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I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

 
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Hi Michael,
In regard to this, I found this article to be particularly interesting. Ironically, I came across it a couple days ago.

[link to realtruth.org]

I hope you are well!
RockyMtnLady
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Hi RockyMtnLady,

I'm doing well thank you, hope UR2!

Yes David Pack and the RCG provide some very good info, and the truth to much of the deception within the Churches today. I like what I hear from them and it meshes greatly with what I was told in 1975 when I received the 999 mark.

I encourage you to watch the RCG Beast of Revelation video series at least, you will then understand much of what is going on.

Blessings,

Michael.
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I specifically like what is said about the Two Witnesses:
"These men have not yet appeared. When they do, so will the Tribulation! Neither will arrive in the way popular opinion suggests. Many professing Christians believe that they will embrace these two men with excitement and rejoicing. However, in reality, the Bible shows most will almost certainly assume them to be the final beast and miracle-working False Prophet—and the beast and False Prophet may be received as the Two Witnesses! Such will be the power of the devil’s final deceit—and “popular prophetic thinking” is now setting up the “Christian” world for MASS DELUSION (II Thes. 2:10-11)!"

As you undoubtedly know, I know PJ to be one of the two witnesses and I have seen this happen to him!

RockyMtnLady
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Once one understands the Beast and that most of the "Christians" are already worshiping an Antichrist, it becomes quite clear why so many will hate them and even rejoice upon their deaths. When God calls them and they rise up many will be shocked, some may even accept that the witnesses did indeed tell them the truth. Many however will still be deceived by the great lies that the AC (world leader) and False prophet will spew out.

It is the Truth they will bring (a witness is one who brings the truth) that everyone will hate. What is more hated than when you are told the truth and it’s against what you were taught, and even more importantly what you came to believe in?

I encourage you (and everyone) to keep searching and learning about the truth, the 144,000 will all know it, and they will be keepers of God’s commandments.

Is PJ one of the witnesses? I hope so, but he needs to start spreading the truth along with the real gospel.
The real gospel is the message that Yeshua taught about the Kingdom of God.

Blessings
Michael.
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Hi Michael,
The gospel is the Kingdom of God, that which Christ was a messenger so I agree with you. The everlasting gospel that PJ has put forth is also the Kingdom of God...it is just detailing how to be "saved." I hope and pray people see this....he (PJ) is not bringing forth a "different gospel" instead, he is expounding and clarifying on the original gospel.

God Bless everyone,
RockyMtnLady
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Does anyone speak in 'tongues' here? How about experiences that you would call 'supernatural', or even prophecies you've received? Feel free to share, I'd be interested to learn about them.
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Does anyone speak in 'tongues' here? How about experiences that you would call 'supernatural', or even prophecies you've received? Feel free to share, I'd be interested to learn about them.
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you can email me at mikerking@msn.com and I'll send you what has happened to me and what I have been shown.
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Let it be known all whom beare false witness shall mourn.
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PerJesuha, I hope this does not come across as a personal attack but there are some things that have caused me to have concern over your insistence that you have been chosen as one of God's Two Witnesses; that are spoken about in Revelation...

As a believer, you should know the position you have placed yourself in is not a position the Lord takes kindly to those who prophesy without the knowledge of things that have not been revealed by His (Spirit) as of this time.

You have to be careful as you are spending (PerJeshua) most of your time trying to convince other Christians (like yourself) that you have the authority that is Christ's alone. Get ahold of yourself and begin repenting of this before His protection is removed from you.

To put this in perspective, is the reason that you're driving yourself to the point that you've reached a point of (spirtual) frustration because you're causing confusion to other believers who you have convinced that your message has been granted by the First and the Last?

Does it seem as if burning the candle at both ends hasn't brought a positive answer that you; (PerJeshua) have so desperately tried to answer without the Spirit of Truth revealing this to you?

As a person who has alot of Christian-zeal; have you considered that if you are truly one of God's final two witnesses, revelation should be flowing of your words without being accompanied with the types of frustrations that have been your achilles heal?

Of all the things that you have made yourself to be, is the reason you are convinced to be God's witness as a result of a father's wound?

As revelation has not revealed the answers to these questions, as a Christian who has learned how to simply enjoy how good it is to enter into a revealed relationship with the Lord; I can at least tell you that my hope has to be energized the Lord's perspective and never on what makes me as though whatever I say better be constant revelation. Jesus (as the Christ) was allowed to live as a Spirit-filled expression of human understanding that without COMPLETELY depending upon His (heavenly) Father to let Him experience the things that you and I go through (PerJeshua); feelings of abandonment, people lying to and behind you, frustrations, joys, hopes, THESE things gave Jesus the authority to respect His disciples when they used the scriptures to ask Him who's the greatest disciple of them all...

PerJeshua, I implore you if you continue to pretend to fill as if you have to spread this message as if you can do it without the Spirit's leading; the days will ahead the Lord will make it very clear (through some difficult circumstances) to you that your time you've spent spreading the type of message you have spread was completely waste of time.

Christ is the one you need to lay yourself before. He will bless you for your simple willingness to let Him be your Shephard, PerJeshua. Remember, if our weakest moments is usually where we are able to see God most clearly as our strength....
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God has a last day servant and it is the 2nd witness of revelation the other witness is Elijah and the 2nd is always greater than the first (John and Jesus) Elijah and the last day servant..you can see the last day servant in revelation 14 reaping the harvest: Jesus is Revelation 19 being He has many crowns and is called the "Word of God" and KING of KINGS and LORD of LORDS, but the guy in Revelation 14 only has one crown on and an angel has to tell him when to reap the harvest(would an angel ever have to tell Jesus when to do something,,NEVER, Jesus made that angel



Revelation 14:
The Harvest of the Earth

14I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one “like a son of man” with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.

Revelation 19:
Nobody is telling Jesus to do anything because he knows everything

11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God(Jesus is the Word). 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”a He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
 Quoting: waterman

Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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Dear you,

Let me answer and comment on what you write.

PerJesuha, I hope this does not come across as a personal attack but there are some things that have caused me to have concern over your insistence that you have been chosen as one of God's Two Witnesses; that are spoken about in Revelation...
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
Of course, if what we speak is not according to Holy Scripture we are in fact asking to be attacked in person, for truth cannot be blamed for what we do in that case. Since you are concerned about me not being what I tell you, since I tell it, there must be legitimate reasons for you to doubt, first and foremost from Holy Scripture. With your having such reasons I hope you will share them with all who visit this thread on GLP.

As a believer, you should know the position you have placed yourself in is not a position the Lord takes kindly to those who prophesy without the knowledge of things that have not been revealed by His (Spirit) as of this time.
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My answer:
I wonder why you compare me with people who prophesy without the knowledge of things that have not been revealed by to them by God. Could you please point out those false prophecies that I have made myself guilty of! When you read about the two witnesses in the Bible do you learn that God makes prophets into witnesses or that God makes witnesses into prophets. If the last thing is true would you accuse any of the two witnesses of claiming to be prophets even before God has made them into prophets, as He promises. What I mean is this: Do you tell me that I claim that the two witnesses are prophets from the very beginning?


You have to be careful as you are spending (PerJeshua) most of your time trying to convince other Christians (like yourself) that you have the authority that is Christ's alone. Get ahold of yourself and begin repenting of this before His protection is removed from you.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
Listen, what I have written here on the thread are things found in the Holy Scripture, such as I have commented on and made more easily understood to people who care to listen. Even if only one person is willing to listen to what I say my efforts will not been in vain, for the angels of God will then have a good reason to rejoice. This is what Scripture says. My question to you is this: Where do I steal the authority of Christ? Will you please substantiate what you blame on me! You sure know that the two witnesses of Rev 11 will have power to shut the heaven and power over waters to turn them to blood, so I hope you do not accuse them of having stolen the authority that is Christ's alone! So as to make this scripture clear to you I will tell you that the waters meant that are turned into blood are false doctrines that deceive people. That power I have, since I can refute any fallacy that false teachers might dare to oppose me with. If they do not pay heed the heaven will be closed to them, for as you know from the Bible falsehood can save nobody. Therefore, since all true Christians have the power to shut the heaven according to the words you find in Mat 16:19, why not also the true two witnesses:

whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven
 Quoting: The Bible



To put this in perspective, is the reason that you're driving yourself to the point that you've reached a point of (spirtual) frustration because you're causing confusion to other believers who you have convinced that your message has been granted by the First and the Last?
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe



My answer:
Ask those who believe in what I say if they are confused or if the truth has become clear to them! Besides, I have not reached what you call "a point of (spiritual) frustration", for my words are not the words of a lost and frustrated person, and therefore they cannot be refuted, as all will experience who try to twist my words.

Does it seem as if burning the candle at both ends hasn't brought a positive answer that you; (PerJeshua) have so desperately tried to answer without the Spirit of Truth revealing this to you?
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe



My answer:
Ask those who read my words if my answers are according to Scripture or just rubbish, like that which false teachers propagate today! What is positive to angels will of course be negative to devils. Will you please explain to people what things the Spirit of Truth has not revealed to me, and I guess you say this because you can find instances that prove your words!

As a person who has alot of Christian-zeal; have you considered that if you are truly one of God's final two witnesses, revelation should be flowing of your words without being accompanied with the types of frustrations that have been your achilles heal?
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
Any examples, please?

Of all the things that you have made yourself to be, is the reason you are convinced to be God's witness as a result of a father's wound?
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
Listen, open the book of Zech and read what he foretells about the two witnesses, then you will see that the work was God's and not the work of man. Will you accuse a true witness of God of having chosen himself, is that your aim?


As revelation has not revealed the answers to these questions, as a Christian who has learned how to simply enjoy how good it is to enter into a revealed relationship with the Lord; I can at least tell you that my hope has to be energized the Lord's perspective and never on what makes me as though whatever I say better be constant revelation. Jesus (as the Christ) was allowed to live as a Spirit-filled expression of human understanding that without COMPLETELY depending upon His (heavenly) Father to let Him experience the things that you and I go through (PerJeshua); feelings of abandonment, people lying to and behind you, frustrations, joys, hopes, THESE things gave Jesus the authority to respect His disciples when they used the scriptures to ask Him who's the greatest disciple of them all...
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
So, since you are now telling that the book of Revelation has not revealed the answers to these questions to you as a Christian, I cannot find you to be one among God's servants on the basis of the following scripture (Rev 1:1):

to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass
 Quoting: The Bible


In spite of not being among God's servants you seem to accuse me of claiming to be the greatest of disciples, which is just your own backbiting.

PerJeshua, I implore you if you continue to pretend to fill as if you have to spread this message as if you can do it without the Spirit's leading; the days will ahead the Lord will make it very clear (through some difficult circumstances) to you that your time you've spent spreading the type of message you have spread was completely waste of time.
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
What are these words of yours: "if you CONTINUE to pretend to (...)"? What have I pretended and what is your scriptural basis for saying such a thing?

Christ is the one you need to lay yourself before. He will bless you for your simple willingness to let Him be your Shephard, PerJeshua. Remember, if our weakest moments is usually where we are able to see God most clearly as our strength....
 Quoting: JustYourAverageJoe


My answer:
If you had ever read my article on "Baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel" you would not be able to infer from that Jesus Christ is not THE ONLY ONE on whom I base my faith and hope!

Everything that you have said are said after the will of an empty heart and a vain belief in God, such as now rules the earth.

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God has a last day servant and it is the 2nd witness of revelation the other witness is Elijah and the 2nd is always greater than the first (John and Jesus) Elijah and the last day servant..you can see the last day servant in revelation 14 reaping the harvest: Jesus is Revelation 19 being He has many crowns and is called the "Word of God" and KING of KINGS and LORD of LORDS, but the guy in Revelation 14 only has one crown on and an angel has to tell him when to reap the harvest(would an angel ever have to tell Jesus when to do something,,NEVER, Jesus made that angel



Revelation 14:
The Harvest of the Earth

14I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one “like a son of man” with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.

Revelation 19:
Nobody is telling Jesus to do anything because he knows everything

11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God(Jesus is the Word). 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”a He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
 Quoting: waterman

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What you write is just confused words of a confused man, for you know nothing about the things foretold in the book of Revelation.

The true understanding is given to God's servants, so whoever twists the words of the book of Revelation is not of God, but a servant of the Devil.

Greetings from
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The woman from Rev 12 is Israel.


"A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. She was pregnant and cried out in pain as she was about to give birth. Then another sign appeared in heaven: an enormous red dragon with seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns on its heads. Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth. The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth, so that it might devour her child the moment he was born. She gave birth to a son, a male child, who “will rule all the nations with an iron scepter.”[a] And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne. The woman fled into the wilderness to a place prepared for her by God, where she might be taken care of for 1,260 days."

who is the child she gives birth to?


God has a last day servant and it is the 2nd witness of revelation the other witness is Elijah and the 2nd is always greater than the first (John and Jesus) Elijah and the last day servant..you can see the last day servant in revelation 14 reaping the harvest: Jesus is Revelation 19 being He has many crowns and is called the "Word of God" and KING of KINGS and LORD of LORDS, but the guy in Revelation 14 only has one crown on and an angel has to tell him when to reap the harvest(would an angel ever have to tell Jesus when to do something,,NEVER, Jesus made that angel



Revelation 14:
The Harvest of the Earth

14I looked, and there before me was a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was one “like a son of man” with a crown of gold on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15Then another angel came out of the temple and called in a loud voice to him who was sitting on the cloud, “Take your sickle and reap, because the time to reap has come, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16So he who was seated on the cloud swung his sickle over the earth, and the earth was harvested.

Revelation 19:
Nobody is telling Jesus to do anything because he knows everything

11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God(Jesus is the Word). 14The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”a He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty. 16On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

King of Kings and Lord of Lords.
 Quoting: waterman

 Quoting: waterman


The bible has a pattern of doing the physical first and then the spiritual. In the beginning Adam and Eve had physical children together. In the end the two witnesses will be a type of Adam and Eve bringing forth spiritual children In Zechariah we see Joshua and Zerubabbel building the temple, representing the two witnesses building the temple. God doesn't want a temple made of bricks, He had two of those and both were able to be destroyed. God wants people to accept what His Son Jesus did on the cross and repent. When a person does that they become the temple of God. The bible tells us there is a famine of the Word of God in the end, and these two witnesses are annointed to preach the Word so they will build the temple by spreading the Word of God about Jesus and each person will become the temple by receiving the salvation Jesus offers and as each person becomes a temple, the temple gets bigger and bigger. Again the bible shows the physical first and the spiritual second. If you know history about Israel it separated into two kingdoms after Solomon. The northern kingdom was called Israel and the southern kingdom Judah. Israel had 10 tribes and Judah had two. Assyrians came in and invaded the northern 10 tribes and they were never heard of again..135 years later the babylonians attacked the southern kingdom and took them into captivity. The difference is 70 year later the southern kingdom(Judah) regrouped and came together again, and is the Israel we know today. Those other ten tribes are in the Land of Milk and Honey(united states) just as God said he would place them. So if the 10 tribes of Israel are in the land of the United States then the people are the ones who make up Israel no matter what the land is called. America is the spiritual Israel because the 10 tribes live in the land of milk and honey. America is doing exactly what Israel did before judgement came and we will be destroyed and go into captivity just as the first physical Israel did, but God will raise up a deliverer just as he always does and send an Elijah with him. This last day servant will be Gods greatest servant because he will bring both houses of Israel 10 tribes and 2 tribes back together through the annointing God gives him. Look at Revelation 14 and you see this last day servant reaping the harvest and then look at revelation 19 and you can clearly see the difference between Jesus and the last day servant..it's posted at the top of the page. The woman about to give birth is spiritual Israel(united states)and the last day servant comes from there
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Hello again, waterman,

So you dare go on propagating your stupidity and ignorance of the true contents of the book of Revelation? Well then, let us look at what you say and weigh it in the scales of truth. You quote Rev 12 and ask:

who is the child she gives birth to?
 Quoting: waterman


My answer:
At least, there is one evident thing that has tremendous impact on your question, namely the fact that ever since it came the book of Revelation foretells things to happen and not things that had already happened when it was given to the servants of God. That is what is written in Rev 1:1, so it cannot be denied. Therefore, the woman who gives birth to the man child in Rev 12:5 is definitely not Mary, the woman who gave birth to Jesus, our Saviour.

The bible has a pattern of doing the physical first and then the spiritual. In the beginning Adam and Eve had physical children together. In the end the two witnesses will be a type of Adam and Eve bringing forth spiritual children In Zechariah we see Joshua and Zerubabbel building the temple, representing the two witnesses building the temple. God doesn't want a temple made of bricks, He had two of those and both were able to be destroyed. God wants people to accept what His Son Jesus did on the cross and repent. When a person does that they become the temple of God. The bible tells us there is a famine of the Word of God in the end, and these two witnesses are annointed to preach the Word so they will build the temple by spreading the Word of God about Jesus and each person will become the temple by receiving the salvation Jesus offers and as each person becomes a temple, the temple gets bigger and bigger. Again the bible shows the physical first and the spiritual second. If you know history about Israel it separated into two kingdoms after Solomon. The northern kingdom was called Israel and the southern kingdom Judah. Israel had 10 tribes and Judah had two. Assyrians came in and invaded the northern 10 tribes and they were never heard of again..135 years later the babylonians attacked the southern kingdom and took them into captivity. The difference is 70 year later the southern kingdom(Judah) regrouped and came together again, and is the Israel we know today. Those other ten tribes are in the Land of Milk and Honey(united states) just as God said he would place them. So if the 10 tribes of Israel are in the land of the United States then the people are the ones who make up Israel no matter what the land is called. America is the spiritual Israel because the 10 tribes live in the land of milk and honey. America is doing exactly what Israel did before judgement came and we will be destroyed and go into captivity just as the first physical Israel did, but God will raise up a deliverer just as he always does and send an Elijah with him. This last day servant will be Gods greatest servant because he will bring both houses of Israel 10 tribes and 2 tribes back together through the annointing God gives him. Look at Revelation 14 and you see this last day servant reaping the harvest and then look at revelation 19 and you can clearly see the difference between Jesus and the last day servant..it's posted at the top of the page. The woman about to give birth is spiritual Israel(united states)and the last day servant comes from there
 Quoting: waterman


My answer:
You ought to read Scripture in humility and prayers to God, that He show you the truth, instead of contradicting His words. Your claim that the woman in Rev 12 is USA is just ridiculous rubbish, for while USA has 50 stars this woman has only 12 stars. USA has never, spiritually speaking, had the moon "under her feet", nor been "clothed with the sun". While the woman in Rev is being protected and will finally return to "her place" (Rev 12:14), being truthful, USA is seen to be the origin of many major false churches that spread their poison worldwide, among which are Mormonism, Christian Science, Seventh-day Adventism, and Jehovah's witnesses.

That the true witness of God will come from USA is also rubbish, for USA is in the west, where the sun sets, while the true witness of God is raised up from the north country, which is therefore called "the rising of the sun" (namely (the place of) the rising of God's truth), as can be seen when Psalm 75:6, Isa 41:25, Psalm 48:2, and Zech 6:8 are compared:

For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
 Quoting: The Bible


I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
 Quoting: The Bible


Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.
 Quoting: The Bible


Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
 Quoting: The Bible


Also, in saying that God will bring Israel and Judah together you are contradicting the Bible, for in Zech 11:14 it is foretold that God will, on the contrary, "break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel" in the NT time period. These words cannot be applied to the ten tribes of historical Israel, for they are gone forever. What is called "Israel" in Zech 11:14 is in biblical prophecy the fallen-away Christianity of today.

You seem to claim that one of the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 is our Lord himself, but such a claim is downright a fallacy.

The two witnesses are foretold to sit on either side of Jesus Christ, so you are totally wrong. Read the following text in the Bible and become convinced that I tell you the truth!

Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom. But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
 Quoting: The Bible


Pay heed to the truth that I tell you in order that God may heal you, or, else, accept the mark of the beast!

Greetings from
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Let it be known all whom beare false witness shall mourn.
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Therefore, my friend, let us always speak the truth, and let us therefore always base everythng we say be said on the firm foundation of the truth given to us by God!

I am glad that you agree with me, that false witnesses will mourn in the end. Thank you for your support!

And thank you for being honest!

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Hello again, waterman,

So you dare go on propagating your stupidity and ignorance of the true contents of the book of Revelation? Well then, let us look at what you say and weigh it in the scales of truth. You quote Rev 12 and ask:

who is the child she gives birth to?
 Quoting: waterman


My answer:
At least, there is one evident thing that has tremendous impact on your question, namely the fact that ever since it came the book of Revelation foretells things to happen and not things that had already happened when it was given to the servants of God. That is what is written in Rev 1:1, so it cannot be denied. Therefore, the woman who gives birth to the man child in Rev 12:5 is definitely not Mary, the woman who gave birth to Jesus, our Saviour.

The bible has a pattern of doing the physical first and then the spiritual. In the beginning Adam and Eve had physical children together. In the end the two witnesses will be a type of Adam and Eve bringing forth spiritual children In Zechariah we see Joshua and Zerubabbel building the temple, representing the two witnesses building the temple. God doesn't want a temple made of bricks, He had two of those and both were able to be destroyed. God wants people to accept what His Son Jesus did on the cross and repent. When a person does that they become the temple of God. The bible tells us there is a famine of the Word of God in the end, and these two witnesses are annointed to preach the Word so they will build the temple by spreading the Word of God about Jesus and each person will become the temple by receiving the salvation Jesus offers and as each person becomes a temple, the temple gets bigger and bigger. Again the bible shows the physical first and the spiritual second. If you know history about Israel it separated into two kingdoms after Solomon. The northern kingdom was called Israel and the southern kingdom Judah. Israel had 10 tribes and Judah had two. Assyrians came in and invaded the northern 10 tribes and they were never heard of again..135 years later the babylonians attacked the southern kingdom and took them into captivity. The difference is 70 year later the southern kingdom(Judah) regrouped and came together again, and is the Israel we know today. Those other ten tribes are in the Land of Milk and Honey(united states) just as God said he would place them. So if the 10 tribes of Israel are in the land of the United States then the people are the ones who make up Israel no matter what the land is called. America is the spiritual Israel because the 10 tribes live in the land of milk and honey. America is doing exactly what Israel did before judgement came and we will be destroyed and go into captivity just as the first physical Israel did, but God will raise up a deliverer just as he always does and send an Elijah with him. This last day servant will be Gods greatest servant because he will bring both houses of Israel 10 tribes and 2 tribes back together through the annointing God gives him. Look at Revelation 14 and you see this last day servant reaping the harvest and then look at revelation 19 and you can clearly see the difference between Jesus and the last day servant..it's posted at the top of the page. The woman about to give birth is spiritual Israel(united states)and the last day servant comes from there
 Quoting: waterman


My answer:
You ought to read Scripture in humility and prayers to God, that He show you the truth, instead of contradicting His words. Your claim that the woman in Rev 12 is USA is just ridiculous rubbish, for while USA has 50 stars this woman has only 12 stars. USA has never, spiritually speaking, had the moon "under her feet", nor been "clothed with the sun". While the woman in Rev is being protected and will finally return to "her place" (Rev 12:14), being truthful, USA is seen to be the origin of many major false churches that spread their poison worldwide, among which are Mormonism, Christian Science, Seventh-day Adventism, and Jehovah's witnesses.

That the true witness of God will come from USA is also rubbish, for USA is in the west, where the sun sets, while the true witness of God is raised up from the north country, which is therefore called "the rising of the sun" (namely (the place of) the rising of God's truth), as can be seen when Psalm 75:6, Isa 41:25, Psalm 48:2, and Zech 6:8 are compared:

For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
 Quoting: The Bible


I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
 Quoting: The Bible


Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.
 Quoting: The Bible


Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
 Quoting: The Bible


Also, in saying that God will bring Israel and Judah together you are contradicting the Bible, for in Zech 11:14 it is foretold that God will, on the contrary, "break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel" in the NT time period. These words cannot be applied to the ten tribes of historical Israel, for they are gone forever. What is called "Israel" in Zech 11:14 is in biblical prophecy the fallen-away Christianity of today.

You seem to claim that one of the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 is our Lord himself, but such a claim is downright a fallacy.

The two witnesses are foretold to sit on either side of Jesus Christ, so you are totally wrong. Read the following text in the Bible and become convinced that I tell you the truth!

Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom. But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
 Quoting: The Bible


Pay heed to the truth that I tell you in order that God may heal you, or, else, accept the mark of the beast!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 27455920


The two houses of Israel will be joined together again that is why the bible says "all of Israel" will be saved. The last day servant brings those two houses together and it shows it in Ezekiel 37:

11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

15 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,

16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:

17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?

19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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Dear you,

I hope you will come back with your honest opinion as to what I have answered to you.

Please, believe me, that what I wrote was not intended to be an unfriendly answer to you.

I have myself experienced much scorn because of being what I was and still am, so I have learnt that it is sheer stupidity to overlook a fellow human being, even with his or her shortcomings, since everyone has a part to impart of the total knowledge of humanity.

So, please, do not misunderstand me!

Let our conversation be that of respect for one another as human beings and brothers and sisters. Woe, this reminds me of all my failures through the years of my life!

Best wishes
from PehJeshuah
who the Lord brought to the gates of hell
from where he heard the fate of iniquity.

Woe to me if I do not get across to you to tell you the eternal truth of God as revealed to me for that aim, that you one day may praise our God, for such is my sorrow and wish!
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Hello again, waterman,

So you dare go on propagating your stupidity and ignorance of the true contents of the book of Revelation? Well then, let us look at what you say and weigh it in the scales of truth. You quote Rev 12 and ask:

who is the child she gives birth to?
 Quoting: waterman


My answer:
At least, there is one evident thing that has tremendous impact on your question, namely the fact that ever since it came the book of Revelation foretells things to happen and not things that had already happened when it was given to the servants of God. That is what is written in Rev 1:1, so it cannot be denied. Therefore, the woman who gives birth to the man child in Rev 12:5 is definitely not Mary, the woman who gave birth to Jesus, our Saviour.

The bible has a pattern of doing the physical first and then the spiritual. In the beginning Adam and Eve had physical children together. In the end the two witnesses will be a type of Adam and Eve bringing forth spiritual children In Zechariah we see Joshua and Zerubabbel building the temple, representing the two witnesses building the temple. God doesn't want a temple made of bricks, He had two of those and both were able to be destroyed. God wants people to accept what His Son Jesus did on the cross and repent. When a person does that they become the temple of God. The bible tells us there is a famine of the Word of God in the end, and these two witnesses are annointed to preach the Word so they will build the temple by spreading the Word of God about Jesus and each person will become the temple by receiving the salvation Jesus offers and as each person becomes a temple, the temple gets bigger and bigger. Again the bible shows the physical first and the spiritual second. If you know history about Israel it separated into two kingdoms after Solomon. The northern kingdom was called Israel and the southern kingdom Judah. Israel had 10 tribes and Judah had two. Assyrians came in and invaded the northern 10 tribes and they were never heard of again..135 years later the babylonians attacked the southern kingdom and took them into captivity. The difference is 70 year later the southern kingdom(Judah) regrouped and came together again, and is the Israel we know today. Those other ten tribes are in the Land of Milk and Honey(united states) just as God said he would place them. So if the 10 tribes of Israel are in the land of the United States then the people are the ones who make up Israel no matter what the land is called. America is the spiritual Israel because the 10 tribes live in the land of milk and honey. America is doing exactly what Israel did before judgement came and we will be destroyed and go into captivity just as the first physical Israel did, but God will raise up a deliverer just as he always does and send an Elijah with him. This last day servant will be Gods greatest servant because he will bring both houses of Israel 10 tribes and 2 tribes back together through the annointing God gives him. Look at Revelation 14 and you see this last day servant reaping the harvest and then look at revelation 19 and you can clearly see the difference between Jesus and the last day servant..it's posted at the top of the page. The woman about to give birth is spiritual Israel(united states)and the last day servant comes from there
 Quoting: waterman


My answer:
You ought to read Scripture in humility and prayers to God, that He show you the truth, instead of contradicting His words. Your claim that the woman in Rev 12 is USA is just ridiculous rubbish, for while USA has 50 stars this woman has only 12 stars. USA has never, spiritually speaking, had the moon "under her feet", nor been "clothed with the sun". While the woman in Rev is being protected and will finally return to "her place" (Rev 12:14), being truthful, USA is seen to be the origin of many major false churches that spread their poison worldwide, among which are Mormonism, Christian Science, Seventh-day Adventism, and Jehovah's witnesses.

That the true witness of God will come from USA is also rubbish, for USA is in the west, where the sun sets, while the true witness of God is raised up from the north country, which is therefore called "the rising of the sun" (namely (the place of) the rising of God's truth), as can be seen when Psalm 75:6, Isa 41:25, Psalm 48:2, and Zech 6:8 are compared:

For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
 Quoting: The Bible


I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
 Quoting: The Bible


Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.
 Quoting: The Bible


Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
 Quoting: The Bible


Also, in saying that God will bring Israel and Judah together you are contradicting the Bible, for in Zech 11:14 it is foretold that God will, on the contrary, "break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel" in the NT time period. These words cannot be applied to the ten tribes of historical Israel, for they are gone forever. What is called "Israel" in Zech 11:14 is in biblical prophecy the fallen-away Christianity of today.

You seem to claim that one of the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 is our Lord himself, but such a claim is downright a fallacy.

The two witnesses are foretold to sit on either side of Jesus Christ, so you are totally wrong. Read the following text in the Bible and become convinced that I tell you the truth!

Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom. But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
 Quoting: The Bible


Pay heed to the truth that I tell you in order that God may heal you, or, else, accept the mark of the beast!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 27455920


The two houses of Israel will be joined together again that is why the bible says "all of Israel" will be saved. The last day servant brings those two houses together and it shows it in Ezekiel 37:

11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

15 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,

16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:

17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?

19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
 Quoting: waterman


Hello,

The words that you quote in bold face letters, would you please tell what you think they mean!

Greetings from
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Hello again, waterman,

So you dare go on propagating your stupidity and ignorance of the true contents of the book of Revelation? Well then, let us look at what you say and weigh it in the scales of truth. You quote Rev 12 and ask:

who is the child she gives birth to?
 Quoting: waterman


My answer:
At least, there is one evident thing that has tremendous impact on your question, namely the fact that ever since it came the book of Revelation foretells things to happen and not things that had already happened when it was given to the servants of God. That is what is written in Rev 1:1, so it cannot be denied. Therefore, the woman who gives birth to the man child in Rev 12:5 is definitely not Mary, the woman who gave birth to Jesus, our Saviour.

The bible has a pattern of doing the physical first and then the spiritual. In the beginning Adam and Eve had physical children together. In the end the two witnesses will be a type of Adam and Eve bringing forth spiritual children In Zechariah we see Joshua and Zerubabbel building the temple, representing the two witnesses building the temple. God doesn't want a temple made of bricks, He had two of those and both were able to be destroyed. God wants people to accept what His Son Jesus did on the cross and repent. When a person does that they become the temple of God. The bible tells us there is a famine of the Word of God in the end, and these two witnesses are annointed to preach the Word so they will build the temple by spreading the Word of God about Jesus and each person will become the temple by receiving the salvation Jesus offers and as each person becomes a temple, the temple gets bigger and bigger. Again the bible shows the physical first and the spiritual second. If you know history about Israel it separated into two kingdoms after Solomon. The northern kingdom was called Israel and the southern kingdom Judah. Israel had 10 tribes and Judah had two. Assyrians came in and invaded the northern 10 tribes and they were never heard of again..135 years later the babylonians attacked the southern kingdom and took them into captivity. The difference is 70 year later the southern kingdom(Judah) regrouped and came together again, and is the Israel we know today. Those other ten tribes are in the Land of Milk and Honey(united states) just as God said he would place them. So if the 10 tribes of Israel are in the land of the United States then the people are the ones who make up Israel no matter what the land is called. America is the spiritual Israel because the 10 tribes live in the land of milk and honey. America is doing exactly what Israel did before judgement came and we will be destroyed and go into captivity just as the first physical Israel did, but God will raise up a deliverer just as he always does and send an Elijah with him. This last day servant will be Gods greatest servant because he will bring both houses of Israel 10 tribes and 2 tribes back together through the annointing God gives him. Look at Revelation 14 and you see this last day servant reaping the harvest and then look at revelation 19 and you can clearly see the difference between Jesus and the last day servant..it's posted at the top of the page. The woman about to give birth is spiritual Israel(united states)and the last day servant comes from there
 Quoting: waterman


My answer:
You ought to read Scripture in humility and prayers to God, that He show you the truth, instead of contradicting His words. Your claim that the woman in Rev 12 is USA is just ridiculous rubbish, for while USA has 50 stars this woman has only 12 stars. USA has never, spiritually speaking, had the moon "under her feet", nor been "clothed with the sun". While the woman in Rev is being protected and will finally return to "her place" (Rev 12:14), being truthful, USA is seen to be the origin of many major false churches that spread their poison worldwide, among which are Mormonism, Christian Science, Seventh-day Adventism, and Jehovah's witnesses.

That the true witness of God will come from USA is also rubbish, for USA is in the west, where the sun sets, while the true witness of God is raised up from the north country, which is therefore called "the rising of the sun" (namely (the place of) the rising of God's truth), as can be seen when Psalm 75:6, Isa 41:25, Psalm 48:2, and Zech 6:8 are compared:

For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
 Quoting: The Bible


I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
 Quoting: The Bible


Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.
 Quoting: The Bible


Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
 Quoting: The Bible


Also, in saying that God will bring Israel and Judah together you are contradicting the Bible, for in Zech 11:14 it is foretold that God will, on the contrary, "break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel" in the NT time period. These words cannot be applied to the ten tribes of historical Israel, for they are gone forever. What is called "Israel" in Zech 11:14 is in biblical prophecy the fallen-away Christianity of today.

You seem to claim that one of the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 is our Lord himself, but such a claim is downright a fallacy.

The two witnesses are foretold to sit on either side of Jesus Christ, so you are totally wrong. Read the following text in the Bible and become convinced that I tell you the truth!

Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom. But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
 Quoting: The Bible


Pay heed to the truth that I tell you in order that God may heal you, or, else, accept the mark of the beast!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 27455920


The two houses of Israel will be joined together again that is why the bible says "all of Israel" will be saved. The last day servant brings those two houses together and it shows it in Ezekiel 37:

11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

15 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,

16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:

17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?

19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
 Quoting: waterman


Hello,

The words that you quote in bold face letters, would you please tell what you think they mean!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 27455920


It clearly shows that the two kingdoms of Israel, the northern kingdom and the southern kingdom are going to be reunited by Gods servant in the end....this hasn't happened yet so we know it is an end time event..God will not just abandon 10 tribes(man would say "forget about them 2 is good enough) but God will save all of Israel and you can clearly see it in Ezekiel 37
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Revelation chapter 12 the woman clothed with the sun and the moon at her feet with 12 stars:

The lost 10 tribes are the feminine half or Israel Judah is the male.
Jesus himself said he only came for the lost sheep of Isreal, which is why the gentile can be saved, and it was to make the jew jealous for salvation.....when the two houses are joined together it is a type of Adam and Eve. Eve started as part of Adam, came out of Adam and then it was declared "you are bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh" and together they became one flesh....and in the end the two houses become of one spirit through Jesus Christ: galations 3:28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are Christ all one in Jesus

That is showing you spiritual Israel:
1. God never represent the Jewish nation Israel as a female:
Exodus 4:22-23:

22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.

2. 12 stars represent it being Israel, but spiritual Israel

3. Clothed in the sun(means it is the glory of the nations)

4 Moon under her feet(united states only nation to conquer the moon) moon under our feet.
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Revelation chapter 12 the woman clothed with the sun and the moon at her feet with 12 stars:

The lost 10 tribes are the feminine half or Israel Judah is the male.
Jesus himself said he only came for the lost sheep of Isreal, which is why the gentile can be saved, and it was to make the jew jealous for salvation.....when the two houses are joined together it is a type of Adam and Eve. Eve started as part of Adam, came out of Adam and then it was declared "you are bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh" and together they became one flesh....and in the end the two houses become of one spirit through Jesus Christ: galations 3:28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are Christ all one in Jesus

That is showing you spiritual Israel:
1. God never represent the Jewish nation Israel as a female:
Exodus 4:22-23:

22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.

2. 12 stars represent it being Israel, but spiritual Israel

3. Clothed in the sun(means it is the glory of the nations)

4 Moon under her feet(united states only nation to conquer the moon) moon under our feet.
 Quoting: waterman


Waterman,
This doesn't resognate at all with what I have learned (through prayer and study) to be the "truth" in Holy Scripture so I checked out a couple other of your threads....I find you to miss the mark.

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Revelation chapter 12 the woman clothed with the sun and the moon at her feet with 12 stars:

The lost 10 tribes are the feminine half or Israel Judah is the male.
Jesus himself said he only came for the lost sheep of Isreal, which is why the gentile can be saved, and it was to make the jew jealous for salvation.....when the two houses are joined together it is a type of Adam and Eve. Eve started as part of Adam, came out of Adam and then it was declared "you are bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh" and together they became one flesh....and in the end the two houses become of one spirit through Jesus Christ: galations 3:28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are Christ all one in Jesus

That is showing you spiritual Israel:
1. God never represent the Jewish nation Israel as a female:
Exodus 4:22-23:

22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.

2. 12 stars represent it being Israel, but spiritual Israel

3. Clothed in the sun(means it is the glory of the nations)

4 Moon under her feet(united states only nation to conquer the moon) moon under our feet.
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Waterman,
This doesn't resognate at all with what I have learned (through prayer and study) to be the "truth" in Holy Scripture so I checked out a couple other of your threads....I find you to miss the mark.

RockyMtnLady
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Resonate** sorry, don't have the "edit" function.
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Revelation chapter 12 the woman clothed with the sun and the moon at her feet with 12 stars:

The lost 10 tribes are the feminine half or Israel Judah is the male.
Jesus himself said he only came for the lost sheep of Isreal, which is why the gentile can be saved, and it was to make the jew jealous for salvation.....when the two houses are joined together it is a type of Adam and Eve. Eve started as part of Adam, came out of Adam and then it was declared "you are bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh" and together they became one flesh....and in the end the two houses become of one spirit through Jesus Christ: galations 3:28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are Christ all one in Jesus

That is showing you spiritual Israel:
1. God never represent the Jewish nation Israel as a female:
Exodus 4:22-23:

22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.

2. 12 stars represent it being Israel, but spiritual Israel

3. Clothed in the sun(means it is the glory of the nations)

4 Moon under her feet(united states only nation to conquer the moon) moon under our feet.
 Quoting: waterman


Waterman,
This doesn't resognate at all with what I have learned (through prayer and study) to be the "truth" in Holy Scripture so I checked out a couple other of your threads....I find you to miss the mark.

RockyMtnLady
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Long as you know Jesus Christ is the son of God and died on the cross for sins and to those who believe and repent have received salvation, the rest don't matter. I just like people to know they are deceived if they think the war of Gog and Magog is against tiny geographical Israel. Russia would not need china to nuke tiny Israel, on the other hand if the Israel that is being described is spiritual Israel(united states) china would be helpful....Jesus saves
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Hello again, waterman,

So you dare go on propagating your stupidity and ignorance of the true contents of the book of Revelation? Well then, let us look at what you say and weigh it in the scales of truth. You quote Rev 12 and ask:

who is the child she gives birth to?
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My answer:
At least, there is one evident thing that has tremendous impact on your question, namely the fact that ever since it came the book of Revelation foretells things to happen and not things that had already happened when it was given to the servants of God. That is what is written in Rev 1:1, so it cannot be denied. Therefore, the woman who gives birth to the man child in Rev 12:5 is definitely not Mary, the woman who gave birth to Jesus, our Saviour.

The bible has a pattern of doing the physical first and then the spiritual. In the beginning Adam and Eve had physical children together. In the end the two witnesses will be a type of Adam and Eve bringing forth spiritual children In Zechariah we see Joshua and Zerubabbel building the temple, representing the two witnesses building the temple. God doesn't want a temple made of bricks, He had two of those and both were able to be destroyed. God wants people to accept what His Son Jesus did on the cross and repent. When a person does that they become the temple of God. The bible tells us there is a famine of the Word of God in the end, and these two witnesses are annointed to preach the Word so they will build the temple by spreading the Word of God about Jesus and each person will become the temple by receiving the salvation Jesus offers and as each person becomes a temple, the temple gets bigger and bigger. Again the bible shows the physical first and the spiritual second. If you know history about Israel it separated into two kingdoms after Solomon. The northern kingdom was called Israel and the southern kingdom Judah. Israel had 10 tribes and Judah had two. Assyrians came in and invaded the northern 10 tribes and they were never heard of again..135 years later the babylonians attacked the southern kingdom and took them into captivity. The difference is 70 year later the southern kingdom(Judah) regrouped and came together again, and is the Israel we know today. Those other ten tribes are in the Land of Milk and Honey(united states) just as God said he would place them. So if the 10 tribes of Israel are in the land of the United States then the people are the ones who make up Israel no matter what the land is called. America is the spiritual Israel because the 10 tribes live in the land of milk and honey. America is doing exactly what Israel did before judgement came and we will be destroyed and go into captivity just as the first physical Israel did, but God will raise up a deliverer just as he always does and send an Elijah with him. This last day servant will be Gods greatest servant because he will bring both houses of Israel 10 tribes and 2 tribes back together through the annointing God gives him. Look at Revelation 14 and you see this last day servant reaping the harvest and then look at revelation 19 and you can clearly see the difference between Jesus and the last day servant..it's posted at the top of the page. The woman about to give birth is spiritual Israel(united states)and the last day servant comes from there
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My answer:
You ought to read Scripture in humility and prayers to God, that He show you the truth, instead of contradicting His words. Your claim that the woman in Rev 12 is USA is just ridiculous rubbish, for while USA has 50 stars this woman has only 12 stars. USA has never, spiritually speaking, had the moon "under her feet", nor been "clothed with the sun". While the woman in Rev is being protected and will finally return to "her place" (Rev 12:14), being truthful, USA is seen to be the origin of many major false churches that spread their poison worldwide, among which are Mormonism, Christian Science, Seventh-day Adventism, and Jehovah's witnesses.

That the true witness of God will come from USA is also rubbish, for USA is in the west, where the sun sets, while the true witness of God is raised up from the north country, which is therefore called "the rising of the sun" (namely (the place of) the rising of God's truth), as can be seen when Psalm 75:6, Isa 41:25, Psalm 48:2, and Zech 6:8 are compared:

For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
 Quoting: The Bible


I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
 Quoting: The Bible


Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.
 Quoting: The Bible


Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
 Quoting: The Bible


Also, in saying that God will bring Israel and Judah together you are contradicting the Bible, for in Zech 11:14 it is foretold that God will, on the contrary, "break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel" in the NT time period. These words cannot be applied to the ten tribes of historical Israel, for they are gone forever. What is called "Israel" in Zech 11:14 is in biblical prophecy the fallen-away Christianity of today.

You seem to claim that one of the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 is our Lord himself, but such a claim is downright a fallacy.

The two witnesses are foretold to sit on either side of Jesus Christ, so you are totally wrong. Read the following text in the Bible and become convinced that I tell you the truth!

Then came to him the mother of Zebedee's children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him. And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom. But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able. And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
 Quoting: The Bible


Pay heed to the truth that I tell you in order that God may heal you, or, else, accept the mark of the beast!

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The two houses of Israel will be joined together again that is why the bible says "all of Israel" will be saved. The last day servant brings those two houses together and it shows it in Ezekiel 37:

11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.

12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.

13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.

15 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,

16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:

17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.

18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?

19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.

20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.

21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:

22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.

23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.

24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.

25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
 Quoting: waterman


Hello,

I notice that you try to avoid my quotations from Scripture. Why so? Here they are, so what is your answer?

For promotion cometh neither from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south.
 Quoting: The Bible


I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
 Quoting: The Bible


Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, is mount Zion, on the sides of the north, the city of the great King.
 Quoting: The Bible


Then cried he upon me, and spake unto me, saying, Behold, these that go toward the north country have quieted my spirit in the north country.
 Quoting: The Bible


Greetings from
PehJeshuah

What else you have written afterwards I will refute with Scripture later on! But now I challenge you with these quotes of mine that you try to avoid! I am not giving you the chance to sneak away!
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The servant is carried away captive after the destruction of the united states and is in captivity for 42 months before the 7 year tribulation. We clearly see the enemy comes from the north and this servant will be carried back to that land: notice again the land being attacked is the daughter of zion(united states), not Gods firstborn son Israel and this daughter is like a woman in labor just like where the man-child is.
Jeremiah 6:
22This is what the Lord says:

“Look, an army is coming

from the land of the north
;

a great nation is being stirred up

from the ends of the earth.

23They are armed with bow and spear;

they are cruel and show no mercy.

They sound like the roaring sea

as they ride on their horses;

they come like men in battle formation

to attack you, duaghter of zion.”

24We have heard reports about them,

and our hands hang limp.

Anguish has gripped us,

pain like that of a woman in labor.

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The servant is carried away captive after the destruction of the united states and is in captivity for 42 months before the 7 year tribulation. We clearly see the enemy comes from the north and this servant will be carried back to that land: notice again the land being attacked is the daughter of zion(united states), not Gods firstborn son Israel and this daughter is like a woman in labor just like where the man-child is.
Jeremiah 6:
22This is what the Lord says:

“Look, an army is coming

from the land of the north
;

a great nation is being stirred up

from the ends of the earth.

23They are armed with bow and spear;

they are cruel and show no mercy.

They sound like the roaring sea

as they ride on their horses;

they come like men in battle formation

to attack you, duaghter of zion.”

24We have heard reports about them,

and our hands hang limp.

Anguish has gripped us,

pain like that of a woman in labor.
 Quoting: waterman


"Daughter of Zion" is not the United States as you claim and believe. We are not that special.

RockyMtnLady
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The servant is carried away captive after the destruction of the united states and is in captivity for 42 months before the 7 year tribulation. We clearly see the enemy comes from the north and this servant will be carried back to that land: notice again the land being attacked is the daughter of zion(united states), not Gods firstborn son Israel and this daughter is like a woman in labor just like where the man-child is.
Jeremiah 6:
22This is what the Lord says:

“Look, an army is coming

from the land of the north
;

a great nation is being stirred up

from the ends of the earth.

23They are armed with bow and spear;

they are cruel and show no mercy.

They sound like the roaring sea

as they ride on their horses;

they come like men in battle formation

to attack you, duaghter of zion.”

24We have heard reports about them,

and our hands hang limp.

Anguish has gripped us,

pain like that of a woman in labor.
 Quoting: waterman


"Daughter of Zion" is not the United States as you claim and believe. We are not that special.

RockyMtnLady
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The united states is the land of milk and honey and that is what God promised the children of Israel.....you don't have to agree right now but know this when the united states is judged because it has turned from God and survivors of the destruction are carried away captive, know that God will raise up a deliverer 42 months from that time...this judgement is "the day of the lord" and I look for it to come in less than a year
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The servant is carried away captive after the destruction of the united states and is in captivity for 42 months before the 7 year tribulation. We clearly see the enemy comes from the north and this servant will be carried back to that land: notice again the land being attacked is the daughter of zion(united states), not Gods firstborn son Israel and this daughter is like a woman in labor just like where the man-child is.
Jeremiah 6:
22This is what the Lord says:

“Look, an army is coming

from the land of the north
;

a great nation is being stirred up

from the ends of the earth.

23They are armed with bow and spear;

they are cruel and show no mercy.

They sound like the roaring sea

as they ride on their horses;

they come like men in battle formation

to attack you, duaghter of zion.”

24We have heard reports about them,

and our hands hang limp.

Anguish has gripped us,

pain like that of a woman in labor.
 Quoting: waterman


"Daughter of Zion" is not the United States as you claim and believe. We are not that special.

RockyMtnLady
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Why is it saying your hidden ones if we can see Israel, because it is spiritual Israel(untited states)....if the lost 10 tribes can be destroyed then there will be no two houses of Israel joined and the name of Israel will be no more
psalms 83:3:
Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.

2For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.

3They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

4They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

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The servant is carried away captive after the destruction of the united states and is in captivity for 42 months before the 7 year tribulation. We clearly see the enemy comes from the north and this servant will be carried back to that land: notice again the land being attacked is the daughter of zion(united states), not Gods firstborn son Israel and this daughter is like a woman in labor just like where the man-child is.
Jeremiah 6:
22This is what the Lord says:

“Look, an army is coming

from the land of the north
;

a great nation is being stirred up

from the ends of the earth.

23They are armed with bow and spear;

they are cruel and show no mercy.

They sound like the roaring sea

as they ride on their horses;

they come like men in battle formation

to attack you, duaghter of zion.”

24We have heard reports about them,

and our hands hang limp.

Anguish has gripped us,

pain like that of a woman in labor.
 Quoting: waterman


"Daughter of Zion" is not the United States as you claim and believe. We are not that special.

RockyMtnLady
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The united states is the land of milk and honey and that is what God promised the children of Israel.....you don't have to agree right now but know this when the united states is judged because it has turned from God and survivors of the destruction are carried away captive, know that God will raise up a deliverer 42 months from that time...this judgement is "the day of the lord" and I look for it to come in less than a year
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It's funny because I believe in portions of what you say but others I do not. I believe the USA will be judged because it has promoted false religion and that, God will deal with. But, I believe you are off the mark on your time frames and your belief that the US is the "land of milk and honey." I do, however, believe that big change will be happening quickly....

RockyMtnLady
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The servant is carried away captive after the destruction of the united states and is in captivity for 42 months before the 7 year tribulation. We clearly see the enemy comes from the north and this servant will be carried back to that land: notice again the land being attacked is the daughter of zion(united states), not Gods firstborn son Israel and this daughter is like a woman in labor just like where the man-child is.
Jeremiah 6:
22This is what the Lord says:

“Look, an army is coming

from the land of the north
;

a great nation is being stirred up

from the ends of the earth.

23They are armed with bow and spear;

they are cruel and show no mercy.

They sound like the roaring sea

as they ride on their horses;

they come like men in battle formation

to attack you, duaghter of zion.”

24We have heard reports about them,

and our hands hang limp.

Anguish has gripped us,

pain like that of a woman in labor.
 Quoting: waterman


"Daughter of Zion" is not the United States as you claim and believe. We are not that special.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2783420

The united states is the land of milk and honey and that is what God promised the children of Israel.....you don't have to agree right now but know this when the united states is judged because it has turned from God and survivors of the destruction are carried away captive, know that God will raise up a deliverer 42 months from that time...this judgement is "the day of the lord" and I look for it to come in less than a year
 Quoting: waterman


It's funny because I believe in portions of what you say but others I do not. I believe the USA will be judged because it has promoted false religion and that, God will deal with. But, I believe you are off the mark on your time frames and your belief that the US is the "land of milk and honey." I do, however, believe that big change will be happening quickly....

RockyMtnLady
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There is a 42 month period before the 7 year tribulation, revelation 2:10 shows that:.....the 10 days of tribulation are 10 years or 42 months added in front of the 7 year trib



10 Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.


The united states is the land of milk and honey it is the greatest nation the world will ever see until the new heaven and new earth come

my thread on the last day servant...there are two witnesses but the 2nd is always greater than the first, example (Aaron and Moses, John and Jesus, steven and paul...etc:

Thread: The 2nd witness of Revelation 11 is the prince of Israel (ADAM) and the greatest of all servants of God

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Let it be known all whom beare false witness shall mourn.
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Therefore, my friend, let us always speak the truth, and let us therefore always base everythng we say be said on the firm foundation of the truth given to us by God!

I am glad that you agree with me, that false witnesses will mourn in the end. Thank you for your support!

And thank you for being honest!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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Ye are not of those whom will be called as the two witnesses. Ye beare false witness whom I am will be known in the day of thunder and lightning. Repent before that time lest what is written by the prophets come upon you.

lead not my sheep astray.
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Let it be known all whom beare false witness shall mourn.
 Quoting: Spiritoftruth111 26530436


Therefore, my friend, let us always speak the truth, and let us therefore always base everythng we say be said on the firm foundation of the truth given to us by God!

I am glad that you agree with me, that false witnesses will mourn in the end. Thank you for your support!

And thank you for being honest!

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PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 27455920


Ye are not of those whom will be called as the two witnesses. Ye beare false witness whom I am will be known in the day of thunder and lightning. Repent before that time lest what is written by the prophets come upon you.

lead not my sheep astray.
 Quoting: Spiritoftruth777 26530436


and you are?
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Let it be known all whom beare false witness shall mourn.
 Quoting: Spiritoftruth111 26530436


Therefore, my friend, let us always speak the truth, and let us therefore always base everythng we say be said on the firm foundation of the truth given to us by God!

I am glad that you agree with me, that false witnesses will mourn in the end. Thank you for your support!

And thank you for being honest!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 27455920


Ye are not of those whom will be called as the two witnesses. Ye beare false witness whom I am will be known in the day of thunder and lightning. Repent before that time lest what is written by the prophets come upon you.

lead not my sheep astray.
 Quoting: Spiritoftruth777 26530436


and you are?
 Quoting: dschis1000


C'mon don't be bashful and if you know me. I don't bite. Might have a few questions though. I know you're busy

Blessings in the name of our most Holy Heavenly Father

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