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I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

 
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" This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666. "

Revelation 13:18

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.”

Revelations 14:1

144,000/666= 216.2162162162162
144,000/216= 666.6666666666667

That leaves the odd 2 and 7, which when subtracted, leaves 5, which is how many times 216 is repeated in the division of 144,000/666.

216*5 = 1080, which is a multiple of cube root 27, 27*40=1080

360*3=1080

27 is a perfect cube , 3^3, or 3*3*3 = 27

27 letters in the Hebrew language, 22 basic letters of the Hebrew alphabet and the 5 final forms.

Plotted on a cube and split in 3 reveals hidden center letter, Nun, 111

[link to www.meetingtent.com]

In almost all Christian traditions today, the New Testament consists of 27 books
Pythagoras and Plato say that the number 3 in the cubed (i.e. 27) and number 2 in the cubed (i.e., 8) represent the Cosmos.

In the Kabbalah there are 27 letters, corresponding to 27 channels of communication with God and 27 combinations of the names of God and - 13 overt and 14 covert.

1080 is the gematria value of my full name, coincidentally.

coffee4
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The mass delusion is already been happening. One example you guys know about is the Sabbath issue.

There are sooo many things we are doing wrong there are innumerable. God is merciful though.

Isaiah warned Israel before the Assyrians came. He said right it from the beginning of his book. We were warned during 9-11.



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" This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666. "

Revelation 13:18

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.”

Revelations 14:1

144,000/666= 216.2162162162162
144,000/216= 666.6666666666667

That leaves the odd 2 and 7, which when subtracted, leaves 5, which is how many times 216 is repeated in the division of 144,000/666.

216*5 = 1080, which is a multiple of cube root 27, 27*40=1080

360*3=1080

27 is a perfect cube , 3^3, or 3*3*3 = 27

27 letters in the Hebrew language, 22 basic letters of the Hebrew alphabet and the 5 final forms.

Plotted on a cube and split in 3 reveals hidden center letter, Nun, 111

[link to www.meetingtent.com]

In almost all Christian traditions today, the New Testament consists of 27 books
Pythagoras and Plato say that the number 3 in the cubed (i.e. 27) and number 2 in the cubed (i.e., 8) represent the Cosmos.

In the Kabbalah there are 27 letters, corresponding to 27 channels of communication with God and 27 combinations of the names of God and - 13 overt and 14 covert.

1080 is the gematria value of my full name, coincidentally.

coffee4
 Quoting: !saac


your getting closer.....

333,666,999

all are linked

27 = 9x3

27 X 37 = 999 (my number)

999 is found in my name and was given to me as a key on my 18th (9) birthday that was on a day that reduced to... 9.

If you like numbers check this out: I found this message using 999 as a key.

The Numbers 333,666, and 999 are important and are in the Bible but 999 is hidden. The oldest and therefore purest NT writings is the Greek bible (most of the NT was written in Greek) Bible numerology is referred to as Gematria which gives each letter a value the total value of the word and sentence are linked. No verse in the Greek bible has a value of 999, and only four words do, in order of 1st appearance (and their translations) they are;

Endoxos = glorious Luke7:25
Apoluo = release John 19:12
Diaphero= be Act 13:49
Plero= Fulfil Gal 5:14

(www.biblewheel.com)

Just one of the many hidden messages within the Bible, and just one of the messages the 999 key has unlocked.
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" This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666. "

Revelation 13:18

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.”

Revelations 14:1

144,000/666= 216.2162162162162
144,000/216= 666.6666666666667

That leaves the odd 2 and 7, which when subtracted, leaves 5, which is how many times 216 is repeated in the division of 144,000/666.

216*5 = 1080, which is a multiple of cube root 27, 27*40=1080

360*3=1080

27 is a perfect cube , 3^3, or 3*3*3 = 27

27 letters in the Hebrew language, 22 basic letters of the Hebrew alphabet and the 5 final forms.

Plotted on a cube and split in 3 reveals hidden center letter, Nun, 111

[link to www.meetingtent.com]

In almost all Christian traditions today, the New Testament consists of 27 books
Pythagoras and Plato say that the number 3 in the cubed (i.e. 27) and number 2 in the cubed (i.e., 8) represent the Cosmos.

In the Kabbalah there are 27 letters, corresponding to 27 channels of communication with God and 27 combinations of the names of God and - 13 overt and 14 covert.

1080 is the gematria value of my full name, coincidentally.

coffee4
 Quoting: !saac


your getting closer.....

333,666,999

all are linked

27 = 9x3

27 X 37 = 999 (my number)

999 is found in my name and was given to me as a key on my 18th (9) birthday that was on a day that reduced to... 9.

If you like numbers check this out: I found this message using 999 as a key.

The Numbers 333,666, and 999 are important and are in the Bible but 999 is hidden. The oldest and therefore purest NT writings is the Greek bible (most of the NT was written in Greek) Bible numerology is referred to as Gematria which gives each letter a value the total value of the word and sentence are linked. No verse in the Greek bible has a value of 999, and only four words do, in order of 1st appearance (and their translations) they are;

Endoxos = glorious Luke7:25
Apoluo = release John 19:12
Diaphero= be Act 13:49
Plero= Fulfil Gal 5:14

(www.biblewheel.com)

Just one of the many hidden messages within the Bible, and just one of the messages the 999 key has unlocked.
 Quoting: MURK9


Neato

Biblewheel is a cool site.
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Thank you,

For your support! As you know, mockers will end up in the bad bin evetually.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 18562860


You have a point to make to me about something ?
 Quoting: !saac


Obama, Obama, Obama

How can you put right which has been deeply wrong for centuries, no, you cannot, for iniquity is so ingrained that even the devils think themselves to be righteous!

God is going to speak to you, USA, and the voice will be very feeble in your thought, but still it will be shown to you to be the true voice of God.

Then you will hear the last warning for you to hear before the Lord steps forward in His Majesty. You will take more strokes than you have already, whatever you think, for the voice of God's witness tells you it, as it also was told you before you experienced what you have already experienced.

The Lord will step forward to be your last resource, for you to care about it, but when you see it only a few will be rescued.

Why do you wait, why do you not better your ways, why do you not become what existence demands of you, i.e. what God demands of you? Why do you want to stay blind and die an awesome death instead of being seeing people and God's friends. The friends of His two witnesses, the one of who I am indeed, am here telling the truth. Love us and live, or hate us and die, for the rule is totally God's and laid down from the morning of times!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
the orphan of the Tabernacle.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 18562860





Never mind I understand PJ. The stumbling blocks are removed are they not? It's a darn shame they didn't listen.


Blessings to you
 Quoting: dschis1000


Dear you,

Without seeing the reason why there is a need in our days to listen and, furthermore, to remain silent at the same time, as given for mankind to see in the Bible, there will be no understanding.

Only when oneself is struck in unexpected ways one will start wondering and even thinking about what is happening.

The stumbling blocks are still there but will be removed, though only after a fierce battle both in the spiritual realm and the material and visible world.

When that battle is over, the world will go on but without the sea, i.e. without the suppression of falsehood. What the sea symbolizes in Scripture is revealed in Isa 57:20:

But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.
 Quoting: The Bible


Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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" This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666. "

Revelation 13:18

“And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him a hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.”

Revelations 14:1

144,000/666= 216.2162162162162
144,000/216= 666.6666666666667

That leaves the odd 2 and 7, which when subtracted, leaves 5, which is how many times 216 is repeated in the division of 144,000/666.

216*5 = 1080, which is a multiple of cube root 27, 27*40=1080

360*3=1080

27 is a perfect cube , 3^3, or 3*3*3 = 27

27 letters in the Hebrew language, 22 basic letters of the Hebrew alphabet and the 5 final forms.

Plotted on a cube and split in 3 reveals hidden center letter, Nun, 111

[link to www.meetingtent.com]

In almost all Christian traditions today, the New Testament consists of 27 books
Pythagoras and Plato say that the number 3 in the cubed (i.e. 27) and number 2 in the cubed (i.e., 8) represent the Cosmos.

In the Kabbalah there are 27 letters, corresponding to 27 channels of communication with God and 27 combinations of the names of God and - 13 overt and 14 covert.

1080 is the gematria value of my full name, coincidentally.

coffee4
 Quoting: !saac


Listen,

Your being possessed by numerology is no good, for by abandoning yourself to suchlike superstitions you become the victim of evil spirits and people.

The way of truth is nothing like that, so, for your own security, believe me when I tell you that among the Devil's ways of deceiving people is numerology!

Keep yourself to the words of the Bible and stay safe!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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You have a point to make to me about something ?
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Obama, Obama, Obama

How can you put right which has been deeply wrong for centuries, no, you cannot, for iniquity is so ingrained that even the devils think themselves to be righteous!

God is going to speak to you, USA, and the voice will be very feeble in your thought, but still it will be shown to you to be the true voice of God.

Then you will hear the last warning for you to hear before the Lord steps forward in His Majesty. You will take more strokes than you have already, whatever you think, for the voice of God's witness tells you it, as it also was told you before you experienced what you have already experienced.

The Lord will step forward to be your last resource, for you to care about it, but when you see it only a few will be rescued.

Why do you wait, why do you not better your ways, why do you not become what existence demands of you, i.e. what God demands of you? Why do you want to stay blind and die an awesome death instead of being seeing people and God's friends. The friends of His two witnesses, the one of who I am indeed, am here telling the truth. Love us and live, or hate us and die, for the rule is totally God's and laid down from the morning of times!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
the orphan of the Tabernacle.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 18562860





Never mind I understand PJ. The stumbling blocks are removed are they not? It's a darn shame they didn't listen.


Blessings to you
 Quoting: dschis1000


Dear you,

Without seeing the reason why there is a need in our days to listen and, furthermore, to remain silent at the same time, as given for mankind to see in the Bible, there will be no understanding.

Only when oneself is struck in unexpected ways one will start wondering and even thinking about what is happening.

The stumbling blocks are still there but will be removed, though only after a fierce battle both in the spiritual realm and the material and visible world.

When that battle is over, the world will go on but without the sea, i.e. without the suppression of falsehood. What the sea symbolizes in Scripture is revealed in Isa 57:20:

But the wicked are like the troubled sea, when it cannot rest, whose waters cast up mire and dirt.
 Quoting: The Bible


Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 27252992



You're right! I did mean an ongoing basis. I forgot to insert being before the removed.


GOOD One!

Yes, the blocks are being removed indeed.

I love Isa 57


13 When you cry, let your gathering deliver you; but the wind shall carry them all away. Vanity shall take them; but he who puts his trust in Me shall possess the land, and shall inherit My holy mountain. 14 And He shall say, Raise up! Raise up! Clear the way! Make the stumbling-block rise out of the way of My people. 15 For so says the high and lofty One who inhabits eternity; whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, even with the contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones. 16 For I will not contend forever, nor will I be always angry; for the spirit should fail before Me, and the souls I have made.

17 For the iniquity of his covetousness I was angry and struck him; I hid Myself, and was angry, and he went on turning away in the way of his heart. 18 I have seen his ways, and will heal him. I will also lead him, and restore comforts to him and to his mourners. 19 I create the fruit of the lips; peace, peace, to him far off, and to him near, says the LORD; and I will heal him. 20 But the wicked are like the troubled sea, which cannot rest, and its waters cast up mire and dirt. 21 There is no peace, says my God, to the wicked.
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Dear you,

I will now reveal to the whole world that there are people now living in USA whose parents, grandparents or even grand-grandparents were told and believed in the doctrine that I, though an unworthy person, propagate on the net from the northern country in accordance to the Bible's prophecies. When and if these people read my words they will for sure realize things that they heard about it while a child or youngster, for from the west (USA) God started this His work. He started gathering from the west, as Scripture reveals.

When I say this I must cry in front of reality, since the times to come will prove my words through harsh times.

I am not the first one to tell you the truth, for the truth started its work in USA and then moved its chair to the north country, where I, as the lousiest one, was called to listen and believe that the Lord Almighty spoke to me, by wonders and through several other people.

There are now people here in Norway who believe in what I have said and still say to them on the firm basis of Scripture, so now I am no longer their teacher as I used to be but Scripture and the spirit of God alone, whereto I have referred them to.

I never demanded money from them for it, not even received money from them, for if I had, I would be no true witness of God.

I am the Lord's true witness, and I beg your pardon for having to say it, for since the Lord called me I must comply with His will, or, else, die an eternal death. Who can resist the power of the most Sovereign Power of existence, our creator, or oppose His will like the Devil did? I am no devil but just a truth-speaking simple person, so therefore I speak the truth.

May God protect you all, for there is no one for us to lose, no brother or sister, for our wish is to see the everlasting happiness shine forth in as many eyes and from as many hearts as possible. Do you feel the same, dear human being?

With a feeling of hope for you!

PehJeshuah
The orphan of the tabernacle
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Dear you,

I will now reveal to the whole world that there are people now living in USA whose parents, grandparents or even grand-grandparents were told and believed in the doctrine that I, though an unworthy person, propagate on the net from the northern country in accordance to the Bible's prophecies. When and if these people read my words they will for sure realize things that they heard about it while a child or youngster, for from the west (USA) God started this His work. He started gathering from the west, as Scripture reveals.

When I say this I must cry in front of reality, since the times to come will prove my words through harsh times.

I am not the first one to tell you the truth, for the truth started its work in USA and then moved its chair to the north country, where I, as the lousiest one, was called to listen and believe that the Lord Almighty spoke to me, by wonders and through several other people.

There are now people here in Norway who believe in what I have said and still say to them on the firm basis of Scripture, so now I am no longer their teacher as I used to be but Scripture and the spirit of God alone, whereto I have referred them to.

I never demanded money from them for it, not even received money from them, for if I had, I would be no true witness of God.

I am the Lord's true witness, and I beg your pardon for having to say it, for since the Lord called me I must comply with His will, or, else, die an eternal death. Who can resist the power of the most Sovereign Power of existence, our creator, or oppose His will like the Devil did? I am no devil but just a truth-speaking simple person, so therefore I speak the truth.

May God protect you all, for there is no one for us to lose, no brother or sister, for our wish is to see the everlasting happiness shine forth in as many eyes and from as many hearts as possible. Do you feel the same, dear human being?

With a feeling of hope for you!

PehJeshuah
The orphan of the tabernacle
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 27252992


If any of you people referred to, being in USA, read this, I will ask you if you ever heard the words "Judgment trumpet" or "Domsbasunen" (as it was called in Norwegian)?

If you ever heard it or remember it from your parents etc. you will know that it has been foretold to you that there would come two people to you who speak the truth, and that your heart would be enlighted and filled with joy.

Now you hear the voice of one of those two people, so do look. therefore, into these things and be convinced that it all has been brought about by God, our Lord Almighty, as foretold!

God is now fighting falsehood, for our freedom and joy!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
En hilsen fra Guds "TVENDE VIDNER"
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Dear you,

I will now reveal to the whole world that there are people now living in USA whose parents, grandparents or even grand-grandparents were told and believed in the doctrine that I, though an unworthy person, propagate on the net from the northern country in accordance to the Bible's prophecies. When and if these people read my words they will for sure realize things that they heard about it while a child or youngster, for from the west (USA) God started this His work. He started gathering from the west, as Scripture reveals.

When I say this I must cry in front of reality, since the times to come will prove my words through harsh times.

I am not the first one to tell you the truth, for the truth started its work in USA and then moved its chair to the north country, where I, as the lousiest one, was called to listen and believe that the Lord Almighty spoke to me, by wonders and through several other people.

There are now people here in Norway who believe in what I have said and still say to them on the firm basis of Scripture, so now I am no longer their teacher as I used to be but Scripture and the spirit of God alone, whereto I have referred them to.

I never demanded money from them for it, not even received money from them, for if I had, I would be no true witness of God.

I am the Lord's true witness, and I beg your pardon for having to say it, for since the Lord called me I must comply with His will, or, else, die an eternal death. Who can resist the power of the most Sovereign Power of existence, our creator, or oppose His will like the Devil did? I am no devil but just a truth-speaking simple person, so therefore I speak the truth.

May God protect you all, for there is no one for us to lose, no brother or sister, for our wish is to see the everlasting happiness shine forth in as many eyes and from as many hearts as possible. Do you feel the same, dear human being?

With a feeling of hope for you!

PehJeshuah
The orphan of the tabernacle
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 27252992


As I watched the storm that was called Sandy form in the ocean. I knew that it was in fact a judgment just as "Isaac" was. Just as the BP disaster and it's ongoing ramifications was/is a judgment.

Perhaps it's a bit more. A removal of an entity that has/will attempt to stand in the way of our Father's plans.

Yes, I remember the doctrine of the trumps.

May the Heavenly Father continue to bless you and the other one.

David

PS Speaking in your native language now? Had me for a second, Norwegian is close enough to German and older English to figure it out. Google translate helped too
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Dear you,

I will now reveal to the whole world that there are people now living in USA whose parents, grandparents or even grand-grandparents were told and believed in the doctrine that I, though an unworthy person, propagate on the net from the northern country in accordance to the Bible's prophecies. When and if these people read my words they will for sure realize things that they heard about it while a child or youngster, for from the west (USA) God started this His work. He started gathering from the west, as Scripture reveals.

When I say this I must cry in front of reality, since the times to come will prove my words through harsh times.

I am not the first one to tell you the truth, for the truth started its work in USA and then moved its chair to the north country, where I, as the lousiest one, was called to listen and believe that the Lord Almighty spoke to me, by wonders and through several other people.

There are now people here in Norway who believe in what I have said and still say to them on the firm basis of Scripture, so now I am no longer their teacher as I used to be but Scripture and the spirit of God alone, whereto I have referred them to.

I never demanded money from them for it, not even received money from them, for if I had, I would be no true witness of God.

I am the Lord's true witness, and I beg your pardon for having to say it, for since the Lord called me I must comply with His will, or, else, die an eternal death. Who can resist the power of the most Sovereign Power of existence, our creator, or oppose His will like the Devil did? I am no devil but just a truth-speaking simple person, so therefore I speak the truth.

May God protect you all, for there is no one for us to lose, no brother or sister, for our wish is to see the everlasting happiness shine forth in as many eyes and from as many hearts as possible. Do you feel the same, dear human being?

With a feeling of hope for you!

PehJeshuah
The orphan of the tabernacle
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 27252992


As I watched the storm that was called Sandy form in the ocean. I knew that it was in fact a judgment just as "Isaac" was. Just as the BP disaster and it's ongoing ramifications was/is a judgment.

Perhaps it's a bit more. A removal of an entity that has/will attempt to stand in the way of our Father's plans.

Yes, I remember the doctrine of the trumps.

May the Heavenly Father continue to bless you and the other one.

David

PS Speaking in your native language now? Had me for a second, Norwegian is close enough to German and older English to figure it out. Google translate helped too
 Quoting: dschis1000


Dear you,

I love all the tongues of the world, of humanity, and would be happy if we together could agree to honour them and preserve them, every single one.

My main tongue is Norwegian, yes, in a way, since I learnt it first to some degree, but my heart langugage is Saami, the language in which my mother spoke to me with proficiency.

When we lived on the coast of North-Norway it was ingrained in the Saami people's mind through norwegianization that Norwegian was the language with any future, not the Saami, which was even forbidden in the school yard. Therefore, even my poor my, who was an analphabet because of the consequences of WWII, had not the chance to learn to read and write in her own language, which she always had wanted to, and in which she was surperb, making me into today's specialist interpreter and translator of her language.

This said, the text that I wrote at the end of my former post is in today's Norwegian as spoken today, but what were in the quotes is what we call Danish-Norwegian (more Danish than Norwegian). It is more Danish since in Danish TVENDE means "two" and VIDNER means "witnesses". The word FRA (in both Danish and Norwegian) is the same as the English "from". As you possibly know the English language came into existence at first because the Norse-speaking Vikings and the Anglo-Saxons had to accomodate their respective languages to each other.

Greetings from
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The most important language is, nevertheless, the language of true, :), which is the language of all humanity!!!
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English has the additional wrinkle of French speaking Vikings (Norman or Noramnt) taking over Brittan.
Funny how a lot of that army was composed of Bretons that left when the Norse and Anglo-Saxons came in.
So anyone that takes English as an additional language has my respect.
Language is a view of history.

You are right brother the MOST important is the TRUTH.


bénédiction au nom de notre Seigneur
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English has the additional wrinkle of French speaking Vikings (Norman or Noramnt) taking over Brittan.
Funny how a lot of that army was composed of Bretons that left when the Norse and Anglo-Saxons came in.
So anyone that takes English as an additional language has my respect.
Language is a view of history.

You are right brother the MOST important is the TRUTH.


bénédiction au nom de notre Seigneur
 Quoting: dschis1000


Dear you,

Yes, history is interesting in its every aspect, for when we learn about it we seem to see and understand more than we would else do.

Pity that I was such a lazy pupil at school, caring more about butterflies and fishing arctic trouts and chars in near-by brooks and lakes.

After that I cared about visiting old people in the hospital, speaking to them about life and listening to what they had to say. At that time I was seven years old, and they just loved it when I came to see them and speak to them. From them I learned a lot of things about days gone by.

As a lazy pupil I loved playing chess or football. I was exceptionally talented as a football player in moving very fast and in unexpected ways, which made me capable of almost making up a football team quite alone. I could start out from my own part of the football field and go all the way to the opposite part of the field and score goals, to the annoyance of my opponents. But, of course, this did not happen on a very high level, even though people were very much impressed.

Some of my best opponents of those days are close to being crippled while I am in an incredibly good shape, a reason why I think it was at first devised by our great and good Lord that I should be able to work what He had foreseen me to do for the benefit of truth.

These things are given to tell you that I am just an ordinary fellow, not much of plus or minus, but just one of the ordinary sort.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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English has the additional wrinkle of French speaking Vikings (Norman or Noramnt) taking over Brittan.
Funny how a lot of that army was composed of Bretons that left when the Norse and Anglo-Saxons came in.
So anyone that takes English as an additional language has my respect.
Language is a view of history.

You are right brother the MOST important is the TRUTH.


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I think, my dear brother, that English is as important a vehicle of truth in our days as Greek once was, one that is expecting to be used by the true two witnesses of God.

Nevertheless, if need be, the two witnesses can fight a battle for truth also on the level of the original languages of our Bible, which is not your Bible in that case.

Therefore, you devils who dare to oppose us with your falsehood, let it sink into the depth of your unhappy souls that the end of your unrighteous dominion is now close at your door, God being your judge!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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English has the additional wrinkle of French speaking Vikings (Norman or Noramnt) taking over Brittan.
Funny how a lot of that army was composed of Bretons that left when the Norse and Anglo-Saxons came in.
So anyone that takes English as an additional language has my respect.
Language is a view of history.

You are right brother the MOST important is the TRUTH.


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Dear you,

Yes, history is interesting in its every aspect, for when we learn about it we seem to see and understand more than we would else do.

Pity that I was such a lazy pupil at school, caring more about butterflies and fishing arctic trouts and chars in near-by brooks and lakes.

After that I cared about visiting old people in the hospital, speaking to them about life and listening to what they had to say. At that time I was seven years old, and they just loved it when I came to see them and speak to them. From them I learned a lot of things about days gone by.

As a lazy pupil I loved playing chess or football. I was exceptionally talented as a football player in moving very fast and in unexpected ways, which made me capable of almost making up a football team quite alone. I could start out from my own part of the football field and go all the way to the opposite part of the field and score goals, to the annoyance of my opponents. But, of course, this did not happen on a very high level, even though people were very much impressed.

Some of my best opponents of those days are close to being crippled while I am in an incredibly good shape, a reason why I think it was at first devised by our great and good Lord that I should be able to work what He had foreseen me to do for the benefit of truth.

These things are given to tell you that I am just an ordinary fellow, not much of plus or minus, but just one of the ordinary sort.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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Hmm,

Well I grew up poor. It was rough, but I was pretty good student and actually played football (American) myself. I was one of those guys that was short and stout (not fat) and could make my way past boys that were much bigger than myself. I used to play chess myself. I also used to alk with old folks all of the time myself both as a child and a teenager. Indeed they were wise. I did read the entire Bible from cover to cover while being involved in Teen Challange, as a volunteer, during one summer.

I joined the Army and made a carrer of it to better myself and ultimately my family.

After I had retired from the Army and actually my children had left. My wife got sick with cancer. I have posted the story about this before. I also found out that I was born with Cystic Fibrosis.

I can say for years I was an agnostic maybe atheist for years until the Lord brought me back. Do I sin? Yes, I am human and constantly working in the all of the time. There have been incidents during my life looking back that I cannot deny the Lord was working in my life.

I could go on and on, but I don't really like to talk about myself.

Basically I'm just an ordinary fellow with four grandchildren that dreams, sees and hear things.


Blessings
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English has the additional wrinkle of French speaking Vikings (Norman or Noramnt) taking over Brittan.
Funny how a lot of that army was composed of Bretons that left when the Norse and Anglo-Saxons came in.
So anyone that takes English as an additional language has my respect.
Language is a view of history.

You are right brother the MOST important is the TRUTH.


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Dear you,

Yes, history is interesting in its every aspect, for when we learn about it we seem to see and understand more than we would else do.

Pity that I was such a lazy pupil at school, caring more about butterflies and fishing arctic trouts and chars in near-by brooks and lakes.

After that I cared about visiting old people in the hospital, speaking to them about life and listening to what they had to say. At that time I was seven years old, and they just loved it when I came to see them and speak to them. From them I learned a lot of things about days gone by.

As a lazy pupil I loved playing chess or football. I was exceptionally talented as a football player in moving very fast and in unexpected ways, which made me capable of almost making up a football team quite alone. I could start out from my own part of the football field and go all the way to the opposite part of the field and score goals, to the annoyance of my opponents. But, of course, this did not happen on a very high level, even though people were very much impressed.

Some of my best opponents of those days are close to being crippled while I am in an incredibly good shape, a reason why I think it was at first devised by our great and good Lord that I should be able to work what He had foreseen me to do for the benefit of truth.

These things are given to tell you that I am just an ordinary fellow, not much of plus or minus, but just one of the ordinary sort.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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Hmm,

Well I grew up poor. It was rough, but I was pretty good student and actually played football (American) myself. I was one of those guys that was short and stout (not fat) and could make my way past boys that were much bigger than myself. I used to play chess myself. I also used to alk with old folks all of the time myself both as a child and a teenager. Indeed they were wise. I did read the entire Bible from cover to cover while being involved in Teen Challange, as a volunteer, during one summer.

I joined the Army and made a carrer of it to better myself and ultimately my family.

After I had retired from the Army and actually my children had left. My wife got sick with cancer. I have posted the story about this before. I also found out that I was born with Cystic Fibrosis.

I can say for years I was an agnostic maybe atheist for years until the Lord brought me back. Do I sin? Yes, I am human and constantly working in the all of the time. There have been incidents during my life looking back that I cannot deny the Lord was working in my life.

I could go on and on, but I don't really like to talk about myself.

Basically I'm just an ordinary fellow with four grandchildren that dreams, sees and hear things.


Blessings
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Dear you,

It was very interesting for me (at least) to hear about your experences, so I will say: Thank you for your trust in telling me (and us) about yourself!

In many ways, in spite of living far apart and being members of different cultures, we go through similar things, and in realizing it we also see that we are all JUST human beings. I find it to be a very nice point, with the love of our good Lord who inspired me like He does you, from which to start the work for the benefit of all humanity!

With greetings
PehJeshuah
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Amen

Ezechiel said:

Chapter 22

23 And the word of the LORD came to me, saying, 24 Son of man, say to her: You are a land not being cleansed, nor rained on in the day of disgust.

25 A plot by her prophets is in her midst, like a roaring lion tearing the prey. They have devoured souls; they have taken the treasure and precious things; they multiplied her many widows in her midst. 26 Her priests have broken My law and have defiled My holy things. They have put no difference between the holy and the common, and have not taught between the unclean and the clean, and have hidden their eyes from My sabbaths, and I am defiled among them.

27 Her rulers in her midst are like wolves tearing the prey, to shed blood and to destroy souls, to get unjust gain. 28 And her prophets have daubed themselves with lime, seeing vanity and divining lies to them, saying, So says the Lord Jehovah; when the LORD has not spoken.

29 The people of the land have used oppression and practiced robbery, and they have troubled the poor and needy. Yea, they have oppressed the stranger without right.

30 And I sought for a man among them who should wall up a wall for the land, and stand in the break before me, that I should not destroy it. But I did not find one. 31 Therefore I have poured out My fury on them. I have burned them up with the fire of My wrath. I have given their way on their heads, says the Lord Jehovah.


Sort of applies


I hope that people all over the world are looking now and taking heed.


May the blessings of Our Living and Most Holy God be with you
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Hi Michael,
In regard to this, I found this article to be particularly interesting. Ironically, I came across it a couple days ago.

[link to realtruth.org]

I hope you are well!
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Hi RockyMtnLady,

I'm doing well thank you, hope UR2!

Yes David Pack and the RCG provide some very good info, and the truth to much of the deception within the Churches today. I like what I hear from them and it meshes greatly with what I was told in 1975 when I received the 999 mark.

I encourage you to watch the RCG Beast of Revelation video series at least, you will then understand much of what is going on.

Blessings,

Michael.
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I specifically like what is said about the Two Witnesses:
"These men have not yet appeared. When they do, so will the Tribulation! Neither will arrive in the way popular opinion suggests. Many professing Christians believe that they will embrace these two men with excitement and rejoicing. However, in reality, the Bible shows most will almost certainly assume them to be the final beast and miracle-working False Prophet—and the beast and False Prophet may be received as the Two Witnesses! Such will be the power of the devil’s final deceit—and “popular prophetic thinking” is now setting up the “Christian” world for MASS DELUSION (II Thes. 2:10-11)!"

As you undoubtedly know, I know PJ to be one of the two witnesses and I have seen this happen to him!

RockyMtnLady
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Once one understands the Beast and that most of the "Christians" are already worshiping an Antichrist, it becomes quite clear why so many will hate them and even rejoice upon their deaths. When God calls them and they rise up many will be shocked, some may even accept that the witnesses did indeed tell them the truth. Many however will still be deceived by the great lies that the AC (world leader) and False prophet will spew out.

It is the Truth they will bring (a witness is one who brings the truth) that everyone will hate. What is more hated than when you are told the truth and it’s against what you were taught, and even more importantly what you came to believe in?

I encourage you (and everyone) to keep searching and learning about the truth, the 144,000 will all know it, and they will be keepers of God’s commandments.

Is PJ one of the witnesses? I hope so, but he needs to start spreading the truth along with the real gospel.
The real gospel is the message that Yeshua taught about the Kingdom of God.

Blessings
Michael.
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Hi Michael,
The gospel is the Kingdom of God, that which Christ was a messenger so I agree with you. The everlasting gospel that PJ has put forth is also the Kingdom of God...it is just detailing how to be "saved." I hope and pray people see this....he (PJ) is not bringing forth a "different gospel" instead, he is expounding and clarifying on the original gospel.

God Bless everyone,
RockyMtnLady
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Does anyone speak in 'tongues' here? How about experiences that you would call 'supernatural', or even prophecies you've received? Feel free to share, I'd be interested to learn about them.
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Does anyone speak in 'tongues' here? How about experiences that you would call 'supernatural', or even prophecies you've received? Feel free to share, I'd be interested to learn about them.
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you can email me at mikerking@msn.com and I'll send you what has happened to me and what I have been shown.
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Let it be known all whom beare false witness shall mourn.
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PerJesuha, I hope this does not come across as a personal attack but there are some things that have caused me to have concern over your insistence that you have been chosen as one of God's Two Witnesses; that are spoken about in Revelation...

As a believer, you should know the position you have placed yourself in is not a position the Lord takes kindly to those who prophesy without the knowledge of things that have not been revealed by His (Spirit) as of this time.

You have to be careful as you are spending (PerJeshua) most of your time trying to convince other Christians (like yourself) that you have the authority that is Christ's alone. Get ahold of yourself and begin repenting of this before His protection is removed from you.

To put this in perspective, is the reason that you're driving yourself to the point that you've reached a point of (spirtual) frustration because you're causing confusion to other believers who you have convinced that your message has been granted by the First and the Last?

Does it seem as if burning the candle at both ends hasn't brought a positive answer that you; (PerJeshua) have so desperately tried to answer without the Spirit of Truth revealing this to you?

As a person who has alot of Christian-zeal; have you considered that if you are truly one of God's final two witnesses, revelation should be flowing of your words without being accompanied with the types of frustrations that have been your achilles heal?

Of all the things that you have made yourself to be, is the reason you are convinced to be God's witness as a result of a father's wound?

As revelation has not revealed the answers to these questions, as a Christian who has learned how to simply enjoy how good it is to enter into a revealed relationship with the Lord; I can at least tell you that my hope has to be energized the Lord's perspective and never on what makes me as though whatever I say better be constant revelation. Jesus (as the Christ) was allowed to live as a Spirit-filled expression of human understanding that without COMPLETELY depending upon His (heavenly) Father to let Him experience the things that you and I go through (PerJeshua); feelings of abandonment, people lying to and behind you, frustrations, joys, hopes, THESE things gave Jesus the authority to respect His disciples when they used the scriptures to ask Him who's the greatest disciple of them all...

PerJeshua, I implore you if you continue to pretend to fill as if you have to spread this message as if you can do it without the Spirit's leading; the days will ahead the Lord will make it very clear (through some difficult circumstances) to you that your time you've spent spreading the type of message you have spread was completely waste of time.

Christ is the one you need to lay yourself before. He will bless you for your simple willingness to let Him be your Shephard, PerJeshua. Remember, if our weakest moments is usually where we are able to see God most clearly as our strength....
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God has a last day servant and it is the 2nd witness of revelation the other witness is Elijah and the 2nd is always greater than the first (John and Jesus) Elijah and the last day servant..you can see the last day servant in revelation 14 reaping the harvest: Jesus is Revelation 19 being He has many crowns and is called the "Word of God" and KING of KINGS and LORD of LORDS, but the guy in Revelation 14 only has one crown on and an angel has to tell him when to reap the harvest(would an angel ever have to tell Jesus when to do something,,NEVER, Jesus made that angel



Revelation 14:
The Harvest of the Earth

14I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one “like a son of man” with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.

Revelation 19:
Nobody is telling Jesus to do anything because he knows everything

11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God(Jesus is the Word). 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”a He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
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Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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Dear you,

Let me answer and comment on what you write.

PerJesuha, I hope this does not come across as a personal attack but there are some things that have caused me to have concern over your insistence that you have been chosen as one of God's Two Witnesses; that are spoken about in Revelation...
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My answer:
Of course, if what we speak is not according to Holy Scripture we are in fact asking to be attacked in person, for truth cannot be blamed for what we do in that case. Since you are concerned about me not being what I tell you, since I tell it, there must be legitimate reasons for you to doubt, first and foremost from Holy Scripture. With your having such reasons I hope you will share them with all who visit this thread on GLP.

As a believer, you should know the position you have placed yourself in is not a position the Lord takes kindly to those who prophesy without the knowledge of things that have not been revealed by His (Spirit) as of this time.
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My answer:
I wonder why you compare me with people who prophesy without the knowledge of things that have not been revealed by to them by God. Could you please point out those false prophecies that I have made myself guilty of! When you read about the two witnesses in the Bible do you learn that God makes prophets into witnesses or that God makes witnesses into prophets. If the last thing is true would you accuse any of the two witnesses of claiming to be prophets even before God has made them into prophets, as He promises. What I mean is this: Do you tell me that I claim that the two witnesses are prophets from the very beginning?


You have to be careful as you are spending (PerJeshua) most of your time trying to convince other Christians (like yourself) that you have the authority that is Christ's alone. Get ahold of yourself and begin repenting of this before His protection is removed from you.
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My answer:
Listen, what I have written here on the thread are things found in the Holy Scripture, such as I have commented on and made more easily understood to people who care to listen. Even if only one person is willing to listen to what I say my efforts will not been in vain, for the angels of God will then have a good reason to rejoice. This is what Scripture says. My question to you is this: Where do I steal the authority of Christ? Will you please substantiate what you blame on me! You sure know that the two witnesses of Rev 11 will have power to shut the heaven and power over waters to turn them to blood, so I hope you do not accuse them of having stolen the authority that is Christ's alone! So as to make this scripture clear to you I will tell you that the waters meant that are turned into blood are false doctrines that deceive people. That power I have, since I can refute any fallacy that false teachers might dare to oppose me with. If they do not pay heed the heaven will be closed to them, for as you know from the Bible falsehood can save nobody. Therefore, since all true Christians have the power to shut the heaven according to the words you find in Mat 16:19, why not also the true two witnesses:

whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven
 Quoting: The Bible



To put this in perspective, is the reason that you're driving yourself to the point that you've reached a point of (spirtual) frustration because you're causing confusion to other believers who you have convinced that your message has been granted by the First and the Last?
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe



My answer:
Ask those who believe in what I say if they are confused or if the truth has become clear to them! Besides, I have not reached what you call "a point of (spiritual) frustration", for my words are not the words of a lost and frustrated person, and therefore they cannot be refuted, as all will experience who try to twist my words.

Does it seem as if burning the candle at both ends hasn't brought a positive answer that you; (PerJeshua) have so desperately tried to answer without the Spirit of Truth revealing this to you?
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My answer:
Ask those who read my words if my answers are according to Scripture or just rubbish, like that which false teachers propagate today! What is positive to angels will of course be negative to devils. Will you please explain to people what things the Spirit of Truth has not revealed to me, and I guess you say this because you can find instances that prove your words!

As a person who has alot of Christian-zeal; have you considered that if you are truly one of God's final two witnesses, revelation should be flowing of your words without being accompanied with the types of frustrations that have been your achilles heal?
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My answer:
Any examples, please?

Of all the things that you have made yourself to be, is the reason you are convinced to be God's witness as a result of a father's wound?
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
Listen, open the book of Zech and read what he foretells about the two witnesses, then you will see that the work was God's and not the work of man. Will you accuse a true witness of God of having chosen himself, is that your aim?


As revelation has not revealed the answers to these questions, as a Christian who has learned how to simply enjoy how good it is to enter into a revealed relationship with the Lord; I can at least tell you that my hope has to be energized the Lord's perspective and never on what makes me as though whatever I say better be constant revelation. Jesus (as the Christ) was allowed to live as a Spirit-filled expression of human understanding that without COMPLETELY depending upon His (heavenly) Father to let Him experience the things that you and I go through (PerJeshua); feelings of abandonment, people lying to and behind you, frustrations, joys, hopes, THESE things gave Jesus the authority to respect His disciples when they used the scriptures to ask Him who's the greatest disciple of them all...
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My answer:
So, since you are now telling that the book of Revelation has not revealed the answers to these questions to you as a Christian, I cannot find you to be one among God's servants on the basis of the following scripture (Rev 1:1):

to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass
 Quoting: The Bible


In spite of not being among God's servants you seem to accuse me of claiming to be the greatest of disciples, which is just your own backbiting.

PerJeshua, I implore you if you continue to pretend to fill as if you have to spread this message as if you can do it without the Spirit's leading; the days will ahead the Lord will make it very clear (through some difficult circumstances) to you that your time you've spent spreading the type of message you have spread was completely waste of time.
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My answer:
What are these words of yours: "if you CONTINUE to pretend to (...)"? What have I pretended and what is your scriptural basis for saying such a thing?

Christ is the one you need to lay yourself before. He will bless you for your simple willingness to let Him be your Shephard, PerJeshua. Remember, if our weakest moments is usually where we are able to see God most clearly as our strength....
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My answer:
If you had ever read my article on "Baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel" you would not be able to infer from that Jesus Christ is not THE ONLY ONE on whom I base my faith and hope!

Everything that you have said are said after the will of an empty heart and a vain belief in God, such as now rules the earth.

Greetings from
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God has a last day servant and it is the 2nd witness of revelation the other witness is Elijah and the 2nd is always greater than the first (John and Jesus) Elijah and the last day servant..you can see the last day servant in revelation 14 reaping the harvest: Jesus is Revelation 19 being He has many crowns and is called the "Word of God" and KING of KINGS and LORD of LORDS, but the guy in Revelation 14 only has one crown on and an angel has to tell him when to reap the harvest(would an angel ever have to tell Jesus when to do something,,NEVER, Jesus made that angel



Revelation 14:
The Harvest of the Earth

14I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one “like a son of man” with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.

Revelation 19:
Nobody is telling Jesus to do anything because he knows everything

11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God(Jesus is the Word). 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”a He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
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What you write is just confused words of a confused man, for you know nothing about the things foretold in the book of Revelation.

The true understanding is given to God's servants, so whoever twists the words of the book of Revelation is not of God, but a servant of the Devil.

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The woman from Rev 12 is Israel.


"A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days."

who is the child she gives birth to?


God has a last day servant and it is the 2nd witness of revelation the other witness is Elijah and the 2nd is always greater than the first (John and Jesus) Elijah and the last day servant..you can see the last day servant in revelation 14 reaping the harvest: Jesus is Revelation 19 being He has many crowns and is called the "Word of God" and KING of KINGS and LORD of LORDS, but the guy in Revelation 14 only has one crown on and an angel has to tell him when to reap the harvest(would an angel ever have to tell Jesus when to do something,,NEVER, Jesus made that angel



Revelation 14:
The Harvest of the Earth

14I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one “like a son of man” with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.

Revelation 19:
Nobody is telling Jesus to do anything because he knows everything

11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God(Jesus is the Word). 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”a He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
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The bible has a pattern of doing the physical first and then the spiritual. In the beginning Adam and Eve had physical children together. In the end the two witnesses will be a type of Adam and Eve bringing forth spiritual children In Zechariah we see Joshua and Zerubabbel building the temple, representing the two witnesses building the temple. God doesn't want a temple made of bricks, He had two of those and both were able to be destroyed. God wants people to accept what His Son Jesus did on the cross and repent. When a person does that they become the temple of God. The bible tells us there is a famine of the Word of God in the end, and these two witnesses are annointed to preach the Word so they will build the temple by spreading the Word of God about Jesus and each person will become the temple by receiving the salvation Jesus offers and as each person becomes a temple, the temple gets bigger and bigger. Again the bible shows the physical first and the spiritual second. If you know history about Israel it separated into two kingdoms after Solomon. The northern kingdom was called Israel and the southern kingdom Judah. Israel had 10 tribes and Judah had two. Assyrians came in and invaded the northern 10 tribes and they were never heard of again..135 years later the babylonians attacked the southern kingdom and took them into captivity. The difference is 70 year later the southern kingdom(Judah) regrouped and came together again, and is the Israel we know today. Those other ten tribes are in the Land of Milk and Honey(united states) just as God said he would place them. So if the 10 tribes of Israel are in the land of the United States then the people are the ones who make up Israel no matter what the land is called. America is the spiritual Israel because the 10 tribes live in the land of milk and honey. America is doing exactly what Israel did before judgement came and we will be destroyed and go into captivity just as the first physical Israel did, but God will raise up a deliverer just as he always does and send an Elijah with him. This last day servant will be Gods greatest servant because he will bring both houses of Israel 10 tribes and 2 tribes back together through the annointing God gives him. Look at Revelation 14 and you see this last day servant reaping the harvest and then look at revelation 19 and you can clearly see the difference between Jesus and the last day servant..it's posted at the top of the page. The woman about to give birth is spiritual Israel(united states)and the last day servant comes from there
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Hello again, waterman,

So you dare go on propagating your stupidity and ignorance of the true contents of the book of Revelation? Well then, let us look at what you say and weigh it in the scales of truth. You quote Rev 12 and ask:

who is the child she gives birth to?
 Quoting: waterman


My answer:
At least, there is one evident thing that has tremendous impact on your question, namely the fact that ever since it came the book of Revelation foretells things to happen and not things that had already happened when it was given to the servants of God. That is what is written in Rev 1:1, so it cannot be denied. Therefore, the woman who gives birth to the man child in Rev 12:5 is definitely not Mary, the woman who gave birth to Jesus, our Saviour.

The bible has a pattern of doing the physical first and then the spiritual. In the beginning Adam and Eve had physical children together. In the end the two witnesses will be a type of Adam and Eve bringing forth spiritual children In Zechariah we see Joshua and Zerubabbel building the temple, representing the two witnesses building the temple. God doesn't want a temple made of bricks, He had two of those and both were able to be destroyed. God wants people to accept what His Son Jesus did on the cross and repent. When a person does that they become the temple of God. The bible tells us there is a famine of the Word of God in the end, and these two witnesses are annointed to preach the Word so they will build the temple by spreading the Word of God about Jesus and each person will become the temple by receiving the salvation Jesus offers and as each person becomes a temple, the temple gets bigger and bigger. Again the bible shows the physical first and the spiritual second. If you know history about Israel it separated into two kingdoms after Solomon. The northern kingdom was called Israel and the southern kingdom Judah. Israel had 10 tribes and Judah had two. Assyrians came in and invaded the northern 10 tribes and they were never heard of again..135 years later the babylonians attacked the southern kingdom and took them into captivity. The difference is 70 year later the southern kingdom(Judah) regrouped and came together again, and is the Israel we know today. Those other ten tribes are in the Land of Milk and Honey(united states) just as God said he would place them. So if the 10 tribes of Israel are in the land of the United States then the people are the ones who make up Israel no matter what the land is called. America is the spiritual Israel because the 10 tribes live in the land of milk and honey. America is doing exactly what Israel did before judgement came and we will be destroyed and go into captivity just as the first physical Israel did, but God will raise up a deliverer just as he always does and send an Elijah with him. This last day servant will be Gods greatest servant because he will bring both houses of Israel 10 tribes and 2 tribes back together through the annointing God gives him. Look at Revelation 14 and you see this last day servant reaping the harvest and then look at revelation 19 and you can clearly see the difference between Jesus and the last day servant..it's posted at the top of the page. The woman about to give birth is spiritual Israel(united states)and the last day servant comes from there
 Quoting: waterman


My answer:
You ought to read Scripture in humility and prayers to God, that He show you the truth, instead of contradicting His words. Your claim that the woman in Rev 12 is USA is just ridiculous rubbish, for while USA has 50 stars this woman has only 12 stars. USA has never, spiritually speaking, had the moon "under her feet", nor been "clothed with the sun". While the woman in Rev is being protected and will finally return to "her place" (Rev 12:14), being truthful, USA is seen to be the origin of many major false churches that spread their poison worldwide, among which are Mormonism, Christian Science, Seventh-day Adventism, and Jehovah's witnesses.

That the true witness of God will come from USA is also rubbish, for USA is in the west, where the sun sets, while the true witness of God is raised up from the north country, which is therefore called "the rising of the sun" (namely (the place of) the rising of God's truth), as can be seen when Psalm 75:6, Isa 41:25, Psalm 48:2, and Zech 6:8 are compared:

For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
 Quoting: The Bible


I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
 Quoting: The Bible


Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.
 Quoting: The Bible


Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
 Quoting: The Bible


Also, in saying that God will bring Israel and Judah together you are contradicting the Bible, for in Zech 11:14 it is foretold that God will, on the contrary, "break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel" in the NT time period. These words cannot be applied to the ten tribes of historical Israel, for they are gone forever. What is called "Israel" in Zech 11:14 is in biblical prophecy the fallen-away Christianity of today.

You seem to claim that one of the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 is our Lord himself, but such a claim is downright a fallacy.

The two witnesses are foretold to sit on either side of Jesus Christ, so you are totally wrong. Read the following text in the Bible and become convinced that I tell you the truth!

Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom. But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
 Quoting: The Bible


Pay heed to the truth that I tell you in order that God may heal you, or, else, accept the mark of the beast!

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Let it be known all whom beare false witness shall mourn.
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Therefore, my friend, let us always speak the truth, and let us therefore always base everythng we say be said on the firm foundation of the truth given to us by God!

I am glad that you agree with me, that false witnesses will mourn in the end. Thank you for your support!

And thank you for being honest!

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Hello again, waterman,

So you dare go on propagating your stupidity and ignorance of the true contents of the book of Revelation? Well then, let us look at what you say and weigh it in the scales of truth. You quote Rev 12 and ask:

who is the child she gives birth to?
 Quoting: waterman


My answer:
At least, there is one evident thing that has tremendous impact on your question, namely the fact that ever since it came the book of Revelation foretells things to happen and not things that had already happened when it was given to the servants of God. That is what is written in Rev 1:1, so it cannot be denied. Therefore, the woman who gives birth to the man child in Rev 12:5 is definitely not Mary, the woman who gave birth to Jesus, our Saviour.

The bible has a pattern of doing the physical first and then the spiritual. In the beginning Adam and Eve had physical children together. In the end the two witnesses will be a type of Adam and Eve bringing forth spiritual children In Zechariah we see Joshua and Zerubabbel building the temple, representing the two witnesses building the temple. God doesn't want a temple made of bricks, He had two of those and both were able to be destroyed. God wants people to accept what His Son Jesus did on the cross and repent. When a person does that they become the temple of God. The bible tells us there is a famine of the Word of God in the end, and these two witnesses are annointed to preach the Word so they will build the temple by spreading the Word of God about Jesus and each person will become the temple by receiving the salvation Jesus offers and as each person becomes a temple, the temple gets bigger and bigger. Again the bible shows the physical first and the spiritual second. If you know history about Israel it separated into two kingdoms after Solomon. The northern kingdom was called Israel and the southern kingdom Judah. Israel had 10 tribes and Judah had two. Assyrians came in and invaded the northern 10 tribes and they were never heard of again..135 years later the babylonians attacked the southern kingdom and took them into captivity. The difference is 70 year later the southern kingdom(Judah) regrouped and came together again, and is the Israel we know today. Those other ten tribes are in the Land of Milk and Honey(united states) just as God said he would place them. So if the 10 tribes of Israel are in the land of the United States then the people are the ones who make up Israel no matter what the land is called. America is the spiritual Israel because the 10 tribes live in the land of milk and honey. America is doing exactly what Israel did before judgement came and we will be destroyed and go into captivity just as the first physical Israel did, but God will raise up a deliverer just as he always does and send an Elijah with him. This last day servant will be Gods greatest servant because he will bring both houses of Israel 10 tribes and 2 tribes back together through the annointing God gives him. Look at Revelation 14 and you see this last day servant reaping the harvest and then look at revelation 19 and you can clearly see the difference between Jesus and the last day servant..it's posted at the top of the page. The woman about to give birth is spiritual Israel(united states)and the last day servant comes from there
 Quoting: waterman


My answer:
You ought to read Scripture in humility and prayers to God, that He show you the truth, instead of contradicting His words. Your claim that the woman in Rev 12 is USA is just ridiculous rubbish, for while USA has 50 stars this woman has only 12 stars. USA has never, spiritually speaking, had the moon "under her feet", nor been "clothed with the sun". While the woman in Rev is being protected and will finally return to "her place" (Rev 12:14), being truthful, USA is seen to be the origin of many major false churches that spread their poison worldwide, among which are Mormonism, Christian Science, Seventh-day Adventism, and Jehovah's witnesses.

That the true witness of God will come from USA is also rubbish, for USA is in the west, where the sun sets, while the true witness of God is raised up from the north country, which is therefore called "the rising of the sun" (namely (the place of) the rising of God's truth), as can be seen when Psalm 75:6, Isa 41:25, Psalm 48:2, and Zech 6:8 are compared:

For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
 Quoting: The Bible


I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
 Quoting: The Bible


Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.
 Quoting: The Bible


Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
 Quoting: The Bible


Also, in saying that God will bring Israel and Judah together you are contradicting the Bible, for in Zech 11:14 it is foretold that God will, on the contrary, "break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel" in the NT time period. These words cannot be applied to the ten tribes of historical Israel, for they are gone forever. What is called "Israel" in Zech 11:14 is in biblical prophecy the fallen-away Christianity of today.

You seem to claim that one of the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 is our Lord himself, but such a claim is downright a fallacy.

The two witnesses are foretold to sit on either side of Jesus Christ, so you are totally wrong. Read the following text in the Bible and become convinced that I tell you the truth!

Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom. But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
 Quoting: The Bible


Pay heed to the truth that I tell you in order that God may heal you, or, else, accept the mark of the beast!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 27455920


The two houses of Israel will be joined together again that is why the bible says "all of Israel" will be saved. The last day servant brings those two houses together and it shows it in Ezekiel 37:

11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

15 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,

16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:

17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?

19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
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