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Freemasons were persecuted by Hitler

 
Grand_Architect
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12/05/2004 10:05 AM
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Freemasons were persecuted by Hitler
From time to time, we see anti-Masons flailing about attempting to ´prove´ that Freemasonry is wrong because Adolph Hitler and his henchmen were fascinated by it. The claim is true - but totally and completely misleading.



Freemasons have for centuries suffered persecution because of their membership in the fraternity. Hitler´s Germany was its ultimate indignity. While those of the Jewish faith endured the greatest loss of life and humanity, most descriptions of the Holocaust refer to "Jews, Gypsies, Freemasons and others" being consigned to the dreaded Concentration Camps and gas chambers.

Author Michael Burleigh notes in his major work The Third Reich - A New History that the SD created surrogate public opinion and that "A 1938 report included what became routine surveys of Freemasonry, whose essentially benign activities have always been a bugbear to the paranoid left and right. It began with a disarming flourish of erudition, outlining the various lodges and national traditions. Organized Freemasonry had been smashed because of its Enlightenment legacy of ´humanity, tolerance and liberalism´, and because it was a vehicle for promoting ´Jewish ideas and objectives´."

The claim that Freemasonry and Hitler are intertwined is not wholly inaccurate: Masons suffered from his mass atrocities as did others!
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Clear Eyes  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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What are you, a third degree Mason in charge of P.R.?

lol
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Grand Architect  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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"What are you, a third degree Mason in charge of P.R.?"

THink offering a 2nd POV
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Clear Eyes  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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You are a Masonic sympathizer if nothing else.

lol
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Grand Architect  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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"You are a Masonic sympathizer if nothing else."

No, I just want people see both sides.
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Clear Eyes  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Both sides .. would that be that the lower level Masons are the good guys doing the charity work while the upper level are the evil personified?
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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"would that be that the lower level Masons are the good guys doing the charity work while the upper level are the evil personified?"

Do you have evidence for that?

BTW, did you care to read the article first?
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Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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You make it look like it was a thing of the past; tell them what happens if a Mason is found in Saudi Arabia, or Iran, or in most Muslim states.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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"(Hint: The Freemason elite don´t blink if they have to kill their brothers for expedient reasons)."

Got URLs?
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Grand Architect  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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"Freemasons encourage pedophilia and PROTECT members who are known child abusers and pedophiles.

So please fuck off from the forum. We don´t need pedophile scum getting this board closed down!"

Without evidence, you must fuck off.
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Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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some request, this from a real Mason, for the previous post, any GOOD link on what you claim?
Clear Eyes  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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If you´re lower level, then you´re simply ignorant and blind to the truth.

If you´re not, then I hope your Masonic advertising falls on deaf ears.

If you have anyone that is reading this thinking the Masons are the best, Google the truth about the Masons.

I won´t bump this thread again.

Have fun Idol.
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Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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You are well informed, true CE?
Care to share with us some real information for your judgements?
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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All the sudden a shit load of masons show up here. Not a good sign. Usually that means war.
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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Hitler was totally misaligned and got a bad rap over all, hes the 20th century bogey man.
logical log  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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"Have fun Idol."

Deborah is not here now.
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idol harobed  (OP)

12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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bump
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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12/08/2005 10:09 AM
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When Hitler was imprisoned in Bavaria it was figured he was released only upon making a deal with freemasonry, nothing exact is known but his old superior comerad General Luddendorff accused him of that and split with Hitler. Later in government he had one known mason in his cabinet, Helmar Schacht he was his tie to the world of finance. Otherwise there is little known about his relationship to Freemasons, he certainly did not like them alot.





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