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Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger?
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MJ
User ID: 291023
1/9/2008 3:00 PM
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Here is a screenshot of an online real time sky chart.
[link to www.hohmanntransfer.com]
It shows the paths of objects that are passing Earth at less than ten lunar distances (LD). Objects in white are outside ten LD at the date and time shown, green inside ten LD, yellow inside Earth's Hill Sphere, orange inside two LD, and red inside one LD of Earth -- all from JPL SSD Horizons data.
Here's a finder chart for 2007 TU24.
The timeframe is 2007-01-28 18:00UT to 2007-01-29 06:00UT
Stars are shown to mag +7.5.
[link to www.webtreatz.com]
Simulator
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
You may have all heard about Asteroid TU24 that is approaching fast. What suprises me is that it is an unknown entity, and was only discovered in October 2007. They have not had a long time to be so sure of its orbit, not that i am saying that they are incorrect, but there have been differing reports of what distance it will be away from Earth.
2007 TU24 - approaching
Approximate diameter: 316 meters (H=20.153)
Closest Earth approach: 1.44 LD at 0830 UTC on 29 Jan.
Inside ten LD of Earth: 24 Jan. until 3 Feb.
Inside Earth's Hill sphere: 27 to 31 Jan.
Closest Moon approach: 2.20 LD at 1537 UTC 29 Jan.
Data based on: JPL SSD orbit solution #15 downloaded 2 Jan.
Optical observation: observed from 14 locations during 82.5097 days
discovered at 0626 UTC on 11 Oct. by the Catalina Sky Survey
last observed at 1840 UTC on 1 Jan. by Schiaparelli Obs.
[link to www.hohmanntransfer.com]
I started doing a bit of research and i will post what i have found.
Here is a You-Tube vid on the subject.
[link to youtube.com]
Goldstone Asteroid Schedule say that it is an " Extremely Strong Target"
[link to echo.jpl.nasa.gov]
A NASA observatory.
At 21:33:52UT TU24 is within 3" of star TYC 1754-230-2 (mag 9.92 in pisces). It would be easy to see real time motion when this appulse occurs.
Now some of the Science from NASA.
JPL/HORIZONS (2007 TU24) 2008-Jan-09 10:54:49
Rec #:613964 (+COV) Soln.date: 2008-Jan-02_00:50:06 # obs: 92 (2007-2008)
FK5/J2000.0 helio. ecliptic osc. elements (AU, DAYS, DEG, period=Julian yrs):
EPOCH= 2454397.5 ! 2007-Oct-24.00 (CT) Residual RMS= .41118
EC= .5290345627342125 QR= .9465669151541721 TP= 2454473.282346976
OM= 127.1754930962541 W= 333.590364051799 IN= 5.801059078188892
A= 2.009843696067193 MA= 333.7862774111327 ADIST= 3.073120476980213
PER= 2.84939 N= .345908033 ANGMOM= .020695015
DAN= .98203 DDN= 2.75066 L= 100.8828646
B= -2.5766911 TP= 2008-Jan-07.7823470
Physical parameters (KM, SEC, rotational period in hours):
GM= n.a. RAD= n.a. ROTPER= n.a.
H= 20.153 G= .150 B-V= n.a.
ALBEDO= n.a. STYP= n.a.
ASTEROID comments:
1: soln ref.= JPL#15, PHA OCC=5
2: source=ORB
Results
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Ephemeris / WWW_USER Wed Jan 9 10:54:50 2008 Pasadena, USA / Horizons
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Target body name: (2007 TU24) {source: JPL#15}
Center body name: Earth (399) {source: DE405}
Center-site name: GEOCENTRIC
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Start time : A.D. 2008-Jan-09 00:00:00.0000 UT
Stop time : A.D. 2008-Feb-08 00:00:00.0000 UT
Step-size : 1440 minutes
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Target pole/equ : No model available
Target radii : (unavailable)
Center geodetic : .000000000,.000000000,.00000000 {E-lon(deg),Lat(deg),Alt(km)}
Center cylindric: .000000000,.000000000,.00000000 {E-lon(deg),Dxy(km),Dz(km)}
Center pole/equ : High-precision EOP model {East-longitude +}
Center radii : 6378.1 x 6378.1 x 6356.8 km {Equator, meridian, pole}
Target primary : Sun {source: DE405}
Interfering body: MOON (Req= 1737.400) km {source: DE405}
Deflecting body : Sun, EARTH {source: DE405}
Deflecting GMs : 1.3271E+11, 3.9860E+05 km^3/s^2
Small perturbers: Ceres, Pallas, Vesta {source: SB405-CPV-2}
Small body GMs : 6.32E+01, 1.43E+01, 1.78E+01 km^3/s^2
Atmos refraction: NO (AIRLESS)
RA format : HMS
Time format : CAL
EOP file : eop.080108.p080331
EOP coverage : DATA-BASED 1962-JAN-20 TO 2008-JAN-08. PREDICTS-> 2008-MAR-30
Units conversion: 1 AU= 149597870.691 km, c= 299792.458 km/s, 1 day= 86400.0 s
Table cut-offs 1: Elevation (-90.0deg=NO ),Airmass (>38.000=NO), Daylight (NO )
Table cut-offs 2: Solar Elongation ( 0.0,180.0=NO )
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Initial FK5/J2000.0 heliocentric ecliptic osculating elements (AU, DAYS, DEG):
EPOCH= 2454397.5 ! 2007-Oct-24.00 (CT) Residual RMS= .41118
EC= .5290345627342125 QR= .9465669151541721 TP= 2454473.282346976
OM= 127.1754930962541 W= 333.590364051799 IN= 5.801059078188892
Asteroid physical parameters (KM, SEC, rotational period in hours):
GM= n.a. RAD= n.a. ROTPER= n.a.
H= 20.153 G= .150 B-V= n.a.
ALBEDO= n.a. STYP= n.a.
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Date__(UT)__HR:MN R.A._(ICRF/J2000.0)_DEC APmag delta deldot S-O-T /r S-T-O
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$$SOE
2008-Jan-09 00:00 00 11 40.74 -22 45 08.2 19.18 .107374530354436 -8.9173423 67.0766 /T 106.9258
2008-Jan-10 00:00 00 12 25.66 -22 37 09.3 19.13 .102212856140578 -8.9545009 66.3468 /T 107.9780
2008-Jan-11 00:00 00 13 10.49 -22 28 36.7 19.08 .097030652057499 -8.9884388 65.6194 /T 109.0271
2008-Jan-12 00:00 00 13 55.29 -22 19 24.5 19.03 .091829772826320 -9.0191729 64.8950 /T 110.0721
2008-Jan-13 00:00 00 14 40.18 -22 09 24.9 18.96 .086612068220285 -9.0467036 64.1744 /T 111.1117
2008-Jan-14 00:00 00 15 25.29 -21 58 28.1 18.89 .081379392515382 -9.0710150 63.4586 /T 112.1446
2008-Jan-15 00:00 00 16 10.82 -21 46 21.5 18.82 .076133613409837 -9.0920765 62.7489 /T 113.1689
2008-Jan-16 00:00 00 16 57.06 -21 32 48.6 18.73 .070876620518654 -9.1098427 62.0473 /T 114.1823
2008-Jan-17 00:00 00 17 44.40 -21 17 27.3 18.63 .065610334145808 -9.1242522 61.3563 /T 115.1819
2008-Jan-18 00:00 00 18 33.43 -20 59 47.6 18.52 .060336715891789 -9.1352218 60.6794 /T 116.1635
2008-Jan-19 00:00 00 19 24.98 -20 39 07.8 18.39 .055057784612758 -9.1426325 60.0220 /T 117.1215
2008-Jan-20 00:00 00 20 20.28 -20 14 28.2 18.25 .049775645999826 -9.1462937 59.3917 /T 118.0479
2008-Jan-21 00:00 00 21 21.18 -19 44 20.2 18.07 .044492554593191 -9.1458602 58.8003 /T 118.9302
2008-Jan-22 00:00 00 22 30.60 -19 06 27.7 17.86 .039211049423151 -9.1406472 58.2667 /T 119.7494
2008-Jan-23 00:00 00 23 53.27 -18 17 10.1 n.a. .033934254312339 -9.1292123 57.8221 /T 120.4735
2008-Jan-24 00:00 00 25 37.34 -17 10 05.0 n.a. .028666560013865 -9.1083579 57.5231 /T 121.0456
2008-Jan-25 00:00 00 27 58.03 -15 33 09.7 n.a. .023415280286747 -9.0704398 57.4807 /T 121.3539
2008-Jan-26 00:00 00 31 27.22 -13 00 39.7 n.a. .018195208651185 -8.9946986 57.9451 /T 121.1472
2008-Jan-27 00:00 00 37 24.47 -08 26 44.3 15.50 .013044011023080 -8.8111184 59.6024 /T 119.7372
2008-Jan-28 00:00 00 50 18.41 +01 52 15.1 14.11 .008094844020677 -8.1760826 65.0282 /T 114.5422
2008-Jan-29 00:00 01 39 56.79 +35 58 58.0 11.44 .004155194571809 -4.1732055 88.5392 /T 91.2183
2008-Jan-30 00:00 09 59 05.62 +65 15 50.8 10.47 .005050783934319 6.2567534 131.1529 /L 48.6271
2008-Jan-31 00:00 11 36 05.44 +44 52 02.2 11.70 .009497368746752 8.4645796 136.2088 /L 43.4127
2008-Feb-01 00:00 11 53 13.13 +37 17 26.9 12.62 .014532728125780 8.8854871 136.2723 /L 43.1510
2008-Feb-02 00:00 12 00 07.83 +33 35 58.4 13.29 .019710674514148 9.0261275 136.3646 /L 42.8572
2008-Feb-03 00:00 12 03 46.61 +31 26 16.5 13.79 .024944309824332 9.0922225 136.6782 /L 42.3463
2008-Feb-04 00:00 12 05 57.40 +30 01 20.6 14.20 .030207359676843 9.1321502 137.1514 /L 41.6823
2008-Feb-05 00:00 12 07 20.57 +29 01 26.7 14.54 .035490056040165 9.1618451 137.7313 /L 40.9189
2008-Feb-06 00:00 12 08 14.66 +28 16 54.2 14.83 .040788624701944 9.1878291 138.3841 /L 40.0907
2008-Feb-07 00:00 12 08 49.41 +27 42 25.8 15.08 .046101922027670 9.2132092 139.0878 /L 39.2198
2008-Feb-08 00:00 12 09 10.44 +27 14 53.2 15.30 .051430122929095 9.2396336 139.8280 /L 38.3206
$$EOE
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Column meaning:
TIME
Prior to 1962, times are UT1. Dates thereafter are UTC. Any 'b' symbol in
the 1st-column denotes a B.C. date. First-column blank (" ") denotes an A.D.
date. Calendar dates prior to 1582-Oct-15 are in the Julian calendar system.
Later calendar dates are in the Gregorian system.
The uniform Coordinate Time scale is used internally. Conversion between
CT and the selected non-uniform UT output scale has not been determined for
UTC times after the next July or January 1st. The last known leap-second
is used over any future interval.
NOTE: "n.a." in output means quantity "not available" at the print-time.
R.A._(ICRF/J2000.0)_DEC =
J2000.0 astrometric right ascension and declination of target center.
Corrected for light-time. Units: HMS (HH MM SS.ff) and DMS (DD MM SS.f)
APmag =
Asteroid's approximate apparent visual magnitude by following definition:
APmag = H + 5*log10(delta) + 5*log10(r) - 2.5*log10((1-G)*phi1 + G*phi2).
In principle, accurate to ~ +/- 0.1 magnitude. For solar phase angles > 90 deg,
the error could exceed 1 magnitude. No values are output for phase angles
greater than 120 degrees, since the extrapolation error could be large and
unknown. Units: NONE
delta deldot =
Range ("delta") and range-rate ("delta-dot") of target center with respect
to the observer at the instant light seen by the observer at print-time would
have left the target center (print-time minus down-leg light-time); the
distance traveled by a light ray emanating from the center of the target and
recorded by the observer at print-time. "deldot" is a projection of the
velocity vector along this ray, the light-time-corrected line-of-sight from the
coordinate center, and indicates relative motion. A positive "deldot" means the
target center is moving away from the observer (coordinate center). A negative
"deldot" means the target center is moving toward the observer.
Units: AU and KM/S
S-O-T /r =
Sun-Observer-Target angle; target's apparent solar elongation seen from
observer location at print-time. If negative, the target center is behind
the Sun. Angular units: DEGREES.
The '/r' column is a Sun-relative code, output for observing sites
with defined rotation models only.
/T indicates target trails Sun (evening sky)
/L indicates target leads Sun (morning sky)
NOTE: The S-O-T solar elongation angle is the total separation in any
direction. It does not indicate the angle of Sun leading or trailing.
S-T-O =
Sun-Target-Observer angle; target's apparent PHASE ANGLE as seen at
observer's location at print time. Units: DEGREES
Computations by ...
Solar System Dynamics Group, Horizons On-Line Ephemeris System
4800 Oak Grove Drive, Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Information: [link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Connect : telnet://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov:6775 (via browser)
telnet ssd.jpl.nasa.gov 6775 (via command-line)
Author : Jon.Giorgini@jpl.nasa.gov
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Does this mean that the Sun, Moon and Earth are in potential Danger of Impact?
Target primary : Sun {source: DE405}
Interfering body: MOON (Req= 1737.400) km {source: DE405}
Deflecting body : Sun, EARTH
There is a lot of silence once again about this Unknown Asteroid. We know nothing about it. Its Orbit remains unsure as the calculations of distance have differed.
Now we also have NASA admitting that Their Comet and Asteroid Blasting Ship, Deep Impact is currently doing " Laps around the Sun"
Deep Impact spacecraft flies by Earth
NASA's comet-busting spacecraft is on its way to rendezvous with another comet in an extended mission that will also hunt for Earth-sized planets around a cluster of stars.
The Deep Impact probe zipped past Earth on Monday, the first of three flybys designed to use the planet's gravity to hurtle the spacecraft toward comet Hartley 2 for a 2010 meeting.
Last week, engineers calibrated the instruments aboard the spacecraft using the moon as a target in advance of the flyby, which occurred as planned, said William Blume of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory.
At closest approach the spacecraft was 10,000 miles (16,000km) above Australia.
"We're taking laps around the sun until the comet comes," he said.
[link to goondiwindi.yourguide.com.au]
Deep Impact could be hanging around the Sun for the benefit of this nearing Asteroid. Quite convenient is it not?
There has been images of many things around our Sun lately, and with what happened to Comet Holmes still fresh in our minds, there certain is a lot going on in our System at the moment.
There has been rumours for years about an incoming object that could prove devastating to Earth, Could TU24 be it?
Im not sure, But the events lately in our Solar System have made me take nothing for granted.
Links
[link to www.drsky.com]
[link to goondiwindi.yourguide.com.au]
[link to uspolitics.tribe.net]
[link to echo.jpl.nasa.gov]
[link to www.tu24.org]
[link to www.hohmanntransfer.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 323417
1/9/2008 3:37 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
I'd like to think I'm a fairly smart man but after reading that I feel pretty dumb.
Thanks for the post. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 314078
1/9/2008 3:53 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
Collision is not what we need to be concerened about. There is a a theory that I read about which basically states that large NEO's (Near Earth Objects) can trigger earthquakes. The theory works something like this: As the NEO appraoches the gravitational field of both Earth and the NEO interact with each other. There is a game of gravitational tug of war at play.
Imagine two children holding both ends of a rope as far a part as possible. The rope represents the gravitational attraction between celestrial bodies. They then run towards each other and bypass each other at the mid point. This represents the Near Earth Miss. They continue running opposite of each other until they reach the full legth of the rope. This the point where the gravitational influence is released. At this point the weaker child will let go and be released from the rope. The stronger child (Earth) will be left holding the rope. At the point just before the stronger child wins their hands would be fully extended and then violently drawn inward at the moment of the weaker childs (asteroid) releases. This is a very rudimentary way to describe it but I feel it illustrates the theory affectively.
I think it is safe to say that the end of January to beginning of February that a large earthquake 8+ may be in the works. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 352852
1/9/2008 6:27 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
bump |
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Schmieder22
User ID: 324203
1/9/2008 6:45 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
Even more so because TU24 runs next to Earth for a short while. Instead of two cars passing on opposite lanes, were going to ride together with TU24 for a day two or three.
This probally would increase the earthquake magnitude and dispersal. I imagine places already giving off tremors are highly susceptable.
AND/OR the amount of time riding next to TU24 could allow Earths gravity to have time to pull it in. More time close together increases its orbit towards us exponentially. Due to increase in speed from being captured by Earths gravity and increasing gravitic pull every inch closer.
ANd the Earth isn't on a solid orbit. The Earth and the Moon orbit each other. We are slightly tossed around by the moon. So the passing distance...what is the +/- passing distance due to the moons effect on us?
All these elements do account for something. I just don't know how to calculate them.
Anyone know how to figure that stuff out? Especially the orbitale variation Earth encounters from the moon. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 352868
1/9/2008 7:07 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
its gonna get kinda close if I read right,
41,830 miles from the earth
the moon is 238,900 miles away
Anyone remember the cartoon "Conan" from the 80's
it showed a comet streaking between the earth and the moon that |
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Normal Is Subjective
User ID: 352838
1/9/2008 7:44 PM
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The Hazard to Civilization from Fireballs and Comets: [link to www.sott.net]
The Cosmic Turkey Shoot: [link to www.sott.net]
How very timely.
I thought I'd beat the inevitibility of death to death just a little bit. |
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Ebidah
User ID: 352912
1/9/2008 8:23 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
wow close call, i guess the trend from last year goes on.. the rest of the Potentially Hazardous Asteroids on the main page list of JPL got really close too mind you not this close like. |
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motox
User ID: 327107
1/9/2008 8:27 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
Collision is not what we need to be concerened about. There is a a theory that I read about which basically states that large NEO's (Near Earth Objects) can trigger earthquakes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 314078
are you nuts man? earthquakes vs total destruction. we DO need to be concerned about collision |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 322930
1/9/2008 8:52 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
asteroid discovered in Nov. will or will not impact Mars, right and now you say an asteroid was discovered in Oct. do why wasn't this asteroid talked about until now????? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 322930
1/9/2008 9:03 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
This is BS I checked for this asteroid on Space.com and NASA.com, search didn't pull up a thing. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 322930
1/9/2008 9:05 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
This is BS I checked for this asteroid on Space.com and NASA.com, search didn't pull up a thing. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 322930
(I followed your jpl link, OP.)
"Oh, Nevermind." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 322930
1/9/2008 9:06 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 352935
1/9/2008 9:25 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
1.44 LD |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 352945
1/9/2008 9:48 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 271013
1/9/2008 10:20 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
is this the same MJ from that december 23 thread?
giggle |
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Schmieder22
User ID: 324203
1/9/2008 10:28 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
I believe impacts happen in bursts of time. As we travel through this grand universe (the Sun is speeding along too) we would encounter clean and dirty space of all types. We were fortunate so far to be in a clean part. But that can change and I know there is scientific debate about the solar system entering an interstellar debris cloud. It's called the G-Cloud.
[link to www.space.com]
In this article they writter claims we shall see an increse in interstellar bits of debris zipping by our solar system. What isn't clear is how big the debris is. Theres probally gonna be a few extra mid sized chunks among all the finer debris. Weak gravitic attraction would be in play since the cloud travels deep space. So there is bound to be some larger chunks.
This information was obtained from the ESA.
As quoted, "The forecast calls for a prolonged and increasing blizzard of small interstellar bits."
and, "Some day, the influx could get worse. The solar system is plowing toward the fringes of a galactic cloud known as the G-cloud."
[link to www.spaceflight.esa.int]
That article from the ESA helps describe how 'dirty' space can be. It is likely most of the impact craters found on every planet in this solar system happened during a specific age of time.
Maybe that is why these new objects are being discovered and are potential. |
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yowza
User ID: 272605
1/9/2008 10:30 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
jan 26 08 ? |
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purgatory parlor
User ID: 71073
1/9/2008 10:49 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
All right children.
I've made us all some very special pudding.
Now go put on your new white sneakers and we'll have a snack.
Hurry up now. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 348411
1/9/2008 11:08 PM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
First call it by it's right name - it's not TU24, it's 2007 TU24.
Second, about the youtube video, see [link to www.badastronomy.com] |
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The Lone Ranger 
Debunking Zetatalk for the sake of the people
User ID: 345915
1/9/2008 11:27 PM
 | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
is this the same MJ from that december 23 thread?
giggle Quoting: Anonymous Coward 271013
Yep it's the same  mumma's boy troll!!
 ......Mr Jackass.
Life Is But A Dream!!
Therefore, "'Tis better to have dreamed and lost than never to have dreamed at all."
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I concede that Nancy and ZetaTalk are not the most "trustworthy" of "sources" because her reputation, credentials and track record leave a LOT to be desired. Melfy 9/21/09 |
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Kat Mama
User ID: 345260
1/10/2008 12:17 AM
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Wow, MJ! You've done a lot of research. I've breezed by some talk about it on the forums and have meant to research it, but thanks to your efforts, I can start right here!
Thanx! 
CONDEMNATION without INVESTIGATION is the HIGHEST form of IGNORANCE |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 334706
1/10/2008 12:31 AM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
M ore
J unk |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 334706
1/10/2008 12:35 AM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 334706
1/10/2008 12:37 AM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
Just for you MJ
What are the odds of the Earth being hit by an asteroid?
It depends on the size of the object.
Earth gets hit by objects up to perhaps 10 meters across just about every year. For something 100 meters in size you have to wait a century or so. And for kilometer-sized bodies it takes a million years.
There have been several near-misses in the last 20 years by objects in the several hundred meter-class getting as close as a 1/2 million miles or so.
Every year you read about major 'fireballs' that are sighted. I think that the odds are better than 50:50 that in the next decade we will hear about an unusually large strike like the one in Shikote-Alen in 1947.
[link to www.astronomycafe.net] |
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MJ
User ID: 352852
1/10/2008 3:56 AM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
Where did i say that it is going to hit anything?
Just researching the thing in a forum where we discuss those type of things. |
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1/10/2008 4:21 AM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
whoah.. .0086.au on Jan.28.th is a really close encounter, depending on this thing's size & speed we are most likely going to feel the wind brush passed us from this one.
& yea.. we might even side-swipe this thing toward the moon, that's some scary shit you got posted here. 
8-ball corner pocket.. |
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1/10/2008 4:29 AM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
whoah.. .0086.au on Jan.28.th is a really close encounter, depending on this thing's size & speed we are most likely going to feel the wind brush passed us from this one.
& yea.. we might even side-swipe this thing toward the moon, that's some scary shit you got posted here.
8-ball corner pocket..
Yep, right at the time Pluto moves in to Capricorn too.
Transformation, possibly in a destructive way but for a positive ending that can not always be seen until it has ended. |
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User ID: 343187
1/10/2008 4:41 AM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
A lot of variables at play here.. and we may already be feeling some of it's effects.
Ring of fire is lit up with increasing 6.0+'s Volcano's and some of the weirdest weather patterns we've seen in 15.yrs.
Don't believe me call up your local weather station and ask them to explain what da'hell "Thunder-Snow.." is.
Hold onto your hats folks.. |
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1/10/2008 4:46 AM | | Re: Asteroid TU24 *** An Unknown Entity, Only Discovered in Oct07!! Potential Doom!! Is The Moon In Danger? | Quote |
I'd like to think I'm a fairly smart man but after reading that I feel pretty dumb.
Thanks for the post. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 323417
Same here... |
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Anonymous Coward
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1/10/2008 5:23 AM | |
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