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I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

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can't get noghting but more crap from you norway. how are they going to laydead in the street?
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Hello chipg,

I experience again and again that you throw forth accusations that you cannot prove, so is it not high time you instead started to substantiate your words with Holy Scripture?

Show everybody here that you are something more than a mere muck thrower who cannot prove his words!

You ought to know that the "2300 evenings and mornings" cannot be understood by anybody else than the true witness of God, for everybody else have no terminus a quo for those evenings and mornings.

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One quick question, were the two witnesses mentioned in any threads/posts in the time just previous to the OP's post? If so then the two witnesses are being 'talked about' so that is sort of like being alive. All the other hits on Google should also have been followed, just to be make sure all possibilities were considered.

Since the two have a limited time, 1260 days and the 3rd woe, it won't take long to see if it pans out or not.

Was there ever any details of the dream given as the two are in Jerusalem for at least the last few days and I assume the war they fight with Satan takes up almost all of that time period.

Trying to force today's events into prophecy isn't always possible. Take that recent fire in Israel, a firestorm in the true sense of the term. Until you 'discover' it was a man-made forest of pine that had been without a burn for many decades. Boil a pine tree and you get turpentine in vapor form, add a strong wind and it can scoot across the top of the canopy for 100's of yards in even a smaller inferno. That is poor forest management rather than God being involved.

Has the 3 1/2 day offset been covered yet? Satan's Beast from the Pit is also given a period of 1260 days and it is that Beast that kills the two witnesses for 3 1/2 days. Their resurrection marks the end of the Beasts reign as that is the time the 7th trump sounds, Christ reign where all sinners are dead by the end of that 'other 1/2 day.

Wouldn't their exploits start 3 1/2 days earlier than the start time of the Beast from the Pit. The Beast's time start at the sound of the 5th trump so the witness's time starts 3 1/2 earlier. Can all of the 4 previous trumps happen in rapid succession so that the 'sealing' is accomplished by the sound of the 1st trump?
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You wouldn't know a "prophet" even if they kicked you in the ass.
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You ought to know that the "2300 evenings and mornings" cannot be understood by anybody else than the true witness of God, for everybody else have no terminus a quo for those evenings and mornings.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1197136

1500 days from the cross (mid-point of the 70th week) Stephen preached in the Temple and then they killed him. That was a key peice if a few words in Daniel 9. 'for the overspreading of abominations it will me made desolate until the end (which is the 7th trump of Revelation)
That has nothing to do with the 'wisdom' that God gave us in the book called Revelation, those are the times that should be used. Things likes, one day and one hour mean just what they say.

Da.8:13
Then I heard one saint speaking,
and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake,
How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice,
and the transgression of desolation,
to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
Da.8:14
And he said unto me,
Unto two thousand and three hundred days;
then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
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YOU may be one of the witnesses OP. The second is "out there".
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You wouldn't know a "prophet" even if they kicked you in the ass.
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These days only their words survive, obviously their words have not jumped out at you. A 'profit' is more likely to save me from getting a kick in the ass than reading a book.

What do you take the words below to mean? I take it to be more than a few words that 'silence' somebody.

"fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies: "
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can't get noghting but more crap from you norway. how are they going to laydead in the street?
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Hello chipg,

You ask how they are going to lie dead in the street?

My answer:
The first thing to know is that the two witnesses will lie dead in the wide street of the great city Babylon, where also their Lord was crucified, not in the narrow street of Jerusalem. In Mat 7:13-14 Jesus explains what 'wide' and 'narrow' means in this context.

When the Antichrist (2 John 7) overcame the saints (the apostolic church), as was foretold in Rev 13:7, our Lord was crucified in the spiritual meaning. Because of the falling-away He had to leave the hearts of those who remained in this fallen and no longer true apostolic church.

So, in like manner, the two witnesses will lie dead in the wide (spiritual) street of the great city. This means that those who still remain the inhabitants of Babylon after the outcry to leave her (Rev 18:4), thus neglecting the warning, will spurn the true testimony of the literal two witnesses, which consists of the Law and the Gospel, which are the two witnesses in spiritual meaning. In other words, the inhabitants of Babylon do not accept in their hearts the gospel and the law or allow these two spiritual witnesses to be alive in their city, so therefore the literal two witnesses are rejected and treated as dead bodies without the spirit of God. When the inhabitants of the great city finally succeed in prevailing against the two witnesses they will rejoice and use their victory as a token of their being in the right. What they do not believe or see yet, is that God Almighty will let loose on their heads the devastating tribulation of world war III, leaving no more opportunity for any person to claim that he or she is one of the two witnesses. In spiritual sense the cloud mentioned in Rev is the doctrine of the man child, which God will reveal at that time to be the only true doctrine of God. He will thus show all nations and peoples that the two witnesses ascend to His throne as the real witnesses in spite of what the majority believed, and in spite of the bad treatment they had to undergo. In literal meaning the cloud will be the atomic cloud that convinces everybody, high and low, that the end indeed has come after the words and testimony of the two humiliated witnesses.

Do you believe this or not? I tell you that everybody who rejects my testimony is very much to be pitied!

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Do you believe this or not? I tell you that everybody who rejects my testimony is very much to be pitied!

Greetings from
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 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1197136



And there you go again...you do not sound humble.

Did John and Island of patmos say it was his message?...did any of the prophets speak as you do and say "if you reject MY testimony is very much to be pitied!"



How can you be a witness if you do not even know who the false moshiac (the beast is?)


who is the beast and false prophet of revelation 13?
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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You ought to know that the "2300 evenings and mornings" cannot be understood by anybody else than the true witness of God, for everybody else have no terminus a quo for those evenings and mornings.

1500 days from the cross (mid-point of the 70th week) Stephen preached in the Temple and then they killed him. That was a key peice if a few words in Daniel 9. 'for the overspreading of abominations it will me made desolate until the end (which is the 7th trump of Revelation)
That has nothing to do with the 'wisdom' that God gave us in the book called Revelation, those are the times that should be used. Things likes, one day and one hour mean just what they say.

Da.8:13
Then I heard one saint speaking,
and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake,
How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice,
and the transgression of desolation,
to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?
Da.8:14
And he said unto me,
Unto two thousand and three hundred days;
then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 Quoting: MHz


Dear MHz,

Please let me comment you on several points and correct you as well. It is all done to help you.

I think part of your problem has got to do with your thoughts about the end and Dan 9:27. I will quote it below and give you my comments:

"And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate. (Dan 9:1 ASV)

My comment:
The one who will make a firm covenant with many for a week is Jesus Christ. Nobody else can make a firm covenant except Him. The week mentioned here is the last year-week of the 70 "weeks" in Dan 9:24. This last year-week started in 29 CE and ended in 36 CE. When Jesus died in the midst of this last week, namely in 33 CE, He caused sacrifice and the oblation to cease, thenceforth His redemptive death was the only means to blot out our sins.

The one that comes upon the wing of abomination and makes desolate, is, in spiritual sense, the Antichrist. He should succeed in his war on the saints, as seen in Rev 13, and gain total victory. In that way the whole true apostolic church was made desolate. Read 1 Cor 3:17, and you see what is determined to happen to anybody who destroys God's spiritual temple. Psalm 149:9 says this:

"To execute upon them the judgment written"

This means that it is all foretold in Holy Scripture.

The full end is the total destruction of the power of those who destroyed truth on earth. It does not take place in the time period of the seventh trumpet, but without doubt in the beginning of the time period of the sixth trumpet. Read Rev 9:13-15 and compare it with the sixth seal in Rev 7:12-16, which describes the same time with different words.

As for wisdom to understand the contents of the book of Revelation, there was found nobody worthy of opening that book, except the Lamb himself through his BRANCH. Read Rev 5:3 and be convinced that I tell you the truth!

Greetings from
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Do you believe this or not? I tell you that everybody who rejects my testimony is very much to be pitied!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah



And there you go again...you do not sound humble.

Did John and Island of patmos say it was his message?...did any of the prophets speak as you do and say "if you reject MY testimony is very much to be pitied!"



How can you be a witness if you do not even know who the false moshiac (the beast is?)


who is the beast and false prophet of revelation 13?
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!


Hello,

Did you ever think that Paul the apostle was a proud person, lacking in humility, saying the following?:

"(...) in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men, according to MY gospel, by Jesus Christ. (Rom 2:16 ASV)

You say this to me:

"How can you be a witness if you do not even know who the false moshiac (the beast is?)"

My answer:
Who told you what I do not know? When you say that I do not even know who the beast is, you imply that the beast is a person. That is totally wrong.

You will never ever be able to prove from Holy Scripture that the beast that came out of the sea in Rev 13 is a person!!! Okay, catch me if you can by proving what you imply!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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This sounds like a Mafia game trying to figure out who is good and who is bad. Besides, going back to 103 is like reading a book. I have too much to do to go back that far.

Chipg: Do you believe that there are literal 2 witnesses with supernatural power sent by God to be His mouth piece? Yes/No

PehJeshuah: Do you believe that there are literal 2 witnesses with supernatural power sent by God to be His mouth piece? Yes/No
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YES!!!
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Do you believe this or not? I tell you that everybody who rejects my testimony is very much to be pitied!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah



And there you go again...you do not sound humble.

Did John and Island of patmos say it was his message?...did any of the prophets speak as you do and say "if you reject MY testimony is very much to be pitied!"



How can you be a witness if you do not even know who the false moshiac (the beast is?)


who is the beast and false prophet of revelation 13?


Hello,

Did you ever think that Paul the apostle was a proud person, lacking in humility, saying the following?:

"(...) in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men, according to MY gospel, by Jesus Christ. (Rom 2:16 ASV)

You say this to me:

"How can you be a witness if you do not even know who the false moshiac (the beast is?)"

My answer:
Who told you what I do not know? When you say that I do not even know who the beast is, you imply that the beast is a person. That is totally wrong.

You will never ever be able to prove from Holy Scripture that the beast that came out of the sea in Rev 13 is a person!!! Okay, catch me if you can by proving what you imply!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1197136



The burdon of proof is on you because I can show by scripture the beast of revelation 13 and its false prophet...


I dont' talk of generalizations and 'god wants you to repent" and "do good" and "love jesus"


I'm telling the world that the queen of heaven..asherah who laid a heavy yoke on Israel and Judah is returning in the flesh to make war with YAH's holy people in the end.....


This is the unfinished business of the battle of mt. Carmel for it was Eliyahu who battled the prophets of "The Lord" and "Asherah"

and had to flee from the pursuit of Jezebel....

its not over!

Revelation 2
20Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

22Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.



This is the TRUE MESSAGE OF THE TWO WITNESSES...


The queen of heaven is coming for us all!!!


ABM

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1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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One quick question, were the two witnesses mentioned in any threads/posts in the time just previous to the OP's post? If so then the two witnesses are being 'talked about' so that is sort of like being alive. All the other hits on Google should also have been followed, just to be make sure all possibilities were considered.

Since the two have a limited time, 1260 days and the 3rd woe, it won't take long to see if it pans out or not.

Was there ever any details of the dream given as the two are in Jerusalem for at least the last few days and I assume the war they fight with Satan takes up almost all of that time period.

Trying to force today's events into prophecy isn't always possible. Take that recent fire in Israel, a firestorm in the true sense of the term. Until you 'discover' it was a man-made forest of pine that had been without a burn for many decades. Boil a pine tree and you get turpentine in vapor form, add a strong wind and it can scoot across the top of the canopy for 100's of yards in even a smaller inferno. That is poor forest management rather than God being involved.

Has the 3 1/2 day offset been covered yet? Satan's Beast from the Pit is also given a period of 1260 days and it is that Beast that kills the two witnesses for 3 1/2 days. Their resurrection marks the end of the Beasts reign as that is the time the 7th trump sounds, Christ reign where all sinners are dead by the end of that 'other 1/2 day.

Wouldn't their exploits start 3 1/2 days earlier than the start time of the Beast from the Pit. The Beast's time start at the sound of the 5th trump so the witness's time starts 3 1/2 earlier. Can all of the 4 previous trumps happen in rapid succession so that the 'sealing' is accomplished by the sound of the 1st trump?
 Quoting: MHz


Dear MHz,

Let me comment on what you write and guide you to the truth.

First, the two witnesses do not start to witness in the time of the third woe but in the time of the second woe. The third woe and the seventh trumpet relate to the same time period. Read Rev Rev 9:13-14 and compare with Rev 11:14-15 to be convinced of me telling you the truth!

Second, the true two witnesses are not in historical Jerusalem but in spiritual Jerusalem. The reason is that the time period of the sixth trumpet is still the time period of the Gentiles. The Jews man children were circumcised on the eighth day, which symbolizes the 8th thousand-year period. We are now living in the seventh thousand-year period (1260 years), thus before the midst of the NT time, with still another 1260 years to come, which is the great time period of the Jews.

Listen, God will not kill all sinners in the beginning of the sixth trumpet's time, but "only 2/3" to take back His rule.

The 3,5 year period of the two witnesses has not yet started, but the witnesses are already around if not as prophets.

The beast rules through the third, fourth, and fifth seal's period of time. At the end of the fifth trumpet's time comes the man child.

The two witnesses will not be resurrected bodily until the very last day, as Jesus himself tells us. Believe it!

These were my comments. What I tell you cannot be refuted with Holy Scripture, so please take care and study honestly what I tell you! If you think I lack humility then read Luke 4:32, for the true doctrine of Jesus Christ has imbued me.

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Please let me comment you on several points and correct you as well. It is all done to help you.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1197136

Fair enough.

I think part of your problem has got to do with your thoughts about the end and Dan 9:27. I will quote it below and give you my comments:

"And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate. (Dan 9:1 ASV)

My comment:
The one who will make a firm covenant with many for a week is Jesus Christ. Nobody else can make a firm covenant except Him.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1197136

The passage starts off with God being the keeper of covenants, how did you manage to change it in just a few verses? In the garden on the night of His arrest Jesus confirmed with God that the cross was His will. Abomination(s) would not just be Stephen's murder it would include the tables of the money-changers that would have been operating again after the cross. Blood sacrifices were to stop after the cross. The 'full end' is still in our future, Daniel 11 is still all future and the 7th trump of Revelation is not until the end of that chapter.


Da.9:4
And I prayed unto the LORD my God,
and made my confession,
and said,
O Lord,
the great and dreadful God,
keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him,
and to them that keep his commandments;

God also happens to be the rider in the 1st seal in Revelation.

The week mentioned here is the last year-week of the 70 "weeks" in Dan 9:24. This last year-week started in 29 CE and ended in 36 CE. When Jesus died in the midst of this last week, namely in 33 CE, He caused sacrifice and the oblation to cease, thenceforth His redemptive death was the only means to blot out our sins.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1197136

The 2nd half of that week also played out, it is part of the brass as described in chapter 8. During the brass the 'time of the Gentiles' was established. That same 'period of time' exists until His return at the sound of the 7th trump.

The one that comes upon the wing of abomination and makes desolate, is, in spiritual sense, the Antichrist. He should succeed in his war on the saints, as seen in Rev 13, and gain total victory. In that way the whole true apostolic church was made desolate. Read 1 Cor 3:17, and you see what is determined to happen to anybody who destroys God's spiritual temple.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1197136

The Saints during that 42 months is just the two witnesses, all the armies of men will align themselves with the Beast from the Pit. The 4 fallen angels of the 6th trump kill several billion people in 1110 days, Satan would gladly sacrifice some of the clay armies if it helped his deception appear more real. Daniel 11 gives up their whole battle plan for the time and the area.

You are trying to force something from chapter 9 on the iron/clay. The abomination the NT references to Daniel's prophecies is not from chapter 9 it is from chapter 11. That is the same time-frame Revelation gives 42 months to. They put a throne in a temple they erect and then they demand to be worshiped as being God.

Da.11:31
And arms shall stand on his part,
and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength,
and shall take away the daily sacrifice,
and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.


Psalm 149:9 says this:

"To execute upon them the judgment written"

This means that it is all foretold in Holy Scripture.

The full end is the total destruction of the power of those who destroyed truth on earth. It does not take place in the time period of the seventh trumpet, but without doubt in the beginning of the time period of the sixth trumpet. Read Rev 9:13-15 and compare it with the sixth seal in Rev 7:12-16, which describes the same time with different words.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1197136

Revelation was written as prophecy, it covers what Daniel calls the iron/clay kingdom.

As for wisdom to understand the contents of the book of Revelation, there was found nobody worthy of opening that book, except the Lamb himself through his BRANCH. Read Rev 5:3 and be convinced that I tell you the truth!

 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1197136

The seals of Revelation are the same as the metal statue in Daniel, it asts as a guide to what the rest of the book will cover. The words were not hidden, they were recorded. The names in the book of life as to who will be alive at the end of the day Christ arrives is hidden until that day, just as Re.10 says it will be.
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Do you believe this or not? I tell you that everybody who rejects my testimony is very much to be pitied!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah



And there you go again...you do not sound humble.

Did John and Island of patmos say it was his message?...did any of the prophets speak as you do and say "if you reject MY testimony is very much to be pitied!"



How can you be a witness if you do not even know who the false moshiac (the beast is?)


who is the beast and false prophet of revelation 13?


Hello,

Did you ever think that Paul the apostle was a proud person, lacking in humility, saying the following?:

"(...) in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men, according to MY gospel, by Jesus Christ. (Rom 2:16 ASV)

You say this to me:

"How can you be a witness if you do not even know who the false moshiac (the beast is?)"

My answer:
Who told you what I do not know? When you say that I do not even know who the beast is, you imply that the beast is a person. That is totally wrong.

You will never ever be able to prove from Holy Scripture that the beast that came out of the sea in Rev 13 is a person!!! Okay, catch me if you can by proving what you imply!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah



The burdon of proof is on you because I can show by scripture the beast of revelation 13 and its false prophet...


I dont' talk of generalizations and 'god wants you to repent" and "do good" and "love jesus"


I'm telling the world that the queen of heaven..asherah who laid a heavy yoke on Israel and Judah is returning in the flesh to make war with YAH's holy people in the end.....


This is the unfinished business of the battle of mt. Carmel for it was Eliyahu who battled the prophets of "The Lord" and "Asherah"

and had to flee from the pursuit of Jezebel....

its not over!

Revelation 2
20Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

22Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.



This is the TRUE MESSAGE OF THE TWO WITNESSES...


The queen of heaven is coming for us all!!!


:ABM:
 Quoting: YAH Stone Massive!



Hello,

Do not be stupid. I put you a question as to whether the beast is a man as you imply, so you who claim so has got the burden of proof. Are you timid?

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In the dream I just had, I was told to find a website called Godlike. I have never before heard of, nor have I ever visited this place. I must apologize in advance if I offend anyone, I don't even know the rules for posting here. I am not even sure if this message will make it to anyone.

So as I was saying, in this dream I was told to find the website Godlike. I google it and this is the first one that comes up, I can only assume this was the intended site, although it seems a little "out there" for my tastes. I'm just following what I was told in the dream.

I was told to find this website (the one referred to as Godlike) and post that the two witnesses? ( a term I am not really familiar with ) are alive here and now, and they are visiting the same website I was referred to. So that is what I am doing. I was supposed to come here and say something along the lines of "The witnesses have arrived, They do not yet know who they are, or that they are the witnesses. They visit the site Godlike."

It was a very powerful dream, so I can only hope this has some meaning to someone out there in internet land.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Rual G.
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Would it be likely that a forum message board prompt after a dream instruction would be all it takes to let these 2 know what apparently they don't know already? Is your work done?
I wouldn't rule out their use of the internet being possible as part of that mission though.. So who knows.. time will tell
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Please let me comment you on several points and correct you as well. It is all done to help you.
Fair enough.


I think part of your problem has got to do with your thoughts about the end and Dan 9:27. I will quote it below and give you my comments:

"And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate. (Dan 9:1 ASV)

My comment:
The one who will make a firm covenant with many for a week is Jesus Christ. Nobody else can make a firm covenant except Him.
The passage starts off with God being the keeper of covenants, how did you manage to change it in just a few verses? In the garden on the night of His arrest Jesus confirmed with God that the cross was His will. Abomination(s) would not just be Stephen's murder it would include the tables of the money-changers that would have been operating again after the cross. Blood sacrifices were to stop after the cross. The 'full end' is still in our future, Daniel 11 is still all future and the 7th trump of Revelation is not until the end of that chapter.


Da.9:4
And I prayed unto the LORD my God,
and made my confession,
and said,
O Lord,
the great and dreadful God,
keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him,
and to them that keep his commandments;

God also happens to be the rider in the 1st seal in Revelation.


The week mentioned here is the last year-week of the 70 "weeks" in Dan 9:24. This last year-week started in 29 CE and ended in 36 CE. When Jesus died in the midst of this last week, namely in 33 CE, He caused sacrifice and the oblation to cease, thenceforth His redemptive death was the only means to blot out our sins.

The 2nd half of that week also played out, it is part of the brass as described in chapter 8. During the brass the 'time of the Gentiles' was established. That same 'period of time' exists until His return at the sound of the 7th trump.


The one that comes upon the wing of abomination and makes desolate, is, in spiritual sense, the Antichrist. He should succeed in his war on the saints, as seen in Rev 13, and gain total victory. In that way the whole true apostolic church was made desolate. Read 1 Cor 3:17, and you see what is determined to happen to anybody who destroys God's spiritual temple.
The Saints during that 42 months is just the two witnesses, all the armies of men will align themselves with the Beast from the Pit. The 4 fallen angels of the 6th trump kill several billion people in 1110 days, Satan would gladly sacrifice some of the clay armies if it helped his deception appear more real. Daniel 11 gives up their whole battle plan for the time and the area.

You are trying to force something from chapter 9 on the iron/clay. The abomination the NT references to Daniel's prophecies is not from chapter 9 it is from chapter 11. That is the same time-frame Revelation gives 42 months to. They put a throne in a temple they erect and then they demand to be worshiped as being God.

Da.11:31
And arms shall stand on his part,
and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength,
and shall take away the daily sacrifice,
and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.



Psalm 149:9 says this:

"To execute upon them the judgment written"

This means that it is all foretold in Holy Scripture.

The full end is the total destruction of the power of those who destroyed truth on earth. It does not take place in the time period of the seventh trumpet, but without doubt in the beginning of the time period of the sixth trumpet. Read Rev 9:13-15 and compare it with the sixth seal in Rev 7:12-16, which describes the same time with different words.
Revelation was written as prophecy, it covers what Daniel calls the iron/clay kingdom.


As for wisdom to understand the contents of the book of Revelation, there was found nobody worthy of opening that book, except the Lamb himself through his BRANCH. Read Rev 5:3 and be convinced that I tell you the truth!


The seals of Revelation are the same as the metal statue in Daniel, it asts as a guide to what the rest of the book will cover. The words were not hidden, they were recorded. The names in the book of life as to who will be alive at the end of the day Christ arrives is hidden until that day, just as Re.10 says it will be.
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Hello,

Do not be stupid. I put you a question as to whether the beast is a man as you imply, so you who claim so has got the burden of proof. Are you timid?

Greetings from
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Now you know who the beast is. I have just shown you to what is coming.

Those who commit fornication and prophesy by baali will partake in the portion that has been prepared for her.

See to it that you are not one of these.


Isaiah 47

5Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called, The lady of kingdoms.

6I was wroth with my people, I have polluted mine inheritance, and given them into thine hand: thou didst shew them no mercy; upon the ancient hast thou very heavily laid thy yoke.

7And thou saidst, I shall be a lady for ever: so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart, neither didst remember the latter end of it.

8Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children:

9But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.


She is coming ...soon....

Do not take her mark...
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Please let me comment you on several points and correct you as well. It is all done to help you.
Fair enough.


I think part of your problem has got to do with your thoughts about the end and Dan 9:27. I will quote it below and give you my comments:

"And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease; and upon the wing of abominations shall come one that maketh desolate; and even unto the full end, and that determined, shall wrath be poured out upon the desolate. (Dan 9:1 ASV)

My comment:
The one who will make a firm covenant with many for a week is Jesus Christ. Nobody else can make a firm covenant except Him.
The passage starts off with God being the keeper of covenants, how did you manage to change it in just a few verses? In the garden on the night of His arrest Jesus confirmed with God that the cross was His will. Abomination(s) would not just be Stephen's murder it would include the tables of the money-changers that would have been operating again after the cross. Blood sacrifices were to stop after the cross. The 'full end' is still in our future, Daniel 11 is still all future and the 7th trump of Revelation is not until the end of that chapter.


Da.9:4
And I prayed unto the LORD my God,
and made my confession,
and said,
O Lord,
the great and dreadful God,
keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him,
and to them that keep his commandments;

God also happens to be the rider in the 1st seal in Revelation.


The week mentioned here is the last year-week of the 70 "weeks" in Dan 9:24. This last year-week started in 29 CE and ended in 36 CE. When Jesus died in the midst of this last week, namely in 33 CE, He caused sacrifice and the oblation to cease, thenceforth His redemptive death was the only means to blot out our sins.

The 2nd half of that week also played out, it is part of the brass as described in chapter 8. During the brass the 'time of the Gentiles' was established. That same 'period of time' exists until His return at the sound of the 7th trump.


The one that comes upon the wing of abomination and makes desolate, is, in spiritual sense, the Antichrist. He should succeed in his war on the saints, as seen in Rev 13, and gain total victory. In that way the whole true apostolic church was made desolate. Read 1 Cor 3:17, and you see what is determined to happen to anybody who destroys God's spiritual temple.
The Saints during that 42 months is just the two witnesses, all the armies of men will align themselves with the Beast from the Pit. The 4 fallen angels of the 6th trump kill several billion people in 1110 days, Satan would gladly sacrifice some of the clay armies if it helped his deception appear more real. Daniel 11 gives up their whole battle plan for the time and the area.

You are trying to force something from chapter 9 on the iron/clay. The abomination the NT references to Daniel's prophecies is not from chapter 9 it is from chapter 11. That is the same time-frame Revelation gives 42 months to. They put a throne in a temple they erect and then they demand to be worshiped as being God.

Da.11:31
And arms shall stand on his part,
and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength,
and shall take away the daily sacrifice,
and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.



Psalm 149:9 says this:

"To execute upon them the judgment written"

This means that it is all foretold in Holy Scripture.

The full end is the total destruction of the power of those who destroyed truth on earth. It does not take place in the time period of the seventh trumpet, but without doubt in the beginning of the time period of the sixth trumpet. Read Rev 9:13-15 and compare it with the sixth seal in Rev 7:12-16, which describes the same time with different words.
Revelation was written as prophecy, it covers what Daniel calls the iron/clay kingdom.


As for wisdom to understand the contents of the book of Revelation, there was found nobody worthy of opening that book, except the Lamb himself through his BRANCH. Read Rev 5:3 and be convinced that I tell you the truth!


The seals of Revelation are the same as the metal statue in Daniel, it asts as a guide to what the rest of the book will cover. The words were not hidden, they were recorded. The names in the book of life as to who will be alive at the end of the day Christ arrives is hidden until that day, just as Re.10 says it will be.
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Wow,

You really surprises me with your spirit of conviction!

Before I go into details about what you write may I ask you to tell me what time periods the Holy Scripture sets before you and me as the frames of understanding prophecy from the time of Christ unto the end? I think you are totally ignorant about that important "detail"! Am I wrong?

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1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Hello,

Do not be stupid. I put you a question as to whether the beast is a man as you imply, so you who claim so has got the burden of proof. Are you timid?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah



PerJeshuah you are not "the witness"

and surely I am not your subject so your self righteous tone will not be validated.

your mouth boasts and will not stop...you are quick to curse and salivate to be validated ..

you words are inert and speak in generalizations...

but never do you WARN THE SAINTS ABOUT WHAT IS COMING


because it is more important to EXALT YOURSELF



Now you know who the beast is. I have just shown you to what is coming.

Who has said this? Who has declared such things?


Those who commit fornication and prophesy by baali will partake in the portion that has been prepared for her.

See to it that you are not one of these.


Isaiah 47

5Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called, The lady of kingdoms.

6I was wroth with my people, I have polluted mine inheritance, and given them into thine hand: thou didst shew them no mercy; upon the ancient hast thou very heavily laid thy yoke.

7And thou saidst, I shall be a lady for ever: so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart, neither didst remember the latter end of it.

8Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children:

9But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.


She is coming ...soon....

Do not take her mark...

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1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Hello,

Do not be stupid. I put you a question as to whether the beast is a man as you imply, so you who claim so has got the burden of proof. Are you timid?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah


Now you know who the beast is. I have just shown you to what is coming.

Those who commit fornication and prophesy by baali will partake in the portion that has been prepared for her.

See to it that you are not one of these.


Isaiah 47

5Sit thou silent, and get thee into darkness, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called, The lady of kingdoms.

6I was wroth with my people, I have polluted mine inheritance, and given them into thine hand: thou didst shew them no mercy; upon the ancient hast thou very heavily laid thy yoke.

7And thou saidst, I shall be a lady for ever: so that thou didst not lay these things to thy heart, neither didst remember the latter end of it.

8Therefore hear now this, thou that art given to pleasures, that dwellest carelessly, that sayest in thine heart, I am, and none else beside me; I shall not sit as a widow, neither shall I know the loss of children:

9But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.


She is coming ...soon....

Do not take her mark...
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Hello YAH Stone Massive!,

No, you have not shown me who (as you erroneously believe) the beast is! Will you repeat it here in case I overlooked your explanation?

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Revelation 13 Clearly states before the beast is able to walk that:

1) It is an image
2) It has sword wounds on it....


Revelation 13

14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.



So I ask where in the all of creation is there an image with sword wounds on it...


and furthermore does this image demand veneration?


here it is...again...




ABM
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First, the two witnesses do not start to witness in the time of the third woe but in the time of the second woe. The third woe and the seventh trumpet relate to the same time period. Read Rev Rev 9:13-14 and compare with Rev 11:14-15 to be convinced of me telling you the truth!
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I agree that the sound of the 7th trump is the sound that divides the end of the 2nd woe and the beginning of the 3rd woe on the inhabitants of the earth. Specifically the sinners worldwide will all die on that very same day. The 7 vials are the details of how that event unfolds.

Re.18:8
Therefore shall her plagues come in one day,
death,
and mourning,
and famine;
and she shall be utterly burned with fire:
for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.


Second, the true two witnesses are not in historical Jerusalem but in spiritual Jerusalem.
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Not according to the verse below. Christians pray and those prayers end up on the same alter that is mentioned in Re.4 & 5. That is the temple being measured at the very start of Re.11. People who pray are how they get counted.

Re.11:7
And when they shall have finished their testimony,
the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them,
and shall overcome them,
and kill them.
Re.11:8
And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city,
which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt,
where also our Lord was crucified.

The reason is that the time period of the sixth trumpet is still the time period of the Gentiles.
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Yes it is, the two witness will not allow a temple to be build and that means no throne during their time. After that there is a window of 3 1/2 days to build a tent and have a throne installed. After the two witnesses are resurrected nobody will be worshiping a false God.

The Jews man children were circumcised on the eighth day, which symbolizes the 8th thousand-year period. We are now living in the seventh thousand-year period (1260 years), thus before the midst of the NT time, with still another 1260 years to come, which is the great time period of the Jews.
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If you want to add the day is a 1,000 years and 1,000 years is like a day we can sit here for another 3.6 billion years before things are finally 'over'. I don't see that as being the message the Bible is giving us.

Listen, God will not kill all sinners in the beginning of the sixth trumpet's time, but "only 2/3" to take back His rule.
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It is 4 fallen angels who kill 1/3 of manking during that 2nd woe. The vials are the 3rd woe and 2/3 of all of men living will die in that day.

The 3,5 year period of the two witnesses has not yet started, but the witnesses are already around if not as prophets.
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All prophecy has been written, the only thing that need to be done before the trumps can start is the sealing of the ones who will be protected by the earth itself.

The beast rules through the third, fourth, and fifth seal's period of time. At the end of the fifth trumpet's time comes the man child.
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The Beast from the Pit isn't released before the 5th trump sounds. That is the 1st woe and it lasts 5 months (150 days), the 2nd woe follows and it takes up the remaining time, 1110 days.

The two witnesses will not be resurrected bodily until the very last day, as Jesus himself tells us. Believe it!
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The very last day is Judgmenbt Day. The ones kept alive on the day of His return will be 1,000 years old before Judgment Day unfolds. BTW it is when the ones killed will be brought back to life and welcomed into the Kingdom of God.

These were my comments. What I tell you cannot be refuted with Holy Scripture, so please take care and study honestly what I tell you! If you think I lack humility then read Luke 4:32, for the true doctrine of Jesus Christ has imbued me.
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Are you claiming to be Christ?
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Revelation 13 Clearly states before the beast is able to walk that:
1) It is an image
2) It has sword wounds on it....

Revelation 13

14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

So I ask where in the all of creation is there an image with sword wounds on it...
and furthermore does this image demand veneration?
here it is...again...
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That fallen angel was on the earth before the flood. Being put into the pit was how he got that head wound.
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But lets talk about the one WHO HAS THE POWER TO GIVE LIFE UNTO THE IMAGE.


Revelation 13

11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.



Now in order to have the image with the sword wounds

we must have:

1) Has the same power as the first beast
2) Decieves the world by miracles
3) Makes fire come down to earth in view of men
4) Is relative to an image with sword wounds...



Who has made fire come down from heaven? Who commits great miracles, signs and wonders.

Who is connected to AN IMAGE WITH A SWORD WOUND

1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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Dear website masters,

I hope you will make it possible for us who write here to correct writings errors that we see after publishing. It is kind of frustrating to find out that writing mistakes crept into our text without our noticing at the moment of publishing.

I hope you will give us the possibility of at least one possibility of putting it right! I write under time pressure, so therefore writing mistakes easily creep into my texts. Besides, English is not my first language but my third language which I put much effort into learning. Still I know just a wee bit of your language so rich for words.

Thank you!

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Revelation 13 Clearly states before the beast is able to walk that:
1) It is an image
2) It has sword wounds on it....

Revelation 13

14And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

So I ask where in the all of creation is there an image with sword wounds on it...
and furthermore does this image demand veneration?
here it is...again...

That fallen angel was on the earth before the flood. Being put into the pit was how he got that head wound.
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Is that in scripture or your imagination?

I am showing you the image with the sword wound as predicted 1900+ years ago...

where does it say that the angel got his head wound by being in a pit?
1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”
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If you don't agree with what I say..that is fine...

but you'll remember me when it happens


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1Ki 19:4 But he himself went a day’s journey into the wilderness, and came and sat down under a broom tree, and prayed that he might die, and said, “It is enough! Now, YAHUWAH, take my life, for I am no better than my fathers!”





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