Rectilineator experiment of 1897 prooves the earth is concave, and we live in it | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70420107 United States 09/30/2015 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, they made a level brass & mahogany structure piecing together 12 foot sections. But they also referenced it to the ocean. That is the step you are not doing. The ocean was what they were actually measuring; the structure was just the measuring device. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70420107 You said "... then start adding sections to that first section at right angles and eventually you will see the sections going towards the Earth or away from it ..." but you cannot just compare it to the desert surface, because you cannot assume that surface is uniform. That is why I said to use a quiet lake. Yes they measured the rise/decline of the T-sections using the caissons every 1/8th of a Mile - all I am saying is that given you are on a flat surface you could also determine the curvature using the same methods without having to reference the ocean. Should work on a perfectly flat surface like a salt desert. Also I am thinking you could do this on a Airport runway. In any case I get the point and am thinking of doing this myself with a few friends. No, you are making assumptions here: "perfectly flat surface like a salt desert" - who says it's perfectly flat and follows the curvature of the Earth? "Airport runway" - Since that is a paved surface only 8000 ft long, it probably was artificially leveled and does not reflect the curvature of the Earth. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70413203 Spain 09/30/2015 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, you are making assumptions here: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70420107 "perfectly flat surface like a salt desert" - who says it's perfectly flat and follows the curvature of the Earth? "Airport runway" - Since that is a paved surface only 8000 ft long, it probably was artificially leveled and does not reflect the curvature of the Earth. We will see. In any case I am going to make it happen sooner or later. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70420107 United States 09/30/2015 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, you are making assumptions here: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70420107 "perfectly flat surface like a salt desert" - who says it's perfectly flat and follows the curvature of the Earth? "Airport runway" - Since that is a paved surface only 8000 ft long, it probably was artificially leveled and does not reflect the curvature of the Earth. We will see. In any case I am going to make it happen sooner or later. I suggest that you do the experiment. But make sure you know what you're doing. For example, study surveying equipment and techniques. Don't be like some of these clowns on Youtube that think they're going to prove something, ask people for donations, and then find out too late that they don't have a clue what they're doing. The original experiment took 5 months to set up by a professional surveyor and a crew. That does not include building the equipment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70454741 Spain 10/03/2015 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK I have now read most of Cellular Cosmology - its available online as PDF. It is surprisingly modern and rather easy to understand. Very strange not more came from this in the sense of other scientists trying to replicate. If you are interested in this topic I highly recommend reading that book. |
LostReality33 User ID: 61464139 United States 10/03/2015 02:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The rectilineator experiment, if actually conducted, was still flawed- you can't measure one little part of the earth and extrapolate off of that that the whole earth would continue in that trend of curvature, because that is making an inference that cannot be proven in and of itself." Those words were not spoken by or typed up by Dave Eager. "I never act without a purpose." -Duke Austerberry "It's a bad time for the world if you're a boy or a girl or maybe something in between, it doesn't matter; we all gotta go green and trust everything the authorities tell us, because they love us and they only want the best for us..." ~Lance Hardcore If you click this thread you can hear Maynard James Keenan of TOOL sing "THE WORLD MUST FEEL THIS SEPTEMBER ELEVEN" 4 months before 9/11 Thread: TOOL The Patient 9/11 REVERSED MUSIC VIDEO "THE WORLD MUST FEEL THIS SEPTEMBER ELEVEN" <---4 MONTHS BEFORE 9/11 I've now got a website up and running exploring this new discovery of the Dark Speech, reversed secrets now revealed NO PERSONAL ADVERTISING to ULTRASONIC REVERSE SPEECH ANALYSIS CHANNEL: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Subscribe to DARK SPEECH DECODER CHANNEL: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Subscribe to the JOHNNY DARK SPEAK CHANNEL: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Get in on The Extreme Reality Puppet Show! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] "This videocast offers unique and never-before-heard information coming to you direct from ONE EPIC NAME on the INWO scene; David Eager. The Extreme Reality Puppet Show is the FIRST, BEST & ONLY Conspiracy Puppet Show IN THE WORLD! TELL ALL YOUR FRIENDS!" The time is NOW! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70454741 Spain 10/03/2015 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The rectilineator experiment, if actually conducted, was still flawed- you can't measure one little part of the earth and extrapolate off of that that the whole earth would continue in that trend of curvature, because that is making an inference that cannot be proven in and of itself." Quoting: LostReality33 Those words were not spoken by or typed up by Dave Eager. "if actually conducted" ? Why would someone even question if the experiment was conducted given all the witnesses and press coverage and the ample documentation of the experiment? Makes no sense. Also the premise that you cannot measure "one little part of the earth and extrapolate off of that that the whole earth would continue in that trend of curvature" is rubbish. They created a perfectly leveled air line and forced it mechanically for 4 miles to see if the deviation generated actually matched the accepted understanding of the general curvature of the Earth. The conducted the experiment in such a way that the line was forced regardless of terrain and tide. So no I disagree with that statement which sounds like dismissal before examination. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70420107 United States 10/03/2015 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The rectilineator experiment, if actually conducted, was still flawed- you can't measure one little part of the earth and extrapolate off of that that the whole earth would continue in that trend of curvature, because that is making an inference that cannot be proven in and of itself." Quoting: LostReality33 Those words were not spoken by or typed up by Dave Eager. "... you can't measure one little part of the earth and extrapolate off of that that the whole earth would continue in that trend of curvature, because that is making an inference that cannot be proven in and of itself." Keep in mind that the "one little part" was the ocean at the coastline. (The linear wooden structure was referenced to the ocean.) Perhaps there was some local anomaly due to the tides? I know that they filtered the variation of the tides with the caissons, but that is not what I am talking about. Perhaps the convexity they measured was due to the effect of the Moon on the tidal basin? Perhaps if they measured the ocean far away from the shore, they would obtain a different measurement? I think a large quiet lake is a better choice than a seashore, although you may have to get your feet wet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70454741 Spain 10/03/2015 11:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "... you can't measure one little part of the earth and extrapolate off of that that the whole earth would continue in that trend of curvature, because that is making an inference that cannot be proven in and of itself." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70420107 Keep in mind that the "one little part" was the ocean at the coastline. (The linear wooden structure was referenced to the ocean.) Perhaps there was some local anomaly due to the tides? I know that they filtered the variation of the tides with the caissons, but that is not what I am talking about. Perhaps the convexity they measured was due to the effect of the Moon on the tidal basin? Perhaps if they measured the ocean far away from the shore, they would obtain a different measurement? I think a large quiet lake is a better choice than a seashore, although you may have to get your feet wet. An anomaly that exactly matches a perfect curvature that matches the currently eaccepted circumferance of the Earth? Unlikely. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70454741 Spain 10/05/2015 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Looks like they are actually going to do the experiment on South Padre Island in Texas - I saw a video of the caissons being built a few days ago. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70454741 Best of luck to them... Wouldn't a quiet lake be easier? No caissons required. Makes sense. Not sure why a lake was not chosen. In any case it will be interesting to follow. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70454741 Spain 10/06/2015 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If anyone reading this has information on the current Rectilineator experiment being conducted on South Padre Island in Texas please post/update here. I have seen some users posting that are actively participating please confirm. |
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Lake Pontchartrain Causeway User ID: 70561350 United States 10/19/2015 07:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The "Lake Pontchartrain Causeway" is the longest bridge over water. It is over 20 miles long (23.83 miles) near New Orleans, Louisiana. This bridge is constructed on concrete pilings and is 60 feet above the water level. According to Wolfram Alpha dot com, the horizontal curvature for 23.8 miles is 377.3 feet. (Wolfram Alpha uses a fancy trig formula. The "rough calculation" of 8 inches per mile squared gives 377.6 feet, which is virtually the same number.) Does the "Lake Pontchartrain Causeway" show a curvature of 377 feet? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70624272 Guatemala 11/11/2015 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I fear the guys are biased. Concave earth people seem to be acting crazy and like its their baby so I dont think they will admit if they are wrong. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41569388 After all this publicity, if you don't hear anything soon, it may mean that they found something different than what they were looking for! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25812698 New Zealand 11/22/2015 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I fear the guys are biased. Concave earth people seem to be acting crazy and like its their baby so I dont think they will admit if they are wrong. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41569388 After all this publicity, if you don't hear anything soon, it may mean that they found something different than what they were looking for! This will take a long time yet. They haven't even got a prototype yet. And the metal when it arrived was defective so they had to send it back. |
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