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I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

 
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Pehjeshua,

This will be the last time I speak to you in this manner.

I teach 7th graders and have been a teacher for over 14 years.

The way you (pehjeshua) speak to people on this website, is strangely similar to the students who constantly find themselves in the principal's office for their unwillingness to let go of their attitude and "SOMEBODY WRONGED ME" baby attitude.

As you are probably older than 12-13 years old, it can be concluded you have no one else to blame for your selfish me-first behavior an yourself.

As the scriptures tell us to grow up and put childish things away, I would STRONGLY RECOMMEND you put away your "I HAVE SOME ANSWERS FROM THE LORD THAT YOU DON'T HAVE" behavior and start listening what people are saying to you.

As a person who has been trained up to know when the Lord is speaking to me through His Spirit as He speaks to my (human) spirit, or a prophetic message, or when a prophet is speaking the Word of the Lord, as certain as I have been in the last 3 messages I have written to you:

The Lord has been very clear with you (perjeshua) regarding some things to you (read the last 2 posts I've written) reheat pertain to what's going to happen if you don't change in your behavior.

Perjeshua, does it seem as though all the things that you have said are falling on deaf ears? Is it possible the Lord has not provided you no further insight to HIMSELF, but that you are wearing yourself out burning the candle at both ends.

If you keep doing this, the Lord is going to make less understanding into His plans that has for you, as well as to any insight you seem to think you have gotten from Him will be reduced to simply truths that can read from any version of Greek, Hebrew, English or whatever language bible you have certainly prided yourself to be able to quote...

If you just lay your Pehjeshua's ways before the Lord's feet and let Him be your shephard, I'm convinced you can have a lot more influence than merely a website declaring something you no understanding about...
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


"As the scriptures tell us to grow up and put childish things away, I would STRONGLY RECOMMEND you put away your "I HAVE SOME ANSWERS FROM THE LORD THAT YOU DON'T HAVE" behavior and start listening what people are saying to you."

Why would he or anyone who is interested in Truth listen to you or anyone else consumed with falsehood? All I can think about when I read your response is.... you don't "get" it.

RockyMtnLady
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Rockymtnlady,

If the truth you are referring to that you claim PehJeshua is about involves:

Copying/pasting scripture verses, arrogance, showing off his education, pride, acting like a 2 year old brat, throwing temper tantrums when some of these people call into question His supposed claim to be an end time witness ( in such a way that it doesn't seem to be anymore filled with love than the same petulance, babyness, and bullcrap that comes out of Snookis mouth on Jersey Shore,

Then you're exactly correct in your opinion that I don't "get" his pursuing the kind of truth that you seem to think is drawing closer to Jesus...
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Hey Joe,

He isn't always like this. As far copying and pasting verses...what is the matter with that? If the scripture applies then use it.

PJ and I have had our disagreements to be sure, but 7th grader? I don't like his lingo when he gets mad myself, but I was a drill instructor at one time so it doesn't bother me. He's got a short fuse, but I can think of a couple of prophets that admitted they had bad mouths and bad tempers.

Think of it this way if you don't think he's a Witness. listen to him because he has a great take on scripture. Besides does it really matter? If he is...all glory be to God...if he isn't then the Father will deal with him. One does not just assume that title after all.

PJ's take, if I may PJ, on love to be be as loud as possible to show the Church the error of it's ways. You know sort of like what a drill sergeant would do. If he gets your attention it may save your life or soul as it were.

Now I have talked with him a bit about other things and the man has some insight, very humble, and very compassionate about humankind. He goes into his credentials when folks start hassling him. I'm sort of glad he doesn't do the bear thing or literal fire from the mouth.

Teacher eh? You could say you did the same thing, lol


Blessings in the name of our living Saviour
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Hey Joe,

He isn't always like this. As far copying and pasting verses...what is the matter with that? If the scripture applies then use it.

PJ and I have had our disagreements to be sure, but 7th grader? I don't like his lingo when he gets mad myself, but I was a drill instructor at one time so it doesn't bother me. He's got a short fuse, but I can think of a couple of prophets that admitted they had bad mouths and bad tempers.

Think of it this way if you don't think he's a Witness. listen to him because he has a great take on scripture. Besides does it really matter? If he is...all glory be to God...if he isn't then the Father will deal with him. One does not just assume that title after all.

PJ's take, if I may PJ, on love to be be as loud as possible to show the Church the error of it's ways. You know sort of like what a drill sergeant would do. If he gets your attention it may save your life or soul as it were.

Now I have talked with him a bit about other things and the man has some insight, very humble, and very compassionate about humankind. He goes into his credentials when folks start hassling him. I'm sort of glad he doesn't do the bear thing or literal fire from the mouth.

Teacher eh? You could say you did the same thing, lol


Blessings in the name of our living Saviour
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Couldn't have said it better myself.

RockyMtnLady
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Rockymtnlady,

If the truth you are referring to that you claim PehJeshua is about involves:

Copying/pasting scripture verses, arrogance, showing off his education, pride, acting like a 2 year old brat, throwing temper tantrums when some of these people call into question His supposed claim to be an end time witness ( in such a way that it doesn't seem to be anymore filled with love than the same petulance, babyness, and bullcrap that comes out of Snookis mouth on Jersey Shore,

Then you're exactly correct in your opinion that I don't "get" his pursuing the kind of truth that you seem to think is drawing closer to Jesus...
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


Couldn't have said it better myself
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Hey Joe,

He isn't always like this. As far copying and pasting verses...what is the matter with that? If the scripture applies then use it.

PJ and I have had our disagreements to be sure, but 7th grader? I don't like his lingo when he gets mad myself, but I was a drill instructor at one time so it doesn't bother me. He's got a short fuse, but I can think of a couple of prophets that admitted they had bad mouths and bad tempers.

Think of it this way if you don't think he's a Witness. listen to him because he has a great take on scripture. Besides does it really matter? If he is...all glory be to God...if he isn't then the Father will deal with him. One does not just assume that title after all.

PJ's take, if I may PJ, on love to be be as loud as possible to show the Church the error of it's ways. You know sort of like what a drill sergeant would do. If he gets your attention it may save your life or soul as it were.

Now I have talked with him a bit about other things and the man has some insight, very humble, and very compassionate about humankind. He goes into his credentials when folks start hassling him. I'm sort of glad he doesn't do the bear thing or literal fire from the mouth.

Teacher eh? You could say you did the same thing, lol


Blessings in the name of our living Saviour
 Quoting: dschis1000


Couldn't have said it better myself.

RockyMtnLady
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One more thing that PJ and I are in 'lock step' the Church, all of them, are in love with money. Many also teach the prosperity gospel (a doctrine of demons). A thing that really upsets me to see rich pastors and deacons: there are plenty.

If you read Isaiah 1:10-20 and I will paste this one Isaiah 10

1 Woe to those who decree unrighteous decrees, and to the scribes who write toil; 2 to turn aside the needy from judgment, and to steal the right from the poor of My people, that widows may be their prey, and they rob the orphans! 3 And what will you do in the day of judgment and in destruction? It comes from afar? To whom will you flee for help? And where will you leave your glory? 4 Surely they shall bow down under the prisoners, and they shall fall under the slain. In all this His hand is not turned away, but His hand is stretched out still.


Why is this important? If you read Isaiah 9:10. I will not paste that one. You can google Rabbi Jonathan Cahn. He explains very eloquently.

To be sure there is great evil on throughout the planet. However when christians (small c on purpose) start oppressing the poor and less fortunate.

James in Chapter 5 says it very well. I will paste this.

1 Come now, rich ones, weep and howl for your hardships coming on. 2 Your riches have rotted, and your clothes have become moth-eaten. 3 Your gold and silver have corroded, and their poison will be a witness against you, and will eat your flesh as fire. You heaped treasure in the last days. 4 Behold, the hire of the laborers reaping your fields cry out, being kept back by you. And the cries of those who have reaped have entered into the ears of the Lord of hosts. 5 You have lived luxuriously on the earth, and lived wantonly. You have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. 6 You have condemned and murdered the just; he does not resist you.

Haven't heard a sermon on that lately have you? I know I can't remember one myself and I was in the seventh grade over 40 years ago.

As the Saviour said the widow gave more



Blessings in the name of our Living God
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well, i guess it's game on...again
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PerJeshua, I'm going to tell you exactly why you are not and can not be one of God's chosen end time witnesses.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


Well then, speak and let us hear your sound reasoning!

1. You are going around telling everyone you are that witness. The real 2 witnesses will not know thye have been chosen. The reason for this will be to prevent the human nature of these two to be overcome with pride and arrogance- Both of which you are filled with...
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
You are supposing something that does not hold water. First, I am not going around telling everyone etc., as this should be my main mission. No, what I do is saying to people that what I have to tell is very important for everyone's salvation, for what people hear elsewhere are the fallacies of the fallen-away church, and since I am God's witness I am capable of showing them the way Our Saviour Jesus Christ. When you say that "the real 2 witnesses will not know they have been chosen" you are in fact saying that in spite of standing before the Lord of the earth (Rev 11:4) they are oblivious of God's presence! In doing so you deny what Scripture reveals, namely this (Rom 8:16):

The Spirit himself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are children of God
 Quoting: The Bible


You are also in error when you believe that obliviousness protects against pride and arrogance. The reason is that in Mark 7:22 it is showed to us that foolishness is sin, such as you say that the real 2 witnesses are infested with in spite of standing before the Lord. Do you not see how stupid you are?

2. A true witness is one who has been with God and understands His nature, His heart, His purposes. A person who has this much understanding has spent much of their life being lied against, mistreated- both before and during their walk with the Lord.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
Thank you, for you are describing my life. I have been mocked, backbited, thrown out of religious meetings, but still our Lord put a stamp in my heart as early as at my being 5 years old. I am not telling you that I am exceptional, not at all, but that in spite of me often having failed God always took my hand and gave me new hope. For so many years I walked in complete darkness, crying in my heart to God Almighty, and asking for guidance while not seeing the way. God even brought me to the gates of hell and let me hear the voices of immense sorrow and despair, and He showed me future events that were told to people before happening. I even saw Bobby Kennedy being killed before it happened, so will you say that it was not God who revealed these things to me?

3. A true witness who withstands this type of testing (from the Lord) and tempting (from the devil) doesn't look to put others down through insults and declaring OVER AND OVER they are that witness (which you have done). What they will be teaching is listening to the Lord speak to their (human) spirit from His (Holy) Spirit.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe



My answer:
You are right, but there is a difference between bringing fallacies down while making it clear to their propagators how hated their lies are by our good Lord, and making selfish attacks on persons. I do not attack people as such but their falsehood. I will ask you what the following words in the Bible means (Mark 3:5):

And when he had looked round about on them WITH ANGER, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts
 Quoting: The Bible


Is being angry at seeing people's dishonesty sin? Then I have sinned!

You also ought to know that we are now living before the great tribulation comes upon the whole world to annihilate sinners from the face of earth, so now are the days come of God's wrath, and He announces it to you through His witnesses, as you can see from Isa 30:27-28:

Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his TONGUE as a devouring fire: And his BREATH, as an overflowing stream, shall reach to the midst of the neck, to sift the nations with the sieve of vanity: and there shall be a bridle in the jaws of the people, causing them to err.
 Quoting: The Bible


Compare this scripture with 2 Thes 2:8:

And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming
 Quoting: The Bible


You sure know that God's witnesses are His tongue through which He warns people.


4. The scriptures say to be wise as a serpent but harmless as a dove. The strategy this requires is from seeking how to draw people TO THE LORD. The Lord is the author of strategy and is a strategic mastermind. Jesus knew how to approach every single person due to His listening intently to what The Spirit told him to say and do.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe



My answer:
This is true of ordinary serpents but not so of burning serpents which Scripture calls seraphs. The burning serpents are described in the following verse (Isa 14:29):

Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.
 Quoting: The Bible


The reason is that the burning serpents are end time messengers of fierceness, harbingers of God's coming wrath. They must be fiery because falsehood has filled the earth.

5. Your arrogance and insults are not of the Lord nor are they having any impact other than to show you as a gloryseeking selfish person.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe



My answer:
If my words have no impact then I am experiencing what God's witnesses also went through in former times. Read for instance these words (Jer 7:26-28):


Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers. Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them; but they will not hearken to thee: thou shalt also call unto them; but they will not answer thee. But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their mouth

Also, if telling the truth is arrogance then I am arrogant in your eyes. There is though another perspective given in Scripture, for if you read Psalm 149:9 you find these words:

To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints.
 Quoting: The Bible


Notice that they executee the jugment written! Where is it written if not in the Bible's prophecies? So, how do you know that what is their honour is not their arrogance in your opinion?

6. Declaring what nation the witnesses will be located in merely is out of selfish motives. By doing this, you are feeding into selfishness and pride. What nation this happens in is NOT known by anyone but the FATHER HIMSELF.....
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
Did I ever declare a specific country and not the north (country), as Scripture itself does? Let us look at what is foretold, and I hope you accept what Scripture shows you:

I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
 Quoting: The Bible
(Isa 41:25)

Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
 Quoting: The Bible
(Zec 6:8)

Is it not clear that God will start His uplifting from the north (country)? Could it be the west, USA, or the south or east? If so, why does the Bible's prophecies exclude that possibility, as you can see with your own eyes from Psalm 75:6:

For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
 Quoting: The Bible


I now think that I have answered clearly to your points of view.

Greetings from
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PerJeshua, I'm going to tell you exactly why you are not and can not be one of God's chosen end time witnesses.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


Well then, speak and let us hear your sound reasoning!

1. You are going around telling everyone you are that witness. The real 2 witnesses will not know thye have been chosen. The reason for this will be to prevent the human nature of these two to be overcome with pride and arrogance- Both of which you are filled with...
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
You are supposing something that does not hold water. First, I am not going around telling everyone etc., as though this were my mission. No, what I do is saying to people that what I have to tell is very important for everyone's salvation, for what people hear elsewhere are the fallacies of the fallen-away church, and since I am God's witness I am capable of showing them the way Our Saviour Jesus Christ. When you say that "the real 2 witnesses will not know they have been chosen" you are in fact saying that in spite of standing before the Lord of the earth (Rev 11:4) they are oblivious of God's presence! In doing so you deny what Scripture reveals, namely this (Rom 8:16):

The Spirit himself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are children of God
 Quoting: The Bible


You are also in error when you believe that obliviousness protects against pride and arrogance. The reason is that in Mark 7:22 it is showed to us that foolishness is sin, such as you say that the real 2 witnesses are infested with in spite of standing before the Lord. Do you not see how stupid you are?

2. A true witness is one who has been with God and understands His nature, His heart, His purposes. A person who has this much understanding has spent much of their life being lied against, mistreated- both before and during their walk with the Lord.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
Thank you, for you are describing my life. I have been mocked, backbited, thrown out of religious meetings, but still our Lord put a stamp in my heart as early as at my being 5 years old. I am not telling you that I am exceptional, not at all, but that in spite of me often having failed God always took my hand and gave me new hope. For so many years I walked in complete darkness, crying from the depth of my heart to God Almighty, and asking for guidance while not seeing the way. God even brought me to the gates of hell and let me hear the voices of immense sorrow and despair, and He showed me future events that were told by me to people before happening. I even saw Bobby Kennedy being killed before it happened, so will you say that it was not God who revealed these things to me?

3. A true witness who withstands this type of testing (from the Lord) and tempting (from the devil) doesn't look to put others down through insults and declaring OVER AND OVER they are that witness (which you have done). What they will be teaching is listening to the Lord speak to their (human) spirit from His (Holy) Spirit.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe



My answer:
You are right, but there is a difference between bringing fallacies down while making it clear to their propagators how hated their lies are by our good Lord, and making selfish attacks on persons. I do not attack people as such but their falsehood. I will ask you what the following words in the Bible means (Mark 3:5):

And when he had looked round about on them WITH ANGER, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts
 Quoting: The Bible


Is being angry at seeing people's dishonesty sin? Then I have sinned!

You also ought to know that we are now living before the great tribulation comes upon the whole world to annihilate sinners from the face of earth, so now are the days come of God's wrath, and He announces it to you through His witnesses, so that you have a chance to escape, as you can see from Isa 30:27-28:

Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his TONGUE as a devouring fire: And his BREATH, as an overflowing stream, shall reach to the midst of the neck, to sift the nations with the sieve of vanity: and there shall be a bridle in the jaws of the people, causing them to err.
 Quoting: The Bible


Compare this scripture with 2 Thes 2:8:

And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming
 Quoting: The Bible


You sure know that God's witnesses are His tongue through which He warns people.


4. The scriptures say to be wise as a serpent but harmless as a dove. The strategy this requires is from seeking how to draw people TO THE LORD. The Lord is the author of strategy and is a strategic mastermind. Jesus knew how to approach every single person due to His listening intently to what The Spirit told him to say and do.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe



My answer:
This is true of ordinary serpents but not so of burning serpents which Scripture calls seraphs. The burning serpents are described in the following verse (Isa 14:29):

Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.
 Quoting: The Bible


The reason is that the burning serpents are end time messengers of fierceness, harbingers of God's coming wrath. They must be fiery because falsehood has filled the earth.

5. Your arrogance and insults are not of the Lord nor are they having any impact other than to show you as a gloryseeking selfish person.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
If my words have no impact then I am experiencing what God's witnesses went through also in former times. Read for instance these words (Jer 7:26-28):

Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers. Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them; but they will not hearken to thee: thou shalt also call unto them; but they will not answer thee. But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their MOUTH

Also, if telling the truth is arrogance then I am arrogant in your eyes. There is though another perspective given in Scripture, for if you read Psalm 149:9 you find these words:

To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints.
 Quoting: The Bible


Notice that they executee the jugment written! Where is it written if not in the Bible's prophecies? So, how do you know that what is their honour is not their arrogance in your opinion?

6. Declaring what nation the witnesses will be located in merely is out of selfish motives. By doing this, you are feeding into selfishness and pride. What nation this happens in is NOT known by anyone but the FATHER HIMSELF.....
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
Did I ever declare a specific country and not the north (country), as Scripture itself does? Let us look at what is foretold, and I hope you accept what Scripture shows you:

I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
 Quoting: The Bible
(Isa 41:25)

Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
 Quoting: The Bible
(Zec 6:8)

Is it not clear that God will start His uplifting from the north (country)? Could it be the west, USA, or the south or east? If so, why does the Bible's prophecies exclude that possibility, as you can see with your own eyes from Psalm 75:6:

For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
 Quoting: The Bible


I now think that I have answered clearly to your points of view.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

(I made some small changes in this answer to be more clear)
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PerJeshua, I'm going to tell you exactly why you are not and can not be one of God's chosen end time witnesses.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


Well then, speak and let us hear your sound reasoning!

1. You are going around telling everyone you are that witness. The real 2 witnesses will not know thye have been chosen. The reason for this will be to prevent the human nature of these two to be overcome with pride and arrogance- Both of which you are filled with...
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
You are supposing something that does not hold water. First, I am not going around telling everyone etc., as though this were my mission. No, what I do is saying to people that what I have to tell is very important for everyone's salvation, for what people hear elsewhere are the fallacies of the fallen-away church, and since I am God's witness I am capable of showing them the way Our Saviour Jesus Christ. When you say that "the real 2 witnesses will not know they have been chosen" you are in fact saying that in spite of standing before the Lord of the earth (Rev 11:4) they are oblivious of God's presence! In doing so you deny what Scripture reveals, namely this (Rom 8:16):

The Spirit himself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are children of God
 Quoting: The Bible


You are also in error when you believe that obliviousness protects against pride and arrogance. The reason is that in Mark 7:22 it is showed to us that foolishness is sin, such as you say that the real 2 witnesses are infested with in spite of standing before the Lord. Do you not see how stupid you are?

2. A true witness is one who has been with God and understands His nature, His heart, His purposes. A person who has this much understanding has spent much of their life being lied against, mistreated- both before and during their walk with the Lord.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
Thank you, for you are describing my life. I have been mocked, backbited, thrown out of religious meetings, but still our Lord put a stamp in my heart as early as at my being 5 years old. I am not telling you that I am exceptional, not at all, but that in spite of me often having failed God always took my hand and gave me new hope. For so many years I walked in complete darkness, crying from the depth of my heart to God Almighty, and asking for guidance while not seeing the way. God even brought me to the gates of hell and let me hear the voices of immense sorrow and despair, and He showed me future events that were told by me to people before happening. I even saw Bobby Kennedy being killed before it happened, so will you say that it was not God who revealed these things to me?

3. A true witness who withstands this type of testing (from the Lord) and tempting (from the devil) doesn't look to put others down through insults and declaring OVER AND OVER they are that witness (which you have done). What they will be teaching is listening to the Lord speak to their (human) spirit from His (Holy) Spirit.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe



My answer:
You are right, but there is a difference between bringing fallacies down while making it clear to their propagators how hated their lies are by our good Lord, and making selfish attacks on persons. I do not attack people as such but their falsehood. I will ask you what the following words in the Bible means (Mark 3:5):

And when he had looked round about on them WITH ANGER, being grieved for the hardness of their hearts
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Is being angry at seeing people's dishonesty sin? Then I have sinned!

You also ought to know that we are now living before the great tribulation comes upon the whole world to annihilate sinners from the face of earth, so now are the days come of God's wrath, and He announces it to you through His witnesses, so that you have a chance to escape, as you can see from Isa 30:27-28:

Behold, the name of the LORD cometh from far, burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his TONGUE as a devouring fire: And his BREATH, as an overflowing stream, shall reach to the midst of the neck, to sift the nations with the sieve of vanity: and there shall be a bridle in the jaws of the people, causing them to err.
 Quoting: The Bible


Compare this scripture with 2 Thes 2:8:

And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming
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You sure know that God's witnesses are His tongue through which He warns people.


4. The scriptures say to be wise as a serpent but harmless as a dove. The strategy this requires is from seeking how to draw people TO THE LORD. The Lord is the author of strategy and is a strategic mastermind. Jesus knew how to approach every single person due to His listening intently to what The Spirit told him to say and do.
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My answer:
This is true of ordinary serpents but not so of burning serpents which Scripture calls seraphs. The burning serpents are described in the following verse (Isa 14:29):

Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.
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The reason is that the burning serpents are end time messengers of fierceness, harbingers of God's coming wrath. They must be fiery because falsehood has filled the earth.

5. Your arrogance and insults are not of the Lord nor are they having any impact other than to show you as a gloryseeking selfish person.
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My answer:
If my words have no impact then I am experiencing what God's witnesses went through also in former times. Read for instance these words (Jer 7:26-28):

Yet they hearkened not unto me, nor inclined their ear, but hardened their neck: they did worse than their fathers. Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them; but they will not hearken to thee: thou shalt also call unto them; but they will not answer thee. But thou shalt say unto them, This is a nation that obeyeth not the voice of the LORD their God, nor receiveth correction: truth is perished, and is cut off from their MOUTH
 Quoting: The Bible


Also, if telling the truth is arrogance then I am arrogant in your eyes. There is though another perspective given in Scripture, for if you read Psalm 149:9 you find these words:

To execute upon them the judgment written: this honour have all his saints.
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Notice that they executee the jugment written! Where is it written if not in the Bible's prophecies? So, how do you know that what is their honour is not their arrogance in your opinion?

6. Declaring what nation the witnesses will be located in merely is out of selfish motives. By doing this, you are feeding into selfishness and pride. What nation this happens in is NOT known by anyone but the FATHER HIMSELF.....
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My answer:
Did I ever declare a specific country and not the north (country), as Scripture itself does? Let us look at what is foretold, and I hope you accept what Scripture shows you:

I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
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(Isa 41:25)

Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
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(Zec 6:8)

Is it not clear that God will start His uplifting from the north (country)? Could it be the west, USA, or the south or east? If so, why does the Bible's prophecies exclude that possibility, as you can see with your own eyes from Psalm 75:6:

For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
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I now think that I have answered clearly to your points of view.

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(I made some small changes in this answer to be more clear)
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In the dream I just had, I was told to find a website called Godlike. I have never before heard of, nor have I ever visited this place. I must apologize in advance if I offend anyone, I don't even know the rules for posting here. I am not even sure if this message will make it to anyone.

So as I was saying, in this dream I was told to find the website Godlike. I google it and this is the first one that comes up, I can only assume this was the intended site, although it seems a little "out there" for my tastes. I'm just following what I was told in the dream.

I was told to find this website (the one referred to as Godlike) and post that the two witnesses? ( a term I am not really familiar with ) are alive here and now, and they are visiting the same website I was referred to. So that is what I am doing. I was supposed to come here and say something along the lines of "The witnesses have arrived, They do not yet know who they are, or that they are the witnesses. They visit the site Godlike."

It was a very powerful dream, so I can only hope this has some meaning to someone out there in internet land.

Thank you for your time.

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The two witnesses are the Old and New Testaments.
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PJ the pleb.
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Hello JustYourAverageJoe,

I feel compelled to tell you that you contradict yourself in what you say in your point one (1) and point two (2) against me.

Let us take a look at this fact!

1. You are going around telling everyone you are that witness. The real 2 witnesses will not know they have been chosen. The reason for this will be to prevent the human nature of these two to be overcome with pride and arrogance- Both of which you are filled with...
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Here you say that the witnesses will not know that they are chosen. How can it be in keeping with what you say next, in your second point of view? Let us read what you say next:

2. A true witness is one who has been with God and understands His nature, His heart, His purposes. A person who has this much understanding has spent much of their life being lied against, mistreated- both before and during their walk with the Lord.
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So, why do you contradict yourself? This shows that I am not the one who is confused but you, and that fact you ought to realize, if you are an honest person. And in realizing it you also ought to stop being so cocksure of my being false! If you are true and I false, why can I refute your accusations this easily? Give it a second thought for your own sake, please, thouh it may be a sore thing! I say it for truths sake and not with the intention to hurt you! Believe me, please, for I am God's true witness speaking to you!

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Dear you,

Let me tell you a serious thing which you will soon notice.

Our Lord, who is good and want good things to be promoted, and no bad things, especially for the young, is very angry with the film industry, for it promotes evil examples for people to follow in their lives.

Therefore, listen, while truth is gone our God Lord will let your iniguity conquer you at every quarter, and what you fear He will let you meet. Since you left truth and good examples, decency and whatever is good, our God will start visiting you with examples of your iniquity, which means that He will let you meet your own Satanic mindset in life more and more often.

When the stern days of God's wrath become more and more evident you will start hating God's true people, who have their recourse to the everlasting gospel, and you will throw them out from their houses, treat them as scapegoats, but listen, God Almighty will make your doom a double one for your hate of justice, and because you never paid a second thought in spite of God having given you thinking brains and all the university for you by which to accept His grandeur.

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And, in addition, it is a lie that the year 2012 will be the end. Listen, only when God's true witnesses tell you it will happen, and not before, for in our hands are given the keys of destruction, whether you believe it or not.
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Dear you,

The monetary system of the major countries in the world is a system of exploitation, through which people in positions steal from honest working people and the poor.

There are three pillars of injustice in today's world, namely that of false indoctrination, that of economic exploitation, and that of unjust military brutality. If the first one does not work they use the second one, and if the second one does not work they use the third one, but the Lord will use against them the unknown fourth metod, poor devils!

Listen you people of peace, for God Almighty is going to break into smithereens all these three pillars, and throw the propagators of these unjust methods into hell.

On the last day they shall stand trembling in despair on the left side of the Lord and hear his verdict (Mat 25:41):

Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels.
 Quoting: The Bible


For God Almighty will punish injustice!

Therefore, leave falsehood and unrighteousness and live, otherwise die an eternal death!

Greetings from
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Smithereens, huh?
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Dear you,

Let me tell you more about what our good Lord hates.

He hates that people in power steal what in fact belongs to all people, for instance the access to resources and what nature at large means to people who always depended on it.

God hates it when rich people and exploiters send brutes and killers to pave the way for their further advancement of injustice at the cost of poor people.

Let it be told in clear language: Such people, such exploiters, will be the most pitiable of all mankind when justice is finally brought to weigh heavily in human relations, for our good Lord is now coming with the firm intent to remove all who harass those people who are of simple but good mind, i.e. to live by honest work while also being nice and just to one another.

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Dear you,

Let me tell you more about what our good Lord hates.

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Not dear you,

Let me tell you what else He hates.

Lies in His Name.
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Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.
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Dear you,

Let me tell you more about what our good Lord hates.

 Quoting: PehJeshuah 27856226


Not dear you,

Let me tell you what else He hates.

Lies in His Name.
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I swear in the name of God Almighty that the devils know my calling and fear and hate it, so they therefore prepare themselves for the final battle, also in order to kill you with their deception.

What you dare imply no devil would dare to, so therefore you are just blind and totally deceived by those evil powers who know better!

Greetings from
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The true words of God's witnesses cannot be refuted but will conquer the whole earth, either for people to live or die!

Take it or leave it, for you are nevertheless given the chance to know better!
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You are the very definition of vanity.
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Your threats against me are, like you, utterly impotent.
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Jesus Christ is Lord.
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You are the very definition of vanity.
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That is a word all too weak, for I am immensely more worse than you do understand at this moment.

While you are deaf and blind the devils tremble in extreme fear, seing the witness of God coming forth to do what he is destined to do after the Bible's prophecy.

They hate my appearance as do also their disciples, though oblivious of my calling, for it is still hidden to you.

If your were not of them you would love my appearance and my true words and irrefutable testimony, but, alas, since you are lost and in the grips of devils you oppose me and call me names.

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You are the very definition of vanity.
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That is a word all too weak, for I am immensely more worse than you do understand at this moment.

While you are deaf and blind the devils tremble in extreme fear, seing the witness of God coming forth to do what he is destined to do after the Bible's prophecy.

They hate my appearance as do also their disciples, though oblivious of my calling, for it is still hidden to you.

If your were not of them you would love my appearance and my true words and irrefutable testimony, but, alas, since you are lost and in the grips of devils you oppose me and call me names.

Greetings from
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Jesus Christ is Lord.
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Your threats against me are, like you, utterly impotent.
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Threats?

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You are dust, a vapor, here a little while, then gone.
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You are the very definition of vanity.
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That is a word all too weak, for I am immensely more worse than you do understand at this moment.

While you are deaf and blind the devils tremble in extreme fear, seing the witness of God coming forth to do what he is destined to do after the Bible's prophecy.

They hate my appearance as do also their disciples, though oblivious of my calling, for it is still hidden to you.

If your were not of them you would love my appearance and my true words and irrefutable testimony, but, alas, since you are lost and in the grips of devils you oppose me and call me names.

Greetings from
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Jesus Christ is Lord.
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That is what I tell you but you do not believe it, that He sent me against falsehood, yours also!

Whose Lord is he, if not mine, for I am foretold in Scripture and not you!!!

Can your vanity take it or will you die in devilish opposition because of that? Take care, for I speak what is true while you are brought up in lies.

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I am nobody, just like you, but without a pretentious name.

You are irrelevant and unnecessary, but have great difficulty dealing with your insignificance. Deal with it.
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That is what I tell you but you do not believe it, that He sent me against falsehood, yours also!

Whose Lord is he, if not mine, for I am foretold in Scripture and not you!!!

Can your vanity take it or will you die in devilish opposition because of that? Take care, for I speak what is true while you are brought up in lies.

Greetings from
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Jesus Christ is Lord.