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The two witnesses are first and foremost prophets; have any here claiming to be such even spoken words regarding future things that came to pass?
 Quoting: Aman 1345623


The two witnesses are first and foremost witnesses, they shall only prophesy for 1260 days.
 Quoting: daretospeak


So, what makes you think those days are continuous?

Could span out over 50 years that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1348496


Continuous, 3 other witnesses testify to this.

1260 days....witnesses prophesy
1260 days....church in the wilderness
1260 days....reign of the beast
1260 days....Holy city trodden down

these four thing occur at the same time. therefore must be continuous.
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I that live, but Christ now lives in me and the life I live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
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I see there has been an influx of participants in the thread of the two witnesses. Did somebody go and advertise? I may do some advertising myself if I have time.

While I'm at it, I want to add that Chip most likely would not be going on the road had it not been this thread. No doubt, this thread has added to his confidence.

Blessings,
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The two witnesses are first and foremost prophets; have any here claiming to be such even spoken words regarding future things that came to pass?
 Quoting: Aman 1345623


The two witnesses are first and foremost witnesses, they shall only prophesy for 1260 days.
 Quoting: daretospeak


So, what makes you think those days are continuous?

Could span out over 50 years that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1348496


Continuous, 3 other witnesses testify to this.

1260 days....witnesses prophesy
1260 days....church in the wilderness
1260 days....reign of the beast
1260 days....Holy city trodden down

these four thing occur at the same time. therefore must be continuous.
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Dear daretospeak:

If I may, I'd like to question you on your status. Please, don't write a long answer, if that is ok with you. My questions are simple and to the point.

1) Do you believe that you are one of the witnesses in Revelation 11?

2) Where are you getting your dates for the endtimes, etc, and that Gordon Fox will win the 2012 election? You have said a few bold remarks at this point.

Blessings,
BlueSnail

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The two witnesses are first and foremost witnesses, they shall only prophesy for 1260 days.
 Quoting: daretospeak


So, what makes you think those days are continuous?

Could span out over 50 years that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1348496


Continuous, 3 other witnesses testify to this.

1260 days....witnesses prophesy
1260 days....church in the wilderness
1260 days....reign of the beast
1260 days....Holy city trodden down

these four thing occur at the same time. therefore must be continuous.
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Dear daretospeak:

If I may, I'd like to question you on your status. Please, don't write a long answer, if that is ok with you. My questions are simple and to the point.

1) Do you believe that you are one of the witnesses in Revelation 11?

2) Where are you getting your dates for the endtimes, etc, and that Gordon Fox will win the 2012 election? You have said a few bold remarks at this point.

Blessings,
BlueSnail
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1)I am who everyone THINKS I am, for I can not change any ones mind. So to say I am or I am not is futile. I will say that I walk by faith.

2)I have not given dates, of my own, nov 2012 is Americas next presidential election. I calculated fox to be 666, I asked God for Fox's first name, He said Gordon. I knew of no such person at the time, but found him sitting in the house of representitives in Rhode island. Bold they are but nothing I have said is in error...yet, :) lol
people believe what they want.
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I that live, but Christ now lives in me and the life I live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
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So, what makes you think those days are continuous?

Could span out over 50 years that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1348496


Continuous, 3 other witnesses testify to this.

1260 days....witnesses prophesy
1260 days....church in the wilderness
1260 days....reign of the beast
1260 days....Holy city trodden down

these four thing occur at the same time. therefore must be continuous.
 Quoting: daretospeak


Dear daretospeak:

If I may, I'd like to question you on your status. Please, don't write a long answer, if that is ok with you. My questions are simple and to the point.

1) Do you believe that you are one of the witnesses in Revelation 11?

2) Where are you getting your dates for the endtimes, etc, and that Gordon Fox will win the 2012 election? You have said a few bold remarks at this point.

Blessings,
BlueSnail
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1)I am who everyone THINKS I am, for I can not change any ones mind. So to say I am or I am not is futile. I will say that I walk by faith.

2)I have not given dates, of my own, nov 2012 is Americas next presidential election. I calculated fox to be 666, I asked God for Fox's first name, He said Gordon. I knew of no such person at the time, but found him sitting in the house of representitives in Rhode island. Bold they are but nothing I have said is in error...yet, :) lol
people believe what they want.
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The witnesses will play a very special role in history. I must ask you what makes you think that you are up for the job?

BlueSnail
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Continuous, 3 other witnesses testify to this.

1260 days....witnesses prophesy
1260 days....church in the wilderness
1260 days....reign of the beast
1260 days....Holy city trodden down

these four thing occur at the same time. therefore must be continuous.
 Quoting: daretospeak


Dear daretospeak:

If I may, I'd like to question you on your status. Please, don't write a long answer, if that is ok with you. My questions are simple and to the point.

1) Do you believe that you are one of the witnesses in Revelation 11?

2) Where are you getting your dates for the endtimes, etc, and that Gordon Fox will win the 2012 election? You have said a few bold remarks at this point.

Blessings,
BlueSnail
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1)I am who everyone THINKS I am, for I can not change any ones mind. So to say I am or I am not is futile. I will say that I walk by faith.

2)I have not given dates, of my own, nov 2012 is Americas next presidential election. I calculated fox to be 666, I asked God for Fox's first name, He said Gordon. I knew of no such person at the time, but found him sitting in the house of representitives in Rhode island. Bold they are but nothing I have said is in error...yet, :) lol
people believe what they want.
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The witnesses will play a very special role in history. I must ask you what makes you think that you are up for the job?

BlueSnail
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Never said I was up for the job! But neither were most of Gods other chosen history makers.
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I that live, but Christ now lives in me and the life I live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
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I shall remain here for another 15 mins then I must go to my place of solace.
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I that live, but Christ now lives in me and the life I live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
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The two witnesses are first and foremost prophets; have any here claiming to be such even spoken words regarding future things that came to pass?
 Quoting: Aman 1345623


The two witnesses are first and foremost witnesses, they shall only prophesy for 1260 days.
 Quoting: daretospeak


So, what makes you think those days are continuous?

Could span out over 50 years that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1348496


Continuous, 3 other witnesses testify to this.

1260 days....witnesses prophesy
1260 days....church in the wilderness
1260 days....reign of the beast
1260 days....Holy city trodden down

these four thing occur at the same time. therefore must be continuous.
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Hello,

You forget to show where your contra-biblical so-called rapture fits in?

You also mix up things in being mistaken to believe, without any evidence from Scripture, that the two witnesses and the beast cover the same time period, and that the Holy city is trodden down in that period.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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The two witnesses are first and foremost witnesses, they shall only prophesy for 1260 days.
 Quoting: daretospeak


So, what makes you think those days are continuous?

Could span out over 50 years that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1348496


Continuous, 3 other witnesses testify to this.

1260 days....witnesses prophesy
1260 days....church in the wilderness
1260 days....reign of the beast
1260 days....Holy city trodden down

these four thing occur at the same time. therefore must be continuous.
 Quoting: daretospeak


Hello,

You forget to show where your contra-biblical so-called rapture fits in?

You also mix up things in being mistaken to believe, without any evidence from Scripture, that the two witnesses and the beast cover the same time period, and that the Holy city is trodden down in that period.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


The two witnesses speak against the beast and the beast kills them. In the reign of the beast the Holy city will be down trodden, as well as the church being in the wilderness. doesnt take a genius to see this.

I am not aware of what contra-biblical means, however the rapture will occur when the earth is about to be Judged by fire, God will retrieve His church moments or perhaps a few days before the fire Judgement comes, I would imagine this Judgement will be at the battle of armeggedon.

to say when the rapture occurs is purely speculation for it is not know the day or hour when our Lord Jesus Christ will return.
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I that live, but Christ now lives in me and the life I live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
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2 more minutes then I go for now.
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I that live, but Christ now lives in me and the life I live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
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Hello Daretospeak,

2)I have not given dates, of my own, nov 2012 is Americas next presidential election. I calculated fox to be 666, I asked God for Fox's first name, He said Gordon. I knew of no such person at the time, but found him sitting in the house of representitives in Rhode island. Bold they are but nothing I have said is in error...yet, :) lol
people believe what they want.
 Quoting: daretospeak


Your calculation is wrong for the following reasons:

1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18, so if you are going to use the system you showed earlier you cannot just put in English letters instead of the Greek letters, for the English letters can not be the basis for the Greek letters in which the number of the beast was given. This proves you wrong:

The Greek CHI would be DZETA in your system,
The Greek XI would be MY in your system,
and Greek SIGMA would be SIGMA in your system,

thus revealing that you have with no warrant changed the Greek number CHI-XI-SIGMA (numbers 22, 14, 18) into DZETA-MY-SIGMA (6-12-18), making up a false number of the beast!

Besides, I cannot see how it should be possible to call your mechanical system something that demands WISDOM, which is something else than IQ.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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Hello Daretospeak,

2)I have not given dates, of my own, nov 2012 is Americas next presidential election. I calculated fox to be 666, I asked God for Fox's first name, He said Gordon. I knew of no such person at the time, but found him sitting in the house of representitives in Rhode island. Bold they are but nothing I have said is in error...yet, :) lol
people believe what they want.
 Quoting: daretospeak


Your calculation is wrong for the following reasons:

1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18, so if you are going to use the system you showed earlier you cannot just put in English letters instead of the Greek letters, for the English letters can not be the basis for the Greek letters in which the number of the beast was given. This proves you wrong:

The Greek CHI would be DZETA in your system,
The Greek XI would be MY in your system,
and Greek SIGMA would be SIGMA in your system,

thus revealing that you have with no warrant changed the Greek number CHI-XI-SIGMA (numbers 22, 14, 18) into DZETA-MY-SIGMA (6-12-18), making up a false number of the beast!

Besides, I cannot see how it should be possible to call your mechanical system something that demands WISDOM, which is something else than IQ.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


Sorry I forgot God was only limited to the greek language. Wisdom is knowing that God is God and is to be feared yet you shake your finger at God and say," You must reveal the beast from the greek language, bad God go to your room".
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I that live, but Christ now lives in me and the life I live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
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Hello Daretospeak,

2)I have not given dates, of my own, nov 2012 is Americas next presidential election. I calculated fox to be 666, I asked God for Fox's first name, He said Gordon. I knew of no such person at the time, but found him sitting in the house of representitives in Rhode island. Bold they are but nothing I have said is in error...yet, :) lol
people believe what they want.
 Quoting: daretospeak


Your calculation is wrong for the following reasons:

1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18, so if you are going to use the system you showed earlier you cannot just put in English letters instead of the Greek letters, for the English letters can not be the basis for the Greek letters in which the number of the beast was given. This proves you wrong:

The Greek CHI would be DZETA in your system,
The Greek XI would be MY in your system,
and Greek SIGMA would be SIGMA in your system,

thus revealing that you have with no warrant changed the Greek number CHI-XI-SIGMA (numbers 22, 14, 18) into DZETA-MY-SIGMA (6-12-18), making up a false number of the beast!

Besides, I cannot see how it should be possible to call your mechanical system something that demands WISDOM, which is something else than IQ.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18,

So why does John give the number 666 if chi is 22 xi is 14 sigma is 18

how does this equate to 666?
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I that live, but Christ now lives in me and the life I live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
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Hello Daretospeak,

2)I have not given dates, of my own, nov 2012 is Americas next presidential election. I calculated fox to be 666, I asked God for Fox's first name, He said Gordon. I knew of no such person at the time, but found him sitting in the house of representitives in Rhode island. Bold they are but nothing I have said is in error...yet, :) lol
people believe what they want.
 Quoting: daretospeak


Your calculation is wrong for the following reasons:

1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18, so if you are going to use the system you showed earlier you cannot just put in English letters instead of the Greek letters, for the English letters can not be the basis for the Greek letters in which the number of the beast was given. This proves you wrong:

The Greek CHI would be DZETA in your system,
The Greek XI would be MY in your system,
and Greek SIGMA would be SIGMA in your system,

thus revealing that you have with no warrant changed the Greek number CHI-XI-SIGMA (numbers 22, 14, 18) into DZETA-MY-SIGMA (6-12-18), making up a false number of the beast!

Besides, I cannot see how it should be possible to call your mechanical system something that demands WISDOM, which is something else than IQ.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18,

So why does John give the number 666 if chi is 22 xi is 14 sigma is 18

how does this equate to 666?
 Quoting: daretospeak


If you do not know the meaning of the number than consider that you are not a witness. Keep praying for wisdom and pray that he reveals it to you with compassion.
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Hello Daretospeak,

Well, let me comment from the Bible on what you say:

The two witnesses speak against the beast and the beast kills them. In the reign of the beast the Holy city will be down trodden, as well as the church being in the wilderness. doesnt take a genius to see this.
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My comment:
You twist Holy Scripture, for when the reign of the beast starts the Holy City (the apostolic church) is already downtrodden. This period is given in Rev 13:5. The church's time in the wilderness for 1260 years is something else, which is seen by the fact that the symbolical woman (the church) fled into the wilderness after the coming of the man child. He comes with the sixth seal while the beast comes with the third, fourth, and fifth seal. Doesn't this take a genius (with wisdom, not IQ) to see, since you don't see it?

I am not aware of what contra-biblical means, however the rapture will occur when the earth is about to be Judged by fire, God will retrieve His church moments or perhaps a few days before the fire Judgement comes, I would imagine this Judgement will be at the battle of armeggedon.
 Quoting: daretospeak


My comment:
What you call Armageddon or Fire Judgment takes places in the midst of New Testament time, according to all the prophets. In spite of that Jesus will not return, for he himself says (do you oppose him?) that he will come back in person only on the very last day of the earth's days. Only when he comes back will he raise up the dead, all of them, both ungodly and godly people, to judge them. Your rapture is therefore a fallacy and you yourself a false witness!

to say when the rapture occurs is purely speculation for it is not know the day or hour when our Lord Jesus Christ will return.
 Quoting: daretospeak


My comment:
Even though we do not know the day we certainly know that our Lord comes on the very last day, when all has happened on earth that should happen. You are therefore debunked, and no witness as you seem to claim!

Greetings from
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Hello Daretospeak,

2)I have not given dates, of my own, nov 2012 is Americas next presidential election. I calculated fox to be 666, I asked God for Fox's first name, He said Gordon. I knew of no such person at the time, but found him sitting in the house of representitives in Rhode island. Bold they are but nothing I have said is in error...yet, :) lol
people believe what they want.
 Quoting: daretospeak


Your calculation is wrong for the following reasons:

1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18, so if you are going to use the system you showed earlier you cannot just put in English letters instead of the Greek letters, for the English letters can not be the basis for the Greek letters in which the number of the beast was given. This proves you wrong:

The Greek CHI would be DZETA in your system,
The Greek XI would be MY in your system,
and Greek SIGMA would be SIGMA in your system,

thus revealing that you have with no warrant changed the Greek number CHI-XI-SIGMA (numbers 22, 14, 18) into DZETA-MY-SIGMA (6-12-18), making up a false number of the beast!

Besides, I cannot see how it should be possible to call your mechanical system something that demands WISDOM, which is something else than IQ.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


Sorry I forgot God was only limited to the greek language. Wisdom is knowing that God is God and is to be feared yet you shake your finger at God and say," You must reveal the beast from the greek language, bad God go to your room".
 Quoting: daretospeak



God gave us the original language to test and reveal all who come forth with false claims.

That you change the Greek number given in Rev 13:18 in the Bible has got nothing to do with God's being limited to the Greek language but with your treacherousness in trying to sell a lie to people. That is why you are being debunked!

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Hello Daretospeak,

2)I have not given dates, of my own, nov 2012 is Americas next presidential election. I calculated fox to be 666, I asked God for Fox's first name, He said Gordon. I knew of no such person at the time, but found him sitting in the house of representitives in Rhode island. Bold they are but nothing I have said is in error...yet, :) lol
people believe what they want.
 Quoting: daretospeak


Your calculation is wrong for the following reasons:

1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18, so if you are going to use the system you showed earlier you cannot just put in English letters instead of the Greek letters, for the English letters can not be the basis for the Greek letters in which the number of the beast was given. This proves you wrong:

The Greek CHI would be DZETA in your system,
The Greek XI would be MY in your system,
and Greek SIGMA would be SIGMA in your system,

thus revealing that you have with no warrant changed the Greek number CHI-XI-SIGMA (numbers 22, 14, 18) into DZETA-MY-SIGMA (6-12-18), making up a false number of the beast!

Besides, I cannot see how it should be possible to call your mechanical system something that demands WISDOM, which is something else than IQ.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18,

So why does John give the number 666 if chi is 22 xi is 14 sigma is 18

how does this equate to 666?
 Quoting: daretospeak


Because CHI, XI, and SIGMA make up the number 666 in Greek, given in the Bible itself! That easy it is.

By showing you that the order of Greek letters for the different values given in the Greek text I showed you that your 6-12-18 set-up from English is wrong and false.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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The two witnesses are first and foremost prophets; have any here claiming to be such even spoken words regarding future things that came to pass?
 Quoting: Aman 1345623


TO THE DISTRESS of the NATIONS:

The SIGN of the FINAL 8th KINGDOM that comes from the SEVEN before it. This is that KINGDOM that is RULED by the 1st BEAST of all BEAST'S that comes out of the BOTTOMLESS PIT & shall go into PERDITION. Rev ch 17 vr 8.

The Revelations of JOHN, Servant of the HOLY of HOLIES writes; The now approaching 8th KINGDOM of "THE BEAST" is the one that comes from the SEVEN before it. Rev ch 17 vrs 10-11.

Therefore when you see soft currency about to CRASH without WARNING than you shall see all PRECIOUS METALS increase 7 fold. Unto all the Nations it shall be a time & moment of GREAT PERIL & CHAOS when you see them abandon the soft filthy LUCRE. It is already being announced to those whom follow "THE BEAST". Lo look at the HORDING of what they fill their coffers with & no one shall know until that hour is upon them except for those who know what is WRITTEN. But it too will be for NAUGHT. This is that SIGN that you might know that the 1st BEAST is waiting to be released from the BOTTOMLESS PIT for a SHORT SEASON.

Woa,Woa & another WOA unto those who dwell upon the earth, know that, that hour is at hand & SHALL SHORTLY COME TO PASS & only the FATHER can deliver you in your hour of GREAT DISTRESS. He who seeks the Kingdom of the HOLY of HOLIES by HIS COVENANT of the promised LAMB are SEALED by HIS SEAL & HE will deliver them from that GREAT DISTRESS.
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Hello Daretospeak,

2)I have not given dates, of my own, nov 2012 is Americas next presidential election. I calculated fox to be 666, I asked God for Fox's first name, He said Gordon. I knew of no such person at the time, but found him sitting in the house of representitives in Rhode island. Bold they are but nothing I have said is in error...yet, :) lol
people believe what they want.
 Quoting: daretospeak


Your calculation is wrong for the following reasons:

1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18, so if you are going to use the system you showed earlier you cannot just put in English letters instead of the Greek letters, for the English letters can not be the basis for the Greek letters in which the number of the beast was given. This proves you wrong:

The Greek CHI would be DZETA in your system,
The Greek XI would be MY in your system,
and Greek SIGMA would be SIGMA in your system,

thus revealing that you have with no warrant changed the Greek number CHI-XI-SIGMA (numbers 22, 14, 18) into DZETA-MY-SIGMA (6-12-18), making up a false number of the beast!

Besides, I cannot see how it should be possible to call your mechanical system something that demands WISDOM, which is something else than IQ.

Greetings from
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 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


Sorry I forgot God was only limited to the greek language. Wisdom is knowing that God is God and is to be feared yet you shake your finger at God and say," You must reveal the beast from the greek language, bad God go to your room".
 Quoting: daretospeak



God gave us the original language to test and reveal all who come forth with false claims.

That you change the Greek number given in Rev 13:18 in the Bible has got nothing to do with God's being limited to the Greek language but with your treacherousness in trying to sell a lie to people. That is why you are being debunked!

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God gave us the original language to test and reveal all who come forth with false claims.

Prove it!!! nothing you have said has debunked me, for you yourself have minimal understanding in liberty. You will need to do much much better than that to disprove anything I say. You place defence on your own misguided letter of the law. My claim is not false, fox equates to 666, God said Gordon when I asked, and Gordon Fox happens to be running for presidency in 2012,

WHERE is my false claim? How can you disprove this? You can not!
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Hello Daretospeak,

2)I have not given dates, of my own, nov 2012 is Americas next presidential election. I calculated fox to be 666, I asked God for Fox's first name, He said Gordon. I knew of no such person at the time, but found him sitting in the house of representitives in Rhode island. Bold they are but nothing I have said is in error...yet, :) lol
people believe what they want.
 Quoting: daretospeak


Your calculation is wrong for the following reasons:

1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18, so if you are going to use the system you showed earlier you cannot just put in English letters instead of the Greek letters, for the English letters can not be the basis for the Greek letters in which the number of the beast was given. This proves you wrong:

The Greek CHI would be DZETA in your system,
The Greek XI would be MY in your system,
and Greek SIGMA would be SIGMA in your system,

thus revealing that you have with no warrant changed the Greek number CHI-XI-SIGMA (numbers 22, 14, 18) into DZETA-MY-SIGMA (6-12-18), making up a false number of the beast!

Besides, I cannot see how it should be possible to call your mechanical system something that demands WISDOM, which is something else than IQ.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18,

So why does John give the number 666 if chi is 22 xi is 14 sigma is 18

how does this equate to 666?
 Quoting: daretospeak


Because CHI, XI, and SIGMA make up the number 666 in Greek, given in the Bible itself! That easy it is.

By showing you that the order of Greek letters for the different values given in the Greek text I showed you that your 6-12-18 set-up from English is wrong and false.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


But it is not 6, 12 and 18 it is 6, 15 and 24

I never said 6, 12, 18...YOU DID!!! F is the 6th letter of the english alphabet, O is the 15 letter, and X is the 24th

Where do you get 6 12 and 18?

certainly not from me.
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The two witnesses are first and foremost prophets; have any here claiming to be such even spoken words regarding future things that came to pass?
 Quoting: Aman 1345623


TO THE DISTRESS of the NATIONS:

The SIGN of the FINAL 8th KINGDOM that comes from the SEVEN before it. This is that KINGDOM that is RULED by the 1st BEAST of all BEAST'S that comes out of the BOTTOMLESS PIT & shall go into PERDITION. Rev ch 17 vr 8.

The Revelations of JOHN, Servant of the HOLY of HOLIES writes; The now approaching 8th KINGDOM of "THE BEAST" is the one that comes from the SEVEN before it. Rev ch 17 vrs 10-11.

Therefore when you see soft currency about to CRASH without WARNING than you shall see all PRECIOUS METALS increase 7 fold. Unto all the Nations it shall be a time & moment of GREAT PERIL & CHAOS when you see them abandon the soft filthy LUCRE. It is already being announced to those whom follow "THE BEAST". Lo look at the HORDING of what they fill their coffers with & no one shall know until that hour is upon them except for those who know what is WRITTEN. But it too will be for NAUGHT. This is that SIGN that you might know that the 1st BEAST is waiting to be released from the BOTTOMLESS PIT for a SHORT SEASON.

Woa,Woa & another WOA unto those who dwell upon the earth, know that, that hour is at hand & SHALL SHORTLY COME TO PASS & only the FATHER can deliver you in your hour of GREAT DISTRESS. He who seeks the Kingdom of the HOLY of HOLIES by HIS COVENANT of the promised LAMB are SEALED by HIS SEAL & HE will deliver them from that GREAT DISTRESS.
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There shall be no other WARNING! So be not caught unaware & receive the ANOINTING of HIS REDEEMING HOLY SPIRIT of HIS LAMB that has REDEEMED the SOULS of men who know & call out to him. Be watchful for this shall surely come to pass & do not let your hearts be troubled.
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Michio Kaku, false prophet???
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Hello Daretospeak,

...


Your calculation is wrong for the following reasons:

1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18, so if you are going to use the system you showed earlier you cannot just put in English letters instead of the Greek letters, for the English letters can not be the basis for the Greek letters in which the number of the beast was given. This proves you wrong:

The Greek CHI would be DZETA in your system,
The Greek XI would be MY in your system,
and Greek SIGMA would be SIGMA in your system,

thus revealing that you have with no warrant changed the Greek number CHI-XI-SIGMA (numbers 22, 14, 18) into DZETA-MY-SIGMA (6-12-18), making up a false number of the beast!

Besides, I cannot see how it should be possible to call your mechanical system something that demands WISDOM, which is something else than IQ.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18,

So why does John give the number 666 if chi is 22 xi is 14 sigma is 18

how does this equate to 666?
 Quoting: daretospeak


Because CHI, XI, and SIGMA make up the number 666 in Greek, given in the Bible itself! That easy it is.

By showing you that the order of Greek letters for the different values given in the Greek text I showed you that your 6-12-18 set-up from English is wrong and false.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


But it is not 6, 12 and 18 it is 6, 15 and 24

I never said 6, 12, 18...YOU DID!!! F is the 6th letter of the english alphabet, O is the 15 letter, and X is the 24th

Where do you get 6 12 and 18?

certainly not from me.
 Quoting: daretospeak


You did it yourself, first putting fort the numbers and then the English letters underneath. Then you read the name vertically, starting with f. So, that is your own system, not mine.

By they way, the order of the Greek letters is what matters not the English letters, so you are wrong no matter what you say!

Your failure is that you use English letters to change the given Greek letters in Rev 13:18, as I have shown, and that you have no reason for.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18,

So why does John give the number 666 if chi is 22 xi is 14 sigma is 18

how does this equate to 666?
 Quoting: daretospeak


Because CHI, XI, and SIGMA make up the number 666 in Greek, given in the Bible itself! That easy it is.

By showing you that the order of Greek letters for the different values given in the Greek text I showed you that your 6-12-18 set-up from English is wrong and false.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


But it is not 6, 12 and 18 it is 6, 15 and 24

I never said 6, 12, 18...YOU DID!!! F is the 6th letter of the english alphabet, O is the 15 letter, and X is the 24th

Where do you get 6 12 and 18?

certainly not from me.
 Quoting: daretospeak


You did it yourself, first putting fort the numbers and then the English letters underneath. Then you read the name vertically, starting with f. So, that is your own system, not mine.

By they way, the order of the Greek letters is what matters not the English letters, so you are wrong no matter what you say!

Your failure is that you use English letters to change the given Greek letters in Rev 13:18, as I have shown, and that you have no reason for.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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My reason that you are unable to hear, is simply God, at the time of John receiving revalations, allowed for the fact that the dominating language of the end times generation will be english, and therfore allowed the translation from greek to english so that those with wisdom and understanding, (which you appear to lack), can discover the identity of the AC, for if the translation to english was not accounted for by God when giving revalation to John, then it would be only possible for those who know the greek language to figure it out. THIS IS PARTIALITY FOR WHICH THERE IS NONE WITH GOD, English language dominates the globe and is therfore the most likely language for the number of the beast to be revealed in. However perhaps you need to calculate the name GORDON FOX for yourself and tell me what you discover.
Galatians 2:20 I have been crucified with Christ, it is no longer I that live, but Christ now lives in me and the life I live in the flesh, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
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Hello Daretospeak,

...


Your calculation is wrong for the following reasons:

1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18, so if you are going to use the system you showed earlier you cannot just put in English letters instead of the Greek letters, for the English letters can not be the basis for the Greek letters in which the number of the beast was given. This proves you wrong:

The Greek CHI would be DZETA in your system,
The Greek XI would be MY in your system,
and Greek SIGMA would be SIGMA in your system,

thus revealing that you have with no warrant changed the Greek number CHI-XI-SIGMA (numbers 22, 14, 18) into DZETA-MY-SIGMA (6-12-18), making up a false number of the beast!

Besides, I cannot see how it should be possible to call your mechanical system something that demands WISDOM, which is something else than IQ.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18,

So why does John give the number 666 if chi is 22 xi is 14 sigma is 18

how does this equate to 666?
 Quoting: daretospeak


Because CHI, XI, and SIGMA make up the number 666 in Greek, given in the Bible itself! That easy it is.

By showing you that the order of Greek letters for the different values given in the Greek text I showed you that your 6-12-18 set-up from English is wrong and false.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


But it is not 6, 12 and 18 it is 6, 15 and 24

I never said 6, 12, 18...YOU DID!!! F is the 6th letter of the english alphabet, O is the 15 letter, and X is the 24th

Where do you get 6 12 and 18?

certainly not from me.
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Hello,

The first letter in the Greek number of the beast is CHI, and that letter is not the sixth letter but the 22nd letter of the alphabet, so why did you not choose the 22nd letter of the English alphabet instead of the sixth, in accordance with Greek as far as number of order is concerned?

By the way, do you understand Greek?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18,

So why does John give the number 666 if chi is 22 xi is 14 sigma is 18

how does this equate to 666?
 Quoting: daretospeak


Because CHI, XI, and SIGMA make up the number 666 in Greek, given in the Bible itself! That easy it is.

By showing you that the order of Greek letters for the different values given in the Greek text I showed you that your 6-12-18 set-up from English is wrong and false.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


But it is not 6, 12 and 18 it is 6, 15 and 24

I never said 6, 12, 18...YOU DID!!! F is the 6th letter of the english alphabet, O is the 15 letter, and X is the 24th

Where do you get 6 12 and 18?

certainly not from me.
 Quoting: daretospeak


You did it yourself, first putting fort the numbers and then the English letters underneath. Then you read the name vertically, starting with f. So, that is your own system, not mine.

By they way, the order of the Greek letters is what matters not the English letters, so you are wrong no matter what you say!

Your failure is that you use English letters to change the given Greek letters in Rev 13:18, as I have shown, and that you have no reason for.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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123456789
abcdefghi
jklmnopqr
stuvwxyz

f is the 6th letter
o is the 15th letter
x is the 24th letter

count them for they are not 6 12 or 18.
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1) The number of the beast are given in the Greek letters, namely CHI, number 22, XI, number 14, and SIGMA, number 18,

So why does John give the number 666 if chi is 22 xi is 14 sigma is 18

how does this equate to 666?
 Quoting: daretospeak


Because CHI, XI, and SIGMA make up the number 666 in Greek, given in the Bible itself! That easy it is.

By showing you that the order of Greek letters for the different values given in the Greek text I showed you that your 6-12-18 set-up from English is wrong and false.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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But it is not 6, 12 and 18 it is 6, 15 and 24

I never said 6, 12, 18...YOU DID!!! F is the 6th letter of the english alphabet, O is the 15 letter, and X is the 24th

Where do you get 6 12 and 18?

certainly not from me.
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Hello,

The first letter in the Greek number of the beast is CHI, and that letter is not the sixth letter but the 22nd letter of the alphabet, so why did you not choose the 22nd letter of the English alphabet instead of the sixth, in accordance with Greek as far as number of order is concerned?

By the way, do you understand Greek?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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In english the first number is six and the second number is six and the third number is six 666 is the english interpretation, so apply that to the english alphabet and you get FOX, no i do not understand greek. I understand mysteries.
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And above the firmament that [was] over their heads [was] the likeness of a throne, as the appearance of a sapphire stone: and upon the likeness of the throne [was] the likeness as the appearance of a man above upon it. And I saw as the colour of amber, as the appearance of fire round about within it, from the appearance of his loins even upward, and from the appearance of his loins even downward, I saw as it were the appearance of fire, and it had brightness round about. As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so [was] the appearance of the brightness round about. This [was] the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw [it], I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.
 Quoting: Aman


Aman:

Ok, you want to leave the family alone? I can live with that. This what you wrote above doesn't make any sense. Can you explain it some?

1) Did this happen to you?

2) Where was it?

3) When did it happen?

4) With what regard did this happen?

Blessings,
BlueSnail
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you are all full of questions... but first let me ask you one.

what do you think this scripture is referring to?

i know, it is the likeness of the glory of the god of israel as ezekiel says, but why do you suppose this description has been recorded and given down through the ages?
 Quoting: Aman



You made it sound like this happened to you. I am not familiar with this writing, wherever it came from.

BlueSnail
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perhaps then, your eyes are not as open as you think.
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To anyone who believes that they are 'chosen to witness' on this forum or elsewhere, I would just ask you to consider in whose name you speak, and on whose authority? I have heard much of your own names, which would seem to me to be quite irrelevant in light of the magnitude of the name in which you are called to testify... your humility is, well, lacking in the face of eternity.

What is this word that you are called to deliver in the name of He Whose Name is Eternal...? You will be judged by every word that comes out of your mouth, you know; have you given every one great thought, and if so, do you understand that our thoughts can never be His thoughts? What is the word that you would speak?

The sacrifices of 'God' are a contrite spirit, and a broken heart... have you called anyone to sacrifice on behalf of our many sins, which might serve to recommend our selves to His mercy and love? For these are the only things that you can rightly count on now... justice would condemn the most of you. If you do not come in the name of 'Love,' for all, it might be best for you to hold your tongue.

It is written that there will be false shepherds, and what will they do but lead astray...? Pray that you be not one of these.
"Come, my friend! let us go forth into the field; let us spend the night in the villages;

Let us get up early to the vineyards; let us see if the vine have blossomed, whether the grapes have opened (to the view), whether the pomegranates have budded: there will I give my caresses unto thee.

The mandrakes give forth (their) smell, and at our doors are all manner of precious fruits, new and also old: O my friend! these have I laid up for thee. --Song of Songs
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Because CHI, XI, and SIGMA make up the number 666 in Greek, given in the Bible itself! That easy it is.

By showing you that the order of Greek letters for the different values given in the Greek text I showed you that your 6-12-18 set-up from English is wrong and false.

Greetings from
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 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349837


But it is not 6, 12 and 18 it is 6, 15 and 24

I never said 6, 12, 18...YOU DID!!! F is the 6th letter of the english alphabet, O is the 15 letter, and X is the 24th

Where do you get 6 12 and 18?

certainly not from me.
 Quoting: daretospeak


You did it yourself, first putting fort the numbers and then the English letters underneath. Then you read the name vertically, starting with f. So, that is your own system, not mine.

By they way, the order of the Greek letters is what matters not the English letters, so you are wrong no matter what you say!

Your failure is that you use English letters to change the given Greek letters in Rev 13:18, as I have shown, and that you have no reason for.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 1349962


My reason that you are unable to hear, is simply God, at the time of John receiving revalations, allowed for the fact that the dominating language of the end times generation will be english, and therfore allowed the translation from greek to english so that those with wisdom and understanding, (which you appear to lack), can discover the identity of the AC, for if the translation to english was not accounted for by God when giving revalation to John, then it would be only possible for those who know the greek language to figure it out. THIS IS PARTIALITY FOR WHICH THERE IS NONE WITH GOD, English language dominates the globe and is therfore the most likely language for the number of the beast to be revealed in. However perhaps you need to calculate the name GORDON FOX for yourself and tell me what you discover.
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Hello Daretospeak,
You are just dumb, a person who do not pay heed to what Scripture tells us, namely that the Antichrist is no one person but all those who spread false doctrine under the pretext of being true Christians. Read 2 John 7 and learn your lesson.

As regards the calculation of the number of the beast, I could easily show the secret of that calculation. In that calculation are used numbers from the Bible itself and no made-up numbers like yours.

Poor you, the number of the beast was revealed long before the English language existed, so your argumentation is just lame. There is no evidence whatsoever in Scripture that its numbers should be understood in the light of a language still to come!

What if God starts giving Chinese prominence as the main language of the world through China's steadily increasing growth both economically and militarily. And nobody knows if the everlasting gospel will be spread in the future by the medium of Chinese. So stop your nationalistic way of thinking at the cost of the original language!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah





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