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I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

 
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347
You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse! No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others! You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble. For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced. Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them! They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another! These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him. Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others! In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418


Hi,

I will now answer and comment on what you say:

You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I do not claim to be a true witness for YOUR God, it suffices that you are his witness, but I do doubt that he be the Lord of Glory. I have my reasons for that doubt!

No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I will ask you if you ever thought about the possibility that what you think is hatred instead is love. Would you for instance say that the following words reveal hatred (Luke 3:7) instead of love?

O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
 Quoting: The Bible


And did not Paul the apostle call certain people dogs? Was he then humble and showing love? If the word hatred per se is a pertinent argument against truth, then why did David say the words you find in Psalm 139:21?

Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
 Quoting: The Bible


Would you say that David was not a true witness of God? That he was filled with hatred and therefore also not humble?

You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Isa 57 firsts tells about the evil times of God's people, about the triumph of their enemies, and about their having been humbled, but then goes on in verses 13 through 15 to tell that the spirit of the humble and contrite will be revived and even dwell in the high and lofty place with their Lord, as the following words show us:

but he that putteth his trust in me shall possess the land, and shall inherit my holy mountain; And shall say, Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the stumblingblock out of the way of my people. For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
 Quoting: The Bible


This chapter of Isaiah shows that there will come about a great change in which the Lord will not contend for ever. Scripure tells us that He contends through His witnesses, those who have been revived and given the right to dwell in the high and holy place. Therefore, when such people speak and contend from the high but holy place their opponents will for sure hold them to be haughty people. Did you ever look at prophetic things from that perspective?

For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Well, read Isa 57 and pay special attention to these words "I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit. But why do you mean that you are in the position to know what I have experienced? Is not that downright haughtiness on your part?

Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
So you are now telling us here on GLP that you know what or who the two witnesses of Rev 11:3 are or will be? If you knew, which you definitely do not, you would also understand the secret of Dan 8:13-14:

Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 Quoting: The Bible


How would you for instance explain the seemingly different answers given basically to the same question in Dan 8:14 and Dan 12:7, which one of the two witnesses asks? Show us now that know about these things in your humbleness while I do not in my haughtiness!

They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When your Mickey Mouse speaks there is no threat and death in his world but I say to you that when the true two witnesses speak there will be a division between life and death, for with their testimony comes the "hour of temptation" (Rev 3:10), which means that Satan will do his utmost to prevent people from understanding and believing their everlasting gospel. Whoever speaks against them defends his own selfish purpose, and in doing so he also belittles himself and bears himself the responsibility for it.

These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
What things do you mean? I would recommend that you read Psalm 149 and tell us what honour is meant in Psalm 149:9, and given to who for what purpose? Scripture is authority and cannot be ignored!

Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When you speak of your overly kind Master you seem to have quite a different Lord than David had, for he said this about his Lord (Psalm 7:11):

God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked EVERY DAY.
 Quoting: The Bible


God is angry all the time, for He is a consuming fire!

In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Whom have you served for four decades since you still are so ignorant of the most fundamental truths in Scripture, both of the true gospel (the song of the Lamb) and of the law (the song of Moses)? Let alone the prophecies!

One last question: Do you believe that the true two witnesses of Rev 11:3 should be polite and subservient (humble) to those who propagate false doctrine on earth today?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
The propagation of false doctrine on earth is not something that can be established by your determination. Because, I have not observed any given authority, exampled through any insight, on your part.

You are using examples of God's Word to manipulate any situation that might prove favorable on your behalf. Nevertheless, you take the subject matter out of the way to prove what is not the true example. We are not talking about David's enemies here, but your own self induced foes! So substituting the Word on behalf of yourself in defense of David's claim; is like speaking on behalf of another with no objections from that source, because of his absence! Anyone with any insight could see this strategy is not in defense of the Word, but simply the claim to prove one's inability to project a reasonable argument against a scriptural sound commentary, by other individuals!

In the finally analysis, my friend. I do not see any enemy here on this thread. Only those who desire to express a different opinion then yours. Yet, you classified such as your enemies, equal with the foes David had to contend with. Sorry, I am not buying it. Opinions of others are not foes to the truth, but insights of other possibilities of the mysteries of God's Word not yet discovered!

The times of the numbers are of those effects within those two witnesses, that appeared on that day of Daniel's vision. To know the birth of the day of Enoch, reveals the mysteries of the days spoken. For as it is stated (2Enoch), I died on the same day I was born (paraphrased). Seeing as how Enoch had not yet at that time reached the point of death, it only stands to reason that he is speaking of himself, at a future date, for Enoch has not yet died! So, therefore, that witness, will know of those meanings and the time of those numbers. For the birth and the death of both happenings correspond with the days of that event, the day of the death of the two witnesses. When? On Enoch's birthday (one of the two witnesses). However, this will not cause the celebration of those two deaths, by evil men, but the three and 1/2 days leads up to that celebration, of that only timed year, to line up exactly, with that day of birth! So in the midst of their celebration shall their ascension appear! Then afterwards, comes that 30 days for that evil one who harmed God's servants, to be complete. Then that 45 days of respite before the coming forth of Jesus' 2nd appearing, before the eyes of all. Then shall be the completion of the fruit and the ripeness of the fig thereof.
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Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347
You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse! No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others! You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble. For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced. Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them! They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another! These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him. Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others! In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418


Hi,

I will now answer and comment on what you say:

You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I do not claim to be a true witness for YOUR God, it suffices that you are his witness, but I do doubt that he be the Lord of Glory. I have my reasons for that doubt!

No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I will ask you if you ever thought about the possibility that what you think is hatred instead is love. Would you for instance say that the following words reveal hatred (Luke 3:7) instead of love?

O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
 Quoting: The Bible


And did not Paul the apostle call certain people dogs? Was he then humble and showing love? If the word hatred per se is a pertinent argument against truth, then why did David say the words you find in Psalm 139:21?

Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
 Quoting: The Bible


Would you say that David was not a true witness of God? That he was filled with hatred and therefore also not humble?

You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Isa 57 firsts tells about the evil times of God's people, about the triumph of their enemies, and about their having been humbled, but then goes on in verses 13 through 15 to tell that the spirit of the humble and contrite will be revived and even dwell in the high and lofty place with their Lord, as the following words show us:

but he that putteth his trust in me shall possess the land, and shall inherit my holy mountain; And shall say, Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the stumblingblock out of the way of my people. For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
 Quoting: The Bible


This chapter of Isaiah shows that there will come about a great change in which the Lord will not contend for ever. Scripure tells us that He contends through His witnesses, those who have been revived and given the right to dwell in the high and holy place. Therefore, when such people speak and contend from the high but holy place their opponents will for sure hold them to be haughty people. Did you ever look at prophetic things from that perspective?

For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Well, read Isa 57 and pay special attention to these words "I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit. But why do you mean that you are in the position to know what I have experienced? Is not that downright haughtiness on your part?

Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
So you are now telling us here on GLP that you know what or who the two witnesses of Rev 11:3 are or will be? If you knew, which you definitely do not, you would also understand the secret of Dan 8:13-14:

Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 Quoting: The Bible


How would you for instance explain the seemingly different answers given basically to the same question in Dan 8:14 and Dan 12:7, which one of the two witnesses asks? Show us now that know about these things in your humbleness while I do not in my haughtiness!

They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When your Mickey Mouse speaks there is no threat and death in his world but I say to you that when the true two witnesses speak there will be a division between life and death, for with their testimony comes the "hour of temptation" (Rev 3:10), which means that Satan will do his utmost to prevent people from understanding and believing their everlasting gospel. Whoever speaks against them defends his own selfish purpose, and in doing so he also belittles himself and bears himself the responsibility for it.

These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
What things do you mean? I would recommend that you read Psalm 149 and tell us what honour is meant in Psalm 149:9, and given to who for what purpose? Scripture is authority and cannot be ignored!

Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When you speak of your overly kind Master you seem to have quite a different Lord than David had, for he said this about his Lord (Psalm 7:11):

God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked EVERY DAY.
 Quoting: The Bible


God is angry all the time, for He is a consuming fire!

In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Whom have you served for four decades since you still are so ignorant of the most fundamental truths in Scripture, both of the true gospel (the song of the Lamb) and of the law (the song of Moses)? Let alone the prophecies!

One last question: Do you believe that the true two witnesses of Rev 11:3 should be polite and subservient (humble) to those who propagate false doctrine on earth today?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347
The propagation of false doctrine on earth is not something that can be established by your determination. Because, I have not observed any given authority, exampled through any insight, on your part.

You are using examples of God's Word to manipulate any situation that might prove favorable on your behalf. Nevertheless, you take the subject matter out of the way to prove what is not the true example. We are not talking about David's enemies here, but your own self induced foes! So substituting the Word on behalf of yourself in defense of David's claim; is like speaking on behalf of another with no objections from that source, because of his absence! Anyone with any insight could see this strategy is not in defense of the Word, but simply the claim to prove one's inability to project a reasonable argument against a scriptural sound commentary, by other individuals!

In the finally analysis, my friend. I do not see any enemy here on this thread. Only those who desire to express a different opinion then yours. Yet, you classified such as your enemies, equal with the foes David had to contend with. Sorry, I am not buying it. Opinions of others are not foes to the truth, but insights of other possibilities of the mysteries of God's Word not yet discovered!

The times of the numbers are of those effects within those two witnesses, that appeared on that day of Daniel's vision. To know the birth of the day of Enoch, reveals the mysteries of the days spoken. For as it is stated (2Enoch), I died on the same day I was born (paraphrased). Seeing as how Enoch had not yet at that time reached the point of death, it only stands to reason that he is speaking of himself, at a future date, for Enoch has not yet died! So, therefore, that witness, will know of those meanings and the time of those numbers. For the birth and the death of both happenings correspond with the days of that event, the day of the death of the two witnesses. When? On Enoch's birthday (one of the two witnesses). However, this will not cause the celebration of those two deaths, by evil men, but the three and 1/2 days leads up to that celebration, of that only timed year, to line up exactly, with that day of birth! So in the midst of their celebration shall their ascension appear! Then afterwards, comes that 30 days for that evil one who harmed God's servants, to be complete. Then that 45 days of respite before the coming forth of Jesus' 2nd appearing, before the eyes of all. Then shall be the completion of the fruit and the ripeness of the fig thereof.


Enoch is not one of the of the two witnesses of 11.3, nor is Elijah, or Moses. People who believe this false teaching are oblivious of the fact that once a person, also the Old Testament prophets who are included in Heb 11:39-40, have passed into another existence they will no more come back to participate in what happens under the sun. That is clearly said in Eccl 9:5-6.

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Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347
You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse! No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others! You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble. For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced. Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them! They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another! These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him. Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others! In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418


Hi,

I will now answer and comment on what you say:

You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I do not claim to be a true witness for YOUR God, it suffices that you are his witness, but I do doubt that he be the Lord of Glory. I have my reasons for that doubt!

No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I will ask you if you ever thought about the possibility that what you think is hatred instead is love. Would you for instance say that the following words reveal hatred (Luke 3:7) instead of love?

O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
 Quoting: The Bible


And did not Paul the apostle call certain people dogs? Was he then humble and showing love? If the word hatred per se is a pertinent argument against truth, then why did David say the words you find in Psalm 139:21?

Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
 Quoting: The Bible


Would you say that David was not a true witness of God? That he was filled with hatred and therefore also not humble?

You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Isa 57 firsts tells about the evil times of God's people, about the triumph of their enemies, and about their having been humbled, but then goes on in verses 13 through 15 to tell that the spirit of the humble and contrite will be revived and even dwell in the high and lofty place with their Lord, as the following words show us:

but he that putteth his trust in me shall possess the land, and shall inherit my holy mountain; And shall say, Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the stumblingblock out of the way of my people. For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
 Quoting: The Bible


This chapter of Isaiah shows that there will come about a great change in which the Lord will not contend for ever. Scripure tells us that He contends through His witnesses, those who have been revived and given the right to dwell in the high and holy place. Therefore, when such people speak and contend from the high but holy place their opponents will for sure hold them to be haughty people. Did you ever look at prophetic things from that perspective?

For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Well, read Isa 57 and pay special attention to these words "I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit. But why do you mean that you are in the position to know what I have experienced? Is not that downright haughtiness on your part?

Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
So you are now telling us here on GLP that you know what or who the two witnesses of Rev 11:3 are or will be? If you knew, which you definitely do not, you would also understand the secret of Dan 8:13-14:

Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 Quoting: The Bible


How would you for instance explain the seemingly different answers given basically to the same question in Dan 8:14 and Dan 12:7, which one of the two witnesses asks? Show us now that know about these things in your humbleness while I do not in my haughtiness!

They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When your Mickey Mouse speaks there is no threat and death in his world but I say to you that when the true two witnesses speak there will be a division between life and death, for with their testimony comes the "hour of temptation" (Rev 3:10), which means that Satan will do his utmost to prevent people from understanding and believing their everlasting gospel. Whoever speaks against them defends his own selfish purpose, and in doing so he also belittles himself and bears himself the responsibility for it.

These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
What things do you mean? I would recommend that you read Psalm 149 and tell us what honour is meant in Psalm 149:9, and given to who for what purpose? Scripture is authority and cannot be ignored!

Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When you speak of your overly kind Master you seem to have quite a different Lord than David had, for he said this about his Lord (Psalm 7:11):

God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked EVERY DAY.
 Quoting: The Bible


God is angry all the time, for He is a consuming fire!

In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Whom have you served for four decades since you still are so ignorant of the most fundamental truths in Scripture, both of the true gospel (the song of the Lamb) and of the law (the song of Moses)? Let alone the prophecies!

One last question: Do you believe that the true two witnesses of Rev 11:3 should be polite and subservient (humble) to those who propagate false doctrine on earth today?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347
The propagation of false doctrine on earth is not something that can be established by your determination. Because, I have not observed any given authority, exampled through any insight, on your part.

You are using examples of God's Word to manipulate any situation that might prove favorable on your behalf. Nevertheless, you take the subject matter out of the way to prove what is not the true example. We are not talking about David's enemies here, but your own self induced foes! So substituting the Word on behalf of yourself in defense of David's claim; is like speaking on behalf of another with no objections from that source, because of his absence! Anyone with any insight could see this strategy is not in defense of the Word, but simply the claim to prove one's inability to project a reasonable argument against a scriptural sound commentary, by other individuals!

In the finally analysis, my friend. I do not see any enemy here on this thread. Only those who desire to express a different opinion then yours. Yet, you classified such as your enemies, equal with the foes David had to contend with. Sorry, I am not buying it. Opinions of others are not foes to the truth, but insights of other possibilities of the mysteries of God's Word not yet discovered!

The times of the numbers are of those effects within those two witnesses, that appeared on that day of Daniel's vision. To know the birth of the day of Enoch, reveals the mysteries of the days spoken. For as it is stated (2Enoch), I died on the same day I was born (paraphrased). Seeing as how Enoch had not yet at that time reached the point of death, it only stands to reason that he is speaking of himself, at a future date, for Enoch has not yet died! So, therefore, that witness, will know of those meanings and the time of those numbers. For the birth and the death of both happenings correspond with the days of that event, the day of the death of the two witnesses. When? On Enoch's birthday (one of the two witnesses). However, this will not cause the celebration of those two deaths, by evil men, but the three and 1/2 days leads up to that celebration, of that only timed year, to line up exactly, with that day of birth! So in the midst of their celebration shall their ascension appear! Then afterwards, comes that 30 days for that evil one who harmed God's servants, to be complete. Then that 45 days of respite before the coming forth of Jesus' 2nd appearing, before the eyes of all. Then shall be the completion of the fruit and the ripeness of the fig thereof.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2783420


Enoch is not one of the of the two witnesses of 11.3, nor is Elijah, or Moses. People who believe this false teaching are oblivious of the fact that once a person, also the Old Testament prophets who are included in Heb 11:39-40, have passed into another existence they will no more come back to participate in what happens under the sun. That is clearly said in Eccl 9:5-6.

RockyMtnLady


This thread is clearly all about 2 people seeking a position, even if they have to stomp on Jesus and his followers to get to it and anybody who disagrees with these two people being the two witnesses they will not be tolerated

The real two witnesses themselves could tell you that you were wrong and you would throw rocks at them

Have a good time seeking your positions tell each other we all said "hello", because that is your whole audience

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You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse! No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others! You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble. For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced. Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them! They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another! These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him. Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others! In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418


Hi,

I will now answer and comment on what you say:

You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I do not claim to be a true witness for YOUR God, it suffices that you are his witness, but I do doubt that he be the Lord of Glory. I have my reasons for that doubt!

No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I will ask you if you ever thought about the possibility that what you think is hatred instead is love. Would you for instance say that the following words reveal hatred (Luke 3:7) instead of love?

O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
 Quoting: The Bible


And did not Paul the apostle call certain people dogs? Was he then humble and showing love? If the word hatred per se is a pertinent argument against truth, then why did David say the words you find in Psalm 139:21?

Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
 Quoting: The Bible


Would you say that David was not a true witness of God? That he was filled with hatred and therefore also not humble?

You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Isa 57 firsts tells about the evil times of God's people, about the triumph of their enemies, and about their having been humbled, but then goes on in verses 13 through 15 to tell that the spirit of the humble and contrite will be revived and even dwell in the high and lofty place with their Lord, as the following words show us:

but he that putteth his trust in me shall possess the land, and shall inherit my holy mountain; And shall say, Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the stumblingblock out of the way of my people. For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
 Quoting: The Bible


This chapter of Isaiah shows that there will come about a great change in which the Lord will not contend for ever. Scripure tells us that He contends through His witnesses, those who have been revived and given the right to dwell in the high and holy place. Therefore, when such people speak and contend from the high but holy place their opponents will for sure hold them to be haughty people. Did you ever look at prophetic things from that perspective?

For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Well, read Isa 57 and pay special attention to these words "I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit. But why do you mean that you are in the position to know what I have experienced? Is not that downright haughtiness on your part?

Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
So you are now telling us here on GLP that you know what or who the two witnesses of Rev 11:3 are or will be? If you knew, which you definitely do not, you would also understand the secret of Dan 8:13-14:

Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 Quoting: The Bible


How would you for instance explain the seemingly different answers given basically to the same question in Dan 8:14 and Dan 12:7, which one of the two witnesses asks? Show us now that know about these things in your humbleness while I do not in my haughtiness!

They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When your Mickey Mouse speaks there is no threat and death in his world but I say to you that when the true two witnesses speak there will be a division between life and death, for with their testimony comes the "hour of temptation" (Rev 3:10), which means that Satan will do his utmost to prevent people from understanding and believing their everlasting gospel. Whoever speaks against them defends his own selfish purpose, and in doing so he also belittles himself and bears himself the responsibility for it.

These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
What things do you mean? I would recommend that you read Psalm 149 and tell us what honour is meant in Psalm 149:9, and given to who for what purpose? Scripture is authority and cannot be ignored!

Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When you speak of your overly kind Master you seem to have quite a different Lord than David had, for he said this about his Lord (Psalm 7:11):

God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked EVERY DAY.
 Quoting: The Bible


God is angry all the time, for He is a consuming fire!

In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Whom have you served for four decades since you still are so ignorant of the most fundamental truths in Scripture, both of the true gospel (the song of the Lamb) and of the law (the song of Moses)? Let alone the prophecies!

One last question: Do you believe that the true two witnesses of Rev 11:3 should be polite and subservient (humble) to those who propagate false doctrine on earth today?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347
The propagation of false doctrine on earth is not something that can be established by your determination. Because, I have not observed any given authority, exampled through any insight, on your part.

You are using examples of God's Word to manipulate any situation that might prove favorable on your behalf. Nevertheless, you take the subject matter out of the way to prove what is not the true example. We are not talking about David's enemies here, but your own self induced foes! So substituting the Word on behalf of yourself in defense of David's claim; is like speaking on behalf of another with no objections from that source, because of his absence! Anyone with any insight could see this strategy is not in defense of the Word, but simply the claim to prove one's inability to project a reasonable argument against a scriptural sound commentary, by other individuals!

In the finally analysis, my friend. I do not see any enemy here on this thread. Only those who desire to express a different opinion then yours. Yet, you classified such as your enemies, equal with the foes David had to contend with. Sorry, I am not buying it. Opinions of others are not foes to the truth, but insights of other possibilities of the mysteries of God's Word not yet discovered!

The times of the numbers are of those effects within those two witnesses, that appeared on that day of Daniel's vision. To know the birth of the day of Enoch, reveals the mysteries of the days spoken. For as it is stated (2Enoch), I died on the same day I was born (paraphrased). Seeing as how Enoch had not yet at that time reached the point of death, it only stands to reason that he is speaking of himself, at a future date, for Enoch has not yet died! So, therefore, that witness, will know of those meanings and the time of those numbers. For the birth and the death of both happenings correspond with the days of that event, the day of the death of the two witnesses. When? On Enoch's birthday (one of the two witnesses). However, this will not cause the celebration of those two deaths, by evil men, but the three and 1/2 days leads up to that celebration, of that only timed year, to line up exactly, with that day of birth! So in the midst of their celebration shall their ascension appear! Then afterwards, comes that 30 days for that evil one who harmed God's servants, to be complete. Then that 45 days of respite before the coming forth of Jesus' 2nd appearing, before the eyes of all. Then shall be the completion of the fruit and the ripeness of the fig thereof.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2783420


Enoch is not one of the of the two witnesses of 11.3, nor is Elijah, or Moses. People who believe this false teaching are oblivious of the fact that once a person, also the Old Testament prophets who are included in Heb 11:39-40, have passed into another existence they will no more come back to participate in what happens under the sun. That is clearly said in Eccl 9:5-6.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: waterman


This thread is clearly all about 2 people seeking a position, even if they have to stomp on Jesus and his followers to get to it and anybody who disagrees with these two people being the two witnesses they will not be tolerated

The real two witnesses themselves could tell you that you were wrong and you would throw rocks at them

Have a good time seeking your positions tell each other we all said "hello", because that is your whole audience


I seek no position; I have no position. I only seek to uphold the Word of God (Holy Scripture), which is the only Truth.

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You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse! No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others! You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble. For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced. Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them! They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another! These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him. Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others! In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418


Hi,

I will now answer and comment on what you say:

You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I do not claim to be a true witness for YOUR God, it suffices that you are his witness, but I do doubt that he be the Lord of Glory. I have my reasons for that doubt!

No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I will ask you if you ever thought about the possibility that what you think is hatred instead is love. Would you for instance say that the following words reveal hatred (Luke 3:7) instead of love?

O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
 Quoting: The Bible


And did not Paul the apostle call certain people dogs? Was he then humble and showing love? If the word hatred per se is a pertinent argument against truth, then why did David say the words you find in Psalm 139:21?

Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
 Quoting: The Bible


Would you say that David was not a true witness of God? That he was filled with hatred and therefore also not humble?

You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Isa 57 firsts tells about the evil times of God's people, about the triumph of their enemies, and about their having been humbled, but then goes on in verses 13 through 15 to tell that the spirit of the humble and contrite will be revived and even dwell in the high and lofty place with their Lord, as the following words show us:

but he that putteth his trust in me shall possess the land, and shall inherit my holy mountain; And shall say, Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the stumblingblock out of the way of my people. For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
 Quoting: The Bible


This chapter of Isaiah shows that there will come about a great change in which the Lord will not contend for ever. Scripure tells us that He contends through His witnesses, those who have been revived and given the right to dwell in the high and holy place. Therefore, when such people speak and contend from the high but holy place their opponents will for sure hold them to be haughty people. Did you ever look at prophetic things from that perspective?

For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Well, read Isa 57 and pay special attention to these words "I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit. But why do you mean that you are in the position to know what I have experienced? Is not that downright haughtiness on your part?

Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
So you are now telling us here on GLP that you know what or who the two witnesses of Rev 11:3 are or will be? If you knew, which you definitely do not, you would also understand the secret of Dan 8:13-14:

Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 Quoting: The Bible


How would you for instance explain the seemingly different answers given basically to the same question in Dan 8:14 and Dan 12:7, which one of the two witnesses asks? Show us now that know about these things in your humbleness while I do not in my haughtiness!

They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When your Mickey Mouse speaks there is no threat and death in his world but I say to you that when the true two witnesses speak there will be a division between life and death, for with their testimony comes the "hour of temptation" (Rev 3:10), which means that Satan will do his utmost to prevent people from understanding and believing their everlasting gospel. Whoever speaks against them defends his own selfish purpose, and in doing so he also belittles himself and bears himself the responsibility for it.

These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
What things do you mean? I would recommend that you read Psalm 149 and tell us what honour is meant in Psalm 149:9, and given to who for what purpose? Scripture is authority and cannot be ignored!

Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When you speak of your overly kind Master you seem to have quite a different Lord than David had, for he said this about his Lord (Psalm 7:11):

God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked EVERY DAY.
 Quoting: The Bible


God is angry all the time, for He is a consuming fire!

In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Whom have you served for four decades since you still are so ignorant of the most fundamental truths in Scripture, both of the true gospel (the song of the Lamb) and of the law (the song of Moses)? Let alone the prophecies!

One last question: Do you believe that the true two witnesses of Rev 11:3 should be polite and subservient (humble) to those who propagate false doctrine on earth today?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347
The propagation of false doctrine on earth is not something that can be established by your determination. Because, I have not observed any given authority, exampled through any insight, on your part.

You are using examples of God's Word to manipulate any situation that might prove favorable on your behalf. Nevertheless, you take the subject matter out of the way to prove what is not the true example. We are not talking about David's enemies here, but your own self induced foes! So substituting the Word on behalf of yourself in defense of David's claim; is like speaking on behalf of another with no objections from that source, because of his absence! Anyone with any insight could see this strategy is not in defense of the Word, but simply the claim to prove one's inability to project a reasonable argument against a scriptural sound commentary, by other individuals!

In the finally analysis, my friend. I do not see any enemy here on this thread. Only those who desire to express a different opinion then yours. Yet, you classified such as your enemies, equal with the foes David had to contend with. Sorry, I am not buying it. Opinions of others are not foes to the truth, but insights of other possibilities of the mysteries of God's Word not yet discovered!

The times of the numbers are of those effects within those two witnesses, that appeared on that day of Daniel's vision. To know the birth of the day of Enoch, reveals the mysteries of the days spoken. For as it is stated (2Enoch), I died on the same day I was born (paraphrased). Seeing as how Enoch had not yet at that time reached the point of death, it only stands to reason that he is speaking of himself, at a future date, for Enoch has not yet died! So, therefore, that witness, will know of those meanings and the time of those numbers. For the birth and the death of both happenings correspond with the days of that event, the day of the death of the two witnesses. When? On Enoch's birthday (one of the two witnesses). However, this will not cause the celebration of those two deaths, by evil men, but the three and 1/2 days leads up to that celebration, of that only timed year, to line up exactly, with that day of birth! So in the midst of their celebration shall their ascension appear! Then afterwards, comes that 30 days for that evil one who harmed God's servants, to be complete. Then that 45 days of respite before the coming forth of Jesus' 2nd appearing, before the eyes of all. Then shall be the completion of the fruit and the ripeness of the fig thereof.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2783420


Enoch is not one of the of the two witnesses of 11.3, nor is Elijah, or Moses. People who believe this false teaching are oblivious of the fact that once a person, also the Old Testament prophets who are included in Heb 11:39-40, have passed into another existence they will no more come back to participate in what happens under the sun. That is clearly said in Eccl 9:5-6.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: waterman


This thread is clearly all about 2 people seeking a position, even if they have to stomp on Jesus and his followers to get to it and anybody who disagrees with these two people being the two witnesses they will not be tolerated

The real two witnesses themselves could tell you that you were wrong and you would throw rocks at them

Have a good time seeking your positions tell each other we all said "hello", because that is your whole audience
Amen!
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Hi,

I will now answer and comment on what you say:

...


My answer:
I do not claim to be a true witness for YOUR God, it suffices that you are his witness, but I do doubt that he be the Lord of Glory. I have my reasons for that doubt!

...


My answer:
I will ask you if you ever thought about the possibility that what you think is hatred instead is love. Would you for instance say that the following words reveal hatred (Luke 3:7) instead of love?

...


And did not Paul the apostle call certain people dogs? Was he then humble and showing love? If the word hatred per se is a pertinent argument against truth, then why did David say the words you find in Psalm 139:21?

...


Would you say that David was not a true witness of God? That he was filled with hatred and therefore also not humble?

...


My answer:
Isa 57 firsts tells about the evil times of God's people, about the triumph of their enemies, and about their having been humbled, but then goes on in verses 13 through 15 to tell that the spirit of the humble and contrite will be revived and even dwell in the high and lofty place with their Lord, as the following words show us:

...


This chapter of Isaiah shows that there will come about a great change in which the Lord will not contend for ever. Scripure tells us that He contends through His witnesses, those who have been revived and given the right to dwell in the high and holy place. Therefore, when such people speak and contend from the high but holy place their opponents will for sure hold them to be haughty people. Did you ever look at prophetic things from that perspective?

...


My answer:
Well, read Isa 57 and pay special attention to these words "I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit. But why do you mean that you are in the position to know what I have experienced? Is not that downright haughtiness on your part?

...


My answer:
So you are now telling us here on GLP that you know what or who the two witnesses of Rev 11:3 are or will be? If you knew, which you definitely do not, you would also understand the secret of Dan 8:13-14:

...


How would you for instance explain the seemingly different answers given basically to the same question in Dan 8:14 and Dan 12:7, which one of the two witnesses asks? Show us now that know about these things in your humbleness while I do not in my haughtiness!

...


My answer:
When your Mickey Mouse speaks there is no threat and death in his world but I say to you that when the true two witnesses speak there will be a division between life and death, for with their testimony comes the "hour of temptation" (Rev 3:10), which means that Satan will do his utmost to prevent people from understanding and believing their everlasting gospel. Whoever speaks against them defends his own selfish purpose, and in doing so he also belittles himself and bears himself the responsibility for it.

...


My answer:
What things do you mean? I would recommend that you read Psalm 149 and tell us what honour is meant in Psalm 149:9, and given to who for what purpose? Scripture is authority and cannot be ignored!

...


My answer:
When you speak of your overly kind Master you seem to have quite a different Lord than David had, for he said this about his Lord (Psalm 7:11):

...


God is angry all the time, for He is a consuming fire!

...


My answer:
Whom have you served for four decades since you still are so ignorant of the most fundamental truths in Scripture, both of the true gospel (the song of the Lamb) and of the law (the song of Moses)? Let alone the prophecies!

One last question: Do you believe that the true two witnesses of Rev 11:3 should be polite and subservient (humble) to those who propagate false doctrine on earth today?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347
The propagation of false doctrine on earth is not something that can be established by your determination. Because, I have not observed any given authority, exampled through any insight, on your part.

You are using examples of God's Word to manipulate any situation that might prove favorable on your behalf. Nevertheless, you take the subject matter out of the way to prove what is not the true example. We are not talking about David's enemies here, but your own self induced foes! So substituting the Word on behalf of yourself in defense of David's claim; is like speaking on behalf of another with no objections from that source, because of his absence! Anyone with any insight could see this strategy is not in defense of the Word, but simply the claim to prove one's inability to project a reasonable argument against a scriptural sound commentary, by other individuals!

In the finally analysis, my friend. I do not see any enemy here on this thread. Only those who desire to express a different opinion then yours. Yet, you classified such as your enemies, equal with the foes David had to contend with. Sorry, I am not buying it. Opinions of others are not foes to the truth, but insights of other possibilities of the mysteries of God's Word not yet discovered!

The times of the numbers are of those effects within those two witnesses, that appeared on that day of Daniel's vision. To know the birth of the day of Enoch, reveals the mysteries of the days spoken. For as it is stated (2Enoch), I died on the same day I was born (paraphrased). Seeing as how Enoch had not yet at that time reached the point of death, it only stands to reason that he is speaking of himself, at a future date, for Enoch has not yet died! So, therefore, that witness, will know of those meanings and the time of those numbers. For the birth and the death of both happenings correspond with the days of that event, the day of the death of the two witnesses. When? On Enoch's birthday (one of the two witnesses). However, this will not cause the celebration of those two deaths, by evil men, but the three and 1/2 days leads up to that celebration, of that only timed year, to line up exactly, with that day of birth! So in the midst of their celebration shall their ascension appear! Then afterwards, comes that 30 days for that evil one who harmed God's servants, to be complete. Then that 45 days of respite before the coming forth of Jesus' 2nd appearing, before the eyes of all. Then shall be the completion of the fruit and the ripeness of the fig thereof.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2783420


Enoch is not one of the of the two witnesses of 11.3, nor is Elijah, or Moses. People who believe this false teaching are oblivious of the fact that once a person, also the Old Testament prophets who are included in Heb 11:39-40, have passed into another existence they will no more come back to participate in what happens under the sun. That is clearly said in Eccl 9:5-6.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: waterman


This thread is clearly all about 2 people seeking a position, even if they have to stomp on Jesus and his followers to get to it and anybody who disagrees with these two people being the two witnesses they will not be tolerated

The real two witnesses themselves could tell you that you were wrong and you would throw rocks at them

Have a good time seeking your positions tell each other we all said "hello", because that is your whole audience
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347
Amen!


Read Zechariah 4-8.

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You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse! No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others! You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble. For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced. Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them! They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another! These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him. Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others! In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418


Hi,

I will now answer and comment on what you say:

You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I do not claim to be a true witness for YOUR God, it suffices that you are his witness, but I do doubt that he be the Lord of Glory. I have my reasons for that doubt!

No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I will ask you if you ever thought about the possibility that what you think is hatred instead is love. Would you for instance say that the following words reveal hatred (Luke 3:7) instead of love?

O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
 Quoting: The Bible


And did not Paul the apostle call certain people dogs? Was he then humble and showing love? If the word hatred per se is a pertinent argument against truth, then why did David say the words you find in Psalm 139:21?

Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
 Quoting: The Bible


Would you say that David was not a true witness of God? That he was filled with hatred and therefore also not humble?

You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Isa 57 firsts tells about the evil times of God's people, about the triumph of their enemies, and about their having been humbled, but then goes on in verses 13 through 15 to tell that the spirit of the humble and contrite will be revived and even dwell in the high and lofty place with their Lord, as the following words show us:

but he that putteth his trust in me shall possess the land, and shall inherit my holy mountain; And shall say, Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the stumblingblock out of the way of my people. For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
 Quoting: The Bible


This chapter of Isaiah shows that there will come about a great change in which the Lord will not contend for ever. Scripure tells us that He contends through His witnesses, those who have been revived and given the right to dwell in the high and holy place. Therefore, when such people speak and contend from the high but holy place their opponents will for sure hold them to be haughty people. Did you ever look at prophetic things from that perspective?

For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Well, read Isa 57 and pay special attention to these words "I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit. But why do you mean that you are in the position to know what I have experienced? Is not that downright haughtiness on your part?

Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
So you are now telling us here on GLP that you know what or who the two witnesses of Rev 11:3 are or will be? If you knew, which you definitely do not, you would also understand the secret of Dan 8:13-14:

Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 Quoting: The Bible


How would you for instance explain the seemingly different answers given basically to the same question in Dan 8:14 and Dan 12:7, which one of the two witnesses asks? Show us now that know about these things in your humbleness while I do not in my haughtiness!

They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When your Mickey Mouse speaks there is no threat and death in his world but I say to you that when the true two witnesses speak there will be a division between life and death, for with their testimony comes the "hour of temptation" (Rev 3:10), which means that Satan will do his utmost to prevent people from understanding and believing their everlasting gospel. Whoever speaks against them defends his own selfish purpose, and in doing so he also belittles himself and bears himself the responsibility for it.

These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
What things do you mean? I would recommend that you read Psalm 149 and tell us what honour is meant in Psalm 149:9, and given to who for what purpose? Scripture is authority and cannot be ignored!

Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When you speak of your overly kind Master you seem to have quite a different Lord than David had, for he said this about his Lord (Psalm 7:11):

God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked EVERY DAY.
 Quoting: The Bible


God is angry all the time, for He is a consuming fire!

In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Whom have you served for four decades since you still are so ignorant of the most fundamental truths in Scripture, both of the true gospel (the song of the Lamb) and of the law (the song of Moses)? Let alone the prophecies!

One last question: Do you believe that the true two witnesses of Rev 11:3 should be polite and subservient (humble) to those who propagate false doctrine on earth today?

Greetings from
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347
The propagation of false doctrine on earth is not something that can be established by your determination. Because, I have not observed any given authority, exampled through any insight, on your part.

You are using examples of God's Word to manipulate any situation that might prove favorable on your behalf. Nevertheless, you take the subject matter out of the way to prove what is not the true example. We are not talking about David's enemies here, but your own self induced foes! So substituting the Word on behalf of yourself in defense of David's claim; is like speaking on behalf of another with no objections from that source, because of his absence! Anyone with any insight could see this strategy is not in defense of the Word, but simply the claim to prove one's inability to project a reasonable argument against a scriptural sound commentary, by other individuals!

In the finally analysis, my friend. I do not see any enemy here on this thread. Only those who desire to express a different opinion then yours. Yet, you classified such as your enemies, equal with the foes David had to contend with. Sorry, I am not buying it. Opinions of others are not foes to the truth, but insights of other possibilities of the mysteries of God's Word not yet discovered!

The times of the numbers are of those effects within those two witnesses, that appeared on that day of Daniel's vision. To know the birth of the day of Enoch, reveals the mysteries of the days spoken. For as it is stated (2Enoch), I died on the same day I was born (paraphrased). Seeing as how Enoch had not yet at that time reached the point of death, it only stands to reason that he is speaking of himself, at a future date, for Enoch has not yet died! So, therefore, that witness, will know of those meanings and the time of those numbers. For the birth and the death of both happenings correspond with the days of that event, the day of the death of the two witnesses. When? On Enoch's birthday (one of the two witnesses). However, this will not cause the celebration of those two deaths, by evil men, but the three and 1/2 days leads up to that celebration, of that only timed year, to line up exactly, with that day of birth! So in the midst of their celebration shall their ascension appear! Then afterwards, comes that 30 days for that evil one who harmed God's servants, to be complete. Then that 45 days of respite before the coming forth of Jesus' 2nd appearing, before the eyes of all. Then shall be the completion of the fruit and the ripeness of the fig thereof.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2783420


Enoch is not one of the of the two witnesses of 11.3, nor is Elijah, or Moses. People who believe this false teaching are oblivious of the fact that once a person, also the Old Testament prophets who are included in Heb 11:39-40, have passed into another existence they will no more come back to participate in what happens under the sun. That is clearly said in Eccl 9:5-6.

RockyMtnLady
Enoch and Elijah shall returned in an order differing from your perspective. For they will appear in that same form as spoken by Jesus. "If you will receive it, this is Elias (Elijah) which was for to come"(KJV). And they did to him as they willed! Yet, they heard the words with ears of flesh, and so perceived those things in those ways. True, men of flesh do not return as (Eccl) spoke of, but the spirit, not the flesh, is after the manner of the man. God's word is speaking of this course! For the flesh goes to its place, and the soul in its place, finds its abode, and the spirit goes forth by direction of him who gives the command. Therefore, if the spirit rest, it is by command, and if it goes forth, it also is by that command.
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Hi,

I will now answer and comment on what you say.

"Why I ask you is that God gave me seven eyes through the stone of perfection, which is Christ. That is foretold in Scripture, so you cannot annul it."

These are unsubstantiated claims. I will not just take your word for it. How about provide some EVIDENCE for these claims. You match none of the things that the Bible says about the two witnesses. You have proven nothing. You are just like the others. You are just like Chip. No evidence, just unsubstantiated claims, one after the other and I don't believe them for a second. You don't know the word of God as well as you like to think you do. You take it out of context a lot which no true witness would do, they will know how to apply it it's correct context and will NOT twist it to suit their agenda like you have.
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


My answer:
For a person who does not know biblical times and numbers and the setting of prophecies, both historical and spiritual, it is natural to see only "unsubstantiaed claims". This is clearly said by Paul the apostle in 1 Cor 2:14:
But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 Quoting: The Bible

Since you say that Paul is false you are in fact making unsubstantiated claims yourself, without having any evidence for what you say. In Isa 46:10 God speaks through His prophet saying this:
Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure.
 Quoting: The Bible

What this means is that the words that God declared from the beginning about things yet to come, for instance about the two witnesses of Rev 11:3, have both a literal and a spiritual meaning, for the old literal worship of God through sacrifices has become a spiritual worship through the Holy Spirit, yet both the literal and the spiritual meanings are hidden in the same prophetic words. As long as you do not see this biblical fact you will also not see substantiated truths. That I am like "the others", Chip included, is just rubbish on your part, for none of them have spoken according to Scripture as I have done. That is why their words can be easily refuted while my words are firmly based on Scripture. When you say that I "don't know the word of God as well as you like to think you do," you are in fact speaking about yourself! That I take the word of God, as you say, "out of context a lot which no true witness would do," will be impossible for you to prove. So until you prove your words you will stay a liar.

One example is he comes from the north. I forget what book it comes from, please remind me again. It apply s to King Nebuchadnezzar or the Babylonians but you shamefully twist it in regards to you. You also claim to be an angel which is ludicrous in itself and can not be true since you were born of a Women. You are false Prophet who is headed to the Lake of Fire if you do not repent of your lies and deceptions.
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


My answer:
What Scripture foretells about the one that comes from the north, which I have referred to, is the following verse (Isa 41:25):
I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay.
The context of this verse is Isa 41 which threatens ungodly peoples and comforts Israel, so how can you say that the verse refers to King Nebuchadnezzar or the Babylonians? The chapter does not foretell the victory by the Babylonians over Israel but rather the victory by Israel over her enemies. It is you who take the verse out of context and therefore found yourself to be what you accuse me of being. What a shame!
Why do you blame me for saying that I am an angel of God? What do you think is worse, being an angel or being among them who Scripture calls "gods"? I suppose you will say that Jesus is a false teacher like you say Paul is, since Jesus said the following words (Joh 10:34-36):
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That I am ludicrous, as you say, is no wonder, for those who think so and have a laugh are depicted in Psalm 80:6:
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Since you are so cocksure about me being what you call a "false Prophet", why are you so weak as not to be able to refute my words? Instead of refuting me you are yourself being refuted, as all people can see here on GLP. Again, what a shame! And why do you call me a prophet in spite of me being a witness. Do you not respect Scripture?

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My answer:
No, I am not twisting what you say, for in spite of first saying that you do not understand me you dare proceed to judge what you do not understand! You are very dishonest to reality! When you say that you fully understand me you are once again contradicting yourself, now saying instead that you do understand me, even fully! Could we say that your behaviour is ludicrous?
What should I provide chapter and verse for, to prove what? Can a person like you, who denounce the words of our Saviour, Jesus Christ, and of His apostle and witness, Paul?

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And where did I claim Prophecy's fulfilled?

which doesn't say that two prophets become witnesses but rather that two witnesses become prophets.
 Quoting: The Bible

They are one and the same so now you are just hair-splitting. You are twisting like a slippery eel to give yourself leg room.
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


My answer:
Are they? If a witness of God be automatically also a prophet, then try to apply that falsehood of yours on people who lived in the Old Testament time, who were of God. Read Isa 43:10:
Ye are my witnesses, saith Jehovah, and my servant whom I have chosen; that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
 Quoting: The Bible

Here it is explained that they are witnesses in respect of knowing and believing in God, not because of the faculty of prophesying. In Heb 1:1:
God, having of old time spoken unto the fathers in the prophets by divers portions and in divers manners.
 Quoting: The Bible

Would you say that all the fathers unto whom the prophets spoke were themselves prophets, and if so, why should a true prophet speak to a true prophet, as though the latter were no prophet at all? Or, since the fathers were spoken to by the prophets, would you say that they were ungodly people, such as knew and believed not in God? If you admit that they indeed did know and believe in God then you must also admit that they were witnesses of God, in spite of not being prophets! You see, I am not splitting hair or twisting Scripture, but speaking from the foundation of Scripture, at the same time showing you to be wrong.

REVELATION 11:3 "And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth." 4 These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth. 5 And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner. 6 These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire. (NKJV)

You have done none of those things and you have been doing this for over the set time which is 1260days. You fail.
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


My answer:
Are you sure? Have I not already refuted your lies and thus showed everybody that there is no living water in you, only falsehood, and in doing so I have made your water into blood, showing it to be a mixture of lies that kills and thus from the Devil himself! Your ignorance does not annul the true meaning of Scripture. You think in your stupidity that the time period of the two witnesses is "one thousand two hundred and sixty days," but that is wrong since that time period applies to their work as prophets and not as witnesses.

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To this above just shows you to be a lawless, apostate, Lutheran anti-Christ.

The Law has always been literal, you are just spouting false Prophet Pauline doctrine. You are so obvious. You bring nothing new but only your vain egocentricity.
 Quoting: TheSeventhGate


My answer:
What law are you speaking about? If you mean God's law I will ask you why the law of God who is Spirit would be only literal? He who commands the whole universe and all existence, why should His law be reduced to the material world of small human beings on this earth? We need no Paul to understand the right answer, though he has the right answer in spite of your disrespect of him.

Since you say that I am so obvious in my vain egocentricity people will wonder why you do not feel and see my power in Scripture, such as has put you to shame without yourself having yet understood it. Go on in your stupidity and lick your wounds in the end, for the true witness of God has spoken against you!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646
You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse! No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others! You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble. For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced. Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them! They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another! These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him. Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others! In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347

amen
 Quoting: waterman


Hello Waterman,

I read your opinion on the rapture and the last week of the 70 weeks of Dan 9:24, and I also see that you endorse the rubbish of the Anonymous Coward 22728347, so I will now ask you in sincerity:

Do you believe that the Holy Spirit taught you what you propagate here on GLP? If so, then let me tell you that you are totally wrong on both issues and therefore ought to more ears than mouth!!!

If not, then you will be very sorry in the end, for there are seeing people around to refute you in an devastating way, and, in addition, a God Almighty who will punish you for your twistings of Scripture.

If you want to lie then make up your own stories instead of laying your hands on Scripture in order to involve it as though you could do that with falsehood without at the same time calling down the wrath of God upon yourself!

Therefore, stop being stupid, or else, I will fight you and destroy your lies here on GLP in the sight of people, and the shame will then lie upon you for eternal death. It will NOT be forgiven if you go that far!

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The true witness of God
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Hello Waterman,

I read your opinion on the rapture and the last week of the 70 weeks of Dan 9:24, and I also see that you endorse the rubbish of the Anonymous Coward 22728347, so I will now ask you in sincerity:

Do you believe that the Holy Spirit taught you what you propagate here on GLP? If so, then let me tell you that you are totally wrong on both issues, the rapture and Israel, and therefore ought to be more ears than mouth!!!

If not, then you will be very sorry in the end, for there are seeing people around to refute you in a devastating way, and, in addition, a God Almighty who will punish you for your twistings of Scripture.

If you want to lie then make up your own stories instead of laying your hands on Scripture in order to involve it as though you could do that with falsehood without at the same time calling down the wrath of God upon yourself!

Therefore, stop being stupid, or else, I will fight you and destroy your lies here on GLP in the sight of people, and the shame will then lie upon you for eternal death. It will NOT be forgiven if you go that far!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
The true witness of God
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Hello Waterman,

I read your opinion on the rapture and the last week of the 70 weeks of Dan 9:24, and I also see that you endorse the rubbish of the Anonymous Coward 22728347, so I will now ask you in sincerity:

Do you believe that the Holy Spirit taught you what you propagate here on GLP? If so, then let me tell you that you are totally wrong on both issues, the rapture and Israel, and therefore ought to be more ears than mouth!!!

If not, then you will be very sorry in the end, for there are seeing people around to refute you in a devastating way, and, in addition, a God Almighty who will punish you for your twistings of Scripture.

If you want to lie then make up your own stories instead of laying your hands on Scripture in order to involve it as though you could do that with falsehood without at the same time calling down the wrath of God upon yourself!

Therefore, stop being stupid, or else, I will fight you and destroy your lies here on GLP in the sight of people, and the shame will then lie upon you for eternal death. It will NOT be forgiven if you go that far!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
The true witness of God
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


When you become a man you will think differently because right now you are only as a child and can only understand as a child.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
Heed the warning or endure the mourning
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Hello Waterman,

I read your opinion on the rapture and the last week of the 70 weeks of Dan 9:24, and I also see that you endorse the rubbish of the Anonymous Coward 22728347, so I will now ask you in sincerity:

Do you believe that the Holy Spirit taught you what you propagate here on GLP? If so, then let me tell you that you are totally wrong on both issues, the rapture and Israel, and therefore ought to be more ears than mouth!!!

If not, then you will be very sorry in the end, for there are seeing people around to refute you in a devastating way, and, in addition, a God Almighty who will punish you for your twistings of Scripture.

If you want to lie then make up your own stories instead of laying your hands on Scripture in order to involve it as though you could do that with falsehood without at the same time calling down the wrath of God upon yourself!

Therefore, stop being stupid, or else, I will fight you and destroy your lies here on GLP in the sight of people, and the shame will then lie upon you for eternal death. It will NOT be forgiven if you go that far!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
The true witness of God
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


When you become a man you will think differently because right now you are only as a child and can only understand as a child.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
 Quoting: waterman


Well then,

So you suppose you will survive the Bible's criticism of your false opinion on rapture (which is a fiction because it annuls the bodily resurrection of the last day as taught by Jesus). Why do you fight the true doctrine of Jesus?

Are you also so stupid as to believe that the last week of Daniel 9:24 is still future? I warn you, stop that stupid or else take the defeat of all who propagate fallacies in the front of God's true witnesses.

After that you go to hell, for you provoke God immensely in this time of the last warning, and will not be forgiven if you go on! So, why do you want to be that stupid?

Greetings from
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Hello Waterman,

I read your opinion on the rapture and the last week of the 70 weeks of Dan 9:24, and I also see that you endorse the rubbish of the Anonymous Coward 22728347, so I will now ask you in sincerity:

Do you believe that the Holy Spirit taught you what you propagate here on GLP? If so, then let me tell you that you are totally wrong on both issues, the rapture and Israel, and therefore ought to be more ears than mouth!!!

If not, then you will be very sorry in the end, for there are seeing people around to refute you in a devastating way, and, in addition, a God Almighty who will punish you for your twistings of Scripture.

If you want to lie then make up your own stories instead of laying your hands on Scripture in order to involve it as though you could do that with falsehood without at the same time calling down the wrath of God upon yourself!

Therefore, stop being stupid, or else, I will fight you and destroy your lies here on GLP in the sight of people, and the shame will then lie upon you for eternal death. It will NOT be forgiven if you go that far!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
The true witness of God
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


When you become a man you will think differently because right now you are only as a child and can only understand as a child.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
 Quoting: waterman


Well then,

So you suppose you will survive the Bible's criticism of your false opinion on rapture (which is a fiction because it annuls the bodily resurrection of the last day as taught by Jesus). Why do you fight the true doctrine of Jesus?

Are you also so stupid as to believe that the last week of Daniel 9:24 is still future? I warn you, stop that stupid or else take the defeat of all who propagate fallacies in the front of God's true witnesses.

After that you go to hell, for you provoke God immensely in this time of the last warning, and will not be forgiven if you go on! So, why do you want to be that stupid?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


Therefore,

If you imply that I am a child whereas you are and adult in spiritual matters, the start proving that rapture as you teach it is found in Scripture, i.e. that it happens before the last day!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
The true witness of God who is INVINCIBLE to whoever is the son or daughter of Satan!!! Take it or leave it, you sons of Satan, for your end is now coming upon you heads!
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Hello Waterman,

I read your opinion on the rapture and the last week of the 70 weeks of Dan 9:24, and I also see that you endorse the rubbish of the Anonymous Coward 22728347, so I will now ask you in sincerity:

Do you believe that the Holy Spirit taught you what you propagate here on GLP? If so, then let me tell you that you are totally wrong on both issues, the rapture and Israel, and therefore ought to be more ears than mouth!!!

If not, then you will be very sorry in the end, for there are seeing people around to refute you in a devastating way, and, in addition, a God Almighty who will punish you for your twistings of Scripture.

If you want to lie then make up your own stories instead of laying your hands on Scripture in order to involve it as though you could do that with falsehood without at the same time calling down the wrath of God upon yourself!

Therefore, stop being stupid, or else, I will fight you and destroy your lies here on GLP in the sight of people, and the shame will then lie upon you for eternal death. It will NOT be forgiven if you go that far!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
The true witness of God
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


When you become a man you will think differently because right now you are only as a child and can only understand as a child.
1 Corinthians 13:11
When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
 Quoting: waterman
To pehjeshuah, from Anonymous Coward 22728347: Threats, intimidation, accusations, prideful display of a selfish motive, and above all to invoke the name of the Almighty to intermingle with your threatening accusations against another. This is but the display of a spoiled little brat of about 13. Sorry to have to say that, most 13 year olds are more mature than this. Nevertheless, as the Word declares, by their fruits you shall know them. When the fruit is this spoiled you not only can see it, but also smell it! I was very insulted that you would classify my comments as rubbish. This comment coming from you, had a profound effect on me. Revealing to me that truth will always be attacked vigorously, by liars, and their Father! Listen, its time to cease with all the nasty remarks on all sides. Lets just agree to disagree and drop it.
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You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse! No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others! You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble. For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced. Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them! They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another! These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him. Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others! In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418


Hi,

I will now answer and comment on what you say:

You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I do not claim to be a true witness for YOUR God, it suffices that you are his witness, but I do doubt that he be the Lord of Glory. I have my reasons for that doubt!

No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others!
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My answer:
I will ask you if you ever thought about the possibility that what you think is hatred instead is love. Would you for instance say that the following words reveal hatred (Luke 3:7) instead of love?

O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
 Quoting: The Bible


And did not Paul the apostle call certain people dogs? Was he then humble and showing love? If the word hatred per se is a pertinent argument against truth, then why did David say the words you find in Psalm 139:21?

Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
 Quoting: The Bible


Would you say that David was not a true witness of God? That he was filled with hatred and therefore also not humble?

You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble.
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My answer:
Isa 57 firsts tells about the evil times of God's people, about the triumph of their enemies, and about their having been humbled, but then goes on in verses 13 through 15 to tell that the spirit of the humble and contrite will be revived and even dwell in the high and lofty place with their Lord, as the following words show us:

but he that putteth his trust in me shall possess the land, and shall inherit my holy mountain; And shall say, Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the stumblingblock out of the way of my people. For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
 Quoting: The Bible


This chapter of Isaiah shows that there will come about a great change in which the Lord will not contend for ever. Scripure tells us that He contends through His witnesses, those who have been revived and given the right to dwell in the high and holy place. Therefore, when such people speak and contend from the high but holy place their opponents will for sure hold them to be haughty people. Did you ever look at prophetic things from that perspective?

For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced.
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My answer:
Well, read Isa 57 and pay special attention to these words "I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit. But why do you mean that you are in the position to know what I have experienced? Is not that downright haughtiness on your part?

Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them!
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My answer:
So you are now telling us here on GLP that you know what or who the two witnesses of Rev 11:3 are or will be? If you knew, which you definitely do not, you would also understand the secret of Dan 8:13-14:

Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 Quoting: The Bible


How would you for instance explain the seemingly different answers given basically to the same question in Dan 8:14 and Dan 12:7, which one of the two witnesses asks? Show us now that know about these things in your humbleness while I do not in my haughtiness!

They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another!
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My answer:
When your Mickey Mouse speaks there is no threat and death in his world but I say to you that when the true two witnesses speak there will be a division between life and death, for with their testimony comes the "hour of temptation" (Rev 3:10), which means that Satan will do his utmost to prevent people from understanding and believing their everlasting gospel. Whoever speaks against them defends his own selfish purpose, and in doing so he also belittles himself and bears himself the responsibility for it.

These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him.
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My answer:
What things do you mean? I would recommend that you read Psalm 149 and tell us what honour is meant in Psalm 149:9, and given to who for what purpose? Scripture is authority and cannot be ignored!

Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When you speak of your overly kind Master you seem to have quite a different Lord than David had, for he said this about his Lord (Psalm 7:11):

God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked EVERY DAY.
 Quoting: The Bible


God is angry all the time, for He is a consuming fire!

In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
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My answer:
Whom have you served for four decades since you still are so ignorant of the most fundamental truths in Scripture, both of the true gospel (the song of the Lamb) and of the law (the song of Moses)? Let alone the prophecies!

One last question: Do you believe that the true two witnesses of Rev 11:3 should be polite and subservient (humble) to those who propagate false doctrine on earth today?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347
The propagation of false doctrine on earth is not something that can be established by your determination. Because, I have not observed any given authority, exampled through any insight, on your part.

You are using examples of God's Word to manipulate any situation that might prove favorable on your behalf. Nevertheless, you take the subject matter out of the way to prove what is not the true example. We are not talking about David's enemies here, but your own self induced foes! So substituting the Word on behalf of yourself in defense of David's claim; is like speaking on behalf of another with no objections from that source, because of his absence! Anyone with any insight could see this strategy is not in defense of the Word, but simply the claim to prove one's inability to project a reasonable argument against a scriptural sound commentary, by other individuals!

In the finally analysis, my friend. I do not see any enemy here on this thread. Only those who desire to express a different opinion then yours. Yet, you classified such as your enemies, equal with the foes David had to contend with. Sorry, I am not buying it. Opinions of others are not foes to the truth, but insights of other possibilities of the mysteries of God's Word not yet discovered!

The times of the numbers are of those effects within those two witnesses, that appeared on that day of Daniel's vision. To know the birth of the day of Enoch, reveals the mysteries of the days spoken. For as it is stated (2Enoch), I died on the same day I was born (paraphrased). Seeing as how Enoch had not yet at that time reached the point of death, it only stands to reason that he is speaking of himself, at a future date, for Enoch has not yet died! So, therefore, that witness, will know of those meanings and the time of those numbers. For the birth and the death of both happenings correspond with the days of that event, the day of the death of the two witnesses. When? On Enoch's birthday (one of the two witnesses). However, this will not cause the celebration of those two deaths, by evil men, but the three and 1/2 days leads up to that celebration, of that only timed year, to line up exactly, with that day of birth! So in the midst of their celebration shall their ascension appear! Then afterwards, comes that 30 days for that evil one who harmed God's servants, to be complete. Then that 45 days of respite before the coming forth of Jesus' 2nd appearing, before the eyes of all. Then shall be the completion of the fruit and the ripeness of the fig thereof.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2783420


Enoch is not one of the of the two witnesses of 11.3, nor is Elijah, or Moses. People who believe this false teaching are oblivious of the fact that once a person, also the Old Testament prophets who are included in Heb 11:39-40, have passed into another existence they will no more come back to participate in what happens under the sun. That is clearly said in Eccl 9:5-6.

RockyMtnLady
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This thread is clearly all about 2 people seeking a position, even if they have to stomp on Jesus and his followers to get to it and anybody who disagrees with these two people being the two witnesses they will not be tolerated

T[b9he real two witnesses themselves could tell you that you were wrong and you would throw rocks at them

Have a good time seeking your positions tell each other we all said "hello", because that is your whole audience


Listen you dumb person,

The true witness of God now testifies in the sight of all youu opposers and devils that RockyMtnLady is right in what she says, and you are wrong, being deceived by Satah.

So, who are now throwing stones, since she won't, you or Satan? I guess he will give you that trouble so that you also receive in the end a more severe judgmment!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
I am proud, and hear it again you devils, I am proud to defeat you and tell you that God Almighty soon will punish you severely beyond your devilish imaginations! You earn it, for you have always had success when killing innocent people, until now!

Now I and my brother and RockyMtnLady her sisters and brothers (who will also come from her country) will have success at paying you back what you indeed deserve, and I, the witness of God, rejoice at seeing it. Fhui how bad I am!!!
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I am a prophet too! I ride velociraptors and yodel the good news to the needy! Fear my talon-ed steed and the words of my warbling mouth!
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This thread is clearly all about 2 people seeking a position, even if they have to stomp on Jesus and his followers to get to it and anybody who disagrees with these two people being the two witnesses they will not be tolerated

The real two witnesses themselves could tell you that you were wrong and you would throw rocks at them

Have a good time seeking your positions tell each other we all said "hello", because that is your whole audience


Listen you dumb person,

The true witness of God now testifies in the sight of all you opposers and devils that RockyMtnLady is right in what she says, and you are wrong, being deceived by Satan.

So, who are now throwing stones, since she won't, you or Satan? I guess he will give you that trouble so that you also receive in the end a more severe judgmment!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

I am proud, and hear it again you devils, I am proud to defeat you and tell you that God Almighty soon will punish you severely beyond your devilish imaginations!

You earn it, for you have always had success when killing innocent people, until now, haven't you, and you thought, you devils, that it would be like that forever!

Now I and my brother and RockyMtnLady and her sisters and brothers (who will also come from her country) will have success at paying you back what you indeed deserve, and I, the witness of God, rejoice at seeing it. Fui how bad I am!!! but, luckily, to you, you sons and daughters of the Devil himself!
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I am a prophet too! I ride velociraptors and yodel the good news to the needy! Fear my talon-ed steed and the words of my warbling mouth!
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Who you are I don't care a minute about, so go and tell Obama that you are special.

But then, I tell you, die with (at least devils') honour with means without fear or shiver of an ungodly person in spite of knowing that the fires of hell is receiving him!

Praise be you intrepidness! But longevity will teach you another lesson, you poor and destitute soul!

Greetings from
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Witness of God Almighty's saving truth!
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This thread is clearly all about 2 people seeking a position, even if they have to stomp on Jesus and his followers to get to it and anybody who disagrees with these two people being the two witnesses they will not be tolerated

The real two witnesses themselves could tell you that you were wrong and you would throw rocks at them

Have a good time seeking your positions tell each other we all said "hello", because that is your whole audience
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


Listen you dumb person,

The true witness of God now testifies in the sight of all you opposers and devils that RockyMtnLady is right in what she says, and you are wrong, being deceived by Satan.

So, who are now throwing stones, since she won't, you or Satan? I guess he will give you that trouble so that you also receive in the end a more severe judgmment!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

I am proud, and hear it again you devils, I am proud to defeat you and tell you that God Almighty soon will punish you severely beyond your devilish imaginations!

You earn it, for you have always had success when killing innocent people, until now, haven't you, and you thought, you devils, that it would be like that forever!

Now I and my brother and RockyMtnLady and her sisters and brothers (who will also come from her country) will have success at paying you back what you indeed deserve, and I, the witness of God, rejoice at seeing it. Fui how bad I am!!! but, luckily, to you, you sons and daughters of the Devil himself!

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Easy Mickey...enjoy your song:



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This thread is clearly all about 2 people seeking a position, even if they have to stomp on Jesus and his followers to get to it and anybody who disagrees with these two people being the two witnesses they will not be tolerated

The real two witnesses themselves could tell you that you were wrong and you would throw rocks at them

Have a good time seeking your positions tell each other we all said "hello", because that is your whole audience
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


Listen you dumb person,

The true witness of God now testifies in the sight of all you opposers and devils that RockyMtnLady is right in what she says, and you are wrong, being deceived by Satan.

So, who are now throwing stones, since she won't, you or Satan? I guess he will give you that trouble so that you also receive in the end a more severe judgmment!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

I am proud, and hear it again you devils, I am proud to defeat you and tell you that God Almighty soon will punish you severely beyond your devilish imaginations!

You earn it, for you have always had success when killing innocent people, until now, haven't you, and you thought, you devils, that it would be like that forever!

Now I and my brother and RockyMtnLady and her sisters and brothers (who will also come from her country) will have success at paying you back what you indeed deserve, and I, the witness of God, rejoice at seeing it. Fui how bad I am!!! but, luckily, to you, you sons and daughters of the Devil himself!
 Quoting: waterman

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Easy Mickey...enjoy your song:




Look and listen, you people,

This is his first defeat. He did not dear to answer me on the topic of rapture, and not that of the seventieth week, so what does it means?

Let me tell you the truth, he dares not put his sick figments in front of the true witness of God, who I am, for he does indeed fear that I am really what I tell him that I am.

Do you see how weak he is in his lies? He is indeed, for I guess he will not dare to meet me, the TRUE witness of God with his self-made ideas and empty dreams!

I rejoice at seeing him lose this first encounter! Do you think he will dare to meet me again, if so, let it be, and he will have more severe wounds, such as are worse than his forefathers inflicted on my sisters and brothers in times gone. Now we come back to pay them doubly back, and HELL is their place, for so say God's everlasting word!

Take it or leave it, but you devils will now be judged after Psalm 149.

Greetings from
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All the world will finally see that this trial is from God Almighty!
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This thread is clearly all about 2 people seeking a position, even if they have to stomp on Jesus and his followers to get to it and anybody who disagrees with these two people being the two witnesses they will not be tolerated

The real two witnesses themselves could tell you that you were wrong and you would throw rocks at them

Have a good time seeking your positions tell each other we all said "hello", because that is your whole audience
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


Listen you dumb person,

The true witness of God now testifies in the sight of all you opposers and devils that RockyMtnLady is right in what she says, and you are wrong, being deceived by Satan.

So, who are now throwing stones, since she won't, you or Satan? I guess he will give you that trouble so that you also receive in the end a more severe judgmment!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

I am proud, and hear it again you devils, I am proud to defeat you and tell you that God Almighty soon will punish you severely beyond your devilish imaginations!

You earn it, for you have always had success when killing innocent people, until now, haven't you, and you thought, you devils, that it would be like that forever!

Now I and my brother and RockyMtnLady and her sisters and brothers (who will also come from her country) will have success at paying you back what you indeed deserve, and I, the witness of God, rejoice at seeing it. Fui how bad I am!!! but, luckily, to you, you sons and daughters of the Devil himself!
 Quoting: waterman

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Easy Mickey...enjoy your song:


 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


Look and listen, you people,

This is his first defeat. He did not dear to answer me on the topic of rapture, and not that of the seventieth week, so what does it means?

Let me tell you the truth, he dares not put his sick figments in front of the true witness of God, who I am, for he does indeed fear that I am really what I tell him that I am.

Do you see how weak he is in his lies? He is indeed, for I guess he will not dare to meet me, the TRUE witness of God with his self-made ideas and empty dreams!

I rejoice at seeing him lose this first encounter! Do you think he will dare to meet me again, if so, let it be, and he will have more severe wounds, such as are worse than his forefathers inflicted on my sisters and brothers in times gone. Now we come back to pay them doubly back, and HELL is their place, for so say God's everlasting word!

Take it or leave it, but you devils will now be judged after Psalm 149.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

All the world will finally see that this trial is from God Almighty!




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This was to show you that you are not operating in the position of the witness of God. If you were operating in the power God gives to the two witnesses fire would have come down from the sky and consumed me and clearly I'm still here and you still have power over nothing. Put Jesus first and you will begin to understand things, put yourself first and you will only be filled with hate and bitterness toward people, because you hate the person you are yourself. Go into the wilderness say Lord I was making it all about me and it isn't all about me It's all about you, use me as a servant and Jesus you be the leader. Then your whole life will reflect Jesus instead of hate.

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I, the velociraptor prophect, declare you a fraud in the sight of all people! YODLEAYEEEHOOOOO!!!! That'srighbitch you just got yodeled!
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This thread is clearly all about 2 people seeking a position, even if they have to stomp on Jesus and his followers to get to it and anybody who disagrees with these two people being the two witnesses they will not be tolerated

The real two witnesses themselves could tell you that you were wrong and you would throw rocks at them

Have a good time seeking your positions tell each other we all said "hello", because that is your whole audience
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


Listen you dumb person,

The true witness of God now testifies in the sight of all you opposers and devils that RockyMtnLady is right in what she says, and you are wrong, being deceived by Satan.

So, who are now throwing stones, since she won't, you or Satan? I guess he will give you that trouble so that you also receive in the end a more severe judgmment!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

I am proud, and hear it again you devils, I am proud to defeat you and tell you that God Almighty soon will punish you severely beyond your devilish imaginations!

You earn it, for you have always had success when killing innocent people, until now, haven't you, and you thought, you devils, that it would be like that forever!

Now I and my brother and RockyMtnLady and her sisters and brothers (who will also come from her country) will have success at paying you back what you indeed deserve, and I, the witness of God, rejoice at seeing it. Fui how bad I am!!! but, luckily, to you, you sons and daughters of the Devil himself!
 Quoting: waterman

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Easy Mickey...enjoy your song:


 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


Look and listen, you people,

This is his first defeat. He did not dear to answer me on the topic of rapture, and not that of the seventieth week, so what does it means?

Let me tell you the truth, he dares not put his sick figments in front of the true witness of God, who I am, for he does indeed fear that I am really what I tell him that I am.

Do you see how weak he is in his lies? He is indeed, for I guess he will not dare to meet me, the TRUE witness of God with his self-made ideas and empty dreams!

I rejoice at seeing him lose this first encounter! Do you think he will dare to meet me again, if so, let it be, and he will have more severe wounds, such as are worse than his forefathers inflicted on my sisters and brothers in times gone. Now we come back to pay them doubly back, and HELL is their place, for so say God's everlasting word!

Take it or leave it, but you devils will now be judged after Psalm 149.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

All the world will finally see that this trial is from God Almighty!
 Quoting: waterman




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This was to show you that you are not operating in the position of the witness of God. If you were operating in the power God gives to the two witnesses fire would have come down from the sky and consumed me and clearly I'm still here and you still have power over nothing. Put Jesus first and you will begin to understand things, put yourself first and you will only be filled with hate and bitterness toward people, because you hate the person you are yourself. Go into the wilderness say Lord I was making it all about me and it isn't all about me It's all about you, use me as a servant and Jesus you be the leader. Then your whole life will reflect Jesus instead of hate.


Aren't you funny, you scoundrel,

I put you two questions that you have been intensively propagating here on GLP, the one was rapture, and you sure remember the second one!

Why do you try to sidestep these questions that were so important to you.

Is the last week of Daniel's 70 weeks still not unfulfilled. Are you to scared to answer to this honest question? Does it mean that you without knowing it indeed fear that you are now opposing one of God's two true witnesses?

Come on, you false person, even though you have already lost, but in the least to show some selfdignity, you dastard!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

Let me tell you, you devil, I cannot be defeated, for I am very talented and gifted by God's grace for the very purpose to fight you and your falsehood!!! Halleluyah!

How funny, the devils know me and fear, but you don't and go to hell!!!
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Listen you dumb person,

The true witness of God now testifies in the sight of all you opposers and devils that RockyMtnLady is right in what she says, and you are wrong, being deceived by Satan.

So, who are now throwing stones, since she won't, you or Satan? I guess he will give you that trouble so that you also receive in the end a more severe judgmment!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

I am proud, and hear it again you devils, I am proud to defeat you and tell you that God Almighty soon will punish you severely beyond your devilish imaginations!

You earn it, for you have always had success when killing innocent people, until now, haven't you, and you thought, you devils, that it would be like that forever!

Now I and my brother and RockyMtnLady and her sisters and brothers (who will also come from her country) will have success at paying you back what you indeed deserve, and I, the witness of God, rejoice at seeing it. Fui how bad I am!!! but, luckily, to you, you sons and daughters of the Devil himself!
 Quoting: waterman

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Easy Mickey...enjoy your song:


 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


Look and listen, you people,

This is his first defeat. He did not dear to answer me on the topic of rapture, and not that of the seventieth week, so what does it means?

Let me tell you the truth, he dares not put his sick figments in front of the true witness of God, who I am, for he does indeed fear that I am really what I tell him that I am.

Do you see how weak he is in his lies? He is indeed, for I guess he will not dare to meet me, the TRUE witness of God with his self-made ideas and empty dreams!

I rejoice at seeing him lose this first encounter! Do you think he will dare to meet me again, if so, let it be, and he will have more severe wounds, such as are worse than his forefathers inflicted on my sisters and brothers in times gone. Now we come back to pay them doubly back, and HELL is their place, for so say God's everlasting word!

Take it or leave it, but you devils will now be judged after Psalm 149.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

All the world will finally see that this trial is from God Almighty!
 Quoting: waterman




-------------------------------------------------------------​------
This was to show you that you are not operating in the position of the witness of God. If you were operating in the power God gives to the two witnesses fire would have come down from the sky and consumed me and clearly I'm still here and you still have power over nothing. Put Jesus first and you will begin to understand things, put yourself first and you will only be filled with hate and bitterness toward people, because you hate the person you are yourself. Go into the wilderness say Lord I was making it all about me and it isn't all about me It's all about you, use me as a servant and Jesus you be the leader. Then your whole life will reflect Jesus instead of hate.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


Aren't you funny, you scoundrel,

I put you two questions that you have been intensively propagating here on GLP, the one was rapture, and you sure remember the second one!

Why do you try to sidestep these questions that were so important to you.

Is the last week of Daniel's 70 weeks still not unfulfilled. Are you to scared to answer to this honest question? Does it mean that you without knowing it indeed fear that you are now opposing one of God's two true witnesses?

Come on, you false person, even though you have already lost, but in the least to show some selfdignity, you dastard!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

Let me tell you, you devil, I cannot be defeated, for I am very talented and gifted by God's grace for the very purpose to fight you and your falsehood!!! Halleluyah!

How funny, the devils know me and fear, but you don't and go to hell!!!





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When you become a God seeker instead of a self-seeker we will talk, until them just run your kingdom that is called:

"I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!"

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Easy Mickey...enjoy your song:


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Look and listen, you people,

This is his first defeat. He did not dear to answer me on the topic of rapture, and not that of the seventieth week, so what does it means?

Let me tell you the truth, he dares not put his sick figments in front of the true witness of God, who I am, for he does indeed fear that I am really what I tell him that I am.

Do you see how weak he is in his lies? He is indeed, for I guess he will not dare to meet me, the TRUE witness of God with his self-made ideas and empty dreams!

I rejoice at seeing him lose this first encounter! Do you think he will dare to meet me again, if so, let it be, and he will have more severe wounds, such as are worse than his forefathers inflicted on my sisters and brothers in times gone. Now we come back to pay them doubly back, and HELL is their place, for so say God's everlasting word!

Take it or leave it, but you devils will now be judged after Psalm 149.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

All the world will finally see that this trial is from God Almighty!
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This was to show you that you are not operating in the position of the witness of God. If you were operating in the power God gives to the two witnesses fire would have come down from the sky and consumed me and clearly I'm still here and you still have power over nothing. Put Jesus first and you will begin to understand things, put yourself first and you will only be filled with hate and bitterness toward people, because you hate the person you are yourself. Go into the wilderness say Lord I was making it all about me and it isn't all about me It's all about you, use me as a servant and Jesus you be the leader. Then your whole life will reflect Jesus instead of hate.
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Aren't you funny, you scoundrel,

I put you two questions that you have been intensively propagating here on GLP, the one was rapture, and you sure remember the second one!

Why do you try to sidestep these questions that were so important to you.

Is the last week of Daniel's 70 weeks still not unfulfilled. Are you to scared to answer to this honest question? Does it mean that you without knowing it indeed fear that you are now opposing one of God's two true witnesses?

Come on, you false person, even though you have already lost, but in the least to show some selfdignity, you dastard!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

Let me tell you, you devil, I cannot be defeated, for I am very talented and gifted by God's grace for the very purpose to fight you and your falsehood!!! Halleluyah!

How funny, the devils know me and fear, but you don't and go to hell!!!
 Quoting: waterman





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When you become a God seeker instead of a self-seeker we will talk, until them just run your kingdom that is called:

"I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!"


Okay, let me be a selfseeker,

but what would you say to people who on GLP wait for your answer about the last week of the 70 weeks of Dan 24 and about what you in you selfsame person have said about the rapture.

Are you suddenly becone dumb, or what, you false person?

PehJeshuah

The true witness of God who is now giving this liar a hardt time in his stupidity!
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Dear people,

you who seek the truth of our Almighty God, do you not see that all who oppose me (little me who tell them and you that I am indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3) try dishonestly to evade my questions put to them in honesty? That is the way of the Devil!

Do you not see my power, my convincing power against them, my God-given power to handle them?

Listen, learn, practise what I tell you, for I tell you with my own life as confirmation that if you fail you will lose your eternal life.

Therefore, listen, understand that I speak what is the ruth and Scripture!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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Dear people,

you who seek the truth of our Almighty God, do you not see that all who oppose me (little me who tell them and you that I am indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3) try dishonestly to evade my questions put to them in honesty? That is the way of the Devil!

Do you not see my power, my convincing power against them, my God-given power to handle them?

Listen, learn, practise what I tell you, for I tell you with my own life as confirmation that if you fail you will lose your eternal life.

Therefore, listen, understand that I speak what is the ruth and Scripture!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


Lol! It's the great and powerful pj: I agree you speak "ruth"



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Dear people,

you who seek the truth of our Almighty God, do you not see that all who oppose me (little me who tell them and you that I am indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3) try dishonestly to evade my questions put to them in honesty? That is the way of the Devil!

Do you not see my power, my convincing power against them, my God-given power to handle them?

Listen, learn, practise what I tell you, for I tell you with my own life as confirmation that if you fail you will lose your eternal life.

Therefore, listen, understand that I speak what is the ruth and Scripture!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


Lol! It's the great and powerful pj: I agree you speak "ruth"


 Quoting: waterman


Dear people

all of see what a coward he is, playing at typoes instead of answering honest questions!

What a fake he is! A son of the devil!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

You will not escape, so try your best but die eventually an everlasting death, you son of the Devil!
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Dear people,

you who seek the truth of our Almighty God, do you not see that all who oppose me (little me who tell them and you that I am indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3) try dishonestly to evade my questions put to them in honesty? That is the way of the Devil!

Do you not see my power, my convincing power against them, my God-given power to handle them?

Listen, learn, practise what I tell you, for I tell you with my own life as confirmation that if you fail you will lose your eternal life.

Therefore, listen, understand that I speak what is the ruth and Scripture!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 28365646


Lol! It's the great and powerful pj: I agree you speak "ruth"


 Quoting: waterman


Dear people

all of see what a coward he is, playing at typoes instead of answering honest questions!

What a fake he is! A son of the devil!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

You will not escape, so try your best but die eventually an everlasting death, you son of the Devil!

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....You should never need the approval of the people, if you claim your god is on your side. This only shows your own insecurity. Never an appropriate approach, to appeal to the dear people, by one who claims to be a prophet of your god! I am ashamed of you Mickey! I mean pehJeshuah. Your god apparently is not sufficient enough to back you up, you need all humanity as well. It looks like you would have at least considered how a prophet thinks, or at least acts, before you started claiming to be one. Sorry but you are a poor actor, and even a worse so called prophet.
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THREAD CLOSED BECAUSE OF TOO MUCH BULLSHIT AND EGOFIGHTS AND FOLLOWING FALSIFIED OLD BOOKS!!!!


GO OUT OF THIS THREAD!

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The only thing you are Peh is an impotent arrogant old man. God would not use the likes of you for such a position. To suggest otherwise is laughable. You are nothing but a powerless arm-chair false-Prophet and you can go to hell where you belong if you do not repent. I laugh at what you write, the total nonsense and I spit on your threats and claims. You are a deluded old man with delusions of grandeur. Now fulfill Prophecy and strike me down, oh wait, you can't. lmao

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