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I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

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I've always thought that the marks on the hands/forehead thing was more of a metaphore than a litteral thing.
Someone will be marked by their actions ( their hands), and their thoughts/beliefs( their foreheads).
If that is the way it is meant to be intrepreted..then many people have already accepted the marks, by participating in the World as we know it, and it's systems, and by accepting the 'societal beliefs', instead of following their hearts, Creator's way of living.
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A Message to All:

God has given us the right to believe anything we want. However, we will give an account of it in the future. We have to have a basis for what we believe. I believe what the Bible says. Otherwise I'm going on a false premise.

Blessings to all:
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Just what I thought . Check out this website guys .

[link to libertytothecaptives.net]

Looks like more shameful translations .
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Ok ignore that website , not the one I had in mind .
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I've always thought that the marks on the hands/forehead thing was more of a metaphore than a litteral thing.
Someone will be marked by their actions ( their hands), and their thoughts/beliefs( their foreheads).
If that is the way it is meant to be intrepreted..then many people have already accepted the marks, by participating in the World as we know it, and it's systems, and by accepting the 'societal beliefs', instead of following their hearts, Creator's way of living.
 Quoting: Woodsprite




Mark 7:21-23, "For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."


Romans 12:2, "Be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind.


My words are spirit and they are life.

God is a spirit, and those that worship God must do so in spirit, for the Father SEEKS those that do.



Creators way of living is it.


You assume the creator is human.
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Just what I thought . Check out this website guys .

[link to libertytothecaptives.net]

Looks like more shameful translations .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343401


I have a copy of the Greek in my other computer. When I open it the next time, I'll take a look at this, and get back to you.

BTW, getting mad at translations doesn't do any good for anyone. Every translation out there has issues, but God has given us His Word.

What is helpful is having multiple translations. We don't have the originals, and if we did have the originals, most of us would not understand it.

Blessings,
BlueSnail
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I've always thought that the marks on the hands/forehead thing was more of a metaphore than a litteral thing.
Someone will be marked by their actions ( their hands), and their thoughts/beliefs( their foreheads).
If that is the way it is meant to be intrepreted..then many people have already accepted the marks, by participating in the World as we know it, and it's systems, and by accepting the 'societal beliefs', instead of following their hearts, Creator's way of living.
 Quoting: Woodsprite


Are you saved?
 Quoting: BlueSnail


I have no idea if I am or not...I don't participate in Religions . I am a very Spiritual person though, and tend to follow the Universals that run thru all the major World Religions...very much love and accept Creator in my life.
I know in 1998, I had a Shamanic Death, that Creator sent to me....via my Native Ancestors.
Came after I felt so very lost, and had been speaking with Creator about feeling so 'off path', and asked to be shown my TRUE PATH, clearly.
It was a very powerful, overwhelming, beautiful experience that changed me and my life forever.
I walked away from the Material World, and have been living in the Spiritual ever since.
I find that there are many things repeated in the Religous Texts of the differant World Religions...just worded differantly.
This passage in Revelations is found in others as well, but worded differantly, but the same basic message is there.

In Native prophecies, it talks about how everything and everyone is CORRUPTED..even the hearts and minds of the people, children turning against parents, ect.
It's talking about corrupt 'thoughts/beliefs'...the 'actions' of the young people in those days will be violent, and they will feel no love or loyalty to even their own family, and will turn against them ...their actions will hurt the planet, and hurt their loved ones.
They could only do these things if first, they the 'thoughts'( their forehead marked by the thoughts)..their hands marked by the 'actions' the 'thoughts/beliefs' created.
It's there in them all, if you look with an open heart.
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no one has the mark as of yet
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Chip! We agree on something.

Blessings,
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I've always thought that the marks on the hands/forehead thing was more of a metaphore than a litteral thing.
Someone will be marked by their actions ( their hands), and their thoughts/beliefs( their foreheads).
If that is the way it is meant to be intrepreted..then many people have already accepted the marks, by participating in the World as we know it, and it's systems, and by accepting the 'societal beliefs', instead of following their hearts, Creator's way of living.
 Quoting: Woodsprite





no one has the mark as of yet, it will come with the money change in china. everyone will have a chance at knowing the truth. most will take the easy way out and blame GOD as they always do...
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Some of you are assuming that you will be alive to receive the mark.

Or do only good things happen up to that point in revelation?
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I've always thought that the marks on the hands/forehead thing was more of a metaphore than a litteral thing.
Someone will be marked by their actions ( their hands), and their thoughts/beliefs( their foreheads).
If that is the way it is meant to be intrepreted..then many people have already accepted the marks, by participating in the World as we know it, and it's systems, and by accepting the 'societal beliefs', instead of following their hearts, Creator's way of living.
 Quoting: Woodsprite





no one has the mark as of yet, it will come with the money change in china. everyone will have a chance at knowing the truth. most will take the easy way out and blame GOD as they always do...
 Quoting: chipg


By participating in the greedy destructive monetary system, you could already be marked.
By rejecting the current monetary system, you would in essance be rejecting the 'mark'.
Creator has nothing to do with money...never has.
Money is strictly a Human invention.
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I've always thought that the marks on the hands/forehead thing was more of a metaphore than a litteral thing.
Someone will be marked by their actions ( their hands), and their thoughts/beliefs( their foreheads).
If that is the way it is meant to be intrepreted..then many people have already accepted the marks, by participating in the World as we know it, and it's systems, and by accepting the 'societal beliefs', instead of following their hearts, Creator's way of living.
 Quoting: Woodsprite


A Message to All:

God has given us the right to believe anything we want. However, we will give an account of it in the future. We have to have a basis for what we believe. I believe what the Bible says. Otherwise I'm going on a false premise.

Blessings to all:
BlueSnail
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I can live with that..
I'm not trying to sway anyone...just throwing my own opinion about what it means into the conversation, like others on here are doing.
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Just what I thought . Check out this website guys .

[link to libertytothecaptives.net]

Looks like more shameful translations .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343401


I have a copy of the Greek in my other computer. When I open it the next time, I'll take a look at this, and get back to you.

BTW, getting mad at translations doesn't do any good for anyone. Every translation out there has issues, but God has given us His Word.

What is helpful is having multiple translations. We don't have the originals, and if we did have the originals, most of us would not understand it.

Blessings,
BlueSnail
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Yes , please do . It all comes down to the correct translation , is it on the hand and forehead or in them .
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I've always thought that the marks on the hands/forehead thing was more of a metaphore than a litteral thing.
Someone will be marked by their actions ( their hands), and their thoughts/beliefs( their foreheads).
If that is the way it is meant to be intrepreted..then many people have already accepted the marks, by participating in the World as we know it, and it's systems, and by accepting the 'societal beliefs', instead of following their hearts, Creator's way of living.
 Quoting: Woodsprite





no one has the mark as of yet, it will come with the money change in china. everyone will have a chance at knowing the truth. most will take the easy way out and blame GOD as they always do...
 Quoting: chipg


By participating in the greedy destructive monetary system, you could already be marked.
By rejecting the current monetary system, you would in essance be rejecting the 'mark'.
Creator has nothing to do with money...never has.
Money is strictly a Human invention.
 Quoting: Woodsprite


The things about money that Jesus condemned were the "love of" it and the wrong handling of it. There's nothing wrong with having money.
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I've always thought that the marks on the hands/forehead thing was more of a metaphore than a litteral thing.
Someone will be marked by their actions ( their hands), and their thoughts/beliefs( their foreheads).
If that is the way it is meant to be intrepreted..then many people have already accepted the marks, by participating in the World as we know it, and it's systems, and by accepting the 'societal beliefs', instead of following their hearts, Creator's way of living.
 Quoting: Woodsprite




Mark 7:21-23, "For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: All these evil things come from within, and defile the man."


Romans 12:2, "Be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind.


My words are spirit and they are life.

God is a spirit, and those that worship God must do so in spirit, for the Father SEEKS those that do.



Creators way of living is it.


You assume the creator is human.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343728


Everyone has their own way to interpret these things, and there is truth that many of men's hearts are corrupted by these things.
But there is also a truth of the heart, when you don't let EGO control you anymore, where the heart speaks the truth.
It is not the Heart that decieves us...it is our EGO that decieves us.
Learn to get the EGO under control, then you can hear the truth of Heart /Spirit/Creator speaking to you.
I know that Creator is not Human...and I'm pretty sure my whole hypothesis about the real nature of Creator would differ from yours.
I don't see Creator as a seperate Entity...I think we are a tiny cell in Creator..a part of Creator....everything here on Earth, and Space is all a part of Creator.
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I've always thought that the marks on the hands/forehead thing was more of a metaphore than a litteral thing.
Someone will be marked by their actions ( their hands), and their thoughts/beliefs( their foreheads).
If that is the way it is meant to be intrepreted..then many people have already accepted the marks, by participating in the World as we know it, and it's systems, and by accepting the 'societal beliefs', instead of following their hearts, Creator's way of living.
 Quoting: Woodsprite





no one has the mark as of yet, it will come with the money change in china. everyone will have a chance at knowing the truth. most will take the easy way out and blame GOD as they always do...
 Quoting: chipg


By participating in the greedy destructive monetary system, you could already be marked.
By rejecting the current monetary system, you would in essance be rejecting the 'mark'.
Creator has nothing to do with money...never has.
Money is strictly a Human invention.
 Quoting: Woodsprite

The things about money that Jesus condemned were the "love of" it and the wrong handling of it. There's nothing wrong with having money.
 Quoting: BlueSnail


You have to LOVE it to work so many hours a day to aquire it, to continue to get more and more of it.
If you did not love money, you wouldn't have very much of it, because you wouldn't be willing to devote so much time to 'aquireing it'.
You only spend great amounts of time doing things you love, not things you hate.
Think about it...
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I walked away from the Material World, and have been living in the Spiritual ever since.

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You may have been misunderstanding me. We live in the material world. We eat food, see things, etc. We are so designed.

I have no idea if I am [saved] or not...I don't participate in Religions . I am a very Spiritual person though, and tend to follow the Universals that run thru all the major World Religions...very much love and accept Creator in my life.

 Quoting: Woodsprite


By definition in the Bible, you would not be saved. I wouldn't say that I'm trying to sway you, but I would say that I'm trying to warn you of a literal lake of fire that all those who go there will be able to see and feel in the future.

Be saved. Repent of your sin, and put your trust in Jesus Christ. He is eternal life.

Blessings,
BlueSnail

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Yes , please do . It all comes down to the correct translation , is it on the hand and forehead or in them .
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Ireland:

As far as everything coming down to the correct translation, I would agree that the greek carries weight, but what the Bible says still is true with or without our approval.

I did check the Greek and it does say "on" and not "in."

I want to see your response.

Blessings,
BlueSnail

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Yes , please do . It all comes down to the correct translation , is it on the hand and forehead or in them .
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Ireland:

As far as everything coming down to the correct translation, I would agree that the greek carries weight, but what the Bible says still is true with or without our approval.

I did check the Greek and it does say "on" and not "in."

I want to see your response.

Blessings,
BlueSnail
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Yes !!! I knew it . So now what do you think of my other posts ??? Have you been enlightened ??? Ponder these things .
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Yes !!! I knew it . So now what do you think of my other posts ??? Have you been enlightened ??? Ponder these things .
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The only thing I now see is that the mark of the beast is "on" the hand and not "in" the hand. There is nothing metaphorical or figurative about it. Neither has it already come to pass. It will be evil.

Blessings,
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How many people have these scribes led astray ??? They will have to account for it , the blood will be on there hands .
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Yes !!! I knew it . So now what do you think of my other posts ??? Have you been enlightened ??? Ponder these things .
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The only thing I now see is that the mark of the beast is "on" the hand and not "in" the hand. There is nothing metaphorical or figurative about it. Neither has it already come to pass. It will be evil.

Blessings,
BlueSnail
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Can you not see the connection with the Law ???
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It changes everything Blue Snail .
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Hallelujah , I believe God led me to this today .
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And Happy Sabbath Guys . hf
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look guys, as you go though your daily lifes start looking for a place where about a 100 to a 1000 people could live.
it needs to be near running water. this summer this thing is going to come to a head.

be ready to help your family and friends. what is it going to hurt?
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Dear Chip:

Believe it or not, I'm on your side. I am. Don't leave the blog this summer. I want to speak with you this fall.

Blessings,
BlueSnail
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It changes everything Blue Snail .
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I checked the passage in Exodus. Many of the translations put the meaning in the OT as figurative. The one in Revelation for sure is NOT figurative.

Blessings,
BlueSnail
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Hallelujah , I believe God led me to this today .
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How old are you?
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I've always thought that the marks on the hands/forehead thing was more of a metaphore than a litteral thing.
Someone will be marked by their actions ( their hands), and their thoughts/beliefs( their foreheads).
If that is the way it is meant to be intrepreted..then many people have already accepted the marks, by participating in the World as we know it, and it's systems, and by accepting the 'societal beliefs', instead of following their hearts, Creator's way of living.
 Quoting: Woodsprite


+1
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You are so very,very close & on the verge of full understanding of REVEALING to yourself & others that which currently is vying for the souls of HIS creation. That which worketh now is the ANTI-CHRIST SPIRIT that all who are un-aware are aiding it's suttle demise of replacing the HOLY of HOLIES presence of HIS ANOINTING SPIRIT & replacing it with that SPIRIT which delivers all unto the Abyss. The system at hand is that which worketh against the MOST HIGH & HIS CREATION......The ABOMINATION of DESOLATION that makes the TEMPLES in all MEN......DESOLATE.Be still & quite,meditate & pray without ceasing & know what is WRITTEN unto the TEMPLES of the LORD GOD who formed us. It's good to be ALIVE says gd2balive
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It changes everything Blue Snail .
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I checked the passage in Exodus. Many of the translations put the meaning in the OT as figurative. The one in Revelation for sure is NOT figurative.

Blessings,
BlueSnail
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How do you know ???
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Hallelujah , I believe God led me to this today .
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How old are you?
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25 , Why ??? What age are you ???
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Hallelujah , I believe God led me to this today .
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How old are you?
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Why are you saying there is something wrong with what I wrote ???
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Hallelujah , I believe God led me to this today .
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How old are you?
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25 , Why ??? What age are you ???
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I guessed right. I'm 37 this year.





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