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| waterman User ID: 26724077 12/23/2012 10:58 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: waterman The man-child has not come forth yet because he hasn't went through the 42 month furnace of affliction of the destruction of the united states and the concentration camp tortures. Just like the Mahdi, the manchild comes forth from the well as you see in many movies, batman, the ring, cold creek manor, and others I did not ask you, you idiot, and your answers or lack of answers prove that you are what I say. Shut up and start listening instead! Greetings from PehJeshuah only because you don't seek truth, you only seek self-glorification! Can you please put something into your asshole so we need not smell or hear your crap, for the Bible and God's true messengers need not any Mahdi or any movies of Batman, the Ring or whatever! The truth is before all your lies! And since you fight the truth you will go to hell! Greetings from PehJeshuah great come back...that must have taken seconds and the advice of a 2nd grader to think of....lol...I'm sure you added the swear words |
| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/23/2012 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: PehJeshuah 30738299 Hello, What about verses 7 and 8, that are very important for the whole chapter that you refer us to? I look forward to hear your meaning about these verses, and also, if you want, about the whole chapter. Sorry about asking you, but there are so many false pastors and preachers around who make believe that they know what they are talking about when they are, nevertheless, "falsely" (my opinion) expounding Scripture. Greetings from PehJeshuah The man-child has not come forth yet because he hasn't went through the 42 month furnace of affliction of the destruction of the united states and the concentration camp tortures. Just like the Mahdi, the manchild comes forth from the well as you see in many movies, batman, the ring, cold creek manor, and others I did not ask you, you idiot, and your answers or lack of answers prove that you are what I say. Shut up and start listening instead! Greetings from PehJeshuah only because you don't seek truth, you only seek self-glorification! Why do you speak rubbish instead of honestly answering me why you and how you can compare me to Hitler! Why do you, dastard, try to escape yourself? You cannot, for you are fighting God's true witness, and as such I know how to fight you, you liars and devils! Greetings from PehJeshuah |
| waterman User ID: 26724077 12/23/2012 11:01 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: PehJeshuah 30738299 I did not ask you, you idiot, and your answers or lack of answers prove that you are what I say. Shut up and start listening instead! Greetings from PehJeshuah only because you don't seek truth, you only seek self-glorification! Can you please put something into your asshole so we need not smell or hear your crap, for the Bible and God's true messengers need not any Mahdi or any movies of Batman, the Ring or whatever! The truth is before all your lies! And since you fight the truth you will go to hell! Greetings from PehJeshuah great come back...that must have taken seconds and the advice of a 2nd grader to think of....lol...I'm sure you added the swear words |
| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/23/2012 11:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! Can you please put something into your asshole so we need not smell or hear your crap, for the Bible and God's true messengers need not any Mahdi or any movies of Batman, the Ring or whatever! The truth is before all your lies! And since you fight the truth you will go to hell! Greetings from PehJeshuah great come back...that must have taken seconds and the advice of a 2nd grader to think of....lol...I'm sure you added the swear words I now need not answer you anymore, for people who honestly read what you have said and I will see that you are a dirty asshole of the Devil. Go on and meet your destiny, I am finished with you! Greetings from PehJeshuah THE TRUE WITNESS WITH HIS WORDS AGAINS WATERMAN. ALL UNIVERSE WILL WITNESS THE TRUTH OF WHAT IS HERE SAID! |
| waterman User ID: 26724077 12/23/2012 11:06 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: PehJeshuah 30738299 Can you please put something into your asshole so we need not smell or hear your crap, for the Bible and God's true messengers need not any Mahdi or any movies of Batman, the Ring or whatever! The truth is before all your lies! And since you fight the truth you will go to hell! Greetings from PehJeshuah great come back...that must have taken seconds and the advice of a 2nd grader to think of....lol...I'm sure you added the swear words I now need not answer you anymore, for people who honestly read what you have said and I will see that you are a dirty asshole of the Devil. Go on and meet your destiny, I am finished with you! Greetings from PehJeshuah THE TRUE WITNESS WITH HIS WORDS AGAINS WATERMAN. ALL UNIVERSE WILL WITNESS THE TRUTH OF WHAT IS HERE SAID! What a funny little man that adds nothing to the kingdom of God, may he find mercy on your soul! |
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| TheSeventhGate User ID: 30723411 12/24/2012 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: TheSeventhGate Oh look, the weasel is back. How exactly do I not understand water baptism? I think it's pretty obvious what it is. Now, did you think I was going to let you just come back here and start talking shite again when you contradicted the Messiah on a Salvation issue, water baptism. Let me remind everyone what you did and to your public shame. "There is more in the article on "baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel", than you seem to realize, for if you had known its message you would know that God has now made away with everything that sounds of baptism by natural water, and He has made away with everything materialistic about Him, that false teachers teach and promote. God is now making all your churches leprous, and will eventually destroy them all." 'PehJeshuah's' quote. “There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again” (John 3:1-7). Repent or go to hell you viper! Until I tell you how exactly you do not understand water baptism, being a disciple of Scott Nelson, you should take a look at what is said in the following text: Best Answer - Chosen by Voters Quoting: Scott SI have been reading the linked page and book by Scott Nelson. I’m immediately struck by two problems the author has that put his entire proposal in the realm of misunderstanding. First, he makes the audacious claim that the church has been wrong about Paul for 2000 years and further that parts of the Bible (the parts that falsify his theory) can’t be trusted. These types of claims, that is, an appeal to special knowledge and biblical errors, are also made by other religions such as: Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Islam, and many other small religious groups. That’s a big red flag. There is too much evidence against Nelson’s theories from Church history. For instance, we have the writings of the early church fathers (patristics), going back to those who were students of the apostles (not just Paul) and they understood that Paul was an apostle and that his teaching was in agreement with the other apostles. For instance, a man named Polycarp was a disciple of the apostle John (See the International Standard Bible Ency., Vol. 1, Page 210). Polycarp was a leader in the early church in the latter half of the first century. He wrote a letter to the Philippians. Below is a paragraph from that letter which clearly shows the early church respect and agreement with Paul. “These things, brethren, I write to you concerning righteousness, not because I take anything upon myself, but because ye have invited me to do so. For neither I, nor any other such one, can come up to the wisdom of the blessed and glorified Paul. He, when among you, accurately and stedfastly taught the word of truth in the presence of those who were then alive. And when absent from you, he wrote you a letter, which, if you carefully study, you will find to be the means of building you up in that faith which has been given you, and which, being followed by hope, and preceded by love towards God, and Christ, and our neighbour, “is the mother of us all.” For if any one be inwardly possessed of these graces, he hath fulfilled the command of righteousness, since he that hath love is far from all sin.” Source: Roberts, A., Donaldson, J., & Coxe, A. C. (1997). The Ante-Nicene Fathers Vol.I Scott Nelson badly misunderstands scripture. For example see Chapter 7, Paul: The False Apostle, “His apostleship was unrecognized by others”. Nelson provides a foolish explanation as to why he ignores clear statements in Acts 14 about apostleship of Paul. Nelson then explains that others only refer to Paul, using the word apostle twice in scripture. Why is that a problem? He doesn’t say. He also doesn’t mention that most of the apostles are only called apostles once or twice in scripture. Are we to doubt them too? Peter is called an apostle by others 4x in scripture. Does that mean we should only listen to him? Of course not! I recommend that you carefully study Acts 15. Not only does it show that the church trusted Paul to straighten out a false teaching in nearby church, but the false teaching was trying to apply the Old Testament regulations to Christians. That’s the very same problem Scott Nelson has! These Old Testament regulations in the law are not necessary anymore because they pointed toward Christ. Once Christ came, he is to be our focus, not the former things that pointed to him. That point is proved by the apostles’ behavior recorded in the Bible Good luck! Greetings from PehJeshuah Well firstly, I don't need you to tell me what water baptism is because the Bible tells us what it is and it is not hard to understand so you are talking nonsense in that regard. Secondly, I am no disciple of Scott Nelson, someone who's name I had to look up because I didn't know who he was, I am only a disciple of Yeshua and nobody else. I just used that guys site because he makes a good argument for what I already believe to be true. And that copy and paste was a pretty weak argument. How about reading the link I posted and giving me your own opinion and bringing your own criticism and I will refute you. I wish you people a peaceful Christmas time, and I wish that you may relax for some days, and that we afterwards can speak about the serious things, face to face, so to say, by which I mean in honesty Take care of your close people, and let them experience that they are not alone! Best wishes with love from our Lord, Jesus Christ, greetings from PehJeshuah PS. I hope also that the false "prophet" Chip, who told all on GLP that the world would end at this time about a year ago, that he understand that we do not laugh at him, nor ridicule him, but wish that we, after all, can find the way together. We are humans, and we need true guidance, not hate or false love. Best wishes from me, The Brand. Well thank you but I don't have anything to do with that pagan abomination anymore nor would my Heavenly Father want me to. The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready? Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified. Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches. Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations) Saul/Paul, the false Apostle. [link to www.judaismvschristianity.com] [link to www.jesuswordsonly.com] The transplanted Throne of King David to Ireland,Scotland, and England fulfilling Ezekiel 21:25-27 Prophecy. [link to www.henrymakow.com] [link to www.giveshare.org] The "Lost" Ten Tribes of Israel...Found! [link to stevenmcollins.com] Proof that the Law of Moses is still in effect. [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] 777 |
| TheSeventhGate User ID: 30723411 12/24/2012 09:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: TheSeventhGate Oh look, the weasel is back. How exactly do I not understand water baptism? I think it's pretty obvious what it is. Now, did you think I was going to let you just come back here and start talking shite again when you contradicted the Messiah on a Salvation issue, water baptism. Let me remind everyone what you did and to your public shame. "There is more in the article on "baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel", than you seem to realize, for if you had known its message you would know that God has now made away with everything that sounds of baptism by natural water, and He has made away with everything materialistic about Him, that false teachers teach and promote. God is now making all your churches leprous, and will eventually destroy them all." 'PehJeshuah's' quote. “There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again” (John 3:1-7). Repent or go to hell you viper! Until I tell you how exactly you do not understand water baptism, being a disciple of Scott Nelson, you should take a look at what is said in the following text: Best Answer - Chosen by Voters Quoting: Scott SI have been reading the linked page and book by Scott Nelson. I’m immediately struck by two problems the author has that put his entire proposal in the realm of misunderstanding. First, he makes the audacious claim that the church has been wrong about Paul for 2000 years and further that parts of the Bible (the parts that falsify his theory) can’t be trusted. These types of claims, that is, an appeal to special knowledge and biblical errors, are also made by other religions such as: Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Islam, and many other small religious groups. That’s a big red flag. There is too much evidence against Nelson’s theories from Church history. For instance, we have the writings of the early church fathers (patristics), going back to those who were students of the apostles (not just Paul) and they understood that Paul was an apostle and that his teaching was in agreement with the other apostles. For instance, a man named Polycarp was a disciple of the apostle John (See the International Standard Bible Ency., Vol. 1, Page 210). Polycarp was a leader in the early church in the latter half of the first century. He wrote a letter to the Philippians. Below is a paragraph from that letter which clearly shows the early church respect and agreement with Paul. “These things, brethren, I write to you concerning righteousness, not because I take anything upon myself, but because ye have invited me to do so. For neither I, nor any other such one, can come up to the wisdom of the blessed and glorified Paul. He, when among you, accurately and stedfastly taught the word of truth in the presence of those who were then alive. And when absent from you, he wrote you a letter, which, if you carefully study, you will find to be the means of building you up in that faith which has been given you, and which, being followed by hope, and preceded by love towards God, and Christ, and our neighbour, “is the mother of us all.” For if any one be inwardly possessed of these graces, he hath fulfilled the command of righteousness, since he that hath love is far from all sin.” Source: Roberts, A., Donaldson, J., & Coxe, A. C. (1997). The Ante-Nicene Fathers Vol.I Scott Nelson badly misunderstands scripture. For example see Chapter 7, Paul: The False Apostle, “His apostleship was unrecognized by others”. Nelson provides a foolish explanation as to why he ignores clear statements in Acts 14 about apostleship of Paul. Nelson then explains that others only refer to Paul, using the word apostle twice in scripture. Why is that a problem? He doesn’t say. He also doesn’t mention that most of the apostles are only called apostles once or twice in scripture. Are we to doubt them too? Peter is called an apostle by others 4x in scripture. Does that mean we should only listen to him? Of course not! I recommend that you carefully study Acts 15. Not only does it show that the church trusted Paul to straighten out a false teaching in nearby church, but the false teaching was trying to apply the Old Testament regulations to Christians. That’s the very same problem Scott Nelson has! These Old Testament regulations in the law are not necessary anymore because they pointed toward Christ. Once Christ came, he is to be our focus, not the former things that pointed to him. That point is proved by the apostles’ behavior recorded in the Bible Good luck! Greetings from PehJeshuah Well firstly, I don't need you to tell me what water baptism is because the Bible tells us what it is and it is not hard to understand so you are talking nonsense in that regard. Secondly, I am no disciple of Scott Nelson, someone who's name I had to look up because I didn't know who he was, I am only a disciple of Yeshua and nobody else. I just used that guys site because he makes a good argument for what I already believe to be true. And that copy and paste was a pretty weak argument. How about reading the link I posted and giving me your own opinion and bringing your own criticism and I will refute you. Are you telling me and all here on GLP that you will REFUTE me? A (true) refutation of lies and falsehood is of God and His Holy Scripture, meant to help people, so if you can "help" me by refuting me (i.e. lies that have ensnared me, and set me free), it would be very propitious to me and others too. One simple question in this context: If you would meet the two witnesses of God after Rev 11:3 how would you know that they were not just refutible self-proclaimed so-called witnesses, such as you hate? Greetings from PehJeshuah Yes, that is exactly what I am telling you. I would know they were inspired because they would be in total union in doctrine with Yeshua and I am afraid you are not Peh because you have believed the Great Deception in regards to Saul the false Prophet. I mean, so did I when I first became a Christian but the Father was true to his word and wrote his Law on my heart and woke me up to the truth about that viper. Last Edited by TheSeventhGate on 12/24/2012 09:15 AM The pawns are in place, the stage is set. The question is, are you ready? Righteous anger and Zeal does not equate to hate,pride or arrogance and are fully justified. Soon, all the slaves will be released, for the Jubilee approaches. Let them give glory unto the LORD, and declare his praise in the islands. Isaiah 42:12 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins. Genesis 35:11 America(Maneesah), Britain(Ephraim) and the Prophesied Common-Wealth(Company of nations) Saul/Paul, the false Apostle. [link to www.judaismvschristianity.com] [link to www.jesuswordsonly.com] The transplanted Throne of King David to Ireland,Scotland, and England fulfilling Ezekiel 21:25-27 Prophecy. [link to www.henrymakow.com] [link to www.giveshare.org] The "Lost" Ten Tribes of Israel...Found! [link to stevenmcollins.com] Proof that the Law of Moses is still in effect. [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] [link to www.biblegateway.com] 777 |
| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/25/2012 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! Dear people, Do not believe the liars when they propagate as truth the lie that the Antichrist will come AFTER the two witnesses has stepped forward on the world scene to tell you the truth, and also not the lie that the foretold tribulation will last for seven years. These are just devilish lies that contradict the Bible! The Antichrist is no single person (read 2 John 7) but the beast of the sea in Rev 13, so their lies are sent to you through them by Satan only to bewilder you. The truth is that all the fallen Christianity of today IS the Antichrist, and therefore it is foretold in the Bible that the sons of the kingdoms WILL BE THROWN OUT INTO THE DARKNESS, for they are indeed dark. Greetings from PehJeshuah |
| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/25/2012 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! Chip Griffin, Where are you? You did tell people here on GLP that you talked to God face to face and could tell us, since you were one of the foretold two witnesses in Rev 11:3, that the end would be Dec 21 2012, which I did confront you with, telling you that it was a lie and not from God. Will you now come forth and admit that you were deceived when saying such groundless things? Greetings from PehJeshuah |
| WishinForTheMission User ID: 30440704 12/26/2012 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! Hi all! Just checking in to see how everyone is. I was away, and everything was packed up. I have moved... PJ, just curious as to "why" you would celebrate "christmas". Is it NOT an abomination? Well, I hope all is going well for you, and for *everyone*! God Bless! ~~Much Peace, Love, and Light~~Always Concerning life and death: I embrace both equally! |
| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/26/2012 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: PehJeshuah 29860307 Until I tell you how exactly you do not understand water baptism, being a disciple of Scott Nelson, you should take a look at what is said in the following text: ... Good luck! Greetings from PehJeshuah Well firstly, I don't need you to tell me what water baptism is because the Bible tells us what it is and it is not hard to understand so you are talking nonsense in that regard. Secondly, I am no disciple of Scott Nelson, someone who's name I had to look up because I didn't know who he was, I am only a disciple of Yeshua and nobody else. I just used that guys site because he makes a good argument for what I already believe to be true. And that copy and paste was a pretty weak argument. How about reading the link I posted and giving me your own opinion and bringing your own criticism and I will refute you. Are you telling me and all here on GLP that you will REFUTE me? A (true) refutation of lies and falsehood is of God and His Holy Scripture, meant to help people, so if you can "help" me by refuting me (i.e. lies that have ensnared me, and set me free), it would be very propitious to me and others too. One simple question in this context: If you would meet the two witnesses of God after Rev 11:3 how would you know that they were not just refutible self-proclaimed so-called witnesses, such as you hate? Greetings from PehJeshuah Yes, that is exactly what I am telling you. I would know they were inspired because they would be in total union in doctrine with Yeshua and I am afraid you are not Peh because you have believed the Great Deception in regards to Saul the false Prophet. I mean, so did I when I first became a Christian but the Father was true to his word and wrote his Law on my heart and woke me up to the truth about that viper. Well then, So you are saying that if I am what I tell you that I am (as Paul also told in his days), the precondition is that I will be capable of showing that my doctrine is in total union with Jesus, otherwise not? I do agree with you in that, if that is what you mean, so let us shake hands on that one. There is also another side of the same coin, though, namely that if I can show you from Scripture that my doctrine is of Scripture and therefore in total union with Jesus will you therefore accept me to be what I claim to be, or will you instead bring forward new preconditions and demands? Greetings from PehJeshuah God's true witness whose words cannot be refuted because they are of God |
| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/26/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: TheSeventhGate Well firstly, I don't need you to tell me what water baptism is because the Bible tells us what it is and it is not hard to understand so you are talking nonsense in that regard. Secondly, I am no disciple of Scott Nelson, someone who's name I had to look up because I didn't know who he was, I am only a disciple of Yeshua and nobody else. I just used that guys site because he makes a good argument for what I already believe to be true. And that copy and paste was a pretty weak argument. How about reading the link I posted and giving me your own opinion and bringing your own criticism and I will refute you. Are you telling me and all here on GLP that you will REFUTE me? A (true) refutation of lies and falsehood is of God and His Holy Scripture, meant to help people, so if you can "help" me by refuting me (i.e. lies that have ensnared me, and set me free), it would be very propitious to me and others too. One simple question in this context: If you would meet the two witnesses of God after Rev 11:3 how would you know that they were not just refutible self-proclaimed so-called witnesses, such as you hate? Greetings from PehJeshuah Yes, that is exactly what I am telling you. I would know they were inspired because they would be in total union in doctrine with Yeshua and I am afraid you are not Peh because you have believed the Great Deception in regards to Saul the false Prophet. I mean, so did I when I first became a Christian but the Father was true to his word and wrote his Law on my heart and woke me up to the truth about that viper. Well then, So you are saying that if I am what I tell you that I am (as Paul also told in his days), the precondition is that I will be capable of showing that my doctrine is in total union with Jesus, otherwise not? I do agree with you in that, if that is what you mean, so let us shake hands on that one. There is also another side of the same coin, though, namely that if I can show you from Scripture that my doctrine is of Scripture and therefore in total union with Jesus will you therefore accept me to be what I claim to be, or will you instead bring forward new preconditions and demands? Greetings from PehJeshuah God's true witness whose words cannot be refuted because they are of God Let us for a moment forget that "viper" (who in your opinion is Paul) and concentrate on what our Saviour has Himself said and taught! I will come back and show you and everybody else that there is more to it than you have understood up to now in your blindness as to who Paul the Apostle indeed was! Greetings from PehJeshuah Who has now turned into a seraph (a burning snake)! |
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| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/26/2012 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! You have nothing worthwile to say or do except the posting of things that other people made and that have no relevance whatsoever to is being discussed! God said to me about you, Let him go and he will meet what he chose! God has turned His back on you, so go wherever you like, but there will be no God for you since you chose your evil way! Greetings from PehJeshuah |
| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/26/2012 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! Hi all! Just checking in to see how everyone is. I was away, and everything was packed up. I have moved... Quoting: WishinForTheMission PJ, just curious as to "why" you would celebrate "christmas". Is it NOT an abomination? Well, I hope all is going well for you, and for *everyone*! God Bless! If Christmas is an abomination to you what has it got to do with me? If you see the symptoms and like to fight them do so, but I am God's witness who know where the core of evil is to be attacked, fighted and destroyed. I need not your advice, sorry, only your realization that when truth is spoken in our days death still prevails through falsehood where people think life will go on, for what you trust will be what deceived you, and what you hate will be what was true. Greetings from PehJeshuah |
| waterman User ID: 26724077 12/26/2012 07:50 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! You have nothing worthwile to say or do except the posting of things that other people made and that have no relevance whatsoever to is being discussed! God said to me about you, Let him go and he will meet what he chose! God has turned His back on you, so go wherever you like, but there will be no God for you since you chose your evil way! Greetings from PehJeshuah I don't know what magazines you have been reading but my bible states this is how God sees me: (I'm gonna go with what God says) How long is never? Hebrews 13:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. 6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. |
| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/26/2012 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! Sorry about being a BIG MOUTH, but still my mouth speaks what is true to you, and I must be loud in order that you possibly may realize that the idiot, me that is, is indeed saying some reasonable things to you, and possibly even out of love. Listen, when I speak to you, I am not doing so to be your superior, far from it, but my heart, soul and spirit is so angry with all the lies that are told to you. Therefore, I did harden my heart to oppose them who will hurt you for all enterity. I suffered myself for many years myself when people, those false teachers of Antichrist, tried to deceive me by their fantasies and lies. Now I am their very dangerous enemy, and they will lose the battle against me for your sake! I am God's true witness, but not by my own choice, being just a very low person, but my tongue, my lungs, my mind, my brains, my spirit are of the kind that you will never be able to accuse of being false, for I fight for your spiritual health, for your sound and firm knowledge about God, yours and mine, and His truth, and now we will have the victory! God be blessed and loved for all eternity! For holy, holy, holy You are, our Saviour! Greetings from PehJeshuah |
| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/26/2012 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! You have nothing worthwile to say or do except the posting of things that other people made and that have no relevance whatsoever to is being discussed! God said to me about you, Let him go and he will meet what he chose! God has turned His back on you, so go wherever you like, but there will be no God for you since you chose your evil way! Greetings from PehJeshuah I don't know what magazines you have been reading but my bible states this is how God sees me: (I'm gonna go with what God says) How long is never? Hebrews 13:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. 6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. Test it out then, and after that, be thrown into the everlasting fire on the last day. I told you what is true and you did not believe, so you did choose it yourself, not me. Days to come will tell you the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah |
| waterman User ID: 26724077 12/26/2012 08:00 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! You have nothing worthwile to say or do except the posting of things that other people made and that have no relevance whatsoever to is being discussed! God said to me about you, Let him go and he will meet what he chose! God has turned His back on you, so go wherever you like, but there will be no God for you since you chose your evil way! Greetings from PehJeshuah I don't know what magazines you have been reading but my bible states this is how God sees me: (I'm gonna go with what God says) How long is never? Hebrews 13:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. 6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. Test it out then, and after that, be thrown into the everlasting fire on the last day. I told you what is true and you did not believe, so you did choose it yourself, not me. Days to come will tell you the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah hmmm let's see.....test if you lie or Gods Word lies......I'm gonna go with You are lying...lol |
| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/26/2012 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! You have nothing worthwile to say or do except the posting of things that other people made and that have no relevance whatsoever to is being discussed! God said to me about you, Let him go and he will meet what he chose! God has turned His back on you, so go wherever you like, but there will be no God for you since you chose your evil way! Greetings from PehJeshuah I don't know what magazines you have been reading but my bible states this is how God sees me: (I'm gonna go with what God says) How long is never? Hebrews 13:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. 6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. Test it out then, and after that, be thrown into the everlasting fire on the last day. I told you what is true and you did not believe, so you did choose it yourself, not me. Days to come will tell you the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah Devils also quote scriptures, but they fear nevertheless, knowing the voice speaking to them, but deceived people are 7 times worse, blind and dead seven times! Greetings from PehJeshuah |
| waterman User ID: 26724077 12/26/2012 08:05 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: PehJeshuah 30738299 You have nothing worthwile to say or do except the posting of things that other people made and that have no relevance whatsoever to is being discussed! God said to me about you, Let him go and he will meet what he chose! God has turned His back on you, so go wherever you like, but there will be no God for you since you chose your evil way! Greetings from PehJeshuah I don't know what magazines you have been reading but my bible states this is how God sees me: (I'm gonna go with what God says) How long is never? Hebrews 13:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. 6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. Test it out then, and after that, be thrown into the everlasting fire on the last day. I told you what is true and you did not believe, so you did choose it yourself, not me. Days to come will tell you the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah Devils also quote scriptures, but they fear nevertheless, knowing the voice speaking to them, but deceived people are 7 times worse, blind and dead seven times! Greetings from PehJeshuah Pj if my only hope of learning the grace saving salvation Jesus Christ offers came from what you said...this is what I would know about Jesus.......Peh thinks he is the witness of God. Peh think mens fate is in his hands. Peh thinks, this and Peh thinks that about himself...and that is all anyone is learing from you. Nothing about Jesus at all...Stop talking about yourself and talk about Jesus. Jesus is the only one that can save anybody, your nothing. |
| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/26/2012 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: waterman I don't know what magazines you have been reading but my bible states this is how God sees me: (I'm gonna go with what God says) How long is never? Hebrews 13:5-6 King James Version (KJV) 5 Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. 6 So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me. Test it out then, and after that, be thrown into the everlasting fire on the last day. I told you what is true and you did not believe, so you did choose it yourself, not me. Days to come will tell you the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah Devils also quote scriptures, but they fear nevertheless, knowing the voice speaking to them, but deceived people are 7 times worse, blind and dead seven times! Greetings from PehJeshuah Pj if my only hope of learning the grace saving salvation Jesus Christ offers came from what you said...this is what I would know about Jesus.......Peh thinks he is the witness of God. Peh think mens fate is in his hands. Peh thinks, this and Peh thinks that about himself...and that is all anyone is learing from you. Nothing about Jesus at all...Stop talking about yourself and talk about Jesus. Jesus is the only one that can save anybody, your nothing. Stop being empty and stupid, I have posted my testimony here on GLP many times, which I have called "Baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel", so when you read it you will see that it is exactly Jesus Christ who is the core of my testimony. Therefore, stop being childish and stupid, ignorant and confused, for you need not any longer since it is indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3 who speaks to you! Take it or leave, but still it is the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah God's brand that turned into a seraph for the sake of those who seek God in sincerity! |
| waterman User ID: 26724077 12/26/2012 08:13 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: PehJeshuah 30738299 Test it out then, and after that, be thrown into the everlasting fire on the last day. I told you what is true and you did not believe, so you did choose it yourself, not me. Days to come will tell you the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah Devils also quote scriptures, but they fear nevertheless, knowing the voice speaking to them, but deceived people are 7 times worse, blind and dead seven times! Greetings from PehJeshuah Pj if my only hope of learning the grace saving salvation Jesus Christ offers came from what you said...this is what I would know about Jesus.......Peh thinks he is the witness of God. Peh think mens fate is in his hands. Peh thinks, this and Peh thinks that about himself...and that is all anyone is learing from you. Nothing about Jesus at all...Stop talking about yourself and talk about Jesus. Jesus is the only one that can save anybody, your nothing. Stop being empty and stupid, I have posted my testimony here on GLP many times, which I have called "Baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel", so when you read it you will see that it is exactly Jesus Christ who is the core of my testimony. Therefore, stop being childish and stupid, ignorant and confused, for you need not any longer since it is indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3 who speaks to you! Take it or leave, but still it is the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah God's brand that turned into a seraph for the sake of those who seek God in sincerity! Your Jesus message must have got lost in the clutter of all the talk of you thinking your somebody the world needs to fall down and beg for forgiveness for salvation to be possible...lol |
| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/27/2012 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: PehJeshuah 30738299 Devils also quote scriptures, but they fear nevertheless, knowing the voice speaking to them, but deceived people are 7 times worse, blind and dead seven times! Greetings from PehJeshuah Pj if my only hope of learning the grace saving salvation Jesus Christ offers came from what you said...this is what I would know about Jesus.......Peh thinks he is the witness of God. Peh think mens fate is in his hands. Peh thinks, this and Peh thinks that about himself...and that is all anyone is learing from you. Nothing about Jesus at all...Stop talking about yourself and talk about Jesus. Jesus is the only one that can save anybody, your nothing. Stop being empty and stupid, I have posted my testimony here on GLP many times, which I have called "Baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel", so when you read it you will see that it is exactly Jesus Christ who is the core of my testimony. Therefore, stop being childish and stupid, ignorant and confused, for you need not any longer since it is indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3 who speaks to you! Take it or leave, but still it is the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah God's brand that turned into a seraph for the sake of those who seek God in sincerity! Your Jesus message must have got lost in the clutter of all the talk of you thinking your somebody the world needs to fall down and beg for forgiveness for salvation to be possible...lol ... Quoting: PehJeshuah 30738299 Devils also quote scriptures, but they fear nevertheless, knowing the voice speaking to them, but deceived people are 7 times worse, blind and dead seven times! Greetings from PehJeshuah Pj if my only hope of learning the grace saving salvation Jesus Christ offers came from what you said...this is what I would know about Jesus.......Peh thinks he is the witness of God. Peh think mens fate is in his hands. Peh thinks, this and Peh thinks that about himself...and that is all anyone is learing from you. Nothing about Jesus at all...Stop talking about yourself and talk about Jesus. Jesus is the only one that can save anybody, your nothing. Stop being empty and stupid, I have posted my testimony here on GLP many times, which I have called "Baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel", so when you read it you will see that it is exactly Jesus Christ who is the core of my testimony. Therefore, stop being childish and stupid, ignorant and confused, for you need not any longer since it is indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3 who speaks to you! Take it or leave, but still it is the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah God's brand that turned into a seraph for the sake of those who seek God in sincerity! Your Jesus message must have got lost in the clutter of all the talk of you thinking your somebody the world needs to fall down and beg for forgiveness for salvation to be possible...lol Lies and twistings will not rescue you, so go on, you son of the Devil! Greetings from PehJeshuah |
| waterman User ID: 26724077 12/27/2012 06:09 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: waterman Pj if my only hope of learning the grace saving salvation Jesus Christ offers came from what you said...this is what I would know about Jesus.......Peh thinks he is the witness of God. Peh think mens fate is in his hands. Peh thinks, this and Peh thinks that about himself...and that is all anyone is learing from you. Nothing about Jesus at all...Stop talking about yourself and talk about Jesus. Jesus is the only one that can save anybody, your nothing. Stop being empty and stupid, I have posted my testimony here on GLP many times, which I have called "Baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel", so when you read it you will see that it is exactly Jesus Christ who is the core of my testimony. Therefore, stop being childish and stupid, ignorant and confused, for you need not any longer since it is indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3 who speaks to you! Take it or leave, but still it is the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah God's brand that turned into a seraph for the sake of those who seek God in sincerity! Your Jesus message must have got lost in the clutter of all the talk of you thinking your somebody the world needs to fall down and beg for forgiveness for salvation to be possible...lol ... Quoting: waterman Pj if my only hope of learning the grace saving salvation Jesus Christ offers came from what you said...this is what I would know about Jesus.......Peh thinks he is the witness of God. Peh think mens fate is in his hands. Peh thinks, this and Peh thinks that about himself...and that is all anyone is learing from you. Nothing about Jesus at all...Stop talking about yourself and talk about Jesus. Jesus is the only one that can save anybody, your nothing. Stop being empty and stupid, I have posted my testimony here on GLP many times, which I have called "Baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel", so when you read it you will see that it is exactly Jesus Christ who is the core of my testimony. Therefore, stop being childish and stupid, ignorant and confused, for you need not any longer since it is indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3 who speaks to you! Take it or leave, but still it is the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah God's brand that turned into a seraph for the sake of those who seek God in sincerity! Your Jesus message must have got lost in the clutter of all the talk of you thinking your somebody the world needs to fall down and beg for forgiveness for salvation to be possible...lol Lies and twistings will not rescue you, so go on, you son of the Devil! Greetings from PehJeshuah Great message about Jesus Peh...your saving millions, I'll bet Jesus is beaming with pride for you ........get on track, Jesus is the message, not you |
| PehJeshuah User ID: 30738299 12/27/2012 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: waterman Pj if my only hope of learning the grace saving salvation Jesus Christ offers came from what you said...this is what I would know about Jesus.......Peh thinks he is the witness of God. Peh think mens fate is in his hands. Peh thinks, this and Peh thinks that about himself...and that is all anyone is learing from you. Nothing about Jesus at all...Stop talking about yourself and talk about Jesus. Jesus is the only one that can save anybody, your nothing. Stop being empty and stupid, I have posted my testimony here on GLP many times, which I have called "Baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel", so when you read it you will see that it is exactly Jesus Christ who is the core of my testimony. Therefore, stop being childish and stupid, ignorant and confused, for you need not any longer since it is indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3 who speaks to you! Take it or leave, but still it is the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah God's brand that turned into a seraph for the sake of those who seek God in sincerity! Your Jesus message must have got lost in the clutter of all the talk of you thinking your somebody the world needs to fall down and beg for forgiveness for salvation to be possible...lol ... Quoting: waterman Pj if my only hope of learning the grace saving salvation Jesus Christ offers came from what you said...this is what I would know about Jesus.......Peh thinks he is the witness of God. Peh think mens fate is in his hands. Peh thinks, this and Peh thinks that about himself...and that is all anyone is learing from you. Nothing about Jesus at all...Stop talking about yourself and talk about Jesus. Jesus is the only one that can save anybody, your nothing. Stop being empty and stupid, I have posted my testimony here on GLP many times, which I have called "Baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel", so when you read it you will see that it is exactly Jesus Christ who is the core of my testimony. Therefore, stop being childish and stupid, ignorant and confused, for you need not any longer since it is indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3 who speaks to you! Take it or leave, but still it is the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah God's brand that turned into a seraph for the sake of those who seek God in sincerity! Your Jesus message must have got lost in the clutter of all the talk of you thinking your somebody the world needs to fall down and beg for forgiveness for salvation to be possible...lol Lies and twistings will not rescue you, so go on, you son of the Devil! Greetings from PehJeshuah There is no way for you to deny or annul my power of being what I tell you, namely that my voice is the truth that has come to defeat falsehood, first in you and then throughout the world! Do not test my words without first giving you over to God Almighty to show you the true way, for, otherwise, you will be very unlucky indeed! I am not false, so if you are not false also, then give Scripture the right to correct you! Greetings from PehJeshuah |
| waterman User ID: 26724077 12/27/2012 06:20 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ! ... Quoting: PehJeshuah 30738299 Stop being empty and stupid, I have posted my testimony here on GLP many times, which I have called "Baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel", so when you read it you will see that it is exactly Jesus Christ who is the core of my testimony. Therefore, stop being childish and stupid, ignorant and confused, for you need not any longer since it is indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3 who speaks to you! Take it or leave, but still it is the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah God's brand that turned into a seraph for the sake of those who seek God in sincerity! Your Jesus message must have got lost in the clutter of all the talk of you thinking your somebody the world needs to fall down and beg for forgiveness for salvation to be possible...lol ... Quoting: PehJeshuah 30738299 Stop being empty and stupid, I have posted my testimony here on GLP many times, which I have called "Baptism in the light of the everlasting gospel", so when you read it you will see that it is exactly Jesus Christ who is the core of my testimony. Therefore, stop being childish and stupid, ignorant and confused, for you need not any longer since it is indeed the true witness of God after Rev 11:3 who speaks to you! Take it or leave, but still it is the truth! Greetings from PehJeshuah God's brand that turned into a seraph for the sake of those who seek God in sincerity! Your Jesus message must have got lost in the clutter of all the talk of you thinking your somebody the world needs to fall down and beg for forgiveness for salvation to be possible...lol Lies and twistings will not rescue you, so go on, you son of the Devil! Greetings from PehJeshuah There is no way for you to deny or annul my power of being what I tell you, namely that my voice is the truth that has come to defeat falsehood, first in you and then throughout the world! Do not test my words without first giving you over to God Almighty to show you the true way, for, otherwise, you will be very unlucky indeed! I am not false, so if you are not false also, then give Scripture the right to correct you! Greetings from PehJeshuah Your just confused on what the mission of the 2 witnesses are...the mission of the two witnesses is not to shout from the rooftops ...Here we are Here we are. The mission of the 2 witnesses is to proclaim and glorify Jesus just as Jesus proclaimed and glorified his Father and 2nd to join the Christian and Jew so the whole house of Israel can be one again fulfilling Ezekiel 37 |