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Benevolent Cannibal User ID: 356546 Canada 01/16/2008 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would this change anything at all? It's one guy Quoting: Anonymous Coward 356705ha ha, money changes everything... Paul has been pulling in major funding the last year or so and his popularity has hardly grown..One man is only able to donate so much per campaign (1000$ per campaign if I am not mistaken)...so why would it even matter that the guy is a billionaire, if he can only contribute a grand (or whatever it may be)? |
Godot User ID: 330512 United States 01/16/2008 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 315925Turner? You have to respect any guy that had the dexterity to show up to the Americas Cup victory celebration drunk enough to barf into the cup. - plus I think he's still pissed about what CNN did to his news channel after he sold it. Yes it's safe, it's very safe, it's so safe you wouldn't believe it.... ... No, it's not safe, it's very dangerous. Be Careful. |
Godot User ID: 330512 United States 01/16/2008 08:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul has been pulling in major funding the last year or so and his popularity has hardly grown..One man is only able to donate so much per campaign (1000$ per campaign if I am not mistaken)...so why would it even matter that the guy is a billionaire, if he can only contribute a grand (or whatever it may be if I am wrong)? Quoting: Benevolent CannibalYep. just ask the swiftboat boys how to do it. Yes it's safe, it's very safe, it's so safe you wouldn't believe it.... ... No, it's not safe, it's very dangerous. Be Careful. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 268919 United States 01/16/2008 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ted? Quoting: GodotTurner? You have to respect any guy that had the dexterity to show up to the Americas Cup victory celebration drunk enough to barf into the cup. - plus I think he's still pissed about what CNN did to his news channel after he sold it. ted turner is awesome,modern southern hero. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 140243 United States 01/16/2008 08:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fingers crossed this is not BS. hey, while a person can only donate so much to a campaign, they can spend as much as they want buying ads on their own. Or even buying a spot for a show. if it is Ted, I won't mind. he seems pretty cool. and if it is Ted, he will so far surpass cool, that there isn't a word for it yet. we'll come up with it. |
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Godot User ID: 330512 United States 01/16/2008 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if it is Ted, I won't mind. he seems pretty cool. and if it is Ted, he will so far surpass cool, that there isn't a word for it yet. we'll come up with it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 140243Man I don't want to start any rumors... Ted was just a wild-assed guess on my part. Yes it's safe, it's very safe, it's so safe you wouldn't believe it.... ... No, it's not safe, it's very dangerous. Be Careful. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 355805 United States 01/16/2008 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Isn't their a legality issue here? I mean there's a limit to how much an individual can donate to a candidate right? And even if it could be done legally, would RP want to be beholdin to one of them rich corporate types? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 349426I'm not buying this yet. Actually I can produce a documentary on any topic I want and if I could get the money for the air time I could probably run it subject to decency standards unless it was a pay per view then all you need is well nvm..... This is basically the soft money issue, although the description makes it sound as if it's just actual analitical reporting finally making it onto the major media scene. I wish it weren't too good to be true. Besides why would they broadcast it if they were shutting him out? They've (MSM) already rejected similar "ads" in the past. Seems to make no sense on that end... |
X in Texas User ID: 291725 United States 01/16/2008 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it's not a hoax, I know who it is. Read this. ------ I'm not a Republican. I'm not a Democrat. Although I like to tell people I'm a Libertarian, I'm really not. I'm unaffiliated with any political party. In fact I can't think of anything good that comes from political parties because they do just one thing, politics. When I vote in any local or state election, I vote for the candidate who I think will do the least. Not the least of anything specific, just the least amount of everything. The perfect candidate for me would be one that would walk around kissing babies. I think we have enough state and federals. We have 200+ years of making local and state laws. That's enough. When I vote in Presidential elections, I tend to vote for 3rd party candidates simply because anything that might prompt strength in a 3rd party could weaken the two main parties. Otherwise, I vote for the candidate that I think will do the least. Here is why. Take a look at domestic car manufacturers. How difficult is it going to be for them to regain the lead in their industry ? It won't be easy. Nor will it be easy to do in a mere 4 years. Now if its very difficult to pick the right person to turn around a major corporation, how difficult is it to pick the right President ? The car companies get to interview anyone they want. Voters typically only have choices presented to us based not on their abilities to lead or improve the country, but on their ability to get elected . And that's not a very big list. The 2 major parties seem to put having their party in power over having the best possible person in that position. I haven't become a big fan of that approach. Its not that the nominated candidates can't or won't be great Presidents, it's just that we don't really get our choice of the best candidates. But that's not the biggest issue. That's not why I vote for the candidate that does the least. The reason is that the United States has gotten so big, in terms of population, diverse groups and economy, I just dint think ANYONE can truly set a course of action that is anything more than a guess. It doesn't matter if its a Democrat or a Republican. It doesn't matter if its a social or economic program. Every President has his projects that he promotes and promises to implement. We see and hear all about it as its being discussed and voted on. If it passes, we see and hear about its initial implementation, but then it just becomes one more program in an awful big book of programs. Did you ever wonder how many programs have been implemented every 4 years ? The same applies to laws. Its part of a platform. It becomes law at some point after election, then put in the legal system as one more law. I personally think we have too many laws. Too many programs and too many laws. There are so many passed, that when something good happens in the economy, and thanks to good old American innovation something good usually does happen to the economy during every administration, that the administration gives credit to one of their programs for whatever good is occurring at the time President Clinton took all the credit when the Internet Boom boosted the economy and let all the blame fall on President Bush when it collapsed. President Bush took all the credit as the economy grew and grew as interest rates fell, until sub prime undercut that growth. If the economy doesn't rebound from this sub prime mess, I'm sure he will pass the blame on to the next President. In reality, neither President really had anything to do with things going right or wrong. Its the American People stupid. This isn't a criticism of either President, or any President, it's a reflection of what I believe, which is that when it comes to economic and social policy the best any candidate or President can do is guess. They turn to the smartest people they trust, ask them for advice on what to do and hope it works. That's not as big a problem when it comes to turning around or building the results of a corporation, that's a huge problem to me when it comes to our nation. Since most policies are just guesses, I would rather they just do nothing. There is no question their hearts are in the right place and they want to do the right thing, but the reality is that every single program that is supposed to have a major impact on our country is nothing more than a guess. What I would love to see is a candidate who says he/she is going to start removing laws and programs. Give me a candidate who's primary platform is to spend 4 years removing federal programs and laws. If it was a law or program worth anything the states or local municipalities will find much more creative ways to make them work. I know its far easier said than done, but could it be any harder to remove an existing law or program than it would be to define, develop and implement another on top of what we already have in place ? Our government is so big, getting it to move in any direction is an incredibly difficult thing to do. So if you want my vote in 2008, don't tell me what you are going to add, tell me what you are going to remove. Tell me how you are going to simplify the government. That's how you get my vote. And although its not exactly in context, but i didnt know where else i could put it, I decided to post it here. This is one of my favorite all time Presidential quotes, but I'm not going to tell you who said it. "We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an openmarket is a nation that is afraid of its people." - Mark Cuban -------- Don't bother calling me a Neocon. I'm a card-carrying Libertarian. ---------- A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes. - Mark Twain |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 355805 United States 01/16/2008 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is now confirmed this not true. Quoting: Samson 356582Well it was fun for a minute and I wish 20 mil was enough to do it, because just a google vid as described would make convincing people (in a pyramid scheme) much easier. I myself have had to put in some time thinking about the net result of some of his policies before I was convinced. The repeal of the personal income tax - direct minting - revamping the ag system would make a huge difference in terms of social justice imho. Wait you forgot the is, you're a total shill. I'm waiting with bated breath for this to unfold in one of the two ways presented with no tangible evidence on an Anonymous posting board. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 291725 United States 01/16/2008 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This explains what happened to the thread. [link to www.ronpaulforums.com] |
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Duddy User ID: 345747 United States 01/16/2008 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why would this change anything at all? It's one guy Quoting: Benevolent Cannibalha ha, money changes everything... Paul has been pulling in major funding the last year or so and his popularity has hardly grown..One man is only able to donate so much per campaign (1000$ per campaign if I am not mistaken)...so why would it even matter that the guy is a billionaire, if he can only contribute a grand (or whatever it may be)? Because he doesn't need to donate ANYTHING to Ron Paul if he is making a 3 hour TV special on his own. I already called off work for December 21st, 2012. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 356779 Ireland 01/16/2008 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Today, 10:20 PM Spirit of '76's Avatar Spirit of '76 Spirit of '76 is online now Moderator About: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Salem, WV Posts: 3,423 Default Guys... FOCUS!!! OK, we got the billionaire thread restored. The Admins have decided that because there is no corroborating evidence, the thread should be placed in Hot Topics alongside the other threads that deal with unfounded rumors until such time as it can be confirmed. At this point, there appears to be no evidence either for or against the mysterious billionaire message. Only time will tell if there's anything to it. Now, that said, one part of the message is more important than any other: Quote: The purpose of this information is in no way intended to change anything you are currently doing to support Ron Paul. The grassroots efforts have been tremendous and instrumental in getting Ron Paul to the level of support he currently enjoys. By all means continue to do what you have been doing. Continue donating to the campaign and by all means continue your support on the street by passing the word about Ron Paul, the next President of the United States. Don’t forget the next big donation date just around the corner January 21, the birthday of Dr. Martin Luther King. No matter whether our dreams come true and a mysterious billionaire helps Ron take down the whole rotten establishment or not, we have a whole bunch of primaries coming up, and we cannot win them without VOTES. So please, remain optimistic about the billionaire hero if you want, but in the meantime go about the immediate and pressing work of spreading the word on Dr. Paul and GETTING OUT THE VOTE. Nevada and South Carolina are just a few days away. Please don't let ANYTHING, even this, distract you now. No matter how many billionaires come along, Ron Paul cannot win without YOU and your efforts down in the trenches on the frontline of the battle for Freedom. Canvassing isn't glamorous, but it's necessary. It's what we MUST do to win, even with big money behind us. So if our mysterious benefactor exists, don't let him down. Even more importantly, DON'T LET RON PAUL DOWN. Go get your friends, family, and neighbors to the polls where they can cast a vote for Ron Paul. Working to Win in West Virginia Become a Ron Paul 2008 Precinct Captain Sign Up Here: [link to voters.ro] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 356779 Ireland 01/16/2008 11:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | link above was cut in half, here it is... [link to voters.ronpaul2008.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 356792 United States 01/16/2008 11:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Googled parts of the message and I think this is the link to the original post, though you must register it looks like. [link to www.ronpaulforums.com] |