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Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357137
1/18/2008 12:43 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
check out the book "tower of light" by dan brown. he is a catholic author. the book is about a 1990 prophecy that stated because of what we have done to the earth and it's plants and animals(genetic manipulation) the lord is going to send us back to a peasant way of life in an instant.could this asteroid mess with our electrical field thus sending us back to the 1800's in an instant. food for thought. he has his own website with the book and daily catholic news if you want to check it out. www.spiritdaily.com |
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Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/18/2008 1:14 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Here's a post I picked up from the web. Go to the link (At the bottom) to see the response from Robert McNaught (of Comet McNaught fame).
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Greetings MPML,
We want to alert everyone to the upcoming approach by asteroid 2007 TU24, which will flyby at only 1.4 lunar distances (!) on January 29, when it will be an extremely strong radar target.
We are planning radar observations at Arecibo and Goldstone starting on January 23. The plane-of-sky pointing uncertainties are uncomfortably large with the current orbital solution, so we are requesting astrometry? Complicating matters is the increasingly bright Moon and the asteroid's solar elongation (~60 degrees) and
apparent magnitude (~19). Can someone get it?
Also, 2007 TU24 should get quite bright at closest approach and thus be a good target for photometry, colors, and spectroscopy. Is anyone planning to observe it?
Goldstone observations are scheduled on January 23-24 (one track that straddles the date boundary) and at Arecibo on January 27, 28, and February 1-4.
Regards,
Lance Benner
Dr. Lance A. M. Benner
Research Scientist phone: 818-354-7412
Mail Stop 300-233 fax: -9476
Jet Propulsion Laboratory e-mail: lance@...
4800 Oak Grove Drive [link to echo.jpl.nasa.gov]
Pasadena, CA 91109-8099
[link to tech.groups.yahoo.com] |
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Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/18/2008 1:22 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
For anyone interested in learning more about the electric universe see the Google video, "Thunderbolts of the Gods".
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 350670
1/18/2008 1:26 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
I know that low-energy plasma discharges can take many forms: filamentary, toroidal, spiraling, and helical formations. They can even replicate the form of a dragon, which may be where many of our ancient myths come from. Quoting: Ice
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Forever_Midnight
User ID: 348725
1/18/2008 1:28 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
check out the book "tower of light" by dan brown. he is a catholic author. the book is about a 1990 prophecy that stated because of what we have done to the earth and it's plants and animals(genetic manipulation) the lord is going to send us back to a peasant way of life in an instant.could this asteroid mess with our electrical field thus sending us back to the 1800's in an instant. food for thought. he has his own website with the book and daily catholic news if you want to check it out. www.spiritdaily.com Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357137
argh... no teh internets??? *shudders* that's enough to make me wanna go grab a pack of Marlboros right now and light 'em right up... and i've never smoked...
seriously, interesting. thanks for the heads up and link.
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Crumbling world falls through my hands —
In my mouth taste bitter sands —
Grass is burning, pulse is slow —
Drip by drip my backwards growth —
crawl… [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Forever_Midnight
User ID: 348725
1/18/2008 1:32 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Here's a post I picked up from the web. Go to the link (At the bottom) to see the response from Robert McNaught (of Comet McNaught fame).
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Greetings MPML,
We want to alert everyone to the upcoming approach by asteroid 2007 TU24, which will flyby at only 1.4 lunar distances (!) on January 29, when it will be an extremely strong radar target.
We are planning radar observations at Arecibo and Goldstone starting on January 23. The plane-of-sky pointing uncertainties are uncomfortably large with the current orbital solution, so we are requesting astrometry? Complicating matters is the increasingly bright Moon and the asteroid's solar elongation (~60 degrees) and
apparent magnitude (~19). Can someone get it?
Also, 2007 TU24 should get quite bright at closest approach and thus be a good target for photometry, colors, and spectroscopy. Is anyone planning to observe it?
Goldstone observations are scheduled on January 23-24 (one track that straddles the date boundary) and at Arecibo on January 27, 28, and February 1-4.
Regards,
Lance Benner
Dr. Lance A. M. Benner
Research Scientist phone: 818-354-7412
Mail Stop 300-233 fax: -9476
Jet Propulsion Laboratory e-mail: lance@...
4800 Oak Grove Drive [ link to echo.jpl.nasa.gov]
Pasadena, CA 91109-8099
[ link to tech.groups.yahoo.com]
NICE FIND! Thanks.
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Crumbling world falls through my hands —
In my mouth taste bitter sands —
Grass is burning, pulse is slow —
Drip by drip my backwards growth —
crawl… [link to www.youtube.com] |
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ZOSIME
User ID: 314632
1/18/2008 1:32 AM
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ok if this happened and we lost all mobile, web, electricity we should set up a place or some way we can meet after everything is aok I mean like if GLP takes forever to get back or if they don't come back. |
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* <-----star of destiny
User ID: 279402
1/18/2008 1:36 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
check out the book "tower of light" by dan brown. he is a catholic author. the book is about a 1990 prophecy that stated because of what we have done to the earth and it's plants and animals(genetic manipulation) the lord is going to send us back to a peasant way of life in an instant.could this asteroid mess with our electrical field thus sending us back to the 1800's in an instant. food for thought. he has his own website with the book and daily catholic news if you want to check it out. www.spiritdaily.com Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357137
Wowww that would be sooooo cool : ) Well something like that is going to happen. But even more wonderful than that. Oh i will be grand : ) |
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Whee! 8D 
Devil's advocate
User ID: 354513
1/18/2008 1:50 AM
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Though ignoring the whole comparison to Tunguska... it would be interesting to know if an asteroid could affect our magnetosphere, and what the repercussions would be.
Anyone want to pay $15 to tell us what this article says ;)
Magnetospheric Effects as a New Aspect of the Asteroid Impact Problem: Necessity and Possibilities of Laboratory Simulation Experiments
[ link to www.annalsnyas.org]
... or you can buy the whole 1997 Near-Earth Objects: The United Nations Conference volume:
[ link to www.annalsnyas.org]
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]
The only free thing I could find D:
Thanks a lot btw Testie
The world woud be a thousand times better place if your silly cults didnt exist. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 673558
The Bible says you must believe the Bible, the Qu'ran says you must believe the Qu'ran, the book of mormon says you must believe the book of mormon, the Pali Canon says you must believe the Pali Canon, the Sruti says you must believe the Sruti, the Avesta says you must believe the Avesta, the Book of Enoch says you must believe the Book of Enoch.
There can be only one of them that is true. Why should yours be the one? If there was one of them that had the complete, undeniable, verifiable truth, the others wouldn't exist anymore.
Searching the undebunkable.
[French Quebecker!] |
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ZOSIME
User ID: 314632
1/18/2008 2:02 AM
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Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/18/2008 2:24 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Here's an illustration of the path in relation to the magnetosphere:
IMAGE ( [link to www.tu24.org] )
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Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/18/2008 2:26 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Here's an illustration of the path in relation to the magnetosphere:
IMAGE ( [ link to www.tu24.org] )
it put an extra space at the end...
here's the direct link: [link to www.tu24.org] |
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Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/18/2008 2:30 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Thanks, everyone, for help to put the video on YouTube's list of:
Top Favorites (Today) - Science & Technology
Top Rated (Today) - Science & Technology |
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Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/18/2008 2:49 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
The reason that I think it's better to post this information on forums such as these instead of more 'scientific' venues is that the 'scientists' and armchair lab assistants don't really know what they don't know.
Meaning, we probably only know a small percentage of what there is to know in the universe.
This is a much more open-minded forum.
True, one could say that the majority of posts on GLP is spam, crap, useless, whatever.
But what percentage of a scientist's experiments are useless and inconsequential?
Remember, everything is thought "impossible" before it is thought possible.
All throughout history there are examples of the authorities on matters being proven wrong by more ordinary people. People who do not exclaim with scientific fervor, "I already know about this and you are wrong!"
I have a feeling that in 2008, we will discover much about the universe that we didn't know in 2007. And then scientists will be refuting something else that 'isn't possible'.
The data from Comet Holmes is sending a lot of astronomers and physicists back to their little drawing boards. That should tell us something.
/end rant |
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Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/18/2008 3:50 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Historical "Earth miss distance" (not MOID, but the closest TU24 has been predicted to come to Earth), as relayed by a user on TU24.org:
2007-10-13 0.01459
2007-10-14 0.009848
2007-10-15 0.003453
2007-10-16 0.003075
2007-10-19 0.003789
2007-10-29 0.003735
2007-11-03 0.003736
2007-11-06 0.003731
2007-11-15 0.003706
2007-12-04 0.003704
2007-12-06 0.003706
2008-01-01 0.003704
2008-01-14 0.003705
from [link to www.tu24.org]
He says the data is "based on information indirectly obtained from the minor planet center circulars" |
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Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/18/2008 4:56 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
It is interesting to note that sometimes when a comet approaches the Sun it is accompanied by a massive solar flare.
I believe that the biggest solar flare ever recorded was in June of 1996 which coincided with the passage of a comet, which actually MET the solar flare (plasma exchange?)
I'll try to find an image or video of this. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 357446
1/18/2008 4:57 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Can you imagine the explosive power contained in Holmes to expand to 140% the size of OUR SUN? Quoting: Testie 352729
Near nothing.
Space has no gravity or atmosphere to resist or shape a blast wave. A comet sublimating or even 'exploding' due to heat/cold fracture could scatter particles all over. But it's still just a fog. |
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kalamity kool
User ID: 357181
1/18/2008 5:01 AM
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It is interesting to note that sometimes when a comet approaches the Sun it is accompanied by a massive solar flare.
I believe that the biggest solar flare ever recorded was in June of 1996 which coincided with the passage of a comet, which actually MET the solar flare (plasma exchange?)
I'll try to find an image or video of this. Quoting: Testie 352729
The biggest was this one:
[link to www.esa.int] |
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Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/18/2008 5:19 AM | |
Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/18/2008 5:27 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Thanks for the link.
That was around the time that Comet Encke passed by the Earth.
Inconclusive, but interesting. |
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Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/18/2008 5:32 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Near nothing.
Space has no gravity or atmosphere to resist or shape a blast wave. A comet sublimating or even 'exploding' due to heat/cold fracture could scatter particles all over. But it's still just a fog. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357446
No gravity in space? Shall we tell that to universe, planets, the solar system, galaxies, and everything else in space?
If there is 'no gravity to resist a blast wave' as you suggest, why doesn't it just expand forever? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 355357
1/18/2008 7:52 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
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Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/18/2008 10:41 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
It would be interesting for an amateur observer like myself to find out how, when I look at the JPL site, TU24 seems to race by the Earth, even though it comes in at an angle!
But the Earth is more than 3x faster...
velocity-
2007 TU24 around sun: 9.25 km/s
Earth around sun: 29.786 km/s
[link to ssd.jpl.nasa.gov]
Can someone point out the obvious here? |
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Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/18/2008 11:15 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
unless the TU24 number is its velocity in relation to Earth.
Could this be why the velocity value didn't change when the MOID changed?
Does anyone know what its true velocity is? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 13730
1/18/2008 1:56 PM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Keep in mind this is estimated at 250-500 meters. At most that would make it about the length/height of 5 football fields. Not a monster like some recent comet flybys (Mcnaught, Shwassmann-Wachmann) but still could make a mighty big splash IF.... Funny that the most discussion I can find on the web about TU24 is here at good old GLP.... keep your eyes and ears open! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 358048
1/20/2008 8:33 PM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Sorry, Moonwolf, but i cannot hold it. Such dick for eternity. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 358836
1/20/2008 8:50 PM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 355844
1/20/2008 9:11 PM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Here a clip [link to upload.wikimedia.org]
of 50m size asteroid 2004FH as it passed 26,000 miles above the Earth on 31 March 2004.
Nothing much to write home about.
TU24 is only x6 bigger and will be much further away. Will there ne anything to write home about? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 324412
1/21/2008 1:20 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
So THAT'S why the gestapo is 'PRE-blaming' ~Hackers~ as the 'cause' of power outages via the Internet.
B U L L S H I T COWBOYS, it's prepacked bullshit!
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interest bump
User ID: 359105
1/21/2008 11:39 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
... for all the valid information ...
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