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I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

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I thought Rual was the one claiming to be one of the 2 witnesses.
Now its others.
You guys all battling for the position.
In the end, it will be the 2 that God Himself will reveal for His own purposes in the name of the Messiah Yeshua.

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You tal MUD munchers could not lie straight in bed, born of the father of liars, satan.


These are Ranl's words, you worshiper in the sinagog of satan,,

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In the dream I just had, I was told to find a website called Godlike. I have never before heard of, nor have I ever visited this place. I must apologize in advance if I offend anyone, I don't even know the rules for posting here. I am not even sure if this message will make it to anyone.

So as I was saying, in this dream I was told to find the website Godlike. I google it and this is the first one that comes up, I can only assume this was the intended site, although it seems a little "out there" for my tastes. I'm just following what I was told in the dream.

I was told to find this website (the one referred to as Godlike) and post that the two witnesses? ( a term I am not really familiar with ) are alive here and now, and they are visiting the same website I was referred to. So that is what I am doing. I was supposed to come here and say something along the lines of "The witnesses have arrived, They do not yet know who they are, or that they are the witnesses. They visit the site Godlike."

It was a very powerful dream, so I can only hope this has some meaning to someone out there in internet land.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Rual G.
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Hello PehJeshuah,

Who or what are you a witness of?

If you ask me, the Spirit being displayed here is not of Love, Peace/Jesus Christ.

Mathew 7:20

“Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.”

By their works will you know them


I see a lot of rudeness, anger, name calling, accusing, judging and pride.

Here are merely a few comments that you've made, if I went back more than a few pages I could fill an entire document full of them.

I post this with the best intentions hoping that you will take a good look in the mirror and realize how you are coming off and sounding to others.

So you stupid fellow,

Why are you so stupid, so arrogant

you son of Satan

Go to your doctor and take your medicine!

You are a liar and a stupid devil!

Poor ass, I will scorch you to the Devil where you belong!

You are just a stupid bigmouth,


Doesn't sound like the Spirit of Love and Peace to me.

Mathew 7:2

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.


I hope you recognize what you are doing here.

May the true spirit of Love, Peace/Jesus Christ be with you always.

Sincerely with best intentions,

Thread: Let the Truth be Told in a World full of Lies (Page 4)
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Hello PehJeshuah,

Who or what are you a witness of?

If you ask me, the Spirit being displayed here is not of Love, Peace/Jesus Christ.

Mathew 7:20

“Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.”

By their works will you know them


I see a lot of rudeness, anger, name calling, accusing, judging and pride.

Here are merely a few comments that you've made, if I went back more than a few pages I could fill an entire document full of them.

I post this with the best intentions hoping that you will take a good look in the mirror and realize how you are coming off and sounding to others.

So you stupid fellow,

Why are you so stupid, so arrogant

you son of Satan

Go to your doctor and take your medicine!

You are a liar and a stupid devil!

Poor ass, I will scorch you to the Devil where you belong!

You are just a stupid bigmouth,


Doesn't sound like the Spirit of Love and Peace to me.

Mathew 7:2

For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.


I hope you recognize what you are doing here.

May the true spirit of Love, Peace/Jesus Christ be with you always.

Sincerely with best intentions,

Thread: Let the Truth be Told in a World full of Lies (Page 4)
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Hello,

Read first what these people wrote and said. I gave them answers from Scripture showing that they twist Holy Scripture, the very worst thing a person can do! Still they go on as though they have done no mischief.

And such twistings the followers of the beast have practised for too long! Therefore they will be accused for what they are!

I always talk friendly to people who themselves are serious and keep themselves to what the Bible teaches, and who do not promote mere fantasies and babblings to lead people astray. You also ought to know that the old testament messengers of God used very harsh words against those who corrupted people.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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Dear you,

This story or dream is just a devilish lie, having nothing whatsoever to do with Holy Scripture.


-

Not a story, nor a dream, a vision. I saw it whilst i was wide awake in the middle of the day.


---------------------------------------------



First of all, the seven angels of Rev are not the seven spirits of God,


--------


I am well aware of this FACT. My interpretation of the vision is that what i saw were God's 7 Spirits. i am only a witness, i do have full understanding. Jesus only wanted me to post about what i had seen, NOT to interpret it. My interpretation of who the 7 Spirits represent are my thoughts only. 14 days after this vision, Jesus opened the 1st seal on the 11th of December, 2001. 14 days later, commencing on the 25th of December,2001, Sydney began to burn. It burnt for exatly 14 days. Elijah had been witholding the rain from around the 19th of December,1999, after the completeion of God's 7 years of Judgment, which commenced at 0747, on the 7th of December, 1992.


----------------------------------------


and before anyone can speak of the two witnesses as such, claiming to be one of them, he (or she) must be able to show in what relation he and his fellow witness stand to the man child, who is the angel of the seven seals of Revelation.


----------

Not so. Jesus was with me at this time. Jesus personally opened the seals. Every one up until the sixth. Man child? Only one was found worthy to open the seals, and that was Jesus.


-------------------------------------



There is a lot more to it that will debunk any false witness who dare step forward as one of the two witnesses, or any two persons who dare claim to be the two witnesses without being so. The war in heaven will be too fierce for such impostors to stand the heat.


--------------


You would not know God's witness if he was responding to you, obviously.


God's witness of Revelation. I come in the power and Spirit of Elijah.



Dear you,

You are no witness since you don't know Scripture and therefore contradict the word of God. Jesus does not open the 7 seals in Revelation, for it is said in the book that NOBODY WAS FOUND WORTHY TO DO IT, NOT IN HEAVEN, NOT ON EARTH, AND NOT UNDER THE EARTH.

So you have got a problem there, since Jesus is in HEAVEN. And if you set about expounding these things you will only end up enmeshed in your own contradictions.

Greetings,
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 730552


I went back to see if Peh ever called himself a prophet and found something even more interesting.

No one - who believes - can discount that Jesus was the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world, right?

Well, the one who is found worthy to open the book is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, it is he that brought reconciliation, it is he that opens the seven seals.

Peh, you set yourself as the great teacher of scripture sent by God but you make a huge error here my friend.

Jesus is the one found worthy to open the seals.

And, for what it's worth no man will know what the testimony of the two witnesses is for they will reveal that which has not been written... the seven thunders!
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Dear you,

This story or dream is just a devilish lie, having nothing whatsoever to do with Holy Scripture.


-

Not a story, nor a dream, a vision. I saw it whilst i was wide awake in the middle of the day.


---------------------------------------------



First of all, the seven angels of Rev are not the seven spirits of God,


--------


I am well aware of this FACT. My interpretation of the vision is that what i saw were God's 7 Spirits. i am only a witness, i do have full understanding. Jesus only wanted me to post about what i had seen, NOT to interpret it. My interpretation of who the 7 Spirits represent are my thoughts only. 14 days after this vision, Jesus opened the 1st seal on the 11th of December, 2001. 14 days later, commencing on the 25th of December,2001, Sydney began to burn. It burnt for exatly 14 days. Elijah had been witholding the rain from around the 19th of December,1999, after the completeion of God's 7 years of Judgment, which commenced at 0747, on the 7th of December, 1992.


----------------------------------------


and before anyone can speak of the two witnesses as such, claiming to be one of them, he (or she) must be able to show in what relation he and his fellow witness stand to the man child, who is the angel of the seven seals of Revelation.


----------

Not so. Jesus was with me at this time. Jesus personally opened the seals. Every one up until the sixth. Man child? Only one was found worthy to open the seals, and that was Jesus.


-------------------------------------



There is a lot more to it that will debunk any false witness who dare step forward as one of the two witnesses, or any two persons who dare claim to be the two witnesses without being so. The war in heaven will be too fierce for such impostors to stand the heat.


--------------


You would not know God's witness if he was responding to you, obviously.


God's witness of Revelation. I come in the power and Spirit of Elijah.



Dear you,

You are no witness since you don't know Scripture and therefore contradict the word of God. Jesus does not open the 7 seals in Revelation, for it is said in the book that NOBODY WAS FOUND WORTHY TO DO IT, NOT IN HEAVEN, NOT ON EARTH, AND NOT UNDER THE EARTH.

So you have got a problem there, since Jesus is in HEAVEN. And if you set about expounding these things you will only end up enmeshed in your own contradictions.

Greetings,
PehJeshuah


I went back to see if Peh ever called himself a prophet and found something even more interesting.

No one - who believes - can discount that Jesus was the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world, right?

Well, the one who is found worthy to open the book is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, it is he that brought reconciliation, it is he that opens the seven seals.

Peh, you set yourself as the great teacher of scripture sent by God but you make a huge error here my friend.

Jesus is the one found worthy to open the seals.

And, for what it's worth no man will know what the testimony of the two witnesses is for they will reveal that which has not been written... the seven thunders!
 Quoting: Aman

Nice . +1
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Dear you,

This story or dream is just a devilish lie, having nothing whatsoever to do with Holy Scripture.


-

Not a story, nor a dream, a vision. I saw it whilst i was wide awake in the middle of the day.


---------------------------------------------



First of all, the seven angels of Rev are not the seven spirits of God,


--------


I am well aware of this FACT. My interpretation of the vision is that what i saw were God's 7 Spirits. i am only a witness, i do have full understanding. Jesus only wanted me to post about what i had seen, NOT to interpret it. My interpretation of who the 7 Spirits represent are my thoughts only. 14 days after this vision, Jesus opened the 1st seal on the 11th of December, 2001. 14 days later, commencing on the 25th of December,2001, Sydney began to burn. It burnt for exatly 14 days. Elijah had been witholding the rain from around the 19th of December,1999, after the completeion of God's 7 years of Judgment, which commenced at 0747, on the 7th of December, 1992.


----------------------------------------


and before anyone can speak of the two witnesses as such, claiming to be one of them, he (or she) must be able to show in what relation he and his fellow witness stand to the man child, who is the angel of the seven seals of Revelation.


----------

Not so. Jesus was with me at this time. Jesus personally opened the seals. Every one up until the sixth. Man child? Only one was found worthy to open the seals, and that was Jesus.


-------------------------------------



There is a lot more to it that will debunk any false witness who dare step forward as one of the two witnesses, or any two persons who dare claim to be the two witnesses without being so. The war in heaven will be too fierce for such impostors to stand the heat.


--------------


You would not know God's witness if he was responding to you, obviously.


God's witness of Revelation. I come in the power and Spirit of Elijah.



Dear you,

You are no witness since you don't know Scripture and therefore contradict the word of God. Jesus does not open the 7 seals in Revelation, for it is said in the book that NOBODY WAS FOUND WORTHY TO DO IT, NOT IN HEAVEN, NOT ON EARTH, AND NOT UNDER THE EARTH.

So you have got a problem there, since Jesus is in HEAVEN. And if you set about expounding these things you will only end up enmeshed in your own contradictions.

Greetings,
PehJeshuah


I went back to see if Peh ever called himself a prophet and found something even more interesting.

No one - who believes - can discount that Jesus was the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world, right?

Well, the one who is found worthy to open the book is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, it is he that brought reconciliation, it is he that opens the seven seals.

Peh, you set yourself as the great teacher of scripture sent by God but you make a huge error here my friend.

Jesus is the one found worthy to open the seals.

And, for what it's worth no man will know what the testimony of the two witnesses is for they will reveal that which has not been written... the seven thunders!
 Quoting: Aman


Hello,

What is your problem?

Do you not realize what is indeed said about the opening of the seals, namely that nobody on earth, under the earth, or IN HEAVEN was found worthy to open the seals!

So, will you please explain why the Lamb could open the seals in spite of being in heaven!

This is your problem, for you must claim either (1) that the Lamb was not in heaven, or (2) that the heaven is not God's invisible heaven. No matter what your answer is, you will get into trouble and be forced to admit things you would hate to accept as biblically true.

But look, for the witnesses of God this text (not something unwritten) will be revealed by the two witnesses, whereas you will be stuck for a good explanation.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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In the dream I just had, I was told to find a website called Godlike. I have never before heard of, nor have I ever visited this place. I must apologize in advance if I offend anyone, I don't even know the rules for posting here. I am not even sure if this message will make it to anyone.

So as I was saying, in this dream I was told to find the website Godlike. I google it and this is the first one that comes up, I can only assume this was the intended site, although it seems a little "out there" for my tastes. I'm just following what I was told in the dream.

I was told to find this website (the one referred to as Godlike) and post that the two witnesses? ( a term I am not really familiar with ) are alive here and now, and they are visiting the same website I was referred to. So that is what I am doing. I was supposed to come here and say something along the lines of "The witnesses have arrived, They do not yet know who they are, or that they are the witnesses. They visit the site Godlike."

It was a very powerful dream, so I can only hope this has some meaning to someone out there in internet land.

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,

Rual G.
 Quoting: Rual G. 124430

I am here now.
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Has the OP posted on this thread recently?


Dear Americans,

You are eager in your belief in God, but you are oblivious of the enemy lying at your bosom. Prophecy foretells that the two witnesses will come to you, so how will you respond to their testimony. America, America, I want to warn you and gather you under my wings, but you are proud and building your fortresses in mountains without realizing that the greatest fortress is God Almighty.

Therefore America, I will shout to you, and my numbered ones will hear my voice and repent, but you blind will proceed in your iniquity until it is too late.

America, so high I let you be, but, alas, how low do you want to be? Put your trust wholly in the Lord, not in devious ways, let your kindheartedness hover like an eagle, and I will be your Lord. Listen to the wing flaps of charity, of brotherly conversation, and not to the voice of bossing. You will not be blessed anymore if you go on like the king among nations. No, but if you stretch out your arm and hand to your brother and sister in serious interhuman love, then you can be important in the development that stops every economical and political exploitation of poor people and those who shout to me, the Lord. Listen America, I give you just a few more years to better your ways. If you reject my warning you shall surely die a painful death. The Lord has spoken through his mouth of

PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1162083


I went looking to vindicate Peh in that I did not believe he ever called himself a prophet... but I was mistaken, he did.

The whole thing written above is apparently a word from teh Lord himself and is ended with...

The Lord has spoken through his mouth of

PehJeshuah.

Man that is nothing less than claiming to be a prophet without so much as saying so.

Peh, you do claim to be a prophet so quit hiding and just state the obvious.
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Dear you,

This story or dream is just a devilish lie, having nothing whatsoever to do with Holy Scripture.


-

Not a story, nor a dream, a vision. I saw it whilst i was wide awake in the middle of the day.


---------------------------------------------



First of all, the seven angels of Rev are not the seven spirits of God,


--------


I am well aware of this FACT. My interpretation of the vision is that what i saw were God's 7 Spirits. i am only a witness, i do have full understanding. Jesus only wanted me to post about what i had seen, NOT to interpret it. My interpretation of who the 7 Spirits represent are my thoughts only. 14 days after this vision, Jesus opened the 1st seal on the 11th of December, 2001. 14 days later, commencing on the 25th of December,2001, Sydney began to burn. It burnt for exatly 14 days. Elijah had been witholding the rain from around the 19th of December,1999, after the completeion of God's 7 years of Judgment, which commenced at 0747, on the 7th of December, 1992.


----------------------------------------


and before anyone can speak of the two witnesses as such, claiming to be one of them, he (or she) must be able to show in what relation he and his fellow witness stand to the man child, who is the angel of the seven seals of Revelation.


----------

Not so. Jesus was with me at this time. Jesus personally opened the seals. Every one up until the sixth. Man child? Only one was found worthy to open the seals, and that was Jesus.


-------------------------------------



There is a lot more to it that will debunk any false witness who dare step forward as one of the two witnesses, or any two persons who dare claim to be the two witnesses without being so. The war in heaven will be too fierce for such impostors to stand the heat.


--------------


You would not know God's witness if he was responding to you, obviously.


God's witness of Revelation. I come in the power and Spirit of Elijah.



Dear you,

You are no witness since you don't know Scripture and therefore contradict the word of God. Jesus does not open the 7 seals in Revelation, for it is said in the book that NOBODY WAS FOUND WORTHY TO DO IT, NOT IN HEAVEN, NOT ON EARTH, AND NOT UNDER THE EARTH.

So you have got a problem there, since Jesus is in HEAVEN. And if you set about expounding these things you will only end up enmeshed in your own contradictions.

Greetings,
PehJeshuah


I went back to see if Peh ever called himself a prophet and found something even more interesting.

No one - who believes - can discount that Jesus was the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world, right?

Well, the one who is found worthy to open the book is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, it is he that brought reconciliation, it is he that opens the seven seals.

Peh, you set yourself as the great teacher of scripture sent by God but you make a huge error here my friend.

Jesus is the one found worthy to open the seals.

And, for what it's worth no man will know what the testimony of the two witnesses is for they will reveal that which has not been written... the seven thunders!


Hello,

What is your problem?

Do you not realize what is indeed said about the opening of the seals, namely that nobody on earth, under the earth, or IN HEAVEN was found worthy to open the seals!

So, will you please explain why the Lamb could open the seals in spite of being in heaven!

This is your problem, for you must claim either (1) that the Lamb was not in heaven, or (2) that the heaven is not God's invisible heaven. No matter what your answer is, you will get into trouble and be forced to admit things you would hate to accept as biblically true.

But look, for the witnesses of God this text (not something unwritten) will be revealed by the two witnesses, whereas you will be stuck for a good explanation.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1207453

You are the real one who is twisting Scripture to suit your agenda . You take things out of context and stop putting up single verses without the rest of the chapter . I know your game .
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Has the OP posted on this thread recently?


Dear Americans,

You are eager in your belief in God, but you are oblivious of the enemy lying at your bosom. Prophecy foretells that the two witnesses will come to you, so how will you respond to their testimony. America, America, I want to warn you and gather you under my wings, but you are proud and building your fortresses in mountains without realizing that the greatest fortress is God Almighty.

Therefore America, I will shout to you, and my numbered ones will hear my voice and repent, but you blind will proceed in your iniquity until it is too late.

America, so high I let you be, but, alas, how low do you want to be? Put your trust wholly in the Lord, not in devious ways, let your kindheartedness hover like an eagle, and I will be your Lord. Listen to the wing flaps of charity, of brotherly conversation, and not to the voice of bossing. You will not be blessed anymore if you go on like the king among nations. No, but if you stretch out your arm and hand to your brother and sister in serious interhuman love, then you can be important in the development that stops every economical and political exploitation of poor people and those who shout to me, the Lord. Listen America, I give you just a few more years to better your ways. If you reject my warning you shall surely die a painful death. The Lord has spoken through his mouth of

PehJeshuah


I went looking to vindicate Peh in that I did not believe he ever called himself a prophet... but I was mistaken, he did.

The whole thing written above is apparently a word from teh Lord himself and is ended with...

The Lord has spoken through his mouth of

PehJeshuah.

Man that is nothing less than claiming to be a prophet without so much as saying so.

Peh, you do claim to be a prophet so quit hiding and just state the obvious.
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Nice , We busted Him again . Nothing but a glory-hunter fraud .
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How can one know if they are one of the witnesses?
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well,.. i don't know who they are but i do know they will be person we call African American or Black..

i'm sure of this..
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Dear you,

This story or dream is just a devilish lie, having nothing whatsoever to do with Holy Scripture.


-

Not a story, nor a dream, a vision. I saw it whilst i was wide awake in the middle of the day.


---------------------------------------------



First of all, the seven angels of Rev are not the seven spirits of God,


--------


I am well aware of this FACT. My interpretation of the vision is that what i saw were God's 7 Spirits. i am only a witness, i do have full understanding. Jesus only wanted me to post about what i had seen, NOT to interpret it. My interpretation of who the 7 Spirits represent are my thoughts only. 14 days after this vision, Jesus opened the 1st seal on the 11th of December, 2001. 14 days later, commencing on the 25th of December,2001, Sydney began to burn. It burnt for exatly 14 days. Elijah had been witholding the rain from around the 19th of December,1999, after the completeion of God's 7 years of Judgment, which commenced at 0747, on the 7th of December, 1992.


----------------------------------------


and before anyone can speak of the two witnesses as such, claiming to be one of them, he (or she) must be able to show in what relation he and his fellow witness stand to the man child, who is the angel of the seven seals of Revelation.


----------

Not so. Jesus was with me at this time. Jesus personally opened the seals. Every one up until the sixth. Man child? Only one was found worthy to open the seals, and that was Jesus.


-------------------------------------



There is a lot more to it that will debunk any false witness who dare step forward as one of the two witnesses, or any two persons who dare claim to be the two witnesses without being so. The war in heaven will be too fierce for such impostors to stand the heat.


--------------


You would not know God's witness if he was responding to you, obviously.


God's witness of Revelation. I come in the power and Spirit of Elijah.



Dear you,

You are no witness since you don't know Scripture and therefore contradict the word of God. Jesus does not open the 7 seals in Revelation, for it is said in the book that NOBODY WAS FOUND WORTHY TO DO IT, NOT IN HEAVEN, NOT ON EARTH, AND NOT UNDER THE EARTH.

So you have got a problem there, since Jesus is in HEAVEN. And if you set about expounding these things you will only end up enmeshed in your own contradictions.

Greetings,
PehJeshuah


I went back to see if Peh ever called himself a prophet and found something even more interesting.

No one - who believes - can discount that Jesus was the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world, right?

Well, the one who is found worthy to open the book is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, it is he that brought reconciliation, it is he that opens the seven seals.

Peh, you set yourself as the great teacher of scripture sent by God but you make a huge error here my friend.

Jesus is the one found worthy to open the seals.

And, for what it's worth no man will know what the testimony of the two witnesses is for they will reveal that which has not been written... the seven thunders!


Hello,

What is your problem?

Do you not realize what is indeed said about the opening of the seals, namely that nobody on earth, under the earth, or IN HEAVEN was found worthy to open the seals!

So, will you please explain why the Lamb could open the seals in spite of being in heaven!

This is your problem, for you must claim either (1) that the Lamb was not in heaven, or (2) that the heaven is not God's invisible heaven. No matter what your answer is, you will get into trouble and be forced to admit things you would hate to accept as biblically true.

But look, for the witnesses of God this text (not something unwritten) will be revealed by the two witnesses, whereas you will be stuck for a good explanation.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1207453


I have sat here and watched you sound your own horn for far too long and now I will speak.

Lets look shall we Peh?

And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

Who is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah?
Who was the lamb slain from the foundation of the earth?
Who took the book out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne?

Who is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world, who took the book, and who loosed the seals thereof?

You, who set yourself as a great expositor of scripture are able to snag the book from the hand of Jesus and claim he isn't the one who loosed the seals?

That is a mistake that cannot be made and needs mo spiritual understanding to glean from scripture.

It is plain that Jesus is the lamb who opened the seals... perhaps your god does not like Jesus?
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And further, if that's not enough...

And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.

Who are those in heaven claiming opened the seals of the book?

They are referring to the lamb slain from the foundation of the world!

Jesus the Christ of God.

Yet you claim, against the witness of heaven recorded in scripture, that Jesus did not loose those seals.

Interesting!
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Dear you,

This story or dream is just a devilish lie, having nothing whatsoever to do with Holy Scripture.


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Not a story, nor a dream, a vision. I saw it whilst i was wide awake in the middle of the day.


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First of all, the seven angels of Rev are not the seven spirits of God,


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I am well aware of this FACT. My interpretation of the vision is that what i saw were God's 7 Spirits. i am only a witness, i do have full understanding. Jesus only wanted me to post about what i had seen, NOT to interpret it. My interpretation of who the 7 Spirits represent are my thoughts only. 14 days after this vision, Jesus opened the 1st seal on the 11th of December, 2001. 14 days later, commencing on the 25th of December,2001, Sydney began to burn. It burnt for exatly 14 days. Elijah had been witholding the rain from around the 19th of December,1999, after the completeion of God's 7 years of Judgment, which commenced at 0747, on the 7th of December, 1992.


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and before anyone can speak of the two witnesses as such, claiming to be one of them, he (or she) must be able to show in what relation he and his fellow witness stand to the man child, who is the angel of the seven seals of Revelation.


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Not so. Jesus was with me at this time. Jesus personally opened the seals. Every one up until the sixth. Man child? Only one was found worthy to open the seals, and that was Jesus.


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There is a lot more to it that will debunk any false witness who dare step forward as one of the two witnesses, or any two persons who dare claim to be the two witnesses without being so. The war in heaven will be too fierce for such impostors to stand the heat.


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You would not know God's witness if he was responding to you, obviously.


God's witness of Revelation. I come in the power and Spirit of Elijah.



Dear you,

You are no witness since you don't know Scripture and therefore contradict the word of God. Jesus does not open the 7 seals in Revelation, for it is said in the book that NOBODY WAS FOUND WORTHY TO DO IT, NOT IN HEAVEN, NOT ON EARTH, AND NOT UNDER THE EARTH.

So you have got a problem there, since Jesus is in HEAVEN. And if you set about expounding these things you will only end up enmeshed in your own contradictions.

Greetings,
PehJeshuah


I went back to see if Peh ever called himself a prophet and found something even more interesting.

No one - who believes - can discount that Jesus was the Lamb slain before the foundation of the world, right?

Well, the one who is found worthy to open the book is the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world, it is he that brought reconciliation, it is he that opens the seven seals.

Peh, you set yourself as the great teacher of scripture sent by God but you make a huge error here my friend.

Jesus is the one found worthy to open the seals.

And, for what it's worth no man will know what the testimony of the two witnesses is for they will reveal that which has not been written... the seven thunders!


Hello,

What is your problem?

Do you not realize what is indeed said about the opening of the seals, namely that nobody on earth, under the earth, or IN HEAVEN was found worthy to open the seals!

So, will you please explain why the Lamb could open the seals in spite of being in heaven!

This is your problem, for you must claim either (1) that the Lamb was not in heaven, or (2) that the heaven is not God's invisible heaven. No matter what your answer is, you will get into trouble and be forced to admit things you would hate to accept as biblically true.

But look, for the witnesses of God this text (not something unwritten) will be revealed by the two witnesses, whereas you will be stuck for a good explanation.

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Perhaps I could offer you this.

When Christ was crucified he remained on earth for some time before going to his father.

During this time the books were opened and the dead were judged according to the law of Moses; this would be necessary in order for the old covenant to pass away.

After this Jesus went to his father as the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world and took the book from his right hand to loose the seals thereof.

We see in Revelation where they are looking for a man to open the seals but none is to be found. Then, when they think none shall be found suddenly we hear, the Lamb has prevailed to open the seals.

And I think we see this perfect picture in Daniel.

I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment [was] white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne [was like] the fiery flame, [and] his wheels [as] burning fire. A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened. I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld [even] till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time. I saw in the night visions, and, behold, [one] like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion [is] an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom [that] which shall not be destroyed.

The thrones cast down are the thrones of Satan in heaven after his war with Michael.

After Satan loses his power in heaven Gods people are judged according to the law of Moses, the books were opened.

Old covenant ended and reconciled.

New covenant established.

After the judgment we see Christ come before God to receive the book spoken of in Revelation and all power.
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Also I have a question to put you.

Do you think a servant of God would answer to you by referring to something else, himself, for instance, or his dreams and visions, rather than to Holy Scripture?

I do not simply give you interpretations of Scripture but the very core of the Scripture, and THAT IS WHY NOBODY CAN REFUTE WHAT I SAY. Do you find any person in the world who dare say this as I do, with impunity?

Since you seem to know Scripture you certainly know what Paul the apostle says, that the true servants of God would demolish every false figments of man that prevent people from realizing the very truth of God.

I tell you the truth, there is NOT EVEN ONE SINGLE commentator in the world that can say the things I do say, and get away with it without refutation. I can indeed, for I am the witness of God. And no one commentator in the world can refute me, for I am what I say! If you do not believe, then leave me, and I am no longer responsible for what happens to you!

Why did you not wait for my answer to what you asked about in you former post? Now I am not going to answer you at all. You may go wherever you want. The witness of God does not accept your effrontery! Go on searching, you false soul, I have had enough of your stupidity. This is the day of last warning, so God is no longer going to accept any of your insults. If you do not accept the testimony that saves, then you are free to go elsewhere. The true witness of God is not going to squander his time on you. Farewell!


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PehJeshuah:

I agree with you that the Scriptures are more important than than subjective experiences that are often experienced. II Peter 1:19 reads that "We have also a more sure word of prophecy" which clearly refers to the Bible. The thing is, you won't find, let's say, two airplane pilots flying the skies one day and one day later they are actually fulfilling the role of the 2 witnesses in Revelation 11. There is a process. In Revelation 2:2 the Scriptures read "I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:" There was a story involved here in exposing the false apostles. Either one your story is real or it is false. If you are real, then you would be glad to give the story. Matthew 22:34 says that "But when the Pharisees had heard that he had put the Sadducees to silence..." Is this why you said "Farewell!" to me, because you can't answer my question and so you blame me? All I'm asking is what is your story to make you believe that you are one of the witnesses in Revelation. I'm also curious about the story of your partner also. If you read the account in Revelation 11, you can see in verse 7 that "when they shall have finished their testimony..." which not doubt is the testimony of Christ but would include their call to the office in Revelation 11. Paul also gave his own testimony often without apology.

BTW, I'm not dealing with the contents of Revelation. I'm trying to get you first tell everyone including me how you got where you are.

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Has the OP posted on this thread recently?


Dear Americans,

You are eager in your belief in God, but you are oblivious of the enemy lying at your bosom. Prophecy foretells that the two witnesses will come to you, so how will you respond to their testimony. America, America, I want to warn you and gather you under my wings, but you are proud and building your fortresses in mountains without realizing that the greatest fortress is God Almighty.

Therefore America, I will shout to you, and my numbered ones will hear my voice and repent, but you blind will proceed in your iniquity until it is too late.

America, so high I let you be, but, alas, how low do you want to be? Put your trust wholly in the Lord, not in devious ways, let your kindheartedness hover like an eagle, and I will be your Lord. Listen to the wing flaps of charity, of brotherly conversation, and not to the voice of bossing. You will not be blessed anymore if you go on like the king among nations. No, but if you stretch out your arm and hand to your brother and sister in serious interhuman love, then you can be important in the development that stops every economical and political exploitation of poor people and those who shout to me, the Lord. Listen America, I give you just a few more years to better your ways. If you reject my warning you shall surely die a painful death. The Lord has spoken through his mouth of

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I went looking to vindicate Peh in that I did not believe he ever called himself a prophet... but I was mistaken, he did.

The whole thing written above is apparently a word from teh Lord himself and is ended with...

The Lord has spoken through his mouth of

PehJeshuah.

Man that is nothing less than claiming to be a prophet without so much as saying so.

Peh, you do claim to be a prophet so quit hiding and just state the obvious.
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Hahaha,

Can you not read what I say? I clearly say that prophecy (not me) foretells, but you are not clear enough in you head to understand that I just paraphrasing what Scripture says, not prophesying myself.

So who was busted?

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norway you have already done yourself in. you are finished. stop your chatering. you make no good arguement on any subject. you just want to argue.

i tell you this, the staff told me yesterday. if you do not stop this fussing and giving everyone a hard time. you will find your end. i tell you the truth. you are warned. stop it now. from the angels themself...chip
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No, let Norway go at it! Yes, he likes to argue, and to tell the truth, he is actually quite entertaining! He has most likely kept this blog going. Other blogs don't get 131 pages, do they? Hahahahaha!
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Jesus chose the two witnesses. It was Jesus who gave the powers / authority to the the two witnesses, in December, 1999, when they were 40 years old. It was Jesus who caused the two witnesses to prophesy. The "I will give" in 11.3 refers to Jesus.

Although Jesus chose the two witnesses, they were called by God, on December 7th, 1992, when God commenced his 7 years of judgment. The witnesses prophescied for Elijah for 1 year, commencing on the 3rd of December, 2000. Then Jesus caused them to prophesy for 3 and a half years, commencing on the 3rd of December, 2001.

God and Elijah were with the two witnesses for the entire period of God's judgment. Jesus did not come to the two witnesses until mid November, 1999. Jesus remained with the two witnesses for the entire period of their prophesy, only returning home on the 3rd of June, 2005.

Jesus opened the first seal on the 11th of December, 2001, after those Lucifer serving masons and zionists carried out 911 the false flag, and commenced the first battle of ww3 with the invasion of Afghanistan.


"Jesus opened the first seal on the 11th of December, 2001, after those Lucifer serving masons and zionists carried out 911 the false flag, and commenced the first battle of ww3 with the invasion of Afghanistan."

But you said it without having any foundation in the Bible for saying it. Therefore, go to the doctor. Take some medicine!




Just because God's 7 years of judgment ended, it did not end my testimony, which continues to this day. The above is MY testimony to God, because it is truth.



where do you get this info? it is wrong. if this were true the world would have seen them slain, laying in the streets for 3 1/2 days rejoiceing give ang getting gifts.

this is bad info!!!!
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Hello,

Those dates are just figments that have no basis in Holy Scripture. There is no 7-year time period of judgment, so get it in your head! You cannot take the last week of the 70 weeks in Dan 9:24, which ended in 36 AD, and spin a story on it about a 7-year judgment.

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I have sat here and watched you sound your own horn for far too long and now I will speak.

Lets look shall we Peh?

And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

Who is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah?
Who was the lamb slain from the foundation of the earth?
Who took the book out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne?

Who is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world, who took the book, and who loosed the seals thereof?

You, who set yourself as a great expositor of scripture are able to snag the book from the hand of Jesus and claim he isn't the one who loosed the seals?

That is a mistake that cannot be made and needs mo spiritual understanding to glean from scripture.

It is plain that Jesus is the lamb who opened the seals... perhaps your god does not like Jesus?
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Hello,

Yes, let us have a look at what you say. Why do you say that I blow my own horn and even snag the book from the hand of Jesus. That is simply not true.

What I have underlined, since it is clearly said in Scripture, is that noboy in heaven was found worthy of opening the seals of the book.

Listen, I say exactly what Holy Scripture says. In addition I say that since the Lamb is in God's invisible eternal heaven the heaven in Rev 5:3 cannot be the heaven meant when it is said that nobody in heaven was found worthy of opening the seals. The heaven meant is the basis of formerly true but now fallen-away Christian church.

When we look at Isa 11:1 we see this:

"And there shall come forth a shoot out of the stock of Jesse, and a branch out of his roots shall bear fruit."

(1) a shoot
(2) a branch that comes out of the shoot's roots

Since Jesus is the 'shoot' the branch is his servant, the man child of Rev 12:5. He is the one that receives the hidden manna and opens the seals, or rather, in the spirit of Jesus Christ he, this specific branch of the tree of life, is given the right to open the seals.

In Isa 66:6-8 this secret is foretold:

"A voice of tumult from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of Jehovah that rendereth recompense to his enemies. Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man-child. Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall a land be born in one day? shall a nation be brought forth at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children."

This is what Rev 12:5 foretells, so it is not about Mary's giving birth to Jesus but about the Word's giving birth in a person's heart. When he is born spiritually there is a spiritual night, and therefore nobody was found worthy of opening the seals until this "branch" of Jesus Christ came.

Isn't it strange, that while so-called Christians wait for Jesus Christ to return from God's eternal heaven He instead returns from below, in a man child who comes up from the roots that still remain after the falling-away of the true apostolic church.

So what I tell is in full accordance with Scripture, as you ought to see and realize.

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Hello, I will now show why you are wrong:

Perhaps I could offer you this.

When Christ was crucified he remained on earth for some time before going to his father.

During this time the books were opened and the dead were judged according to the law of Moses; this would be necessary in order for the old covenant to pass away.
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My comment:
No, the books (of deeds) are not going to be opened until the very last day, on the great judgment day. That you ought to see when reading Rev 20:11-12:

"And I saw a great white throne, and one sitting upon it, from whose face the earth and heaven fled away, and there was no place found for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing in the presence of the throne, and the books were opened; and another book was opened, which is the book of life; and the dead were judged by those things which were written in the books, according to their works."

This proves you to be wrong, for when the earth and heaven are not found any more the great judgment has indeed come. And it is clear that the books are opened on that last day.

After this Jesus went to his father as the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world and took the book from his right hand to loose the seals thereof.

We see in Revelation where they are looking for a man to open the seals but none is to be found. Then, when they think none shall be found suddenly we hear, the Lamb has prevailed to open the seals.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
You are wrong again. After Jesus went to his father he did not loose the seals of the book, for there had to pass a time period when nobody in the churches ("heaven") could open the seals. This time period was the spiritual night which Jesus had foretold, which Scripture lays down to be "42 months" (1260 years) long.

And I think we see this perfect picture in Daniel.

I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit, whose garment [was] white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne [was like] the fiery flame, [and] his wheels [as] burning fire. A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened
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My comment:
This judgment is what Rev 12:7 calls "war in heaven", and it is mentioned by Jesus in Mat 19:28 and Mat 8:12. It is waged on falsehood by the man child (Michael) and the two witnesses. Remember that every spiritual child of God is likened to a stone, as you can see from 1 Pet 2:5, so therefore the stone mentioned in Dan 2:34, which was cut out (from the false mountain) without hands is the man child of Rev 12:5. The burning wheels everybody can read about in Zech 1:15 and see that they are connected to the living creatures. Two of the living creatures symbolize the two witnesses, and they come from the north country, as you can see from Ezek 1:4. The books that were opened are the books of the Bible, wherein all these things ("judgment written) are foretold according to Psalm 149:9.

I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld [even] till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time.
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My comment:
The little horn is the Pope, who is the first head of the beast, whereas the beast itself is a composite being including all false churches in Christendom and the political powers that they are mixed with and which defend them. This judgment is spiritual by the two witnesses but will be literal by the fulfilment of Isa 24. It happens in the midst of New Testament time, as foretold in Hab 3:3, which reads:

"Revive thy work in the midst of the years; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath (because it is the time of judgment) remember mercy."

The rest of the beasts are those worldly powers that will be spared and submit to the rule of God's kingdom.

I saw in the night visions, and, behold, [one] like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him. And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion [is] an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom [that] which shall not be destroyed.
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My comment:
This coming in the clouds is the spiritual coming of Jesus Christ through a true witness foretold in Scripture, namely through the man child of Rev 12:5. Then will be fulfilled what Christians have prayed for through ages: "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done!, etc.".

The thrones cast down are the thrones of Satan in heaven after his war with Michael.
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My comment:
The thrones cast down are indeed the thrones of Satan, but they are here on this earth.

After Satan loses his power in heaven Gods people are judged according to the law of Moses, the books were opened.

Old covenant ended and reconciled.

New covenant established.
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My comment:
Rev 12:7-9 tells of Satan losing his power on earth, not in heaven, for from heaven the Devil was thrown in the days of Jesus. Read what Jesus said in John 12:31 when still on earth:

"Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out."

Therefore you are wrong in what you say about the heavenly war in Rev 12:7-9. Rev 12 does not speak of the Old Covenant but about the renewal of the New Covenant, which the beast has trampled underfoot.

The thrones cast down are indeed the thrones of Satan, but they are here on this earth. What you say about God's people being judged according to the Law of Moses is also wrong, for in New Testament time God's people do not live after the Law of Moses but in accordance with the gospel. So I ask you: What books are being opened in the spiritual judgment (Mat 19:28) if not the books of the Bible in order to prove what is foretold?

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@ Norway . Jn:8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
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wow that was cool
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As it says in the bible:

He who thinks he is first-will be last!!!
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@ Norway . Jn:8:44: Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
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So everybody hates my teachings here, thus also me?

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I have sat here and watched you sound your own horn for far too long and now I will speak.

Lets look shall we Peh?

And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

Who is the Lion of the Tribe of Judah?
Who was the lamb slain from the foundation of the earth?
Who took the book out of the right hand of him that sat on the throne?

Who is the lamb slain from the foundation of the world, who took the book, and who loosed the seals thereof?

You, who set yourself as a great expositor of scripture are able to snag the book from the hand of Jesus and claim he isn't the one who loosed the seals?

That is a mistake that cannot be made and needs mo spiritual understanding to glean from scripture.

It is plain that Jesus is the lamb who opened the seals... perhaps your god does not like Jesus?



Hello,

Yes, let us have a look at what you say. Why do you say that I blow my own horn and even snag the book from the hand of Jesus. That is simply not true.

What I have underlined, since it is clearly said in Scripture, is that noboy in heaven was found worthy of opening the seals of the book.

Listen, I say exactly what Holy Scripture says. In addition I say that since the Lamb is in God's invisible eternal heaven the heaven in Rev 5:3 cannot be the heaven meant when it is said that nobody in heaven was found worthy of opening the seals. The heaven meant is the basis of formerly true but now fallen-away Christian church.

When we look at Isa 11:1 we see this:

"And there shall come forth a shoot out of the stock of Jesse, and a branch out of his roots shall bear fruit."

(1) a shoot
(2) a branch that comes out of the shoot's roots

Since Jesus is the 'shoot' the branch is his servant, the man child of Rev 12:5. He is the one that receives the hidden manna and opens the seals, or rather, in the spirit of Jesus Christ he, this specific branch of the tree of life, is given the right to open the seals.

In Isa 66:6-8 this secret is foretold:

"A voice of tumult from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of Jehovah that rendereth recompense to his enemies. Before she travailed, she brought forth; before her pain came, she was delivered of a man-child. Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall a land be born in one day? shall a nation be brought forth at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children."

This is what Rev 12:5 foretells, so it is not about Mary's giving birth to Jesus but about the Word's giving birth in a person's heart. When he is born spiritually there is a spiritual night, and therefore nobody was found worthy of opening the seals until this "branch" of Jesus Christ came.

Isn't it strange, that while so-called Christians wait for Jesus Christ to return from God's eternal heaven He instead returns from below, in a man child who comes up from the roots that still remain after the falling-away of the true apostolic church.

So what I tell is in full accordance with Scripture, as you ought to see and realize.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1207453


You got the wrong picture my friend, the root is not the shoots root but the root of the stem of Jesse.

A rod (shoot) comes from a root, not the root from the rod (shoot).

I would further submit to you Peh, this.

When you speak of the rod and branch I don't see it the way you do for this is what I see.

'And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:'

The rod (shoot) is Jesus.

The branch is Jesus.

A branch cannot grow except it come forth a rod (shoot) first. Then, the rod (shoot) becomes a branch.I have seen trees shoot forth rods but the branch never comes; for whatever reason the shoot dies... as did Absalom. David had many offspring, many shoots from his root, but not all became branches in the tree of life. No, the one that grows into the branch, he is the one which shall be called Christ.

Read it again Peh.

'And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:'

The stem of Jesse. Why was Jesse a stem with no branches? Is it not because the house of Israel was taken from him, from David? Sure, Jesse still has roots and a stem but they aren't currently viable, so he's just a stem rooted in Christ waiting for the growing season.

Now, about the time of Christ the house of David through Mary brought forth a shoot, a rod sprung forth of the stem of Jesse.

This rod (shoot) which has newly shot forth grows into the branch.

Thus, Jesus says, I am the root and offspring of David.

Thus the rod (shoot) and the branch are one in the same.
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Hello,

Let us look at what you say. In the Bible's prophecies trees are symbols that also show things in chronological order, starting with the tree's or trunk's roots, which are the the beginning, an proceeding upwards to the latest branches or twigs. This is shown in Ezek 17:22, which actually describes prophetically the same thing as Dan 2:34. I will enlarge on this later on.

You got the wrong picture my friend, the root is not the shoots root but the root of the stem of Jesse.

A rod (shoot) comes from a root, not the root from the rod (shoot).
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
Everybody knows that roots grown downwards whereas shoots or branches grow upwards. By claiming what you do you destroy the chronology of the symbolic tree and make it impossible for yourself to see the gist of the prophecy.

If the root meant is the root of the stem of Jesse, as you claim, then you are, without sensing it, maintaining that before the time of Jesse there were two Jesuses, the one called "shoot" and another one called "Branch". The whole chronology of yours collapses that way.

I would further submit to you Peh, this.

When you speak of the rod and branch I don't see it the way you do for this is what I see.

'And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:'

The rod (shoot) is Jesus.

The branch is Jesus.

My comment:
So what are the roots out of which the branch comes? You cannot say that the branch comes out of the roots of Jesse, for no branch comes out of roots that are under the ground. Branches come out of the stem of the tree, thus later than the roots of the tree.

But since you say that both the rod and the branch are Jesus, then you are kind of admitting that the branch comes from the rod, or, to keep ourselves to Scripture, from the roots of the rod.

The Hebrew text says this:
There shall come a CHOTER (rod) up from the GEZA' (stump) of Jesse; from his SHARASHAW (roots) there comes a NETSER (shoot, sprout) that will bear fruit.

The important thing to consider here is what does the possessive pronoun his point to? If you say it points to the roots of Jesse, then you mess it up by neglecting that Isaiah, the prophet, lived long after the time of Jesse, the father of king David, and also that the prophet pointed to something being fulfilled in the future. This excludes your possibility to claim that the BRANCH, SHOOT, or SPROUT comes out of the roots of Jesse. You cannot say that a prophecy is fulfilled before it is brought forth by the prophet!

A branch cannot grow except it come forth a rod (shoot) first. Then, the rod (shoot) becomes a branch.I have seen trees shoot forth rods but the branch never comes; for whatever reason the shoot dies... as did Absalom. David had many offspring, many shoots from his root, but not all became branches in the tree of life. No, the one that grows into the branch, he is the one which shall be called Christ.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
So you do not know that the Hebrew word CHOTER, which is translated as "rod" or "shoot" in English actually means "branch"? Your argument is therefore lame. It is NETSER (shoot or sprout), which is translated as BRANCH in English, that comes out of the mentioned "roots". Would you say that NETSER comes out of the roots of the stump of Jesse? Have you ever heard of trees that have branches that can set new roots? They exist, for example mangroves, so they can illustrate what I mean. There is a NETSER that comes from the roots of the CHOTER that will bear fruit. How can it happen? Well, when the true apostolic church (CHOTER) was overcome by false teachers only its roots, the Scripture, remained, but from these roots comes the man child in Rev 12:5 and Zech 11:14. This cannot be denied!

Read it again Peh.

'And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:'

The stem of Jesse. Why was Jesse a stem with no branches? Is it not because the house of Israel was taken from him, from David? Sure, Jesse still has roots and a stem but they aren't currently viable, so he's just a stem rooted in Christ waiting for the growing season.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
The answer is easy, for what you say is the stem of Jesse the Hebrew Bible says is a stump (not a stem) of Jesse. What else you say is just rubbish, since you keep referring to a stem that is non-existing!

Now, about the time of Christ the house of David through Mary brought forth a shoot, a rod sprung forth of the stem of Jesse.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
As I already said, CHOTER means "rod" and "branch" but never "shoot" or "sprout". It is NETZER (in English "branch") which is "shoot" and "sprout", so you have much to correct in your eschatology. Mary did not bring forth a "shoot" but the "Branch" of the stump of Jesse.

This rod (shoot) which has newly shot forth grows into the branch.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
This rod is not "this shoot or sprout", so forget about that error of yours!

Thus, Jesus says, I am the root and offspring of David.

Thus the rod (shoot) and the branch are one in the same.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comments:
Thank you, for here you admit that his roots in Isa 11:1 refer to Jesus and not to the roots of the stump of Jesse! Okay, out of this root Jesus Christ comes the sprout that bears fruit, the one who is said to be the "Branch" in the English Bible. But why is he the root and not the stem?
Let me tell you! Because his church was overcome by falsehood and he, the word of God, was the only one being left. He, the root and roots of the apostolic church, was the only thing being left. But from his word, namely from the roots, comes the man child, who is the "shoot" that bears fruit. And with the man child come the two witnesses, one of who I indeed am. Spurn it as much as you want, but I am what I tell you, and therefore you can never overcome me in the knowledge of Scripture. I am sent to warn you, and if you do not care it means that you fail in the trial that according to Rev 3:10 will test them that dwell on the earth.

Hate me, oppose me, do whatever you want, for nevertheless you will see in the end that the true witness of God tried to save you!

Greetings from
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Hello,

Let us look at what you say. In the Bible's prophecies trees are symbols that also show things in chronological order, starting with the tree's or trunk's roots, which are the the beginning, an proceeding upwards to the latest branches or twigs. This is shown in Ezek 17:22, which actually describes prophetically the same thing as Dan 2:34. I will enlarge on this later on.


You got the wrong picture my friend, the root is not the shoots root but the root of the stem of Jesse.

A rod (shoot) comes from a root, not the root from the rod (shoot).

My comment:
Everybody knows that roots grown downwards whereas shoots or branches grow upwards. By claiming what you do you destroy the chronology of the symbolic tree and make it impossible for yourself to see the gist of the prophecy.

If the root meant is the root of the stem of Jesse, as you claim, then you are, without sensing it, maintaining that before the time of Jesse there were two Jesuses, the one called "shoot" and another one called "Branch". The whole chronology of yours collapses that way.

I would further submit to you Peh, this.

When you speak of the rod and branch I don't see it the way you do for this is what I see.

'And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:'

The rod (shoot) is Jesus.

The branch is Jesus.

My comment:
So what are the roots out of which the branch comes? You cannot say that the branch comes out of the roots of Jesse, for no branch comes out of roots that are under the ground. Branches come out of the stem of the tree, thus later than the roots of the tree.

But since you say that both the rod and the branch are Jesus, then you are kind of admitting that the branch comes from the rod, or, to keep ourselves to Scripture, from the roots of the rod.

The Hebrew text says this:
There shall come a CHOTER (rod) up from the GEZA' (stump) of Jesse; from his SHARASHAW (roots) there comes a NETSER (shoot, sprout) that will bear fruit.

The important thing to consider here is what does the possessive pronoun his point to? If you say it points to the roots of Jesse, then you mess it up by neglecting that Isaiah, the prophet, lived long after the time of Jesse, the father of king David, and also that the prophet pointed to something being fulfilled in the future. This excludes your possibility to claim that the BRANCH, SHOOT, or SPROUT comes out of the roots of Jesse. You cannot say that a prophecy is fulfilled before it is brought forth by the prophet!

A branch cannot grow except it come forth a rod (shoot) first. Then, the rod (shoot) becomes a branch.I have seen trees shoot forth rods but the branch never comes; for whatever reason the shoot dies... as did Absalom. David had many offspring, many shoots from his root, but not all became branches in the tree of life. No, the one that grows into the branch, he is the one which shall be called Christ.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
So you do not know that the Hebrew word CHOTER, which is translated as "rod" or "shoot" in English actually means "branch"? Your argument is therefore lame. It is NETSER (shoot or sprout), which is translated as BRANCH in English, that comes out of the mentioned "roots". Would you say that NETSER comes out of the roots of the stump of Jesse? Have you ever heard of trees that have branches that can set new roots? They exist, for example mangroves, so they can illustrate what I mean. There is a NETSER that comes from the roots of the CHOTER that will bear fruit. How can it happen? Well, when the true apostolic church (CHOTER) was overcome by false teachers only its roots, the Scripture, remained, but from these roots comes the man child in Rev 12:5 and Zech 11:14. This cannot be denied!

Read it again Peh.

'And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:'

The stem of Jesse. Why was Jesse a stem with no branches? Is it not because the house of Israel was taken from him, from David? Sure, Jesse still has roots and a stem but they aren't currently viable, so he's just a stem rooted in Christ waiting for the growing season.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
The answer is easy, for what you say is the stem of Jesse the Hebrew Bible says is a stump (not a stem) of Jesse. What else you say is just rubbish, since you keep referring to a stem that is non-existing!

Now, about the time of Christ the house of David through Mary brought forth a shoot, a rod sprung forth of the stem of Jesse.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
As I already said, CHOTER means "rod" and "branch" but never "shoot" or "sprout". It is NETZER (in English "branch") which is "shoot" and "sprout", so you have much to correct in your eschatology. Mary did not bring forth a "shoot" but the "Branch" of the stump of Jesse.

This rod (shoot) which has newly shot forth grows into the branch.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
This rod is not "this shoot or sprout", so forget about that error of yours!

Thus, Jesus says, I am the root and offspring of David.

Thus the rod (shoot) and the branch are one in the same.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comments:
Thank you, for here you admit that his roots in Isa 11:1 refer to Jesus and not to the roots of the stump of Jesse! Okay, out of this root Jesus Christ comes the sprout that bears fruit, the one who is said to be the "Branch" in the English Bible. But why is he the root and not the stem?
Let me tell you! Because his church was overcome by falsehood and he, the word of God, was the only one being left. He, the root and roots of the apostolic church, was the only thing being left. But from his word, namely from the roots, comes the man child, who is the "shoot" that bears fruit. And with the man child come the two witnesses, one of who I indeed am. Spurn it as much as you want, but I am what I tell you, and therefore you can never overcome me in the knowledge of Scripture. I am sent to warn you, and if you do not care it means that you fail in the trial that according to Rev 3:10 will test them that dwell on the earth.

Hate me, oppose me, do whatever you want, for nevertheless you will see in the end that the true witness of God tried to save you!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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Hello,

Let us look at what you say. In the Bible's prophecies trees are symbols that also show things in chronological order, starting with the tree's or trunk's roots, which are the the beginning, an proceeding upwards to the latest branches or twigs. This is shown in Ezek 17:22, which actually describes prophetically the same thing as Dan 2:34. I will enlarge on this later on.

You got the wrong picture my friend, the root is not the shoots root but the root of the stem of Jesse.

A rod (shoot) comes from a root, not the root from the rod (shoot).
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
Everybody knows that roots grown downwards whereas shoots or branches grow upwards. By claiming what you do you destroy the chronology of the symbolic tree and make it impossible for yourself to see the gist of the prophecy.

If the root meant is the root of the stem of Jesse, as you claim, then you are, without sensing it, maintaining that before the time of Jesse there were two Jesuses, the one called "shoot" and another one called "Branch". The whole chronology of yours collapses that way.

I would further submit to you Peh, this.

When you speak of the rod and branch I don't see it the way you do for this is what I see.

'And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:'

The rod (shoot) is Jesus.

The branch is Jesus.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
So what are the roots out of which the branch comes? You cannot say that the branch comes out of the roots of Jesse, for no branch comes out of roots that are under the ground. Branches come out of the stem of the tree, thus later than the roots of the tree.

But since you say that both the rod and the branch are Jesus, then you are kind of admitting that the branch comes from the rod, or, to keep ourselves to Scripture, from the roots of the rod.

The Hebrew text says this:
There shall come a CHOTER (rod) up from the GEZA' (stump) of Jesse; from his SHARASHAW (roots) there comes a NETSER (shoot, sprout) that will bear fruit.

The important thing to consider here is what does the possessive pronoun his point to? If you say it points to the roots of Jesse, then you mess it up by neglecting that Isaiah, the prophet, lived long after the time of Jesse, the father of king David, and also that the prophet pointed to something being fulfilled in the future. This excludes your possibility to claim that the BRANCH, SHOOT, or SPROUT comes out of the roots of Jesse. You cannot say that a prophecy is fulfilled before it is brought forth by the prophet!

A branch cannot grow except it come forth a rod (shoot) first. Then, the rod (shoot) becomes a branch.I have seen trees shoot forth rods but the branch never comes; for whatever reason the shoot dies... as did Absalom. David had many offspring, many shoots from his root, but not all became branches in the tree of life. No, the one that grows into the branch, he is the one which shall be called Christ.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
So you do not know that the Hebrew word CHOTER, which is translated as "rod" or "shoot" in English actually means "branch"? Your argument is therefore lame. It is NETSER (shoot or sprout), which is translated as BRANCH in English, that comes out of the mentioned "roots". Would you say that NETSER comes out of the roots of the stump of Jesse? Have you ever heard of trees that have branches that can set new roots? They exist, for example mangroves, so they can illustrate what I mean. There is a NETSER that comes from the roots of the CHOTER that will bear fruit. How can it happen? Well, when the true apostolic church (CHOTER) was overcome by false teachers only its roots, the Scripture, remained, but from these roots comes the man child in Rev 12:5 and Zech 11:14. This cannot be denied!

Read it again Peh.

'And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:'

The stem of Jesse. Why was Jesse a stem with no branches? Is it not because the house of Israel was taken from him, from David? Sure, Jesse still has roots and a stem but they aren't currently viable, so he's just a stem rooted in Christ waiting for the growing season.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
The answer is easy, for what you say is the stem of Jesse the Hebrew Bible says is a stump (not a stem) of Jesse. What else you say is just rubbish, since you keep referring to a stem that is non-existing!

Now, about the time of Christ the house of David through Mary brought forth a shoot, a rod sprung forth of the stem of Jesse.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
As I already said, CHOTER means "rod" and "branch" but never "shoot" or "sprout". It is NETZER (in English "branch") which is "shoot" and "sprout", so you have much to correct in your eschatology. Mary did not bring forth a "shoot" but the "Branch" of the stump of Jesse.

This rod (shoot) which has newly shot forth grows into the branch.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comment:
This rod is not "this shoot or sprout", so forget about that error of yours!

Thus, Jesus says, I am the root and offspring of David.

Thus the rod (shoot) and the branch are one in the same.
 Quoting: aman 914180


My comments:
Thank you, for here you admit that his roots in Isa 11:1 refer to Jesus and not to the roots of the stump of Jesse! Okay, out of this root Jesus Christ comes the sprout that bears fruit, the one who is said to be the "Branch" in the English Bible. But why is he the root and not the stem?
Let me tell you! Because his church was overcome by falsehood and he, the word of God, was the only one being left. He, the root and roots of the apostolic church, was the only thing being left. But from his word, namely from the roots, comes the man child, who is the "shoot" that bears fruit. And with the man child come the two witnesses, one of who I indeed am. Spurn it as much as you want, but I am what I tell you, and therefore you can never overcome me in the knowledge of Scripture. I am sent to warn you, and if you do not care it means that you fail in the trial that according to Rev 3:10 will test them that dwell on the earth.

Hate me, oppose me, do whatever you want, for nevertheless you will see in the end that the true witness of God tried to save you!

Greetings from
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Just because God's 7 years of judgment ended, it did not end my testimony, which continues to this day. The above is MY testimony to God, because it is truth.



where do you get this info? it is wrong. if this were true the world would have seen them slain, laying in the streets for 3 1/2 days rejoiceing give ang getting gifts.

this is bad info!!!!


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The witnesses are not slain at the completion of God's judgement.



The witnesses are not slain at the completion of their prophesy.


The witnesses are slain by satan at the completion of their testimony. This happens between the launching of the sixth and 7th Angel.

Jesus will not open the 7th and final seal until one of the witnesses have flipped the Poles.

The 7 Angels do not launch until Jesus opens the 7th seal.

Your fate rests in the hands of the two witnesses. Don't piss them off whatever you do.
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What is your problem?

Do you not realize what is indeed said about the opening of the seals, namely that nobody on earth, under the earth, or IN HEAVEN was found worthy to open the seals!

So, will you please explain why the Lamb could open the seals in spite of being in heaven!

This is your problem, for you must claim either (1) that the Lamb was not in heaven, or (2) that the heaven is not God's invisible heaven. No matter what your answer is, you will get into trouble and be forced to admit things you would hate to accept as biblically true.

But look, for the witnesses of God this text (not something unwritten) will be revealed by the two witnesses, whereas you will be stuck for a good explanation.

Greetings from
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When Jesus opened the first seal, on the 11th of December, 2001, Jesus was in the clouds above the earth..Jesus was working with the two witnesses.

Get it now shit for brains.





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