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CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%

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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 331097
1/21/2008 8:11 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

The Economy is Strong sheeplebah Everything is well uhoh scream ahhh
American BadAss
User ID: 355148
1/21/2008 8:30 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

FUTURES

S&P 500 1,260.40 -64.90 -4.90%
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Omega
User ID: 359441
1/21/2008 8:32 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

FUTURES

S&P 500 1,260.40 -64.90 -4.90%
 Quoting: American BadAss



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1/21/2008 8:35 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

we are saved by ppt

thread over up 174 points


dont underestimate big money and the ppt

its alll just funny money they just print more........


we gave banksters all the financial keys to kingdom...

they are not ready to have it crash yet....


yeah.....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 331097
1/21/2008 8:35 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

FUTURES

S&P 500 1,260.40 -64.90 -4.90%
 Quoting: American BadAss


scared
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 125075
1/21/2008 8:36 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

The only good lining is the silencing of the arrogant brokers and pundits who say this is a great buying opportunity.
keith
User ID: 357121
1/21/2008 8:38 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

The only good lining is the silencing of the arrogant brokers and pundits who say this is a great buying opportunity.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 125075

LOL no it wont they will say that its a great time to buy because everything is so low.Ya know what the brainwashed sheeple will lap it up.
a passing cloud
User ID: 222706
1/21/2008 8:44 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

they don't call them the plunge protection team for nothing. rolleyes

I F this is the big one elizabeth, it will not be a sudden cataclysmic drop, rather it'll be a meltdown of several percent every day [to be realistic, 8 out of 10 days] until some sort of equilibrium is reached. that could well be 40 percent lower than where we are today.

ah ha, "equilibrium", sounds like a psych med doesn't it.

good chance for a 1000 point bellyflop on the nikkei before its over tonight....
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 347595
1/21/2008 9:11 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

can i have a reasonable answer to this please?


i am not so much in to money market so can some one help me out here please. There is talk of bust bust and bust. this i can understand as shares lose value. However what happens if in two or three days time they gain it back?
I know that different people would lose or make a lot of money but if the market gets back to where it was before then what would that mean for the average man?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 276706

Not an expert, but if you don't need your money and can hold on while the values go down and then hold on til the value comes back up again, you have not lost anything. If as you say, "they gain it back", the value will return. That is if the market ever goes back up again. THis I can not tell you. The average man will be OK if he can wait it out. This does not take into consideration inflation or devaluation of the dollar. Also does not take into consideration if any of the various comapnies go bankrupt. Lots of variables.
keith
User ID: 357121
1/21/2008 9:15 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

can i have a reasonable answer to this please?


i am not so much in to money market so can some one help me out here please. There is talk of bust bust and bust. this i can understand as shares lose value. However what happens if in two or three days time they gain it back?
I know that different people would lose or make a lot of money but if the market gets back to where it was before then what would that mean for the average man?


Not an expert, but if you don't need your money and can hold on while the values go down and then hold on til the value comes back up again, you have not lost anything. If as you say, "they gain it back", the value will return. That is if the market ever goes back up again. THis I can not tell you. The average man will be OK if he can wait it out. This does not take into consideration inflation or devaluation of the dollar. Also does not take into consideration if any of the various comapnies go bankrupt. Lots of variables.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 347595

This is true.However if the slide keeps on going you have to get out to cya.If you dont you will lose EVERYTHING.The dow is SO over valued right now it could drop alot.No small man should be in the dow.Its for the BIG boys.Go for gold or silver.
The Wizard Of AHZZ
User ID: 359089 (OP)
1/21/2008 9:17 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

Futures

DJIA INDEX 11,590.00 -516.00

TIME 21:03

gasp
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 184760
1/21/2008 9:19 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

can i have a reasonable answer to this please?


i am not so much in to money market so can some one help me out here please. There is talk of bust bust and bust. this i can understand as shares lose value. However what happens if in two or three days time they gain it back?
I know that different people would lose or make a lot of money but if the market gets back to where it was before then what would that mean for the average man?


Not an expert, but if you don't need your money and can hold on while the values go down and then hold on til the value comes back up again, you have not lost anything. If as you say, "they gain it back", the value will return. That is if the market ever goes back up again. THis I can not tell you. The average man will be OK if he can wait it out. This does not take into consideration inflation or devaluation of the dollar. Also does not take into consideration if any of the various comapnies go bankrupt. Lots of variables.

This is true.However if the slide keeps on going you have to get out to cya.If you dont you will lose EVERYTHING.The dow is SO over valued right now it could drop alot.No small man should be in the dow.Its for the BIG boys.Go for gold or silver.
 Quoting: keith 357121

gold will crash too.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 359465
1/21/2008 9:54 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

This is how things go when you let cocaine slaves run the finances... and have a financial system built on lies.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 355908
1/21/2008 11:07 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

When the Fed 'creates' money it charges (who?) interest. This money is then passed to the banks, who can lend a multiple (10x?) of the cash they have.

For example, a bank may have 1000$ cash that the Fed made; it can then lend out 10000$ to Joe (and charge him interest). Joe now has to earn 10000$. Fed now has to create 10000$ for Joe to be able to pay back his loan. Now the bank has 10000$ that Joe paid back + 1000$ that it had originally + interest. The bank can now lend 110000+$ to Joe and so on. Very soon Joe is in debt and the bank has all the money. Because the debt got so big, it is impossible for Joe to pay it back and he defaults on his payments. After Joe defaults on his payments, all his property is seized. Now the bank has all the money and all the property, and Joe has nothing.

The Fed is doing the same thing to the bank. Pretty soon the Fed has all the money and all the property, owns the bank and Joe has nothing.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 359089 (OP)
1/21/2008 11:07 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

Hang Seng at negative 7.5%
bob
User ID: 357121
1/21/2008 11:09 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

When the Fed 'creates' money it charges (who?) interest. This money is then passed to the banks, who can lend a multiple (10x?) of the cash they have.

For example, a bank may have 1000$ cash that the Fed made; it can then lend out 10000$ to Joe (and charge him interest). Joe now has to earn 10000$. Fed now has to create 10000$ for Joe to be able to pay back his loan. Now the bank has 10000$ that Joe paid back + 1000$ that it had originally + interest. The bank can now lend 110000+$ to Joe and so on. Very soon Joe is in debt and the bank has all the money. Because the debt got so big, it is impossible for Joe to pay it back and he defaults on his payments. After Joe defaults on his payments, all his property is seized. Now the bank has all the money and all the property, and Joe has nothing.

The Fed is doing the same thing to the bank. Pretty soon the Fed has all the money and all the property, owns the bank and Joe has nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 355908

Dont worry a fema camp will help out poor joe.We got like 800 of em.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 331097
1/21/2008 11:22 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

damned scream scared uhoh ahhh byekitty
Bent Bull
User ID: 359550
1/21/2008 11:36 PM
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The idea is to buy low and sell high, not buy high and hope. It is never a good idea to ride a market down. You never know how far it is going or when, if ever, it will recover. Sell, Sell, Sell. By now, every smart investor should already be out. This down turn is for the fools who thought it would go back up. Oh, it probably will go back up some day. In fact it goes up every day, even now in Japan it goes up for a few minutes before it goes back down.

Good luck to all of you buy and hold people. You are going to need it very soon. It is possible for the DOW to go up tomorrow, but don't bet on it.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 359555
1/21/2008 11:43 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

Freak.

Hang Seng down 8%!
Bent Bull
User ID: 359550
1/21/2008 11:48 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

With all the money comming out of the world markets some of it may find a way into the US markets tomorrow thinking it is a safe port in a storm. Could be an up day for the US stocks, but also could be a disaster. Even should it be an up day, it will start out low. Also, no matter what happens tomorrow in the US markets, it is very unlikely that anything will turn this crashing freight train around. We are no where near the bottom, regardless of any short term rally.
LS
User ID: 253961
1/21/2008 11:50 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

With all the money comming out of the world markets some of it may find a way into the US markets tomorrow thinking it is a safe port in a storm. Could be an up day for the US stocks, but also could be a disaster. Even should it be an up day, it will start out low. Also, no matter what happens tomorrow in the US markets, it is very unlikely that anything will turn this crashing freight train around. We are no where near the bottom, regardless of any short term rally.
 Quoting: Bent Bull 359550

keep drinking
The Wizard Of AHZZ
User ID: 359089 (OP)
1/21/2008 11:52 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

The idea is to buy low and sell high, not buy high and hope. It is never a good idea to ride a market down. You never know how far it is going or when, if ever, it will recover. Sell, Sell, Sell. By now, every smart investor should already be out. This down turn is for the fools who thought it would go back up. Oh, it probably will go back up some day. In fact it goes up every day, even now in Japan it goes up for a few minutes before it goes back down.

Good luck to all of you buy and hold people. You are going to need it very soon. It is possible for the DOW to go up tomorrow, but don't bet on it.
 Quoting: Bent Bull 359550

Right on, Bent Bull!

The Bullz Are TRAPPED In A Perfectly Timed CRASH TRAP.

Maybe the FUTURES go LOCK LIMIT DOWN 75 points tonight and trigger the CIRCUIT BREAKERS on the NYSE at the Opening Bell tomorrow morning and free fall NO BID 10,000 pts in 3 straight DAYS to 3,000 DOW

If the FUTURES are DOWN LIMIT tonight, The Bullz will shit their pants, and PUKE all over their computer screens.

Serves em right, IMHO.

The Sonsabitches have been too damn greedy for too damn long. Yep. They'll get what's coming to them, Bent Bull.

Sadly, we're all going to have to pay for the Bullz malfeasance. angryface
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 359555
1/21/2008 11:56 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

Freak Freak!

Aussie market down 6.5%
LS
User ID: 253961
1/21/2008 11:59 PM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

-505
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 331097
1/22/2008 12:00 AM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

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Watch CNBC on Windows Media, Not being shown in U.S.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 359555
1/22/2008 12:14 AM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

WTF? ASX down 7.26%
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 331097
1/22/2008 12:42 AM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

mms://a653.l2362426837.c23624.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/653/23624/v0001/reflector:26837?auth=daEalaTd8cfcTaZdeaMa9bVdEc8b.aBdDaG-bhLxCO-bWG-MWPO&aifp=abc

Watch CNBC on Windows Media, Not being shown in U.S.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 331097



[link to media.cnbc.com]


Try that link if first doesn't work.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 319296
1/22/2008 12:48 AM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

Anyone have a link to the market numbers? I seemed to have missed it, clicking on the last page like I did...

:)

I know, lazy. I will look, but just in case?

Thanks.
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1/22/2008 1:03 AM
Re: CRASH TIME! DOW FUTURES OFF -522.00 -4.31%Quote

Just saw on Bloomberg TV...Dow futures -511
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