I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

Friend be a follower of Jesus. Right now you don't even know what the mission of the witnesses is. If you do please tell us what you think it is. Because right now your acting like you can save people, and you can save nobody, Jesus is the only one with that power. So tell us what is the purpose of your commission?

Waterman, I am going to let PJ answer you as your question was directed at him. But, I pray for you now that you will please give him a chance.

RockyMtnLady

Dear brother,

Did you ever think about it, that the "2300 evenings and mornings" (Dan 8:14) have got something to do with the two witnesses of God in Rev 11:3?

What this means is that you will not be able to understand the prophetic words of Rev 11:3 without first understanding Dan 9:24.

So, my little brother, tell me in honesty, if you understand these mentioned prophetic words, or if you know anybody who does understand them.

Listen, I dare tell you that I do understand these scriptures fully, so who will dare to accuse me of being false?

The "2300 evenings and mornings" are the seal of the two witnesses in Rev 11:3, so therefore nobody except them will be able to understand these scripture.

Am I false to you, or what would you say? Will you in the very beginning judge me to be false, or will you start listening in order to find out if I am true?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

When you follow the whole bible and not just the pieces you like then you will be able to see the truth. The bible is made up of 2 halves the old testament and the new testament.
This represents The old testament shows God and the new testament shows Jesus. The old testament shows Judah and the new testament shows Israel. The old testament shows Adam and the new testament shows Eve. Both sides put together makes one whole, God, Nation, and Man. If you refuse any part of the new testament you can't see the truth because a house divided against itself will fall Mark 2:25:And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. You have said the teachings of paul are false when you can see they are not we can have a discussion until then your still in the dark.

I don't think you answered his question about the "2300 evenings and mornings" Let's to through this piece by piece.

RockyMtnLady

When you follow the whole bible and not just the pieces you like then you will be able to see the truth. The bible is made up of 2 halves the old testament and the new testament.
This represents The old testament shows God and the new testament shows Jesus. The old testament shows Judah and the new testament shows Israel. The old testament shows Adam and the new testament shows Eve. Both sides put together makes one whole, God, Nation, and Man. If you refuse any part of the new testament you can't see the truth because a house divided against itself will fall Mark 2:25:And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. You have said the teachings of paul are false when you can see they are not we can have a discussion until then your still in the dark.

When did I say that the teachings of Paul are false? Tell us now!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

When did I say that the teachings of Paul are false? Tell us now!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

Little brother,

I will not accuse you or attack you if you mistook me for being TheSeventhGate, who indeed reject Paul the apostle. So, let us forget it for it is human to make such mistakes, of which I have myself made many.

But tell me why you think I am false and not the one I tell you that I am, the true witness of God after Rev 11:3.

I wish you all the best, for I live in the hope as one having the feeling that you are a good person, one who seeks the eternal truth as I myself did long time ago, even through much pain.

Good luck brother, think it over, and pray to God, yours and mine, and we will find what is meant for us, so we can rejoice together.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
The true witness of God
whose heart is weeping for your sake, and praying for you. May God bless you, my little brother!

PJ, it's peculiar because I was thinking the same about Waterman and my journey toward Truth. Waterman, I pray that you find the Truth. I had many distortions as well at first and God led me to the Truth. I hope and pray for the same for you as well.

RockyMtnLady

I don't see the two witnesses being on the scene til after Sampson(the united states) is taken out of the way and put into slavery for his turning from God, but laying that aside for now.....Do you both believe that malachi 4:5-6 saying that God will send Elijah the prophet before the great and dreadful day of the lord comes is one of the two witnesses or the spirit of him or some form that Elijah is one of the witnesses?

Hi Waterman, first of all, please know that I am a lowly person who has come a long way to accept the Spirit of Christ. I believe what Malechi was talking about is the Spirit of Elijah...I could be wrong. I am learning....

God Bless You,
RockyMtnLady

I don't see the two witnesses being on the scene til after Sampson(the united states) is taken out of the way and put into slavery for his turning from God, but laying that aside for now.....Do you both believe that malachi 4:5-6 saying that God will send Elijah the prophet before the great and dreadful day of the lord comes is one of the two witnesses or the spirit of him or some form that Elijah is one of the witnesses?

O Jehovah, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Jehovah, revive thy work in the midst of the years (in the midst of NT time, cfr. Zech 11:14)); In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath (Isa 24) remember mercy. God came from Teman, And the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, And the earth was full of his praise. And his brightness was as the light; He had (two) rays (the two witnesses) coming forth from his hand; And there was the hiding of his power.

For neither from the east, nor from the west, Nor yet from the south, cometh lifting up.

What is strange is if Elijah is one of the two witnesses why doesn't it mention the other witness? Because the other witness is in the volume of the book and will have an Elijah just as his father Jesus did. You have 3 Israels in the bible

1. Jesus
2. Adam
3. the nation of Isreal

the whole purpose is to reverse the curse and unite the lost 10 tribes with the other 2 again

Jesus made the salvation part possible
Adam does the uniting part by leading people to Jesus
Elijah does the part of Eve the help meet.

Everybody sees 2 of the Israels throughout the bible
1. Jesus (Israel)
2. The nation (Israel)

What about the 3rd Israel(Jesus' firstborn) Adam

Adam is the only person who could hide in scriptures that refer to Jesus and still be hidden from everybody until the end

Adam born of a virgin spirit and virgin earth
Jesus born of a virgin Mary

Adam first born son of God and when he returns as a witness will be a son of man just as Jesus had both titles.

Adam was before David and will come after david

I can't make you see something you don't want to see, but remember this:

2 of the 3 Israels are in the volume of the book, you decide what you think of the other Israel(Adam) and why he isn't in the volume of the book

I will come back and answer you, but there is no reason to make Israel into many Israels.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

I SEE THE THREAD OF STU and PID is still alive and kicking

Is that related to the id 10 T thread?

What is strange is if Elijah is one of the two witnesses why doesn't it mention the other witness? Because the other witness is in the volume of the book and will have an Elijah just as his father Jesus did. You have 3 Israels in the bible

1. Jesus
2. Adam
3. the nation of Isreal

the whole purpose is to reverse the curse and unite the lost 10 tribes with the other 2 again

Jesus made the salvation part possible
Adam does the uniting part by leading people to Jesus
Elijah does the part of Eve the help meet.

Everybody sees 2 of the Israels throughout the bible
1. Jesus (Israel)
2. The nation (Israel)

What about the 3rd Israel(Jesus' firstborn) Adam

Adam is the only person who could hide in scriptures that refer to Jesus and still be hidden from everybody until the end

Adam born of a virgin spirit and virgin earth
Jesus born of a virgin Mary

Adam first born son of God and when he returns as a witness will be a son of man just as Jesus had both titles.

Adam was before David and will come after david

I can't make you see something you don't want to see, but remember this:

2 of the 3 Israels are in the volume of the book, you decide what you think of the other Israel(Adam) and why he isn't in the volume of the book

I see from your threads that you believe in a "rapture." I did as well awhile ago so I understand this misstep but there is no rapture. That is a fallacy given by the fallen away church.Once you pray for truth from God Almighty, you will realize this.

God Bless You,
RockyMtnLady

Oh there is a rapture. When Jesus is talking to the 7 churches, which we know Jesus only has one church so he is actually speaking to different levels of followers of Jesus and the church of philadelphia(those who know Jesus as "Lord" and "Savior") is told they will be kept from the hour of temptation that is coming up on the earth the rest of the church only knew Jesus as a fire insurance salesman, will go through another 7 years and the endtime witnesses teach the tribulation saints how to make Jesus "Lord" and not just savior, they teach the people righteousness. The reason the church of philadelphia is kept from that 7 years are kept is because they endured the 42 prior to the 7 year trib and remained faithful(5 wise virgins) which is the united states destruction and the cup that Jesus drank from and the furnace of affliction or fire batpizism that Jesus was baptized with that the two witnesses come out of.

Rev 2:10:
10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast "some" of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days(years): be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.

Some will do all 10 years but the church of philadelphia will only do 42 months because the prove to be faithful, their faith is tested and they pass

What then, do you make out of (John 6:40) "For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day."

???

RockyMtnLady

The last 7 years is the story of Joseph and the famine. There was a physical famine in the land for 7 years and Joseph fed the people because he know the plan of God

The last 7 years there is a spiritual famine for the word of God which is the bread(Jesus). Adam will feed the people spiritually all that his father Jesus tells him, just as Jesus' father told him what to say and do

Adams comission will be to unite the 10 lost tribes with the 2 tribes of Judah and benjamin and to teach people righteousness to show them how to make Jesus "Lord" and Savior......and to GLORIFY JESUS, just as Jesus glorified the Father. These tribulation saint will be holy again after the furnace of affliction 42 months in a concentration camp and no idols left they will be ready to be taught about Jesus and that is what the son of Jesus, Adam will do

I admire your efforts to consistently deflect questions and I also admire the stories you have fabricated...for they take someone who has a very clear imagination, but you are mistaken. You cannot deflect Holy Scripture...it is what it is. It is TRUTH. Other narratives are just stories concocted by the storyteller.

RockyMtnLady

No one can see this man(ADAM) or those with him until the time it is for him to be revealed.


Jesus is speaking when he says no man can see my "Son" with a capital "Son" is because all of Jesus' children are sons and daughters but the firstborn Adam is the firstborn and receives the double portion and is meant to rule over the entire congregation with father to children relationship.

2nd Esdras 13:51-52 apocrpaha:
51 Then said I, O Lord that bearest rule, shew me this: Wherefore have I seen the man coming up from the midst of the sea?
52 And he said unto me, Like as thou canst neither seek out nor know the things that are in the deep of the sea: even so can no man upon earth see my Son(ADAM,FIRSTBORN), or those that be with him, but in the day time

verse 51 esdras is speaking to "Lord that bearest rule" which is Jesus because Matthew 28:18

18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
and we know from Hebrews 13:8
8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
and Jesus is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent God and his word is from everlasting to everlasting. God's word covers past, present, and future therefore Jesus' position is the same.

To further prove that esdras is speaking to Jesus(Lord that bearest rule) Jesus speaks of God the Father as a seperate intity from Himself by stating in 2 Esd. 13:26 The same is he whom God the Highest hath kept a great season, which by his own self shall deliver his(Gods) creature(creation): and he shall order them that are left behind

I admire your efforts to consistently deflect questions and I also admire the stories you have fabricated...for they take someone who has a very clear imagination, but you are mistaken. You cannot deflect Holy Scripture...it is what it is. It is TRUTH. Other narratives are just stories concocted by the storyteller.

RockyMtnLady

Jesus was the worlds greatest story teller, without a story Jesus wouldn't talk to the people, just as the bible is made up of stories that have hidden meanings for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear

Christ spoke in parables but not in "Waterman language". You make no sense...sorry dude and you are not consistent with Holy Scripture AT ALL.

RockyMtnLady

Hi,

I will now answer and comment on what you say.



My answer:
For a person who does not know biblical times and numbers and the setting of prophecies, both historical and spiritual, it is natural to see only "unsubstantiaed claims". This is clearly said by Paul the apostle in 1 Cor 2:14:

Since you say that Paul is false you are in fact making unsubstantiated claims yourself, without having any evidence for what you say. In Isa 46:10 God speaks through His prophet saying this:

What this means is that the words that God declared from the beginning about things yet to come, for instance about the two witnesses of Rev 11:3, have both a literal and a spiritual meaning, for the old literal worship of God through sacrifices has become a spiritual worship through the Holy Spirit, yet both the literal and the spiritual meanings are hidden in the same prophetic words. As long as you do not see this biblical fact you will also not see substantiated truths. That I am like "the others", Chip included, is just rubbish on your part, for none of them have spoken according to Scripture as I have done. That is why their words can be easily refuted while my words are firmly based on Scripture. When you say that I "don't know the word of God as well as you like to think you do," you are in fact speaking about yourself! That I take the word of God, as you say, "out of context a lot which no true witness would do," will be impossible for you to prove. So until you prove your words you will stay a liar.



My answer:
What Scripture foretells about the one that comes from the north, which I have referred to, is the following verse (Isa 41:25):



My answer:
Are they? If a witness of God be automatically also a prophet, then try to apply that falsehood of yours on people who lived in the Old Testament time, who were of God. Read Isa 43:10:

Here it is explained that they are witnesses in respect of knowing and believing in God, not because of the faculty of prophesying. In Heb 1:1:

Would you say that all the fathers unto whom the prophets spoke were themselves prophets, and if so, why should a true prophet speak to a true prophet, as though the latter were no prophet at all? Or, since the fathers were spoken to by the prophets, would you say that they were ungodly people, such as knew and believed not in God? If you admit that they indeed did know and believe in God then you must also admit that they were witnesses of God, in spite of not being prophets! You see, I am not splitting hair or twisting Scripture, but speaking from the foundation of Scripture, at the same time showing you to be wrong.



My answer:
Are you sure? Have I not already refuted your lies and thus showed everybody that there is no living water in you, only falsehood, and in doing so I have made your water into blood, showing it to be a mixture of lies that kills and thus from the Devil himself! Your ignorance does not annul the true meaning of Scripture. You think in your stupidity that the time period of the two witnesses is "one thousand two hundred and sixty days," but that is wrong since that time period applies to their work as prophets and not as witnesses.



My answer:
What law are you speaking about? If you mean God's law I will ask you why the law of God who is Spirit would be only literal? He who commands the whole universe and all existence, why should His law be reduced to the material world of small human beings on this earth? We need no Paul to understand the right answer, though he has the right answer in spite of your disrespect of him.

Since you say that I am so obvious in my vain egocentricity people will wonder why you do not feel and see my power in Scripture, such as has put you to shame without yourself having yet understood it. Go on in your stupidity and lick your wounds in the end, for the true witness of God has spoken against you!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah