hooray for scotland. hooray for GOD AND JESUS
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545469
11/7/2008 11:22 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
If I were you, I'd be embarrassed that some many proudly ignorant people were representing themselves as Christians. Being a Christian does not equal being a nutjob, but one would be hard pressed to prove it from most of the posts here. I appreciate your attempts to elevate the level of discourse here, but it seems doomed to failure.
ah, and how many dead horses have i beaten and how many have gotten up and walked away.
yes, this has many harbingers of being doomed to failure, yet if i am here and you are here and veronica is here and scared is here and a few others then there are some real people in here and the wisdom and concepts we share and explore may help someone on the path to truth and salvation. so it is worth all the effort to me. plus the discussion, the humor, the views and the rantings of jerks too provides at least a little idle amusement and some enlightenment into the psychology of the human mind. all of these attributes contribute to the wisdom i need in my everyday counselling of folks.
wisdom is not gathered in a big chunk, but in little grains like sand, to be formed and fused like concrete. the largest building is made of grains, the longest journey begins with a single step Quoting: BIKERCHURCH GUY
WISDOM you say...LAUGHABLE AT BEST!!!Why is it that our modern philosophers are so mortally afraid to boldly challenge the ‘inspired’ utopianism of this poor, self-deluded, Gallilean mountaineer – this preacher of all eunuch-virtues – of self-abasement, of passive suffering?
The sickly humanitarian ethics, so eloquently rayed forth by Jesus Christ and his superstitious successors in ancient Judea and throughout the moribund Roman empire, are generally accepted in Anglo-Saxondom as the very elixir of immortal wisdom, the purest, wisest, grandest, most incontrovertible of all ‘divine revelations’, or occult thaumauturgies.And yet when closely examined, they are found to be neither divine, occult, reasonable, nor even honest; but composed, almost exclusively of the stuff that nightmares are made of, together with a strong dash of oriental legerdemain.Through a thousand different channels current politico-economic belief is dominated by the base communistic caballa of the ‘man of many sorrows’; yet as a practical theorem, it is hardly ever critically examined. Why is it that the suggested social solutions promulgated by Jesus, Peter, Paul,James and other Asiatic cataleptics are accepted so meekly by us, upon trust? If these men were anything, they were crude socialist reformers with misshapen souls, preachers of ‘a new heaven and a new earth’, that is to say, demagogues – politician-of-the-slums; and out of the slums, nothing that is noble can ever be born.As agitators, Jesus and his modern continuators shall be exclusively considered in these pages. However, it must be distinctly understood, that the spiritual and temporal in all cosmogonies are so intricately interwoven that it is almost impossible to completely divorce them. Like the Siamese twins, Gods and Governments are inextricably bound together; so much so indeed, that if you kill one, the other cannot live.Hence the open or secret alliance that has always existed between the politician and the priest.Whatever their primitive purity (or impurity), all operative creedal philosophies are essentially civil and military codes, police regulations. ‘Religion is a power, a political engine, and if there was no God, I would have to invent one’, said the great Napoleon. In letter and in spirit, Christianity is above all things a political theory, and a theory that often takes the form of raging hysterics.Religions are the matrix in which public institutions are generally molded. This has ever been well understood by the dominant leaders of mankind, from Numa to Brigham Young, from Solon to Loyola, from Constantine to the lowest Levite hireling, who gets paid in dimes and cents for his unctuous mock – ditthyrambs. |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545572
11/7/2008 11:27 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
What about ha Danim? Danoi? They have been missing for a long time ( pre 1st temple) and are not listed in the 144,000? Are there any serious eschatologist here? Plese. Also the beast that was most fearsome? Toes mixed of iron and miry clay? Thetext is not interpretable by the mind of man w/o the gift of discenrment.... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 326376
please tell more, i need to research this info, thanks for helping me to expand my knowledge. i'm just an ignorant hillbilly (true) from the blue ridge and havent been exposed to a lot of these teachings, again i thank you
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| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545572
11/7/2008 11:37 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
In letter and in spirit, Christianity is above all things a political theory, and a theory that often takes the form of raging hysterics.Religions are the matrix in which public institutions are generally molded. This has ever been well understood by the dominant leaders of mankind, from Numa to Brigham Young, from Solon to Loyola, from Constantine to the lowest Levite hireling, who gets paid in dimes and cents for his unctuous mock – ditthyrambs. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 545469
brigham young you say? and how about joseph smith too?
please, lets not open their graves. and just how long did it take you to write all that?
as for Christianity being a theory, it surely is not.as for it being political? i think you are referring not to Christianity but CHURCHIANITY.
www.bikerchurch.com......."Other churches can have their stained glass windows, we will man the lifeboats ONE FOOT FROM THE GATES OF HELL"...CROSSFIRE UMC BIKERCHURCH
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545469
11/7/2008 11:49 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
In letter and in spirit, Christianity is above all things a political theory, and a theory that often takes the form of raging hysterics.Religions are the matrix in which public institutions are generally molded. This has ever been well understood by the dominant leaders of mankind, from Numa to Brigham Young, from Solon to Loyola, from Constantine to the lowest Levite hireling, who gets paid in dimes and cents for his unctuous mock – ditthyrambs.
brigham young you say? and how about joseph smith too?
please, lets not open their graves. and just how long did it take you to write all that?
as for Christianity being a theory, it surely is not.as for it being political? i think you are referring not to Christianity but CHURCHIANITY.
www.bikerchurch.com......."Other churches can have their stained glass windows, we will man the lifeboats ONE FOOT FROM THE GATES OF HELL"...CROSSFIRE UMC BIKERCHURCH Quoting: BIKERCHURCH GUY
Freemen should never regulate their conduct by the suggestions or dicta of others, for when they do so, they are no longer free. No man ought to obey any contract, written orimplied, except he himself has given his personal and formal adherence thereto, when in a state of mental maturity and unrestrained liberty. It is only slaves that are born into contracts, signed and sealed by their progenitors. The freeman is born free, lives free and dies free. He is (even though living in an artificial civilization) above all laws, all constitutions, all theories of right and wrong. He supports and defends them of course, as long as they suit his own end, but if they don’t, thenhe annihilates them by the easiest and most direct method.There is no obligation upon any man to passive obedience, when his life, his liberty and his property are threatened by footpad, assassin or statesman. |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545597
11/7/2008 11:49 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
i seem to see a lot of references to mythology and monsters. why is it referred to as mythology? because it is just that. myths. ledgends and campfire stories of monsters and bogeymen told by leaders in antiquity to control the people by fear. control the information and you control the people! however, this thread is not about mythology. lets get back on track.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545469
11/7/2008 11:59 AM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
i seem to see a lot of references to mythology and monsters. why is it referred to as mythology? because it is just that. myths. ledgends and campfire stories of monsters and bogeymen told by leaders in antiquity to control the people by fear. control the information and you control the people! however, this thread is not about mythology. lets get back on track. Quoting: BIKERCHURCH GUY
It is notorious, universally so, that the blackest falsehoods are ever decked out in the most brilliant and gorgeous regalia. Clearly, therefore it is the brave man’s duty to regard all sacred things, all legal things, all constitutional things, all holy things with more than usual suspicion. “I denyand I affirm,” is the countersign of material freedom. “I believe and I obey” is the shibboleth of serfage. Belief is a flunky , a feminine – Doubt is a creator, a master. He who denies fundamentals is in triple armor clad. Indeed, he is invulnerable.On the other hand, it has been said that every belief, every philosophy has some truth in it, but so, we might add, has every insanity.
Strong men are not deterred from pursuing their aimby anything. They go straight to the goal, and that goal is Beauty, Wealth and Material Power. The mission of Power is to control and exploit the powerless, for to be powerless is to be criminal. The world would indeed be a house of horrors, ifall men were “good” and all women padlocked.
As far as human searchlights have yet penetrated into the darkness that enshrouds the origin of nations, we see the subduers and the subdued, the plebeians and the patricians, the chiefs who governed, and the vassals who obeyed. And there is nothing in the most modern social developments (of these deedless days) to warrant any belief that this ancient and natural division of human animals, into castes of superiors and inferiors, sovereigns and serfs, can ever be dispensed with. The slave-owner’s whip cracked from the beginning, and it will crack till the day of doom. In every kingdom, republic and empire on earth we have (in one disguise or another) the master and the slave – the ruler and the ruled. In the course of centuries names alone have changed, essentials have remained the same. Forms of royalty may alter, but kings can never die.There was mastership at the beginning, and there will be mastership to the end. We build, but as our fathers built.Change is not progress, nor numbers advance.Every one who would be free must show his power.Unalterable remains the basis of all earthly greatness. He who exalteth himself shall be exalted, and he who humbleth himself shall be righteously trodden beneath the hoofs of the herd.“The humble” are only fit for dog’s meat. Bravery includes every virtue, humility, every crime. He who is afraid to risk his life must never be permitted to win anything.Human rights and wrongs are not determined by Justice, but by Might. Disguise it as you may, the naked sword is still king-maker and king-breaker, as of yore. All other theories are lies and lures.
Therefore! If you would conquer wealth and honor, power and fame you must be practical, grim, cool and merciless. You must ride to success (by preference) over the necks of your foemen. Their defeat is your strength. Their downfall is your uplifting. Only the powerful can be free, and Power is non-moral. Life is real, life is earnest, and neither heaven nor hell its final goal. And love, and joy, and birth, and death, and fate, and strife shall be forever.
This earth is a vast whirl of warring atoms – a veritable revolving cock-pit. Each molecule, each animal fights for its life. You must fight for yours, or surrender. Look well to it, therefore, that your beaks and spurs, your fangs and claws are as sharp as steel, and as effective as science can make them.Though, the survival of the strongest is the logic of events, yet personal cowardice is the great vice of our demoralized age. Cowardice is corroding the brain and blood of our race, but men have learnt to disguise this terrible infirmity behind the canting whine of “humanity” and “goodness”. Words flow instead of blood, and terrible insults are exchanged instead of terrible blows.How rich this degenerate world is in small, petty-souled, good-for-nothings, who are forever excusing their infantile ineptitude behind some plausible phrase – some conventional make-believe? |
| Nero
User ID: 543870
11/7/2008 12:29 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
God doesn't give a flying fuck about you.
uhm.....wrong.
God does care.
He cares for
everyone.
kthanksbye.
Then why did he disappoint Scared? Scared doesn't seem to understand his place in the universe, otherwise he wouldn't be disappointed (or scared).
he didn't disappoint me himself i'm just disappointed Obama is prez so get it right before you start saying God disappointed because God would never disappoint me
You stated that you were disappointed with God's decision. Being omniscient, God must have known that this would be a disappointment to you. That was why I concluded that God does not give a flying fuck about you, although it would be more proper to say that He doesn't give a flying fuck about what you want. However, it seems that if he REALLY cared about you, he'd take into consideration what a good God-fearing Christian such as yourself wanted. As I mentioned before,
"Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 18:19) Maybe you weren't able to get anyone to pray with you for McCain? I'm not surprised that you don't have any friends.
If God didn't care about me then I wonder why he has helped me so much through my life...A year ago I thought my life couldn't get any worse...but He really helped me change that around when I went to him for help Quoting: Scared
If God was such a big help, then why should you be disappointed with His decisions? That seems not only petty, but presumptuous and faithless. His used to blast and smite his OCPs in OT times for less.
The Kingdom of Jesus is not of this world, as I recall. So stop worrying about what God is doing to this world and get back to work.
AND BRING ME SOME CAKE (and Veronica). |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545643
11/7/2008 12:33 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
AND BRING ME SOME CAKE (and Veronica). Quoting: Nero 543870
cake will rot your teefers
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| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545643
11/7/2008 12:41 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
heres a little spew from somebody that really has some issuesThis entire thread is proof that our education system in this great country is without a doubt an absolute FAILURE. What a sad commentary on America. The only proof I see hear is the proof that right winged religious NUTJOBS have found a use for themselves. Here they all gather to be the butt of every village idiot joke that has ever been told!
Undoubtedly the Black Magic of the Christ Myth combined with the subterranean sorcery of medieval sacredotalism has partially succeeded, not only in sapping individual initiative, but, also, in suppressing in our Race many of its ancestral leonine traits and superb Barbarian Virtues. But as yet, it has not wholly triumphed in its emasculating necromancy. No! It has not transfigured us all into teams of contented oxen and bunches of earmarked sheep, although that is its final hope. There are some of the grand old stock left alive. Few indeed are they amidst a world of slaves and swine.The lion is still the lion, although his teeth have been most foully filed down by abominable moral codes, his skin made scrofulous with the mange and leprosy of caged peacefulness, his paws fettered by links of slave-voted statutes and an iron collar of State Officialism wound around his regal neck. Someday, sometime, he is destined to break through the vile bonds that have been cunningly laid on him, escape from the wasting decline that originates from unnatural confinement and regain once more his primitive freedom of Action. The treacherous legislators and illustrious statesmen, who are now so eager to teach him the method of growing wool like sheep and how to fit his battle-scarred shoulders to a horse collar, may then be sorry and sad (if they have time) – for he will probably chew them up.Great and powerful governments, Commanding Peace, come into existence only in ages of decadence, when nations are on the downward grade. If the human animal lives a natural, clean life, out on the plains and forests away, where ocean rollers crash along the shore or on the banks of the pouring rivers, he requires no police-force to “protect” him –no usurous Jew to rob him of his harvests – no tax-gathering legislators to vote away his property and no “priests of the Idol” to “save” his soul.It is false standards of morality that debase and enfeeble individuals, tribes and nations. First, in obedience to some sovereign code, they lose their hardihood and increase their numbers. Then, that all may live, they become laborious, submissive to Regulations; and finally, with Death held up by priest-craft as a fearsome Terror, all personal valor fades away.Thus nations of spaniels are manufactured.The normal man is the man who loves, and feasts, and fights, and hunts – the predatory man. The abnormal man is he who toils for a master, half-starves and “thinks” – the Christly dog. The first is a perfect animal; the second, a perfect monster.Every belief that makes a duty of humility – that inspires a people with “moral” courage, only enervates their fiber, corrupts their spirit and prepares them first for thraldom and then for - throttling.It is not possible to conceive of Grand Life without incessant rivalry, perpetual warfare and the implacable hunting of man by man.Terror, torture, agony and the wholesale destruction of feeble and worn out types must mark in future, as in the past, every step forward or backward in evolution, homo-culture and racial displacement.The soil of every nation is an arena, a stamping ground, where only the most vigorous animals may hope to hold their own. What is all history but the epic of a colossal campaign, the final Armageddon of which is never likely to be fought, because, when men cease to fight – they cease to be Men.This old earth is strewn to the very mountain-tops with the fleshless skulls and rain-bleached bones of perished combatants in countless myriads. Every square foot, every inch of soil contains its man.
The evolution (or devolution) of mankind demands the perpetual transfiguration of one man into another, continuous re-incarnation, eternal re-birth, and re-construction.Scientifically considered, the “resurrection of the dead” is not an illusion. Every living organism is formed from the decomposed essence of pre-existent organisms. The “man” of today is actually built out of the grave-mould of his prototypes, perhaps of ages long forgotten. Thus, without death there could be no birth-material, and without conflict, fierce and deadly, there could be no surpassing.But to individuals foolishly trained to bewail their fate, all these commonplace facts are agonizing.
“When we solemnly look upon this perpetual conflict,” writes Schelling with true theocratic pessimism, “it fills us with shuddering sorrow and with boundless alarm – but how can we help it? Hence the veil of sadness that is spread over all nature, the deep indestructible melancholy of all life.”
Like many other philosophers, deceived by appearances, Schelling fancies savage and dreadful that which is pure, mischievous, that which is preservative, and calamitous, that which is benign.The flow of Destruction is as natural and as needful as the flow of water. No human ingenuity can destroy the Immolation of Man nor prevent the shedding of blood – and why should it?Majestic Nature continues on her tragic way serenely, caring naught for the wails of the agonized and panic-stricken nor the protests of defeat, but smiling sadly, proudly (yet somewhat disdainfully in her passing stride) at the victor’s fierce Hurrah. She loves the writhing of sword-blades, rending of tradition, the crunching of bones and the flap of shredded shot torn banners, streaming out savagely (in the night, in the day) over the battle-weary, the mangled dying, and the swollen dead. Christs may come and Christs may go, but Caesar is forever.
Deep, permanent and abiding is the elemental antagonism between the Sociology of “the Man of Nazareth” and the imprescriptable Laws of the Universe. They are as fire and water to each other – irreconcilable. Indeed our planetary system itself shall melt with fervent heat ere the Gallilean’s philosophy can conquer.No human being can ever hope to attain “the perfectibility that is in Christ”. So long as we remain animals, we shall be dominated by animal wants, and animal passions and animal rivalries.
Undoubtedly the Messiah ideal is unattainable, hopeless and especially so upon its reformatory side. However, the world loves to be deceived by some ghastly delusion and that is the reason, perhaps, that it has taken to its bosom this rustic fable, this Gospel of Ineffectuality – this Evangel of Darkness – this Dream of an Israelite slave. “When the Assyrians and after them the Medes and Persians” writes Tacitus, “were masters of the Oriental world, the Jews of all nations, then held in subjection, were deemed the most contemptible.” Christ was a pariah Jew.
Among virile conquering tribes, the Ideal Man is ever the all-daring Jove, the splendid Apollo, the self-reliant Achilles or the Constructive Genius. It is only in centuries of dotage, in ages of canker some down-going and nervous disease, that the Model Man becomes a Christ. The Model Man of our forefathers was Odin, a War Lord, but our Ideal Man is a weeping, horse-whipped Jew.[1] A Jew for a God!The deities of the Greeks and Vikings, Goths and Romans were all (originally) mighty-men-of-valor or virile women of surpassing beauty, afterwards held up (before their warlike posterity) as splendid examples of natural nobility, conscious power, daring courage, shrewdness, sexual vigor and boundless strength of character. The gods and heroes of antiquity spent their vital force in the destruction of monsters, in the seizure of new hunting-grounds, in the slaughtering of tyrants and in the breeding of unconquerable sons.
But Christ! the God of Christendom! the Divine Exemplar! “that Majestic Figure!” What godlike deed did he ever do? What unconquerable sons did he beget?If the “first principles of Christianity” should, by an unforseen miracle, triumph in the elemental conflict that is approaching, assuredly the Anglo-Saxon is played-out, his days numbered, his dominion ended, his sepulcher prepared.
Multitudinous multiplication of Unfit Millions (broods of strumous semi-idiots) must then proceed through dreary, barren, brain-paralyzing centuries, winding up perhaps in a blast of pestilential plague – a Black Death.
The “dead and alive” conditions of the “Celestial” Empire will then be applied to this Western World, and under the thin disguise of “Advancement,” “Progress”, and “Civilization,” an atmosphere of excruciating torture must be artificially created, hostile to all but degenerative forces, as in China. In the name of “goodness”, “righteousness,” and “morality” woe shall be poured out upon our Seed, as it has already been poured out on the rotten Swarms of the Orient.Congenital enfeeblement of body, together with organic degeneracy of mind, must then go on and on, at an ever accelerating ratio until our posterity may end (as Darwin imagined WE began) by becoming chattering apes, without sense enough to light a fire, crack a coconut or swing by their tails.
Behold the modern man! this “heir of all the ages – in the foremost ranks of time!” His sight, taste, smell and hearing are all notoriously defective. He can harness thunderbolts, but the unerring instinct of a carrier-pigeon is beyond him. His brain has become an over-heated thinking engine, but he may not read the daily morning lair without spectacles. He “understands” more things (or thinks he does) but if suddenly removed from his artificial environment, he would perish as helplessly as the Babes-in-the-Wood. He can gauge sound-waves, photograph broken bones, construct gigantic iron monsters, whisper across miles of copper wire, but, when the pointer-dog sniffs the hidden pheasant from afar off, this erudite Bundle-of-Nerves looks on in blank amazement. The fact is that the civilized man is gradually “losing his senses”. If he continues to “progress” at the existing rate, in a comparatively little while he will have no smell, no sight, no hearing.When not thwarted by artificial contrivances, whatever argument Nature promulgates is right. The further man gets away from Nature, the further he departs from right.
To be right is to be natural, and to be natural is to be right. The sun shines, therefore it is right that it should shine – the rainfalls, therefore it is right that it should fall – the tides ebb and flow, therefore it is right that they should ebb and flow.Darwin’s law exists, may be seen in operation, is practicable, of daily demonstration, therefore it, also, is right.
It is not a dream like “Religion”, it is not an invention like “Morals”; it is not an assumption like “God”. It is a cosmic Fact, like the sunshine, the rain and the tides! Nature does not set up Idols, does not found Superstitions, does not invent Decalogues. These toys and fetters have been constructed by man for his own infinite damnation.
Neither morals, laws nor creeds are First Principles, but they may (probably) have their uses, just as guillotines and gardeners hoes have their uses. They may be convenient engines for the deletion of Lower Organisms, for extirpating individuals of infantile intellect. Indeed the secret object of all superstitions possibly is to provide an ultra-rational sanction for fraudulent standards of Right and Wrong.To base a Lie upon a Myth is certainly much safer than to base it on a Reality, for you cannot run a tape-measure over a Myth.
Christliness, as social quietism, has never yet been accepted by men of super-eminent strength, courage and wisdom. Such men have everywhere regarded the Christ Ideal as a model for slavish souls only – to be humored for strategic purposes, but never practiced by masters, conquerors, kings. “Don’t do as I do, but do as I say” has ever been the dicta of High Priests and Rulers to docile multitudes.The evolution of sovereignty satisfactorily exhibits this ethical dictatorship as an historical common-place. Moral codes, (always and everywhere imposed upon the common people by “immoral” combinations of cumulative craft ) are never obeyed by Ruling Castes.
“The Survival of the Fittest” is the scientists translation of the heroic age’s “Viae Victus”. Grim and harsh it may appear to nervous souls, but it is true to nature. Neither legislative enactments nor pious incantations can deflect or nullify it. It may be thwarted and turned aside for a time, but only for a time, just as a river may be banked back by the building of a breastwork. The waters cease to flow onward until the dam is brim-full, and then, over the top the flood leaps, with resounding crash and uproar, finally sweeping away the obstruction itself.
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Hate for hate and ruth for ruth,
Eye for eye and truth for tooth.
Scorn for scorn and smile for smile,
Love for love and guile for guile.
War for war and woe for woe,
Blood for blood and blow for blow.
Thou hast listened full oft, to the diabolic philosophy of the “Divine” Creepling!
“Love your enemies and bless them that hate you and despitefully use you”.
But I say unto you – Love thy kindred, love thy friends, love thyself and hate thine enemies with a whole heart.
Be a foe to your friend’s foe – a friend to your friend’s friend, and above all things, permit no wrong done unto thee or thine, to pass unchallanged, unredressed, unavenged.
Let thy motto be “Tread not on me”.
For, he that tamely submits, to insult and injury is worse than a dog; he is a dastard, a born slave, Christling.
I’m the friend of all brave men,
The foe of all cowards;
I call up high daring,
I cast down despair.
An Evil Spirit hath inoculated our race with the hideous gospel of submissiveness, of degeneracy; –
“Resist not evil” it whines and “If a man smite thee on one cheek, turn to him the other also”.
But I say unto you: – ’If a man smite you on one cheek, smash him on the “other”.
Resist every Evil! Be as a lion in the path!
Be “dangerous”, even in defeat!
Courage, I say! Courage! And evermore Courage! Even the stars in their courses are fight for the bold.
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boy, with fiends like you, who needs enemas? quit dreedleing and get back to work
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| Scared
User ID: 543870
11/7/2008 12:48 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
God doesn't give a flying fuck about you.
uhm.....wrong.
God does care.
He cares for
everyone.
kthanksbye.
Then why did he disappoint Scared? Scared doesn't seem to understand his place in the universe, otherwise he wouldn't be disappointed (or scared).
he didn't disappoint me himself i'm just disappointed Obama is prez so get it right before you start saying God disappointed because God would never disappoint me
You stated that you were disappointed with God's decision. Being omniscient, God must have known that this would be a disappointment to you. That was why I concluded that God does not give a flying fuck about you, although it would be more proper to say that He doesn't give a flying fuck about what you want. However, it seems that if he REALLY cared about you, he'd take into consideration what a good God-fearing Christian such as yourself wanted. As I mentioned before,
"Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 18:19) Maybe you weren't able to get anyone to pray with you for McCain? I'm not surprised that you don't have any friends.
If God didn't care about me then I wonder why he has helped me so much through my life...A year ago I thought my life couldn't get any worse...but He really helped me change that around when I went to him for help
If God was such a big help, then why should you be disappointed with His decisions? That seems not only petty, but presumptuous and faithless. His used to blast and smite his OCPs in OT times for less.
The Kingdom of Jesus is not of this world, as I recall. So stop worrying about what God is doing to this world and get back to work.
AND BRING ME SOME CAKE (and Veronica). Quoting: Nero 543870
I've changed my mind. Sarah Palin is the Antichrist.
We know this- 1. Paln is a Muslim.
We also know that John McCain was tortured by the Vietnamese., she (yes, SHE) was brainwashed to become a communist. In WW 2, heroes won medals of honor, in Vietnam, homosexuals were brainwashed by communists.
Also, we know Sarah Palin, is a Russian. She hates god, Also she is a muslim. Also she is Canadian (likes hockey) She is on the inside (helped by McCain.) to terrorize our country. PLEASE the Saudis bought the last 8 years from the Bushes. Stop the Muslim invasion of our country. A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for the terrorists, also the homosexuals, and the communists, and the women who wear blankets to the local Wal-Wart cinched with fanny packs.
HOW MUCH EVIDENCE DO YOU NEED?!?!?!? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 543870
11/7/2008 1:01 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
heres a little spew from somebody that really has some issues
Undoubtedly the Black Magic of the Christ Myth
en] Quoting: BIKERCHURCH GUY
It's pretty good for a popularized version of Nietzsche: Anton LaVey, to be exact. He had some issues (I cleaned out his garage, so I know a bit more about the specific issues than many), but don't we all have our issues? He seemes to have had fewer issues than Nietzsche, at any rate.
I'll join the moment that fiery-eyed beauty, Heidi, implores me to do so. |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545643
11/7/2008 1:07 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
I've changed my mind. Sarah Palin is the Antichrist.
We know this- 1. Paln is a Muslim.
We also know that John McCain was tortured by the Vietnamese., she (yes, SHE) was brainwashed to become a communist. In WW 2, heroes won medals of honor, in Vietnam, homosexuals were brainwashed by communists.
Also, we know Sarah Palin, is a Russian. She hates god, Also she is a muslim. Also she is Canadian (likes hockey) She is on the inside (helped by McCain.) to terrorize our country. PLEASE the Saudis bought the last 8 years from the Bushes. Stop the Muslim invasion of our country. A vote for McCain/Palin is a vote for the terrorists, also the homosexuals, and the communists, and the women who wear blankets to the local Wal-Wart cinched with fanny packs.
HOW MUCH EVIDENCE DO YOU NEED?!?!?!? Quoting: Scared 543870
now wait a minute,,,,WHERE IS ANYTHING SAID ABOUT THE ANTICHRIST BEING A MUSLIM? remember, muslim/islam did not even come into existence until 400 years AFTER the revelation of st john the divine. any possible reference to the ac being muslim is totally outside christian teachings. i do not say that he will not be muslim i say that this is not prophesied. and of course if the antichrist is foretold, then it is foretold by the bible and not someone elses fanciful fears and hatred of muslims.
be careful what you let others tell you, do your research.
as for palin being ac? nope, she's female. the antichrist will be a man daniel 7:24/25 heres a list of biblical prophesy, note that much of it comes from the old testament/daniel. the old testament foretold Christ five hundred years before he appeared, so we can be sure that the prophesy of the ac is just as accurate
1. The antichrist will be a man - Daniel 7:24-25
2. He will confirm a covenant for 7 years - Daniel 9:27
Now also, this does not mean that he creates this covenant. The word here for "confirm" is 1396 gabar (gaw-bar'); a primitive root; to be strong; by implication, to prevail, act insolently: KJV-- exceed, confirm, be great, be mighty, prevail, put to more [strength], strengthen, be stronger, be valiant. The antichrist will strengthen a covenant for a 7 year time span. Now this could be an existing covenant (like the Jerusalem Covenant) or a new covenant drawn up at that time.
3. He will rise among 10 kings - Daniel 7:8
This 10 nation union will be a revived Holy Roman Empire - Daniel 2:44
4. He will uproot 3 kings from the original 10 kings to gain political power - Daniel 7:8
5. His 10 nation union will merge into a world government which he will dominate - Revelation 13:1-2
Now this also, could refer to several things. First, the 10 nations could merge into an EXISTING world government, such as the U.N. Or it could for a new world government, much like the U.N. Or, this 10 nation confederation could be something like the new 10 nation common stock market. A union like this would definitely rule the world, without having a "seat" of power. Whoever controls the money, controls the globe.
6. He will ascend to power on a platform of peace. By peace, he will destroy many - Daniel 8:25
7. He will be promoted and exalted by a miracle working religious partner (false prophet) - Revelation 13:11-12
8. He was, and is not, and yet is - Revelation 17:8
More than likely this is referring to political power. The antichrist will have ruled, but then be taken out of power. Only to rise back up again to power as the head of the One World Government.
9. The world government over which he rules will be a red (communistic or socialistic) government - Revelation 17:14
10. The antichrist will be preceded by 7 kings or rulers. He will be the 8th king. He will also be "of" the 7 - Revelation 17:11
Now this scripture has many different ways it can be viewed. The word "goeth" in the scripture is 5217 hupago (hoop-ag'-o); from 5259 and 71; to lead (oneself) under, i.e. withdraw or retire (as if sinking out of sight), literally or figuratively: KJV-- depart, get hence, go (a-) way. So we see that he will withdraw or retire from sight. But will rise back up again to power. Now this could be taken as to mean 7 kings. Or this could be taken as 7 World Governments that have ruled. So far there have been 6. 1. Egypt. 2. Assyria. 3. Babylon. 4. Medo-Persia. 5. Greece. 6. Rome
11. He will have a mouth speaking great things. Very boastful - Daniel 7:8
12. His look will be more stout than his fellows - Daniel 7:20
The word "stout" means 7227 rab (rab); by contracted from 7231; abundant (in quantity, size, age, number, rank, quality): KJV-- (in) abound (-undance, -ant, -antly), captain, elder, enough, exceedingly, full, great (-ly, man, one), increase, long (enough, [time]), (do, have) many (-ifold, things, a time), ([ship-]) master, mighty, more, (too, very) much, multiply (-tude), officer, often [-times], plenteous, populous, prince, process [of time], suffice (-lent). So this can have several meanings. It could mean one of the following: the antichrist will be larger in size than everybody else, will be older than everybody else, will have more of a "following" than anybody else, is a higher military or political rank than anybody else, or is more qualified than anybody else. What ever this verse is speaking about, it is obvious when you look at him.
13. He will have a fierce countenance - Daniel 8:23
14. He will understand puzzling things - Daniel 8:23
15. He will cause craft to prosper - Daniel 8:25
It is interesting to note the definition of the word "craft" here. It is 4820 mirmah (meer-maw'); from 7411 in the sense of deceiving; fraud: KJV-- craft, deceit (-ful, -fully), false, feigned, guile, subtilly, treachery. No wonder, for the Bible says that he is the father of lies. So his policy or his success will make it possible for his deception of the world to prosper. God said that if you do not believe the truth, that he would send strong delusion that you should believe a lie.
16. He apparently assumes world dominating power 3 1/2 years after he confirms the covenant. He then will continue to reign for 42 months - Revelation 13:5
17. The Abomination of Desolation is the event that signals the beginning of this final 42 months - Daniel 9:27
It is interesting to note, that many scholars believe that at the Abomination of Desolation is when Revelations 12:7-10 occurs. At which point the Antichrist becomes "possessed" by Satan himself and then forces the Mark or death upon everybody.
18. He opposes God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4
19. He will speak marvelous things against the God of gods - Daniel 11:36
20. He will exalt himself above all that is called God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4
21. He will sit in the temple of God - 2 Thessalonians 2:4
22. He will claim to be God (or an incarnation of God) - 2 Thessalonians 2:4
23. He will take away the daily sacrifices from the temple - Daniel 11:31
24. He will plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain - Daniel 11:45
It would seem here that the Antichrist will setup small "fortifications" in between the sea and Jerusalem, to help keep control over things in distant areas away from the main offices.
25. He will have power to make war with the saints and to overcome them - Revelation 13:7
26. He will continue this war with the saints for 3 1/2 years - Daniel 7:21, 25
27. This time of Great Tribulation is launched upon the Earth by the antichrist at the Abomination of Desolation. - Matthew 24:15,21.
Up until this time, it would seem that he is a man of peace and not war. But now he shows his true colors. Perhaps is possessed by Satan himself at this point as well. Which would account for the false front being dropped at this time.
28. During this time, the antichrist will scatter the power of the holy people - Daniel 12:7
29. He will rule a mighty and strong kingdom - Daniel 7:7
30. He was given power over all kindreds, tongues and nations - Revelation 13:7
31. His kingdom will devour the whole earth - Daniel 7:23
32. He will have great military power that will stand behind him, to enforce his laws - Daniel 11:31
33. He will try to change times and laws; and they will be given into his power for 3 1/2 years - Daniel 7:25
34. He will give great honor to the God of forces, with gold, silver, jewels, etc - Daniel 11:38
35. He will prosper in everything that he does - Daniel 8:24
36. He will not regard the God of his fathers - Daniel 11:37
37. He will not regard the desire of women - Daniel 11:37
It is interesting to note here that most people think that he will be a homosexual, which could be. But rather I think that he will place limitations upon children being born. Similar to what is being done in China now. Why? Because it is the natural desire of a woman, that God has given to them, to be a mother. By not regarding this natural desire, he would cause a "forced" limit on the amount of children a woman was "allowed" to have.
38. The mark of the beast will be the amount of his name - Revelation 14:11
39. All that dwell upon the Earth will worship him, except those who's names are written in the Lamb's Book of Life - Revelation 15:2
40. He will have an image made after him - Revelation 15:2
This could also be in reference to his kingdom's logo or insignia. Much like the U.N. has a logo that every soldier on a U.N. mission must wear, there might also be a logo or insignia that his armies would have to wear
His coming will be after the workings of Satan - 2 Thessalonians 2:8
41. He will fight against Jesus Christ at Armageddon (and loose I might add!) - Revelation 17:14
42. He will stand against the Prince of princes - Daniel 8:25
43. The Lord will consume him with the spirit of his mouth (which is the Word of God) - 2 Thessalonians 2:8
44. The Lord will destroy him with the brightness of his coming (which is his glory) - 2 Thessalonians 2:8
45. He will be cast alive into the lake of fire - Revelation 19:20
46. He will be tormented day and night for ever and ever - Revelation 20:10
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| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545643
11/7/2008 1:09 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
heres a little spew from somebody that really has some issues
Undoubtedly the Black Magic of the Christ Myth
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It's pretty good for a popularized version of Nietzsche: Anton LaVey, to be exact. He had some issues (I cleaned out his garage, so I know a bit more about the specific issues than many), but don't we all have our issues? He seemes to have had fewer issues than Nietzsche, at any rate.
I'll join the moment that fiery-eyed beauty, Heidi, implores me to do so. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 543870
heidi? what happened to your love affair with veronikky?
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| Veronica
User ID: 534117
11/7/2008 1:10 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
God doesn't give a flying fuck about you.
uhm.....wrong.
God does care.
He cares for
everyone.
kthanksbye.
Then why did he disappoint Scared? Scared doesn't seem to understand his place in the universe, otherwise he wouldn't be disappointed (or scared).
he didn't disappoint me himself i'm just disappointed Obama is prez so get it right before you start saying God disappointed because God would never disappoint me
You stated that you were disappointed with God's decision. Being omniscient, God must have known that this would be a disappointment to you. That was why I concluded that God does not give a flying fuck about you, although it would be more proper to say that He doesn't give a flying fuck about what you want. However, it seems that if he REALLY cared about you, he'd take into consideration what a good God-fearing Christian such as yourself wanted. As I mentioned before,
"Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 18:19) Maybe you weren't able to get anyone to pray with you for McCain? I'm not surprised that you don't have any friends.
If God didn't care about me then I wonder why he has helped me so much through my life...A year ago I thought my life couldn't get any worse...but He really helped me change that around when I went to him for help
If God was such a big help, then why should you be disappointed with His decisions? That seems not only petty, but presumptuous and faithless. His used to blast and smite his OCPs in OT times for less.
The Kingdom of Jesus is not of this world, as I recall. So stop worrying about what God is doing to this world and get back to work.
AND BRING ME SOME CAKE (and Veronica). Quoting: Nero 543870
I am not dissapointed in God's decisions. Sometimes in life God's choices for us are better then the one's we make for ourselves.
All this stuff is meant to happen. So we just have to deal with it. I don't like it, but there has been alot of stuff in my life that I didn't like doing, but actually worked out for the best.
He only wants the best for us. |
| BIKERCHURCH GUY
User ID: 545643
11/7/2008 1:12 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
heres a little spew from somebody that really has some issues
Undoubtedly the Black Magic of the Christ Myth
en]
It's pretty good for a popularized version of Nietzsche: Anton LaVey, to be exact. He had some issues (I cleaned out his garage, so I know a bit more about the specific issues than many), but don't we all have our issues? He seemes to have had fewer issues than Nietzsche, at any rate.
I'll join the moment that fiery-eyed beauty, Heidi, implores me to do so.
heidi? what happened to your love affair with veronikky? Quoting: BIKERCHURCH GUY
wait, that was nero wasn't it?
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| Veronica
User ID: 534117
11/7/2008 2:12 PM
 | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Nero, Obama rode in on a white female who had seven black husbands and the line is a white female horse. Obama is not a American he was born in Kenya. Obama has no credenals to run the country and has cult following. HOW MUCH MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED? Oh I know you are one that no matter the proof you will use rude stupid remarks to repely so have at it. And let's not forget a quote from Obama " We live in the greatest Country in the world. Let's get ready to change it."
What white horse? The image posted was of a statue.
Where in the Bible does it say that the Antichrist would be born in Kenya with no credentials to run a country?
Even if these were Biblical prophecies and they were true in regards to Obama, that would be nothing more than conjecture.
I suggest you pay more attention to the Bikerchurch poster, one of the 10% or so of people posting claiming to be a Christian that seems be familiar with the Bible.
As for the quote, Bush has said a lot of dumber things. He wasn't the Antichrist, but his administration was a bad one for anyone who values freedom, despite Cheney and Rove having plenty of credentials. Quoting: Nero 545213
So we all know you don't believe he is the anti-christ, or that there is even an anti-christ, but how do you feel about him being our President? |
| ryan
User ID: 545764
11/7/2008 3:19 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
the NOI prophesied the final muhommed (a muslim) would come into the world from the union of a white female and black male based on their interpretation of the story of Mary Magdelin and Jesus Christ; being white and black respective. Obama fulfills this.
Obama hails from chicago whose zipcode is 60606 (do you see the three sixes ?)
Obama would be a "black" president in the "white" house (satan is described as black in attribute and who seeks to take over the white mansion known as heaven).
Obama's first name is JEWISH! which means blessed [baruch].
Obama is MUSLIM Quoting: Anonymous Coward 250177
wow you americans really are uneducated and misinformed. what a disgraceful people you are. i am so glad and proud not to be a part of such a hateful racist greedy selfish nation. good luck to all of you, you need it.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 545775
11/7/2008 3:26 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Your Dumb ,
There is will never be a difference between Racism and having Pride for your historical upbringing , I dont know about you but im proud of were i come from and will not sit around when people like you think that days from now all of a sudden rainbows will appear and sunchine will glow we will all take eachothers hands and begin singing & prancing in a circle , fuck that shit srry will never happen . The Cocksucker is probably the antichrist , Sure glad im not american and have to think about what ive did when i voted for the 3rd antichrist when he sets fire to your country burns your houses down and kills your family . No sir i will be sitting in the same spot drinking wine spritzers and enjoying fine caviar , Do you history shithead. The fucker is a muslim did'nt you see his smiling sneering face behind his Gi'hadist Head dress? |
| Concerned
User ID: 545775
11/7/2008 3:29 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
Your Dumb ,
There is will never be a difference between Racism and having Pride for your historical upbringing , I dont know about you but im proud of were i come from and will not sit around when people like you think that days from now all of a sudden rainbows will appear and sunchine will glow we will all take eachothers hands and begin singing & prancing in a circle , fuck that shit srry will never happen . The Cocksucker is probably the antichrist , Sure glad im not american and have to think about what ive did when i voted for the 3rd antichrist when he sets fire to your country burns your houses down and kills your family . No sir i will be sitting in the same spot drinking wine spritzers and enjoying fine caviar , Do you history shithead. The fucker is a muslim did'nt you see his smiling sneering face behind his Gi'hadist Head dress? |
| Nero
User ID: 543870
11/7/2008 3:35 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
So we all know you don't believe he is the anti-christ, or that there is even an anti-christ, but how do you feel about him being our President? Quoting: Veronica
1. I thought we've already had the Antichrist: wasn't it a Roman Emperor, or a Pope (or all of them), or every and anyone who preaches false doctrines?
Wasn't it generally believed by members of the primitive (not a pejorative term, for the benefit of those who combine ignorance of history with tender sensibilities) church that the Antichrist and Second Coming would come to pass before the generation of the Apostles had died out (as Jesus said)?
For those Jews who didn't and don't believe that Jesus was the prophesized Messiah of the OT, they're still waiting for the Christ and the shortly-to-follow Antichrist. I don't know how long they'll be waiting: I don't claim to be a prophet (other than prophecizing that there will be no Rapture/Tribulation/Endtime during Obama's term and the 7 or however many years following it, and that the world will not end in 2016: mark my words, when these things do not come to pass, you will mark my words, and realize that you should have MARKED MY WORDS).
BTW, how many of the serious Christian posters here believe the Rapture/Tribulation scenarios? Just curious.
2. I've got pretty low expectations for politicians, but the current administration was astonishingly bad. I don't care for swings towards totalitarianism, whether socialist or plutocratic, and Obama is not going to be able to make the US half as socialist as, say, Norway.
At least I won't have to make so many excuses for the lameness of the US government (remember kids, loving one's government is not the definition of patriotism) when I go abroad, since Obama seems more diplomatically inclined than Bush's people. That's good enough for me.
3. Glad to have you back, Ronnie (or Heidi, if I may call you that - just so there's something distinctly between us, that no one else shares, not even the Pipe/Piped Piper). Now ditch the zero and get with the hero! |
| Nero
User ID: 543870
11/7/2008 3:39 PM | | Re: Barak Obama is the anti-christ and i have the proof! | Quote |
the NOI prophesied the final muhommed (a muslim) would come into the world from the union of a white female and black male based on their interpretation of the story of Mary Magdelin and Jesus Christ; being white and black respective. Obama fulfills this.
Obama hails from chicago whose zipcode is 60606 (do you see the three sixes ?)
Obama would be a "black" president in the "white" house (satan is described as black in attribute and who seeks to take over the white mansion known as heaven).
Obama's first name is JEWISH! which means blessed [baruch].
Obama is MUSLIM
wow you americans really are uneducated and misinformed. what a disgraceful people you are. i am so glad and proud not to be a part of such a hateful racist greedy selfish nation. good luck to all of you, you need it.
out Quoting: ryan 545764
Not that there aren't a lot of dumbshits on this thread, not to mention running around in this country, but I'll wager therre are even dumbshits where YOU live. Remember, I get to talk shit about it, because I live here. You find some shit to talk about the dumbshits that you live with. Or you can tell me where you live, and I'll come up with some shit to talk about the dumb shit element of your fair land. Now go put some more dog food in your mama's bowl. |
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