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| Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/21/2008 2:19 PM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
The original and best! Like quaker oats :) |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 203360
1/21/2008 2:32 PM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 203352
1/21/2008 2:13 PM Re: Asteroid 2007 TU24 & Electric Comet Holmes Quote
I just did a simple trig calc and discovered that the path of TU24 goes WAY ABOVE the known magnetosphere of Earth (back side). So, if you are counting on TU24 going through this, you are out of luck. Sorry. It's about 400,000 km too high above it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 203360
1/21/2008 2:26 PM Re: Asteroid 2007 TU24 & Electric Comet Holmes Quote
I just did a simple trig calc and discovered that the path of TU24 goes WAY ABOVE the known magnetosphere of Earth (back side). So, if you are counting on TU24 going through this, you are out of luck. Sorry. It's about 400,000 km too high above it.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 203352
The reason for this is TU24 is coming in fast at 5 dgrees to the plane of earth from below the earth's plane on its way to above. As it does this earth passes in front of it up to the 28th where TU24 begins to go behind. At this point it is already above the earth-sun plane and going up farther. By the time the closet approach is reached, TU24 is 542,756 km above the Earth-Sun plane and "behind" earth by 169,045 km. So its more "above" earth, than "behind" at this point.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 203360
1/21/2008 2:30 PM Re: Asteroid 2007 TU24 & Electric Comet Holmes Quote
I just did a simple trig calc and discovered that the path of TU24 goes WAY ABOVE the known magnetosphere of Earth (back side). So, if you are counting on TU24 going through this, you are out of luck. Sorry. It's about 400,000 km too high above it.
The reason for this is TU24 is coming in fast at 5 dgrees to the plane of earth from below the earth's plane on its way to above. As it does this earth passes in front of it up to the 28th where TU24 begins to go behind. At this point it is already above the earth-sun plane and going up farther. By the time the closet approach is reached, TU24 is 542,756 km above the Earth-Sun plane and "behind" earth by 169,045 km. So its more "above" earth, than "behind" at this point.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 203360
This point, if you draw a triangle, gives the hypotenuse as 568,472km and a good deal above the known magnetosphere line of only 20 to 25 earth radii (160,000 km at most).
Unless the magnetoshere of earth reaches far above what we have known, TU24 will not pass through it. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 262265
1/21/2008 2:38 PM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
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| Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/21/2008 3:41 PM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 203352
1/21/2008 2:13 PM Re: Asteroid 2007 TU24 & Electric Comet Holmes Quote
I just did a simple trig calc and discovered that the path of TU24 goes WAY ABOVE the known magnetosphere of Earth (back side). So, if you are counting on TU24 going through this, you are out of luck. Sorry. It's about 400,000 km too high above it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 203360
Your "simple trig calc" is off.
The area of the magnetosphere in your equation is also incorrect.
Try again? |
| Testie
User ID: 352729 (OP)
1/21/2008 5:11 PM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Will there be any electromagnetic effects from TU24? We don't know for sure. But we think it's much more likely to occur than direct impact.
Let's take a look at an asteroid that came close to us recently: AF3 on Jan 13th came within 0.0025 AU of Earth.
velocity: 3.51 km/s
size: 15 m - 34 m diameter
Aside from that, take a look at the Plasma Temperature and Density readings for the day of, after, and before.
[link to www2.nict.go.jp]
It's possible that this asteroid (or any asteroid) has no affect on the magnetosphere. However, there does seem to be some correlation between large and close asteroids and the charts.
But take a look at the video for that day:
[link to www3.nict.go.jp]
the time you want to look at is the closest Earth approach: 0913 UTC (from Hoffman transfer)
You'll notice SOMETHING HAPPENING starting from around 9:13
When you compare that day to other videos you will start to see a pattern. |
| Testie
User ID: 361691
1/25/2008 8:03 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Just a note.. TU24.org forums are back online
[link to www.tu24.org]
As previously noted, the board was offline for a couple of days due to abuse from the Bad Astronomy gang. Hopefully this will be a good solution for the community as we approach the end of the month.
The gods must be watching, because their site has been having problems since then, as was JPL's ;) |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
1/25/2008 8:12 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Yup, asteroids pass us by daily, some big some small and no electromagnetic doom has filled the air, not just weeks, months or years but centuries have passed without so much as a whimper.
There are some people who can never be satisfied without attaching some imagined fairy dust to a common event.
Will the OP apologize when nothing happens? nope, there will just be another excuse for the failed event, the OP will carry on inventing the next "doom" scenario attached to some simple event. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275504
1/25/2008 8:15 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
We believe the explanation is 'magnetic reconnection,'" says Vourlidas. Magnetic fields around the comet bumped into oppositely directed magnetic fields in the CME. Suddenly, these fields linked together--they "reconnected"--releasing a burst of energy that tore off the comet's tail. A similar process takes place in Earth's magnetosphere during geomagnetic storms powering, among other things, the aurora borealis.
"In a sense, the comet experienced a geomagnetic storm," says Vourlidas. "It is the first time we've ever witnessed such an event on another cosmic body." |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
1/25/2008 8:20 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Just a note.. TU24.org forums are back online
[ link to www.tu24.org]
As previously noted, the board was offline for a couple of days due to abuse from the Bad Astronomy gang. Hopefully this will be a good solution for the community as we approach the end of the month.
The gods must be watching, because their site has been having problems since then, as was JPL's ;)
I think this quote is entirely relevant to the tu24 org site.
quote
"Some people might think I am being harsh; however, doomcryers are, in my opinion, among the lowest form of life. If they’re conmen (or pranksters) then they’re a particularly fetid brand of evil, and if they’re honest, they’re not trying very hard to educate themselves on reality (yet going to a lot more trouble to make YouTube videos about it). A third kind, of course, may be honest people with mental problems, and so in my opinion are worthy of our sympathy. But that doesn’t mean we cannot take action to correct what they are doing.
In the end, as well, all three kinds of fearmonger try very hard to scare people, and facts be damned. And many times I’ve seen people good and truly scared by garbage like this. I get emails…
Needless to say I’ll try to stay on top of stuff like this. I’m just glad in a week people like "TU24dotORG" will be out of a job. Temporarily, of course, until they find the next thing they can terrorize people with. Grrrrr.
end quote
more common sense here.
[link to www.badastronomy.com] |
| Ice
User ID: 352686
1/25/2008 8:25 AM
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Yup, asteroids pass us by daily, some big some small and no electromagnetic doom has filled the air, not just weeks, months or years but centuries have passed without so much as a whimper.
There are some people who can never be satisfied without attaching some imagined fairy dust to a common event.
Will the OP apologize when nothing happens? nope, there will just be another excuse for the failed event, the OP will carry on inventing the next "doom" scenario attached to some simple event. Quoting: Prof-Rabbit 148352
Will the OP apologize when nothing happens?
What will he have to apologize for? When did he say it would hit? You to his post copy and paste it!
thanks
ice
You have until 2016 to get your Act together! Be Wise! |
| Prof-Rabbit
User ID: 148352
1/25/2008 8:51 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
Yup, asteroids pass us by daily, some big some small and no electromagnetic doom has filled the air, not just weeks, months or years but centuries have passed without so much as a whimper.
There are some people who can never be satisfied without attaching some imagined fairy dust to a common event.
Will the OP apologize when nothing happens? nope, there will just be another excuse for the failed event, the OP will carry on inventing the next "doom" scenario attached to some simple event.
Will the OP apologize when nothing happens?
What will he have to apologize for? When did he say it would hit? You to his post copy and paste it!
thanks
ice Quoting: Ice
Where did I suggest a "hit"?, do you have difficulty reading? the OP is suggesting "doom!" of the electromagnetic kind.
vis.
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Asteroid 2007 TU24, due to approach Earth closest on Jan 29th, could be much more dangerous than NASA is willing to admit. Not because it is likely to impact Earth (it isn't) but because of possible electromagnetic reactions with the Earth's magnetosheath or magnetosphere.
end quote
As I stated earlier, for hundreds of years thousands of asteroids have passed us by, you will note we are still alive. |
| Mr X
User ID: 321561
1/25/2008 8:54 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
This video is fucking bullshit!  |
| Metaman
User ID: 359832
1/25/2008 9:09 AM | | Re: Electromagnetic effects of asteroid TU24 on Jan 29th, 2008 | Quote |
I think the video at the start of this link is excellent. The understanding of the universe as an electric playground is well founded. The evidence is all there. If you look closely at many of the craters on Mars or the Moon, you will find that they are not impact craters but more like what it would looked like if you scooped up a pice of the surface with an antigravity device. In the middle of many craters, you will see this little tip, or tower of material that got left behind as the rest went into space. The only thing that can do that is a plasma discharge. We don't need to go way into a fear trip here, but, as the video states, this astroid is negatively charged there is no way of calculating whether the difference between the charge of the earth (which is a huge generator of el power.) and this astroid. Plasma discharges can go a loooooong way in space.
There really isn't a whole lot anybody can do to protect themselves from this. If it happens it will happen. If you are in the area that is affected, you will probably not survive.
Isn't it great that death is an illusion? No more need to worry about the Shrub, or the economy or all those bills.
Enjoy the show |
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