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I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

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A word is like a weapon. It can be used for evil or it can be used for good. It can destroy or it can heal.'It can be a pillar of hope in times of doubt. It Can make your name worthy and honorable or it can bring it to shame and disgrace. So which one is likely to be remembered by you, your friend and your adversary? Can You Be A King Above All Kings or Would You Rather Be... 'A King In The Myst Of Kings', Like... 'A Brother? Remember,' Only One Name, Is More Worthy'... Than All The Rest.'
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I was supposed to come here and say something along the lines of "The witnesses have arrived, They do not yet know who they are, or that they are the witnesses. They visit the site Godlike."



erm. C'mon!

The two witnesses will be seen at the Wailing Wall, a sacred place and they will be god-like.

The two witnesses are from the Old Testament. They never died. They ascended to heaven and will be back when the anti-crist emerges.
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If this is true...it's nobody alive reading this. They died before the Bible was written. RIGHT?
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A word is like a weapon. It can be used for evil or it can be used for good. It can destroy or it can heal.'It can be a pillar of hope in times of doubt. It Can make your name worthy and honorable or it can bring it to shame and disgrace. So which one is likely to be remembered by you, your friend and your adversary? Can You Be A King Above All Kings or Can You Be A King In The Myst Of Kings, Like... 'A Brother? Remember,' Only One Name, Is More Worthy'... Than All The Rest.'


Hello,

Are the two witnesses of God God-sent messengers, or are they not. If they are, who will accuse them, and for what reason?

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Answer to question 1- yes............. Answer to question 2- What do you mean when you say accused? Do you mean, who will persecute them? Because then, I would say Satan will................... Answer to question 3- to condemn or to make them stumble or to make them strong in the power of there faith or to fulfill or to gain understanding in who god really is. U remember that 1 scripture when satan led Jesus to a high place and told him that he would give him all the kingdoms of the world' But Jesus refused by saying: Get yee behind me satan for thall shall worship thy father in heaven. The word 'Heavenly Father, has great meaning to me. To me, it means to live a worthy cause, so that the spirit that God created can learn how to understand... the importance for living in a holy and rightious life and by doing so they can give glory to the father which is in heaven. Jesus life's story explains it and so do the prophets. Correction is even made in heaven. There is a war in heaven and You are in it. You can choose to be blind or you can choose to see. Instinct has always been within us, since the day we were born. When we come of age instinct was our survival kit,our priority. When We were young we were unawhare of it's meaning. The word survival can mean so many things to so many people but to me survival means understanding the sacred knowledge which can only come from the holy spirit, so that I might learn how to live and give glory to the father which is in heaven. Remember the holy spirit that I speak of is different from the other spirits that god created.
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...."And power was given unto him (to continue) forty and two months" Rev.13 .... In order "TO CONTINUE"....wouldn't that person have to allready be in a position of some significance...? rockon
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remenber it's about the jews, the two witnesses will make sure they don't fall for his crap, the jews are waiting on their masyah and the witnesses will let them know it was JESUS CHRIST, and this time they believe and repent

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They will not.

The same shit happens a second time. This time with the two Witnesess in place of Jesus.

There are mesianic Jews already in Judea. And they are persecuted by the Orthodox ones. The very similar situation as 2000 years ago.
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who does the city sit on?



Thanks for the intro.

The beast out of the sea was given a mouth for 42 months.

President Chester Arthur served for precisely 1260 days.

Learn more about Arthur and Obama:
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The "spokesperson" for the beast out of the earth is better known as the false prophet:










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Hello friend,

Do not speak about Daniel's seventieth seven as though that period of time belongs to our time. No, the last "week" of the Jews' 70 "weeks" ended in the year 36 AD.

Jesus, our Saviour, died in the midst of the last "week" (7 years), namely in the year 33 AD. Please, do not mix thing up!

Greetings from
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I would offer this since you are very close.

Since Jesus was cut off in the midst of the week and the prophecy states that his ministry was to be one week, isn't there yet one-half week to fulfill?

Yes, there is.

When Jesus read from Isaiah he said, 'The Spirit of the Lord GOD [is] upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to [them that are] bound;To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD,' and he closed the book.

That is what he was sent to do as messiah, and he did that.

But, that isn't the end of that paragraph... there is more, see the comma?

What is left then for the messiah to do during his final three-and-one-half years of ministry?

'and the day of vengeance of our God;'

He must proclaim the acceptable year of the lord AND the day of vengeance.

So he has yet three-and-one-half years to proclaim the day of vengeance.

Tell me, how long is the great tribulation wherein by the power of Christ two witnesses prophecy on the streets of Jerusalem?

And why Jerusalem?

Because it is written that no prophet will die outside Jerusalem and they are both prophets.

Jerusalem after the flesh is the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt.

How do we know this? Same way, the two are prophets and a prophet cannot die outside Jerusalem.

Christ has yet three-and-one-half years remaining which he will fulfill in the two witnesses.


Dear Aman,

Let me correct your misunderstandings of Scripture. First of all, Jesus died both in a so-called historical meaning and a spiritual meaning of Dan 9:27. This means that historically Jesus died in the midst of the last seven of 70 seventy sevens, which lasted from 29 AD to 36 AD, and spiritually he died in the midst of 1260 years, which 4 Esdras 7 calls a "week", thus in 666 AD, which is the midst of 1260 years. The end of the 3,5 years in 36 AD is what Acts 13:46 testifies to.

The acceptable year about which Jesus read from Isaiah have both a historical and a spiritual meaning. The spiritual meaning is the one that applies to our time. You can read about this in Hab 3:2, where the prophet reveals that God will start His great work in the midst of NT time:

"O Jehovah, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Jehovah, revive thy work IN THE MIDST OF THE YEARS; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy." (Hab 3:2 ASV)

This aligns with Zech 11:14, where we read that the Lord cuts asunder his staff BANDS. Since the first staff Beauty in Zech 11:10 is Jesus, everybody ought to know that Bands comes in the NT time, namely in the midst of NT time according to Hab 3:2. He thus also is the BRANCH that comes out of the roots of the SHOOT, who is Jesus in Isa 11:1.

The branch, who is called BANDS, is the one foretold in Rev 20:1, for he starts what Jesus talks about in Matt 19:28. That time and day is the day of vengeance, and God's people partake of it, as you can see from Psalm 149. That day is also the acceptable year, for on it takes REGENERATION place (Matt 19:28).

The two witnesses will not prophesy in the great tribulation but before it starts. Nobody can witness during the tribulation. It is a pentacostalist lie!

The two witnesses will not die in historical Jerusalem but in Jerusalem after the flesh, which is false Christianity. Yes, it is true that the two witnesses cannot die outside Jerusalem, but this means that the Jerusalem spoken of is the one which also Heb 12:22 mentions.

The 3,5 years during which Christ will fulfil his prophecies through his two prophets, run in their historical sense before the great tribulation starts, and in their spiritual sense in the time period of the Gentiles, which lasts for 1260 years.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

Okay, what do you mean, do I need more classes of the kind that you have taken part in?
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Classes?

I participate in no classes but have learned all from the Holy Spirit.

No, I have spent no time under the tutelage of any except the comforter.

I am sorry if you think me unlearned or mistaken or in need of clarification but I stand firm.
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the two witnesses cannot die outside Jerusalem

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Jesus himself died outside the walls of Jerusalem, outside the Old city. So think twice.
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the two witnesses cannot die outside Jerusalem



Jesus himself died outside the walls of Jerusalem, outside the Old city. So think twice.
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Luke 13:33
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remenber it's about the jews, the two witnesses will make sure they don't fall for his crap, the jews are waiting on their masyah and the witnesses will let them know it was JESUS CHRIST, and this time they believe and repent



They will not.

The same shit happens a second time. This time with the two Witnesess in place of Jesus.

There are mesianic Jews already in Judea. And they are persecuted by the Orthodox ones. The very similar situation as 2000 years ago.




no, i believe your wrong here. the jews rejected Jesus in order to save the gentile. so the rest of the world could be invited to the marage supper. it started with the jews and will end with the jews. i'm not a 100% sure on this, but it makes since to me. the two witness go up against the anti-christ and false phophet as proof Jesus was indeed the man. remember the ant- and the false know the truth. the jews will believe i think. as far the rest of the world. don't look good look for them. this is just my thought not sure...
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Thanks for your reply. Yet I adhere to my opinion. I am very critical regarding Judaism, not Jews. The true Jews are but ones who already believe in Jesus being the Messiah. All else are ...

the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews though they are not, but are liars Revelation 3:9 ... "You are doing the things your own father does." "We are not illegitimate children," they protested. "The only Father we have is God himself." ... If God were your Father, you would love me, for I came from God and now am here. I have not come on my own; but he sent me. ... You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning John 8:44
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Jesus himself died outside the walls of Jerusalem, outside the Old city. So think twice.


Luke 13:33
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.. so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. Hebrews 13:12
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the two witnesses cannot die outside Jerusalem



Jesus himself died outside the walls of Jerusalem, outside the Old city. So think twice.


Luke 13:33


.. so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. Hebrews 13:12
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Jesus was more than a prophet, he was THE SAVIOUR.
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the two witnesses cannot die outside Jerusalem



Jesus himself died outside the walls of Jerusalem, outside the Old city. So think twice.


Luke 13:33


.. so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. Hebrews 13:12



Jesus was more than a prophet, he was THE SAVIOUR.
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The prophets never died outside of Jerusalem, none of them, to make the people holy! Think twice yourself!
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the two witnesses cannot die outside Jerusalem



Jesus himself died outside the walls of Jerusalem, outside the Old city. So think twice.


Luke 13:33


.. so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. Hebrews 13:12



Jesus was more than a prophet, he was THE SAVIOUR.
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More than a prophet is each one who believes Jesus is the Messiah. The two Witnesses will be more than prophets too.

"The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it. Luke 16:16
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the two witnesses cannot die outside Jerusalem



Jesus himself died outside the walls of Jerusalem, outside the Old city. So think twice.


Luke 13:33


.. so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. Hebrews 13:12



Jesus was more than a prophet, he was THE SAVIOUR.


More than a prophet is each one who believes Jesus is the Messiah. The two Witnesses will be more than prophets too.

"The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it. Luke 16:16
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No prophet can die outside of Jerusalem to make people holy, except Jesus our Saviour. A prophet is just a messenger, not the Saviour. You cannot annul Luke 13.33, the words of Jesus himself. Who do you want to be?
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the two witnesses cannot die outside Jerusalem



Jesus himself died outside the walls of Jerusalem, outside the Old city. So think twice.


Luke 13:33


.. so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. Hebrews 13:12



Jesus was more than a prophet, he was THE SAVIOUR.


More than a prophet is each one who believes Jesus is the Messiah. The two Witnesses will be more than prophets too.

"The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it. Luke 16:16



No prophet can die outside of Jerusalem to make people holy, except Jesus our Saviour. A prophet is just a messenger, not the Saviour. You cannot annul Luke 13.33, the words of Jesus himself. Who do you want to be?
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Ok. Take it for what it is: my opinion. We all shall see for ourselves.
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the two witnesses cannot die outside Jerusalem



Jesus himself died outside the walls of Jerusalem, outside the Old city. So think twice.


Luke 13:33


.. so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. Hebrews 13:12



Jesus was more than a prophet, he was THE SAVIOUR.


More than a prophet is each one who believes Jesus is the Messiah. The two Witnesses will be more than prophets too.

"The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it. Luke 16:16



No prophet can die outside of Jerusalem to make people holy, except Jesus our Saviour. A prophet is just a messenger, not the Saviour. You cannot annul Luke 13.33, the words of Jesus himself. Who do you want to be?


Ok. Take it for what it is: my opinion. We all shall see for ourselves.
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This thread is awesome.

The rapture will not occur in 2010, 2011 nor 2012. No, we have much more to go through. Before that day comes, all of you will have no food, and will eat even grass if you could. The pain that is coming is avoidable, but those who have the power to change things too often believe that they are indestructible.
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This thread is awesome.

The rapture will not occur in 2010, 2011 nor 2012. No, we have much more to go through. Before that day comes, all of you will have no food, and will eat even grass if you could. The pain that is coming is avoidable, but those who have the power to change things too often believe that they are indestructible.
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Hm,

What will mister witness Edward McKinney answer now?
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Hm,

What will mister witness Edward McKinney answer now?
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I have never heard of McKinney before. Quite an interesting read. But I can more than assure you that he is wrong on a few points.

McKinney states that:
"When the Beast and those who believe in the bestial way of life murder the Two Witnesses, who will be aged 66.6 in 2012, the bestial world will culminate. The Old World of bestial conduct will peak and begin a decline. After those three days in 2012, the Two Witnesses will be sparked back to life. They will stand up and shock the world."
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This will not be the case.
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Hm,

What will mister witness Edward McKinney answer now?


I have never heard of McKinney before. Quite an interesting read. But I can more than assure you that he is wrong on a few points.

McKinney states that:
"When the Beast and those who believe in the bestial way of life murder the Two Witnesses, who will be aged 66.6 in 2012, the bestial world will culminate. The Old World of bestial conduct will peak and begin a decline. After those three days in 2012, the Two Witnesses will be sparked back to life. They will stand up and shock the world."
[link to ezinearticles.com]

This will not be the case.
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What?

Is he deceiving people?
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What?

Is he deceiving people?
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He is mistaken. I can't answer whether he is intentionally deceiving people, but he is most certainly wrong. The world will go on after 2012, with the worst coming much later.
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What?

Is he deceiving people?


He is mistaken. I can't answer whether he is intentionally deceiving people, but he is most certainly wrong. The world will go on after 2012, with the worst coming much later.
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Thanks,

Thanks for your answer. Edward McKinney has as a world expert written a thick book on Daniel the prophet and the book of Revelation which was too expensive for me to buy. And I was in doubt, as well, asking why a book written by a man of God could be that expensive. I hope the true two witnesses will be cheaper when they have a book on such things.
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Edward McKinney has as a world expert written a thick book on Daniel the prophet and the book of Revelation which was too expensive for me to buy. And I was in doubt, as well, asking why a book written by a man of God could be that expensive. I hope the true two witnesses will be cheaper when they have a book on such things.
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Tell me this: which will spread the word more, a book that people will see in stores and can buy, or a book that is free on the internet? The answer is both. The important information should always be free. There's a distinct advantage to publishing, since it is easier to verify that their prophecies did exist before they occurred. So, there most likely will be two books, provided they can find a publisher and have the time for two.
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Edward McKinney has as a world expert written a thick book on Daniel the prophet and the book of Revelation which was too expensive for me to buy. And I was in doubt, as well, asking why a book written by a man of God could be that expensive. I hope the true two witnesses will be cheaper when they have a book on such things.


Tell me this: which will spread the word more, a book that people will see in stores and can buy, or a book that is free on the internet? The answer is both. The important information should always be free. There's a distinct advantage to publishing, since it is easier to verify that their prophecies did exist before they occurred. So, there most likely will be two books, provided they can find a publisher and have the time for two.
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Sorry about one more doubt,

Somebody whispered to me that the two witnesses will not be able to read or write. And if they say something, they do so in an awkward way (maybe grating voice, bad clothes, or something even worse), who will be in the position to understand that they are what they later are shown to be?

Seems so easy to overlook them!
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Tell me this: which will spread the word more, a book that people will see in stores and can buy, or a book that is free on the internet?
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This one is free on the internet:

Pres. C. Arthur served for 42 mo. as predicted by REVELATION! Both he and OBAMA were British citizens at birth! (Guess what’s next)

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Sorry about one more doubt,

Somebody whispered to me that the two witnesses will not be able to read or write. And if they say something, they do so in an awkward way (maybe grating voice, bad clothes, or something even worse), who will be in the position to understand that they are what they later are shown to be?

Seems so easy to overlook them!
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Please, don't apologize for your question.

I recommend that you review Revelation 11. It says nothing about them being able to read or write, while it does say that they will be "clothed in sackcloth". Clothed in sackcloth could be metaphorical (like that they are really sad because the world is being destroyed and people sin) or it could be literal (the economy could be so horrible that "sackcloth" is all that they have to wear, or they wear nothing but black as a sign of mourning, or could be an overall look to them). Just because they will be "clothed in sackcloth" for a time, does not mean that they will spend their lives that way. While it is fun to imagine that they might not be able to be understood, don't forget to imagine what it would be like if they were well understood.

They wouldn't be very good witnesses if their testimony was no different from many Christians today. I mean, the witnesses testimony will have an extra kick to it. An extra source of proof. You won't know who they are at the beginning, but that's for a variety of reasons - the stage is still being set up so there is no show yet.

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Tell me this: which will spread the word more, a book that people will see in stores and can buy, or a book that is free on the internet?


This one is free on the internet:

Pres. C. Arthur served for 42 mo. as predicted by REVELATION! Both he and OBAMA were British citizens at birth! (Guess what’s next)

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Sorry,

the contents on the link is so messy, I don't get the gist of it.
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Sorry,

the contents on the link is so messy, I don't get the gist of it.
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Ackward perhaps?






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Sorry,

the contents on the link is so messy, I don't get the gist of it.


Ackward perhaps?

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"The Book of Daniel describes 490 years prior to the destruction of the “anti-Christ” and the clock started ticking when the first Church was built in the new world in 1522. This projects a destruction in 2012.""

How do you know that the time is based off of when the first church was built in America? Why not 490 years since Martin Luther nailed his Theses to the door? Or 490 years from when Gutenberg invented the printing press?

"The Book of Daniel describes 2300 days prior to the restoration of the sanctuary- This lines up with the date: 6/1/06. (616)- (A version of the Bible [Papyrus 115] identifies 616 with the anti-Christ.)
The Book of Daniel describes 1335 days to the restoration of the sanctuary-"

You state two things based on the restoration of the sanctuary, yet you give no date for the restoration of the sanctuary. So, 2300 days prior to some random date?
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You state two things based on the restoration of the sanctuary, yet you give no date for the restoration of the sanctuary. So, 2300 days prior to some random date?
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9/17/2012. Rosh Hashana.


[link to www.timeanddate.com]


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