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Heath Ledger, Numerology, Symbolism, and Channels Closing

 
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Heath Ledger, "The Joker," died on the 22nd day of the month at the age of 28, on a day when the economy was expected to collapse.

There are 22 major arcana cards in a Tarot deck, of which the Joker or Fool is the 22nd card.

The number 22 is significant in many systems of numerology, often called the Master Builder or Spiritual Master in Form. This 'master number' includes all the attributes of the number 2, twice over, and also those of the 4. People who are 22s are said to find themselves feeling as if they live in two worlds, one which is overwhelmed by the mundane, and the other by the fantastic.

In the Kabbalah, there are 22 channels or paths between the sephiroth.

The 22 paths of the tree of life are directly related to the 22 trump cards of the tarot deck.

Between the 10 Sephiroth run 22 channels which connect them. When combined with the 10 Sephiroth, these 22 channels make the number 32 which makes reference to the 32 Qabbalistic Paths of Wisdom and also the 32 degrees of Freemasonry.

Ledger died at 421 Broome Street.

The number 421 is an SMTP code that means "the transmission channel will be closing."

In a "Catch-22" a person is a victim regardless of the choice one makes.

The media is making a HUGE deal about the fact that Ledger was pronounced dead at 3:36 pm. They keep repeating this number over and over again.

Of course the number 33 is a significant number in modern numerology, one of the master numbers along with 11 and 22.

33 is also significant to Freemasonry.

In ASCII code, the number 36 is code for the $ sign.

As another person pointed out in another thread, Ledger is the third young star to die who has been shown in the media before or after the fact wearing clown makeup or face paint.

Brandon Lee - died while filming The Crow. He, like Ledger, was also 28 when he died on March 31, 1993.

Anna Nicole Smith - died of a drug overdose. After her death, photos surfaced of her in strange clown makeup that were plastered all over the media. She died on Feb. 8, 2007 in room 607.

Ledger was said to have not been himself in recent months. He was renting his apartment from an unknown person and there was said to be a man who used the apartment "now and then" who was not Ledger.

Also note that only months ago Jack Nicholson publicly proclaimed that he thought HE should play the Joker again rather than Ledger.

Yesterday, when asked about Ledger's death, Jack Nicholson chuckled strangle and said only, "I warned him."

Is it possible that Ledger somehow became a sacrificial victim and his death was used as a symbol or sign to "them" that whatever they have been planning is about to occur?

The "transmission channels are closing"? Perhaps the final, 22nd card in the deck, has been laid out and played.

Perhaps we are ALL being played.
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Possibly - or possibly too many drugs (not you, Ledger).
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That's amazing, numerology girl!

I've heard someone else mention that his death might be one of those weapons of mass distraction. Take the attention off the government? Kill a rising star! They are certainly capable of it!
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy." William Shakespeare
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421 adds up to 7. I've found that 7 houses/buildings are very dangerous.
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Thank you, OP. I was thinking of some of the same things yesterday, but it was just too soon and too sad to face them. He was 28, and he died in 2008. He had pneumonia, and Anna Nicole Smith had pneumonia. Good catch on the clown makeup, I hadn't thought of that. But his role as the joker has been bothering me bigtime. The role troubled him and made it hard for him to sleep. I wonder what he witnessed in this role that upset him. Maybe he was forced to witness shapeshifting? I don't know, but there is some evil connection to his role as the joker.
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I found this


"Also note that only months ago Jack Nicholson publicly proclaimed that he thought HE should play the Joker again rather than Ledger.

Yesterday, when asked about Ledger's death, Jack Nicholson chuckled strangle and said only, "I warned him."


to be very interesting
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I just went to yahoo to check my email, and yahoo says the temperature is 22 right now. More strangeness.
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The february 02-22-2008...

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According to this article, the warning had to do with taking Ambien.

Jack Nicholson: 'I warned Heath Ledger'

January 24, 2008 08:00am

HOLLYWOOD legend Jack Nicholson says he cautioned Heath Ledger before his fellow Joker actor's death.

The movie legend was dining at the Wolseley restaurant in London when a photographer told him about Heath’s passing.

Nicholson in London to promote new movie The Bucket List, replied “I warned him” then later said “I told him so”.

Asked about Ledger's death, Nicholson said: "Wasn't that horrible''.

The actor, who was wearing sunglasses at the premiere, said: "I took Ambien once. I fell asleep and then got a call and almost drove off a cliff 50 yards from my house.''

Reports have suggested that Ledger may have found playing the Joker role in the new Batman movie too much, and that the part left him unable to sleep.

Called Ambien in the US, the tablet is marketed as Stilnox in Australia and hit headlines last year when a national drug hotline fielded calls from users reporting strange side-effects.

About 500 people described odd behaviours from walking, crashing cars, having sex and falling from balconies after popping a pill.

Nicholson said:"I took Ambien once. I fell asleep and then got a call and almost drove off a cliff 50 yards from my house.''

Nicholson and fellow star Morgan Freeman later gave their condolences.

"It's a great loss to the industry, he was an enormous movie talent, it sounds like a tragic accident," Freeman said.

[link to www.news.com.au]
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What a way to be remembered, in a Gay role, and as a face of evil as the Joker.

Funny what money, needing to be approved of and deceit can do.

OP, your numerology is from the pits of hell.

YOU be careful, now 'you've been warned', dabbling in Tarot cards is more than you realise.

Then again, depends on which master you serve.

If Heath was a non-believer, he is in hell.

Short and simple.
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What a way to be remembered, in a Gay role, and as a face of evil as the Joker.

Funny what money, needing to be approved of and deceit can do.

OP, your numerology is from the pits of hell.

YOU be careful, now 'you've been warned', dabbling in Tarot cards is more than you realise.

Then again, depends on which master you serve.

If Heath was a non-believer, he is in hell.

Short and simple.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 360881

What utter evil bullshit you spew.

I'll always remember Heath as the knight in A Knight's Tale. He was a true artist.
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I always found the joker character freaky and scary for real, it's probably one of those mind control stories like the wizard of oz...how many times have they made this movie anyway? Give it up already...
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The first time Jack said it, he didn't mention Ambien. It was only later in London when people asked what the hell he meant by the "I warned him" comment that he talked about Ambien. TMZ wrote this:

"At a presser today in London, Jack specifically warned the crowd against Ambien, saying he almost drove off a cliff while using the sleep aid. He added that he never knew Heath."

Now if he never knew Heath, how could he have warned him??? wtf?
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Funny what money, needing to be approved of and deceit can do.

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Choosing to play a gay man when you're not gay is a way to be approved of? Yeah, that works : /
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"Asked about Ledger's death, Nicholson said: "Wasn't that horrible''.

When I first read that, I read it as him saying "It wasn't that horrible." Instead of a question "Wasn't that horrible?" lol. Funny how the lack of a question mark can completely change that statement.
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The first time Jack said it, he didn't mention Ambien. It was only later in London when people asked what the hell he meant by the "I warned him" comment that he talked about Ambien. TMZ wrote this:

"At a presser today in London, Jack specifically warned the crowd against Ambien, saying he almost drove off a cliff while using the sleep aid. He added that he never knew Heath."

Now if he never knew Heath, how could he have warned him??? wtf?
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Wow. That certainly changes the nature of the warning.
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What a way to be remembered, in a Gay role, and as a face of evil as the Joker.

Funny what money, needing to be approved of and deceit can do.

OP, your numerology is from the pits of hell.

YOU be careful, now 'you've been warned', dabbling in Tarot cards is more than you realise.

Then again, depends on which master you serve.

If Heath was a non-believer, he is in hell.

Short and simple.

What utter evil bullshit you spew.

I'll always remember Heath as the knight in A Knight's Tale. He was a true artist.
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No, your the evil one, rejecting truth, and in deep denial.
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What a way to be remembered, in a Gay role, and as a face of evil as the Joker.

Funny what money, needing to be approved of and deceit can do.

OP, your numerology is from the pits of hell.

YOU be careful, now 'you've been warned', dabbling in Tarot cards is more than you realise.

Then again, depends on which master you serve.

If Heath was a non-believer, he is in hell.

Short and simple.

What utter evil bullshit you spew.

I'll always remember Heath as the knight in A Knight's Tale. He was a true artist.


No, your the evil one, rejecting truth, and in deep denial.
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Whatever, reptile. I know your kind, and I know your days ARE NUMBERED. Get used to the reality.
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Funny what money, needing to be approved of and deceit can do.


Choosing to play a gay man when you're not gay is a way to be approved of? Yeah, that works : /
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Listen here TOSSER many men are gay, they just use a Hollywood title to cover it up. Rock Hudson comes to mind, for ONE of many. Getting paid for getting laid, sure helped him eh!
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Here's what Jack said a few months ago. How odd that he would now chime in on Ledger's death the way he has.

Who’s Laughing? Jack Nicholson ‘Furious’ He’s No Longer Joker in Batman Films
245 Comments | Published by Josh Horowitz on Wednesday, November 7, 2007 at 11:22 am

Wait ’til they get a load of me,” Jack Nicholson cackled maniacally nearly 20 years ago in Tim Burton’s “Batman.” Well come next summer, we’ll get a load of a whole new interpretation of the Joker when Heath Ledger grins from ear to ear in “The Dark Knight” and guess what, Jack is not happy.

“I’m furious,” Nicholson whispered to me last week when I asked him point blank how he felt about Ledger assuming the role. (Check out my full extensive conversation with Jack Nicholson here and find out about the unrealized second sequel to “Chinatown” in part one of the Nicholson interview here.)

Clearly the passage of time hasn’t mellowed Jack one bit when it comes to the Joker. His voice rose as he said, “They never asked me about a sequel with the Joker. I know how to do that! Nobody ever asked me.” For Nicholson the part of the Joker was an important one. “The Joker comes from my childhood,” he explained. “That’s how I got involved with it in the first place. It’s a part I always thought I should play.”

Saying that Warner Bros. “kind of drove the franchise into the ground,” Nicholson added that he wasn’t inclined to go see “The Dark Knight.” He went on to praise filmmaker Tim Burton to no end. “[He’s] a genius. He had the right take on it. That’s why I did the movie. [Burton is] one of the great moviemakers. I think the world of him.”

Are you with Jack or Heath? Who is the ultimate Joker? Should Christopher Nolan and company have considered bringing Jack back? Here’s your bat signal to weigh in below!
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What a way to be remembered, in a Gay role, and as a face of evil as the Joker.

Funny what money, needing to be approved of and deceit can do.

OP, your numerology is from the pits of hell.

YOU be careful, now 'you've been warned', dabbling in Tarot cards is more than you realise.

Then again, depends on which master you serve.

If Heath was a non-believer, he is in hell.

Short and simple.

What utter evil bullshit you spew.

I'll always remember Heath as the knight in A Knight's Tale. He was a true artist.


No, your the evil one, rejecting truth, and in deep denial.

Whatever, reptile. I know your kind, and I know your days ARE NUMBERED. Get used to the reality.
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ha! daughter of Satan, I REBUKE YOU in Jesus name, now go back to your witches brew, DONT mess with prophets, DONT dare speak against Christ's people, even a REAL witch knows it comes back on them TEN FOLD.

Demon, you are a pure DEMON
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I wonder what Jack meant when he said "the Joker comes from my childhood"?

wtf
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Here's what Jack said a few months ago. How odd that he would now chime in on Ledger's death the way he has.

Who’s Laughing? Jack Nicholson ‘Furious’ He’s No Longer Joker in Batman Films
245 Comments | Published by Josh Horowitz on Wednesday, November 7, 2007 at 11:22 am

Wait ’til they get a load of me,” Jack Nicholson cackled maniacally nearly 20 years ago in Tim Burton’s “Batman.” Well come next summer, we’ll get a load of a whole new interpretation of the Joker when Heath Ledger grins from ear to ear in “The Dark Knight” and guess what, Jack is not happy.

“I’m furious,” Nicholson whispered to me last week when I asked him point blank how he felt about Ledger assuming the role. (Check out my full extensive conversation with Jack Nicholson here and find out about the unrealized second sequel to “Chinatown” in part one of the Nicholson interview here.)

Clearly the passage of time hasn’t mellowed Jack one bit when it comes to the Joker. His voice rose as he said, “They never asked me about a sequel with the Joker. I know how to do that! Nobody ever asked me.” For Nicholson the part of the Joker was an important one. “The Joker comes from my childhood,” he explained. “That’s how I got involved with it in the first place. It’s a part I always thought I should play.”

Saying that Warner Bros. “kind of drove the franchise into the ground,” Nicholson added that he wasn’t inclined to go see “The Dark Knight.” He went on to praise filmmaker Tim Burton to no end. “[He’s] a genius. He had the right take on it. That’s why I did the movie. [Burton is] one of the great moviemakers. I think the world of him.”

Are you with Jack or Heath? Who is the ultimate Joker? Should Christopher Nolan and company have considered bringing Jack back? Here’s your bat signal to weigh in below!
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Published on 11/7/2007 at 11:22. More interesting numbers.
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I REBUKE YOU in Jesus name,
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Jesus wouldn't rebuke anybody: Not the lepers, not the "harlots", NOBODY!! Why would YOU rebuke ANYBODY in HIS name???
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Published on 11/7/2007 at 11:22. More interesting numbers.
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Indeed!
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What a way to be remembered, in a Gay role, and as a face of evil as the Joker.

Funny what money, needing to be approved of and deceit can do.

OP, your numerology is from the pits of hell.

YOU be careful, now 'you've been warned', dabbling in Tarot cards is more than you realise.

Then again, depends on which master you serve.

If Heath was a non-believer, he is in hell.

Short and simple.

What utter evil bullshit you spew.

I'll always remember Heath as the knight in A Knight's Tale. He was a true artist.


No, your the evil one, rejecting truth, and in deep denial.

Whatever, reptile. I know your kind, and I know your days ARE NUMBERED. Get used to the reality.


ha! daughter of Satan, I REBUKE YOU in Jesus name, now go back to your witches brew, DONT mess with prophets, DONT dare speak against Christ's people, even a REAL witch knows it comes back on them TEN FOLD.

Demon, you are a pure DEMON
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I have a silver cross with your name on it, reptile.
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good work OP, you raise some interesting points.

I thought how horrible that such a physically beautiful man would be on the autopsy table having all his bits taken out, weighed and examined. ....... Just ghastly.

So sad for everyone, his family and all his fans a star on the rise but also a troubled individual.

The joker thing is very sinister and I wonder what awful things all that research lead to.

I will always remember him in a Knights Tale and some of his happier roles. It is sad that so many beautiful and talented actors feel the need to take such sordid and dark roles in order to be taken 'seriously' by the establishment.

I think the gay film he did was really bad for him. Sure his performance was good but I think he really didn't want to do it. He had real problems with some of the scenes and I think his thing with Michelle Williams was probably an effort to wipe a stain from himself.

This is just speculation but he seemed really uncomfortable with all that gay stuff.

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