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Anonymous Coward User ID: 354067 United States 01/19/2008 03:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cyber attackers...gaining access thru the Internet? Looks like the Internet is the bad boy dejour. Look for restrictions to access and for increased control by TPTB. They are setting it up, especially with that damned HR1955 and that entire "homegrown radical" bullshit. The alternative news sources are fixin' to get shut down because they allow TRUTH to be spread. |
TX Patriot User ID: 332571 United States 01/19/2008 03:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Niccolò User ID: 348129 United States 01/19/2008 03:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And so it begins... "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." --Justice William O. Douglas "There are three kinds of intelligence: one kind understands things for itself, the other appreciates what others can understand, the third understands neither for itself nor through others. This first is excellent, the second good, and the third useless." --Niccolò Machiavelli "I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep" --Robert Frost :phamask: |
Satiric Axiom User ID: 292560 United States 01/19/2008 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 322259 United States 01/19/2008 03:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I watched a documentary on this last month...PBS possibly. I can't remember. They were exposing the massive computer and tech vulnerabilities of our grids. Looks like they were on target with the message. Quoting: TX Patriot 332571. Screw that, the power companies and like need to setup fail safe systems with their infrastructure. The Internet shouldn't suffer because the IT nerds at the power company can't figure out how do this. The problem isn't the Internet, the problem is having critical systems connected to the Internet without fail safes. The same could be said of telephone lines. ... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 357854 Belarus 01/19/2008 03:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 339768 United States 01/19/2008 03:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Niccolò User ID: 348129 United States 01/19/2008 03:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And so it begins... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 339768oh for the fucking love of god! Hey! I was being serious this time. "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." --Justice William O. Douglas "There are three kinds of intelligence: one kind understands things for itself, the other appreciates what others can understand, the third understands neither for itself nor through others. This first is excellent, the second good, and the third useless." --Niccolò Machiavelli "I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep" --Robert Frost :phamask: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 284299 United States 01/19/2008 04:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cyber attackers...gaining access thru the Internet? Looks like the Internet is the bad boy dejour. Look for restrictions to access and for increased control by TPTB. They are setting it up, especially with that damned HR1955 and that entire "homegrown radical" bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 354067The alternative news sources are fixin' to get shut down because they allow TRUTH to be spread. Set up is right. Next, the Mossad fucks with the grid and Arabs get blamed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 354462 United States 01/19/2008 04:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Niccolò User ID: 348129 United States 01/19/2008 04:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Cyber attackers...gaining access thru the Internet? Looks like the Internet is the bad boy dejour. Look for restrictions to access and for increased control by TPTB. They are setting it up, especially with that damned HR1955 and that entire "homegrown radical" bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 284299The alternative news sources are fixin' to get shut down because they allow TRUTH to be spread. Set up is right. Next, the Mossad fucks with the grid and Arabs get blamed. Not the Mossad (whom you guys give WAY too much credit btw) and not the Arabs. More likely a U.S. agency and blame going to U.S. citizens. Hence reenforcement of the "homegrown radical bullshit". ;) "As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness." --Justice William O. Douglas "There are three kinds of intelligence: one kind understands things for itself, the other appreciates what others can understand, the third understands neither for itself nor through others. This first is excellent, the second good, and the third useless." --Niccolò Machiavelli "I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep" --Robert Frost :phamask: |
TX Patriot User ID: 332571 United States 01/19/2008 04:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I watched a documentary on this last month...PBS possibly. I can't remember. They were exposing the massive computer and tech vulnerabilities of our grids. Looks like they were on target with the message. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 322259. Screw that, the power companies and like need to setup fail safe systems with their infrastructure. The Internet shouldn't suffer because the IT nerds at the power company can't figure out how do this. The problem isn't the Internet, the problem is having critical systems connected to the Internet without fail safes. The same could be said of telephone lines. ... That was exactly what this whistle blower, if you will, was stating. They discussed how the systems were configured (basic overview), the current vulnerabilities and the quite simple technical solutions. . |
Only Me Strawberry Girl User ID: 327049 United States 01/19/2008 04:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you guys think that if a hacker were to do that here in the US, would it be done for the thrill of it or for actual terrorist-related reasons. I mean, I think it would be the ultimate hacker's wet dream to cause a major outage. Not that it matters, of course, because the end result is the same... Goodbye, halcyon days... There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory mentioned, which states that this has already happened. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 319451 United States 01/19/2008 04:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
9net User ID: 357968 Israel 01/19/2008 05:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
9net User ID: 357968 Israel 01/19/2008 05:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in ex USSR you had a secret code to control power substations over the powerline itself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357854interesting enough the communication protocol was almost freely available to anyone caring enough to check Leninsky lib. Actually the same principle is the basis of Internet-over-powerline technology, albeit in different frequencies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 357965 United Kingdom 01/19/2008 05:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 357971 Slovakia 01/19/2008 06:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So far, everyone´s reaction to this article seems to be the same, except for the last poster. Which leads me to believe that everybody is wrong except the last poster. When an article comes out in the media, you have to understand that they are writing it to get a certain reaction. And it looks like they succeeded. Everyone seems to think the internet is dangerous and they cant protect our big services that are connected to it. Remember, the emotional reaction you get after reading an article is most likely the emotional reaction they WANT you to get!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 215883 United States 01/19/2008 06:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 355779 Australia 01/19/2008 06:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So far, everyone´s reaction to this article seems to be the same, except for the last poster. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357971Which leads me to believe that everybody is wrong except the last poster. When an article comes out in the media, you have to understand that they are writing it to get a certain reaction. And it looks like they succeeded. Everyone seems to think the internet is dangerous and they cant protect our big services that are connected to it. Remember, the emotional reaction you get after reading an article is most likely the emotional reaction they WANT you to get!!! don't bother dude it's futile. nobody cares. remember, guns kill people, spoons make you fat and pencils make your spelling go bad. also remember the people that just read without posting comments however, among them you could probably expect a similar ratio of people who get it and people who do not. have fun. |
TX Patriot User ID: 332571 United States 01/19/2008 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So far, everyone´s reaction to this article seems to be the same, except for the last poster. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357971Which leads me to believe that everybody is wrong except the last poster. When an article comes out in the media, you have to understand that they are writing it to get a certain reaction. And it looks like they succeeded. Everyone seems to think the internet is dangerous and they cant protect our big services that are connected to it. Remember, the emotional reaction you get after reading an article is most likely the emotional reaction they WANT you to get!!! Actually, a few of us were discussing failsafe measures and not the "dangerous internet", but you would know that if you had read the thread. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 357971 Slovakia 01/19/2008 06:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 312069 United States 01/19/2008 07:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Problem, reaction, solution. Kiss your internet, as you know it, Goodbye! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 215883Like any of us dumb asses here can infiltrate a power grid. Just keep pointing to the players who can take a grid down... The Problem: Mossad hacks, US Government hacks, IT Insiders and Power Company Insiders. The Reaction: Light upon these perpe..traitors. The Solution: Education of the mass of humanity. Always educate, always enlighten, always the truth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 342837 United States 01/19/2008 07:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 357641 United States 01/19/2008 07:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
what? User ID: 350442 United States 01/19/2008 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This smells fishy, if hackers can get in to damage a power grid then also foreign powers could covertly damage our power grid, the latter I doubt could happen unless we want it to! Why spend trillions ovr years for defense and leave the country vulnerable to power grid attacks. Folks the US goverment has gotto be prepared for this kind of attack and you can bet it is. Hey the US probably learned about these vulnerabilities by poking around our enemies power grid control systems. Give the good guys a break! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 342837 United States 01/19/2008 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
9net User ID: 357968 Israel 01/19/2008 07:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all part of the plan to get the Internet taken down, then replaced with a strictly monitored and government-controlled "Internet 2.0". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357965Thats what they like to do, but they be left with USAnet and other countries will just reroute to Europe and not be monitored by fascists in AT&T centers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 312069 United States 01/19/2008 07:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is all part of the plan to get the Internet taken down, then replaced with a strictly monitored and government-controlled "Internet 2.0". Quoting: 9net 357968Thats what they like to do, but they be left with USAnet and other countries will just reroute to Europe and not be monitored by fascists in AT&T centers. I love TOR |