Judge: Include Kucinich In Nev. Debate | |
Forever_Midnight User ID: 348725 United States 01/14/2008 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | woooot! go judge! . Crumbling world falls through my hands — In my mouth taste bitter sands — Grass is burning, pulse is slow — Drip by drip my backwards growth — crawl… [link to www.youtube.com] |
A_G1RL (OP) User ID: 273050 United States 01/14/2008 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bumping for IMPORTANT news! The courts have now just begun to back up the American public against the RICO of the lamestream. Yes, this is me ... [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 289164 United States 01/14/2008 10:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We need an independent commission which is neutral, has rules of fairness, and which hosts ALL debates. The cost of holding the debates could be passed on to the networks which decide to place cameras in the debates, by charging them a nominal fee to do so. It's time we stop allowing the corporate media to pick and choose the candidates who we the PEOPLE are then allowed to pick from. |
A_G1RL (OP) User ID: 273050 United States 01/14/2008 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am just overwhelmed with joy on this....yes, I know emotions should not be a part of it but there you have it. Yes, this is me ... [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
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A_G1RL (OP) User ID: 273050 United States 01/15/2008 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Next day and importance.....judicial precidence is being set. Yes, this is me ... [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
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A_G1RL (OP) User ID: 273050 United States 01/15/2008 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now wait and see if the judge has teeth. Will the judge arrest the debate holders if they go ahead in contempt of the injunction he may have to issue? Will MSNBC cave in or will the Judge? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 330782Oh I would love to see that fight......hhmmm big MSM vs a ticked off judge. Yes, this is me ... [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
TX Patriot User ID: 332571 United States 01/15/2008 01:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: A_G1RL A_G1RL...that language from you made me chuckle. |
Evil Twin User ID: 239180 United States 01/15/2008 01:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...having a pair of hangy down things. Quoting: TX Patriot 332571[link to www.cbsnews.com] A_G1RL...that language from you made me chuckle. It made me LMAO! |
SHR Forum Administrator 01/15/2008 01:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
TX Patriot User ID: 332571 United States 01/15/2008 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys don't see how wrong it is to have judges dictating what is going to be on television? Why not? because you like Kucininch...Judges can decide both ways you know, what happens when one decides there is something you shouldn't see? or maybe decides that you should see something he wants you to, but you don't really want to? Television is one thing I believe in free market solutions for, if some station is not showing something you want, don't watch it, let their sponsors know why you aren't, make sure you let them know you will letting others know why too. But having a judge threaten or force any broadcaster to give air time to candidates that are dead last? It's wrong, if it was covered under the equal time rules, it wouldn't have happened. Bigger gov't cuts both ways, just because you personaly like it this time, doesn't make it right. Quoting: SHRSHR is right. At times I need a swift kick in the ass as a reminder of the double edge. But, you have to admit the judge did have "a pair of hangy down things". Damn, it just doesn't sound the same when I say it. ;) . |
A_G1RL (OP) User ID: 273050 United States 01/15/2008 01:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys don't see how wrong it is to have judges dictating what is going to be on television? Why not? because you like Kucininch...Judges can decide both ways you know, what happens when one decides there is something you shouldn't see? or maybe decides that you should see something he wants you to, but you don't really want to? Television is one thing I believe in free market solutions for, if some station is not showing something you want, don't watch it, let their sponsors know why you aren't, make sure you let them know you will be letting others know why too. But having a judge threaten or force any broadcaster to give air time to candidates that are dead last? It's wrong, if it was covered under the equal time rules, it wouldn't have happened. Bigger gov't cuts both ways, just because you personaly like it this time, doesn't make it right. Quoting: SHRWell, he's not dead last, and they DID have the requirement that THEY set for the top four. They now wanted to change that requirement because they didn't want Dennis on the stage, they didn't count on Richardson dropping out already. This breach of contract was clearly due to trying to inhibit his point of view in the debates. This judge just recognized it for what it was and is upholding the original contract. Did I like it? Yea, gotta confess. Would I like infringement under other terms? Nope, gotta admit that too. But in this case of a contract, I think the judge saw his 'in' Yes, this is me ... [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
A_G1RL (OP) User ID: 273050 United States 01/15/2008 02:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys don't see how wrong it is to have judges dictating what is going to be on television? Why not? because you like Kucininch...Judges can decide both ways you know, what happens when one decides there is something you shouldn't see? or maybe decides that you should see something he wants you to, but you don't really want to? Television is one thing I believe in free market solutions for, if some station is not showing something you want, don't watch it, let their sponsors know why you aren't, make sure you let them know you will letting others know why too. But having a judge threaten or force any broadcaster to give air time to candidates that are dead last? It's wrong, if it was covered under the equal time rules, it wouldn't have happened. Bigger gov't cuts both ways, just because you personaly like it this time, doesn't make it right. Quoting: TX Patriot 332571SHR is right. At times I need a swift kick in the ass as a reminder of the double edge. But, you have to admit the judge did have "a pair of hangy down things". Damn, it just doesn't sound the same when I say it. ;) . Yes, this is me ... [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
SHR Forum Administrator 01/15/2008 02:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You guys don't see how wrong it is to have judges dictating what is going to be on television? Why not? because you like Kucininch...Judges can decide both ways you know, what happens when one decides there is something you shouldn't see? or maybe decides that you should see something he wants you to, but you don't really want to? Television is one thing I believe in free market solutions for, if some station is not showing something you want, don't watch it, let their sponsors know why you aren't, make sure you let them know you will be letting others know why too. But having a judge threaten or force any broadcaster to give air time to candidates that are dead last? It's wrong, if it was covered under the equal time rules, it wouldn't have happened. Bigger gov't cuts both ways, just because you personaly like it this time, doesn't make it right. Quoting: A_G1RLWell, he's not dead last, and they DID have the requirement that THEY set for the top four. They now wanted to change that requirement because they didn't want Dennis on the stage, they didn't count on Richardson dropping out already. This breach of contract was clearly due to trying to inhibit his point of view in the debates. This judge just recognized it for what it was and is upholding the original contract. Did I like it? Yea, gotta confess. Would I like infringement under other terms? Nope, gotta admit that too. But in this case of a contract, I think the judge saw his 'in' Likely it was just more along the lines that since he was invited, it would be breach of contract to be un-invited, I doubt the judge cares who or what he is about. This sort of thing just always leads to more of the same, and next time it won't be what you happen to like, and the 20 times after that once precident is set, they likely won't be either....Hopefully it gets done as purely a contractual matter and not because some judge "feels" people will be better off because of his decision...... ____________________________________________________ E-mail anytime [email protected] Inquiring about a ban?, include the IP address found here. [link to www.showmemyip.com] Ooooh, see the fire is sweepin' Our very streets today... Burns like a red coal carpet, Mad bulls lost the way... War, children, it's just a shot away...it's just a shot away.... |
A_G1RL (OP) User ID: 273050 United States 01/15/2008 02:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Likely it was just more along the lines that since he was invited, it would be breach of contract to be un-invited, I doubt the judge cares who or what he is about. This sort of thing just always leads to more of the same, and next time it won't be what you happen to like, and the 20 times after that once precident is set, they likely won't be either....Hopefully it gets done as purely a contractual matter and not because some judge "feels" people will be better off because of his decision...... Quoting: SHRI hate it when you logic me out of a good buzz.....feeling that is, not drugs. Yes, this is me ... [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 330782 United States 01/15/2008 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, SHR, you think this is but a case of Judical activism? From my point of view the TV broadcast media is not a simple type of "free market economy thing". If it were, then everyone could broadcast on any channel they wanted to at any time. The airwaves are owned as it were by the people and not by the corporations. The broadcast corporations do have to abide by the terms of their contracts with the federal government that has licensed that portion of the air waves to that station or network. Also note from the simple and short newsrelease about this case one cannot tell just exactly what the case was nor the reasoning of both the defendant and the plaintiff, nor can one read in these short articles about the judges decision and his reasoning about it. Jumping to conclusions about a legal case without hearing the case at hand is like being on a jury but not ever sitting in the jury box and hearing the case. Was this really an Equal Time issue? Or wasn't it? We cannot tell either way because we did not sit in on the "jury" to hear the case. Only the court transcripts have any validity about what went on in court on this case. Second guessing legal cases without that information is as bad as voting for someone bases only on his campaign ads. This does apply to broadcast media only, and not to cable subscription media, nor newspaper and print. But the point about over regulation is spot on, lest we all find our precious internet being forced into the position that every poster be forced to mention all candidates equally in all their posts. For all of that, the plaintiff can and most likely will file an appeal which could effectivley block any injunction the judge lays down. Which is worse, limited coverage or no coverage? Or anyone being able to broadcast at any time on any frequency at any power level they can afford? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 321226 United States 01/15/2008 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, did a thread search and this looks to be unposted news here on GLP. Congrats to both Kucinich and the Nevada judge on having a pair of hangy down things. Quoting: A_G1RL[link to www.cbsnews.com] "Hangy down things" ... I am a girl, too ... but I could not figure this out at first. I thought, "Chads?" Then I realized it was those same things that Hillary has! This is great news! Who are THEY to tell us who we need to listen to in a candidate? I'd still love to see a Paul/Kucinich ticket. |
A_G1RL (OP) User ID: 273050 United States 01/15/2008 06:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NBC has filed an appeal. Hearing today, but haven't heard any news of a result. BTW, did I see that Olbermann is one of the commentators? Yes, this is me ... [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
A_G1RL (OP) User ID: 273050 United States 01/15/2008 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.msnbc.msn.com] Nevada Supreme Court overturned the lower courts ruling. Kucinich will not be allowed to be in tonight's debate. MSNBC is now on the 'YOU SUCK' list with Faux. This is complete bologna and we all know it. No, Kucinich is not my guy but it's still the same principle. Heck, I really didn't agree to them putting the 4th place rule on it to begin with. As long as they are national and they haven't dropped out then they should be there to debate the issues. Hunter, Gravel, Kucinich, and whomever else I am missing because the lamestream has made me forget them..... you all have been messed over by our money controlled government. Don't give up on us because of the Richard Noggans. (sp?) Yes, this is me ... [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |
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A_G1RL (OP) User ID: 273050 United States 01/16/2008 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bump for the newbie Yes, this is me ... [link to soundcloud.com (secure)] |