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I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

 
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You false teachers and preachers,

Stop telling lies about God's true witnesses of Rev 11:3, for you do not know their secret.

What you have done and do is telling people such exaggerated stories about them that have no foundation in reality or Scripture, f.eks. that they will kill people with literal fire from out of their mouth and that they will work during the great tribulation.

All that are lies from the devil himself, meant to deceive people in order that they know not the true voice of God's servants, when it is heard.

I tell you the truth, you people who seek the truth, I speak now the truth here on GLP, and God has got no other truth in this context than what I tell you here.

May God open your eyes to see and live!

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Dear people, you who seek the Lord,

Here is one more liar speaking as though it were the truth. But the voice is from the devil in contradicting the Lord's words that say that there will be no resurrection until the very last day.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Who are these Satanic people who step forward with their lies, daring to contradict Jesus Christ? To hell with them, for God's true witness now oppose them for the sake of God's elect, those who gave themselves over in the hand of the righteous God!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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Dear people, you who seek the Lord,

Here is one more liar speaking as though it were the truth. But the voice is from the devil in contradicting the Lord's words that say that there will be no resurrection until the very last day.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Who are these Satanic people who step forward with their lies, daring to contradict Jesus Christ? To hell with them, for God's true witness now oppose them for the sake of God's elect, those who gave themselves over in the hand of the righteous God!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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When I say such things as this I do so with firm foundation in Scripture, and that means that those who make these stupid Youtube messages cannot defend their so-called whatever revelations without being totally defeated by me, if they try, since I am indeed God's true witness against the antichristian lies that now rule the world.

I have come to debunk them all!!! Those false teachers often say, Praise the Lord, though in falsehood, so now I revert their words against them and say, Praise the Lord that He now will severely reveal and punish these skunks of Satan!!!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers.

And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice.

And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you.

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...and I would say evil thought
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Why do you say that you are cryptic? Are you or do you think you are cryptic to God?

There has been a man from Austria here who claims to be psychic or someone who knows more than most people do. He has been as stupid as to try highbrow me, God's true witness, and thereby proving himself to be just stupid. It is foretold in Scripture that no devil can beat God's cherubim, but those idiots do not yet realize it! God has chosen this way in order to humiliate them like He will their father!

Why should we pay any attention to such people?

If they do know more things, such as are of no avail, than you and I do, who do honestly seek God's truth, then their knowing more is just ridiculouus and from from the devil! We are not that easily impressed, for we are lead by God Almighty and have seen His beauty as much as we can in this life.

The devil always tries to uprate his whatever while a servant of God always will uprate God in His goodness while telling what he himself or herself is, just a low servatn of that incredible love that God is in our Saviour Jesus Christ.

Greetings to you who seek the Lord,
May He help you,
greetings from me,
just His witness of Rev 12:3
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Dear people, you who seek the Lord,

Here is one more liar speaking as though it were the truth. But the voice is from the devil in contradicting the Lord's words that say that there will be no resurrection until the very last day.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Who are these Satanic people who step forward with their lies, daring to contradict Jesus Christ? To hell with them, for God's true witness now oppose them for the sake of God's elect, those who gave themselves over in the hand of the righteous God!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 41802464


When I say such things as this I do so with firm foundation in Scripture, and that means that those who make these stupid Youtube messages cannot defend their so-called whatever revelations without being totally defeated by me, if they try, since I am indeed God's true witness against the antichristian lies that now rule the world.

I have come to debunk them all!!! Those false teachers often say, Praise the Lord, though in falsehood, so now I revert their words against them and say, Praise the Lord that He now will severely reveal and punish these skunks of Satan!!!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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Nobody cares what an insignificant weasel like you thinks. People will actually listen to God's two real witnesses, not some vain self-obsessed buffoon like you.
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Dear people, you who seek the Lord,

Here is one more liar speaking as though it were the truth. But the voice is from the devil in contradicting the Lord's words that say that there will be no resurrection until the very last day.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Who are these Satanic people who step forward with their lies, daring to contradict Jesus Christ? To hell with them, for God's true witness now oppose them for the sake of God's elect, those who gave themselves over in the hand of the righteous God!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 41802464


When I say such things as this I do so with firm foundation in Scripture, and that means that those who make these stupid Youtube messages cannot defend their so-called whatever revelations without being totally defeated by me, if they try, since I am indeed God's true witness against the antichristian lies that now rule the world.

I have come to debunk them all!!! Those false teachers often say, Praise the Lord, though in falsehood, so now I revert their words against them and say, Praise the Lord that He now will severely reveal and punish these skunks of Satan!!!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 41802464


Nobody cares what an insignificant weasel like you thinks. People will actually listen to God's two real witnesses, not some vain self-obsessed buffoon like you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41811028


Have you studied what I wrote on Psalm 75 and Zech 6 without taking anything out of context as I have unrighfully been criticized of doing?

So, now you feel confident to attack me, hoping to be yourself in a better position than those other devils were who fought me and lost?

You will also lose, whoever you are, you devil, for those who do as you think you can do, have a curse upon their heads from Scripture and God Almighty, since they speak against God's true witnesses.

That is exactly what the fire means means, if you know what I talk about. If not, then go to the place where you came for, or otherwise you will die a bitter but endless death!

I know your falsehood but you do not know my TRUTH! Take it or leave it, but I am who I am.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
God's witness of Rev 11:3
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Dear people, you who seek the Lord,

Here is one more liar speaking as though it were the truth. But the voice is from the devil in contradicting the Lord's words that say that there will be no resurrection until the very last day.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Who are these Satanic people who step forward with their lies, daring to contradict Jesus Christ? To hell with them, for God's true witness now oppose them for the sake of God's elect, those who gave themselves over in the hand of the righteous God!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 41802464


When I say such things as this I do so with firm foundation in Scripture, and that means that those who make these stupid Youtube messages cannot defend their so-called whatever revelations without being totally defeated by me, if they try, since I am indeed God's true witness against the antichristian lies that now rule the world.

I have come to debunk them all!!! Those false teachers often say, Praise the Lord, though in falsehood, so now I revert their words against them and say, Praise the Lord that He now will severely reveal and punish these skunks of Satan!!!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 41802464


Nobody cares what an insignificant weasel like you thinks. People will actually listen to God's two real witnesses, not some vain self-obsessed buffoon like you.
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Have you studied what I wrote on Psalm 75 and Zech 6 without taking anything out of context as I have unrighfully been criticized of doing?

So, now you feel confident to attack me, hoping to be yourself in a better position than those other devils were who fought me and lost?

You will also lose, whoever you are, you devil, for those who do as you think you can do, have a curse upon their heads from Scripture and God Almighty, since they speak against God's true witnesses. ]
That is exactly what the fire means means, if you know what I talk about. If not, then go to the place where you came from, or otherwise you will die a bitter but endless death!

I know your falsehood but you do not know my TRUTH! Take it or leave it, but I am who I am.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
God's witness of Rev 11:3
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Dear people, you who seek the Lord,

Here is one more liar speaking as though it were the truth. But the voice is from the devil in contradicting the Lord's words that say that there will be no resurrection until the very last day.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Who are these Satanic people who step forward with their lies, daring to contradict Jesus Christ? To hell with them, for God's true witness now oppose them for the sake of God's elect, those who gave themselves over in the hand of the righteous God!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 41802464


When I say such things as this I do so with firm foundation in Scripture, and that means that those who make these stupid Youtube messages cannot defend their so-called whatever revelations without being totally defeated by me, if they try, since I am indeed God's true witness against the antichristian lies that now rule the world.

I have come to debunk them all!!! Those false teachers often say, Praise the Lord, though in falsehood, so now I revert their words against them and say, Praise the Lord that He now will severely reveal and punish these skunks of Satan!!!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 41802464


Nobody cares what an insignificant weasel like you thinks. People will actually listen to God's two real witnesses, not some vain self-obsessed buffoon like you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41811028


Have you studied what I wrote on Psalm 75 and Zech 6 without taking anything out of context as I have unrighfully been criticized of doing?

So, now you feel confident to attack me, hoping to be yourself in a better position than those other devils were who fought me and lost?

You will also lose, whoever you are, you devil, for those who do as you think you can do, have a curse upon their heads from Scripture and God Almighty, since they speak against God's true witnesses.

That is exactly what the fire means means, if you know what I talk about. If not, then go to the place where you came for, or otherwise you will die a bitter but endless death!

I know your falsehood but you do not know my TRUTH! Take it or leave it, but I am who I am.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
God's witness of Rev 11:3
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Go to hell where you belong demon scum!!!
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When I say such things as this I do so with firm foundation in Scripture, and that means that those who make these stupid Youtube messages cannot defend their so-called whatever revelations without being totally defeated by me, if they try, since I am indeed God's true witness against the antichristian lies that now rule the world.

I have come to debunk them all!!! Those false teachers often say, Praise the Lord, though in falsehood, so now I revert their words against them and say, Praise the Lord that He now will severely reveal and punish these skunks of Satan!!!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 41802464


Nobody cares what an insignificant weasel like you thinks. People will actually listen to God's two real witnesses, not some vain self-obsessed buffoon like you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41811028


Have you studied what I wrote on Psalm 75 and Zech 6 without taking anything out of context as I have unrighfully been criticized of doing?

So, now you feel confident to attack me, hoping to be yourself in a better position than those other devils were who fought me and lost?

You will also lose, whoever you are, you devil, for those who do as you think you can do, have a curse upon their heads from Scripture and God Almighty, since they speak against God's true witnesses.

That is exactly what the fire means means, if you know what I talk about. If not, then go to the place where you came for, or otherwise you will die a bitter but endless death!

I know your falsehood but you do not know my TRUTH! Take it or leave it, but I am who I am.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
God's witness of Rev 11:3
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Go to hell where you belong demon scum!!!
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Same old Ireland who was debunked because you said that the Medes and Persians were the horses going to the north country in Zech 6:8 while the Scripture itself testified that the the horses were the spirits of the heavens and you therefore just a liar and twister of Scripture.

What a shame to you, so welcome to get it thrust down your dishonest throat!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
The true witness of God, especially in confrontation with you, you devils of unrighteousness!
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Nobody cares what an insignificant weasel like you thinks. People will actually listen to God's two real witnesses, not some vain self-obsessed buffoon like you.
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Have you studied what I wrote on Psalm 75 and Zech 6 without taking anything out of context as I have unrighfully been criticized of doing?

So, now you feel confident to attack me, hoping to be yourself in a better position than those other devils were who fought me and lost?

You will also lose, whoever you are, you devil, for those who do as you think you can do, have a curse upon their heads from Scripture and God Almighty, since they speak against God's true witnesses.

That is exactly what the fire means means, if you know what I talk about. If not, then go to the place where you came for, or otherwise you will die a bitter but endless death!

I know your falsehood but you do not know my TRUTH! Take it or leave it, but I am who I am.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
God's witness of Rev 11:3
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 41802464


Go to hell where you belong demon scum!!!
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Same old Ireland who was debunked because you said that the Medes and Persians were the horses going to the north country in Zech 6:8 while the Scripture itself testified that the the horses were the spirits of the heavens and you therefore just a liar and twister of Scripture.

What a shame to you, so welcome to get it thrust down your dishonest throat!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
The true witness of God, especially in confrontation with you, you devils of unrighteousness!
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Repent or burn you evil satanic maggot. I will not bother refuting your lies either like you want me to. You are not worth the time or effort.
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You have already been defeated, refuted, and exposed by me for contradicting the Messiah on a Salvation issue, namely water baptism by saying it is now annulled when the Messiah said no man will enter into the Kingdom of God without first being baptized by water and spirit. You lose!!! Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
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Have you studied what I wrote on Psalm 75 and Zech 6 without taking anything out of context as I have unrighfully been criticized of doing?

So, now you feel confident to attack me, hoping to be yourself in a better position than those other devils were who fought me and lost?

You will also lose, whoever you are, you devil, for those who do as you think you can do, have a curse upon their heads from Scripture and God Almighty, since they speak against God's true witnesses.

That is exactly what the fire means means, if you know what I talk about. If not, then go to the place where you came for, or otherwise you will die a bitter but endless death!

I know your falsehood but you do not know my TRUTH! Take it or leave it, but I am who I am.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
God's witness of Rev 11:3
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Go to hell where you belong demon scum!!!
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Same old Ireland who was debunked because you said that the Medes and Persians were the horses going to the north country in Zech 6:8 while the Scripture itself testified that the the horses were the spirits of the heavens and you therefore just a liar and twister of Scripture.

What a shame to you, so welcome to get it thrust down your dishonest throat!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
The true witness of God, especially in confrontation with you, you devils of unrighteousness!
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Repent or burn you evil satanic maggot. I will not bother refuting your lies either like you want me to. You are not worth the time or effort.
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Wow, you impress me, for the apostles of Jesus were always revealing the truth and refuting the lies of Satan whereas you are not bothering about youself having been refuted nor that you have no competence or power to fight me, the true witness of God.

What a shame you are!

Greetings from
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The true witness of God, totally invincible to you, you dastard!
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How is the word spelled in Hebrew ?
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Sorry, dear brother, I cannot write Hebrew here. I could very well do it if we were in the same room.

May God Almighty bless you, for I feel you are a good person. :)

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Mem-Nun

Water and fish

:)
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That I did not know, so please, explain more. :)

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My friend, I would research the spelling of the word " beast " Hebrew, and it's forms of the letter " Nun ".

Start with the first letter i the word, " Tav ", and look carefully at what a " Tav " was in ancient times.

Letter by letter, the construction of the word should reveal some things.

This all pertains to what is written in the Book of Exodus and meshes seamlessly with what is written by John in the Greek NT narrative.

~The setting of the precedence of the Hebrew Lunar calendar.

~The Shemhamphorasch , the source of the abbreviation " YHWH ", which is specifically the three verse of Exodus 14:19-21

~ The Ark of the Covenant, and it's dimensions utilizing the Golden Proportion ratio.

You'll see that the 2 languages, the Lunar calendar, the numbers used, and the meanings of the words also mesh the things stated in the Book of Exodus seamlessly with the Book of Revelation.

You know the Hebrew Lunar Calendar is used because the Earth and the Moon are in the Golden Proportion relationship defined by the Golden Triangle defined with Pythagorean formula ?

[link to www.goldennumber.net]

I'll be back to check the thread and see if you are interested in knowing more.
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Go to hell where you belong demon scum!!!
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Same old Ireland who was debunked because you said that the Medes and Persians were the horses going to the north country in Zech 6:8 while the Scripture itself testified that the the horses were the spirits of the heavens and you therefore just a liar and twister of Scripture.

What a shame to you, so welcome to get it thrust down your dishonest throat!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
The true witness of God, especially in confrontation with you, you devils of unrighteousness!
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 41802464


Repent or burn you evil satanic maggot. I will not bother refuting your lies either like you want me to. You are not worth the time or effort.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41811028


Wow, you impress me, for the apostles of Jesus were always revealing the truth and refuting the lies of Satan whereas you are not bothering about youself having been refuted nor that you have no competence or power to fight me, the true witness of God.

What a shame you are!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
The true witness of God, totally invincible to you, you dastard!
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Really? lmaonorespect

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. Matthew 7:6

Another wonderful fail by the biblicaly ignorant imbecile. They are the Messiah's own words, I will follow them rather than the words of an insignificant false teacher/prophet. You are too easy to expose. lmao

Thanks for playing.
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You have already been defeated, refuted, and exposed by me for contradicting the Messiah on a Salvation issue, namely water baptism by saying it is now annulled when the Messiah said no man will enter into the Kingdom of God without first being baptized by water and spirit. You lose!!! Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
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Ireland,

As someone who reads this thread, please explain why you have not answered PJ's post to you a few days back.

"Good try, you worm of Satan.

I will ask you about the malefactor on the cross about whom we read in Luke 23:39, who repented and but was not baptized. Did he go to the Paradise or to hell because he lacked baptism by water?

If he went to the Paradise without water baptism, which Jesus said he would, why should it not be possible also for other believers to go to the Paradise without water baptism?

Have you got any good answer to that? Does God divide people into those who are baptized with water and those who are not, the latter group going to hell?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah"

I look forward to your response.

RockyMtnLady
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You have already been defeated, refuted, and exposed by me for contradicting the Messiah on a Salvation issue, namely water baptism by saying it is now annulled when the Messiah said no man will enter into the Kingdom of God without first being baptized by water and spirit. You lose!!! Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
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Ireland,

As someone who reads this thread, please explain why you have not answered PJ's post to you a few days back.

"Good try, you worm of Satan.

I will ask you about the malefactor on the cross about whom we read in Luke 23:39, who repented and but was not baptized. Did he go to the Paradise or to hell because he lacked baptism by water?

If he went to the Paradise without water baptism, which Jesus said he would, why should it not be possible also for other believers to go to the Paradise without water baptism?

Have you got any good answer to that? Does God divide people into those who are baptized with water and those who are not, the latter group going to hell?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah"

I look forward to your response.

RockyMtnLady
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Well because when I refute one bullshit post of his, he will just go onto another and I don't like going around in circles with him. It is a futile effort. He likes to because he is an egocentric git who gets off on trying to show how knowledgeable he is on scripture which is quite funny considering his ignorance on biblical matters. And in regards to the luke scripture, how do we know he was not already baptized before he was put up on that crucifix. We don't. Also, the book of Luke was not written by an inspired Apostle and I believe that story is not mentioned in the Apostolic gospels so I would be wary of it. Also, it still does not take away from my earlier point from John from the Messiah saying unless you are baptized with water, you will not enter into the Kingdom of God.
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You have already been defeated, refuted, and exposed by me for contradicting the Messiah on a Salvation issue, namely water baptism by saying it is now annulled when the Messiah said no man will enter into the Kingdom of God without first being baptized by water and spirit. You lose!!! Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
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Ireland,

As someone who reads this thread, please explain why you have not answered PJ's post to you a few days back.

"Good try, you worm of Satan.

I will ask you about the malefactor on the cross about whom we read in Luke 23:39, who repented and but was not baptized. Did he go to the Paradise or to hell because he lacked baptism by water?

If he went to the Paradise without water baptism, which Jesus said he would, why should it not be possible also for other believers to go to the Paradise without water baptism?

Have you got any good answer to that? Does God divide people into those who are baptized with water and those who are not, the latter group going to hell?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah"

I look forward to your response.

RockyMtnLady
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Well because when I refute one bullshit post of his, he will just go onto another and I don't like going around in circles with him. It is a futile effort. He likes to because he is an egocentric git who gets off on trying to show how knowledgeable he is on scripture which is quite funny considering his ignorance on biblical matters. And in regards to the luke scripture, how do we know he was not already baptized before he was put up on that crucifix. We don't. Also, the book of Luke was not written by an inspired Apostle and I believe that story is not mentioned in the Apostolic gospels so I would be wary of it. Also, it still does not take away from my earlier point from John from the Messiah saying unless you are baptized with water, you will not enter into the Kingdom of God.
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"And in regards to the luke scripture, how do we know he was not already baptized before he was put up on that crucifix."

Because I have Faith that everything that was written in Holy Scripture is for a very specific purpose.....inclusions and exclusions. I believe if natural (literal) water baptism is necessary for salvation, then Christ would have said "you must be baptized first" or God would have inspired Luke to write that this man had received natural water baptism earlier in his Life. Instead, Jesus said:

"Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." (Luke 23:43)

Just my two cents.

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Ireland,

As someone who reads this thread, please explain why you have not answered PJ's post to you a few days back.

"Good try, you worm of Satan.

I will ask you about the malefactor on the cross about whom we read in Luke 23:39, who repented and but was not baptized. Did he go to the Paradise or to hell because he lacked baptism by water?

If he went to the Paradise without water baptism, which Jesus said he would, why should it not be possible also for other believers to go to the Paradise without water baptism?

Have you got any good answer to that? Does God divide people into those who are baptized with water and those who are not, the latter group going to hell?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah"

I look forward to your response.

RockyMtnLady
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Well because when I refute one bullshit post of his, he will just go onto another and I don't like going around in circles with him. It is a futile effort. He likes to because he is an egocentric git who gets off on trying to show how knowledgeable he is on scripture which is quite funny considering his ignorance on biblical matters. And in regards to the luke scripture, how do we know he was not already baptized before he was put up on that crucifix. We don't. Also, the book of Luke was not written by an inspired Apostle and I believe that story is not mentioned in the Apostolic gospels so I would be wary of it. Also, it still does not take away from my earlier point from John from the Messiah saying unless you are baptized with water, you will not enter into the Kingdom of God.
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"And in regards to the luke scripture, how do we know he was not already baptized before he was put up on that crucifix."

Because I have Faith that everything that was written in Holy Scripture is for a very specific purpose.....inclusions and exclusions. I believe if natural (literal) water baptism is necessary for salvation, then Christ would have said "you must be baptized first" or God would have inspired Luke to write that this man had received natural water baptism earlier in his Life. Instead, Jesus said:

"Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." (Luke 23:43)

Just my two cents.

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Well in all fairness, that is just your own opinion and does not refute my earlier points. And Christ did say we must be baptized with water. Does it matter if we are baptized with water first or spirit first? No, just that we are baptized with both water and spirit if we want to enter the Kingdom of God. If you reject this and deny it, you are calling the Messiah a liar.

“There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again” (John 3:1-7).
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Ireland,

As someone who reads this thread, please explain why you have not answered PJ's post to you a few days back.

"Good try, you worm of Satan.

I will ask you about the malefactor on the cross about whom we read in Luke 23:39, who repented and but was not baptized. Did he go to the Paradise or to hell because he lacked baptism by water?

If he went to the Paradise without water baptism, which Jesus said he would, why should it not be possible also for other believers to go to the Paradise without water baptism?

Have you got any good answer to that? Does God divide people into those who are baptized with water and those who are not, the latter group going to hell?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah"

I look forward to your response.

RockyMtnLady
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Well because when I refute one bullshit post of his, he will just go onto another and I don't like going around in circles with him. It is a futile effort. He likes to because he is an egocentric git who gets off on trying to show how knowledgeable he is on scripture which is quite funny considering his ignorance on biblical matters. And in regards to the luke scripture, how do we know he was not already baptized before he was put up on that crucifix. We don't. Also, the book of Luke was not written by an inspired Apostle and I believe that story is not mentioned in the Apostolic gospels so I would be wary of it. Also, it still does not take away from my earlier point from John from the Messiah saying unless you are baptized with water, you will not enter into the Kingdom of God.
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"And in regards to the luke scripture, how do we know he was not already baptized before he was put up on that crucifix."

Because I have Faith that everything that was written in Holy Scripture is for a very specific purpose.....inclusions and exclusions. I believe if natural (literal) water baptism is necessary for salvation, then Christ would have said "you must be baptized first" or God would have inspired Luke to write that this man had received natural water baptism earlier in his Life. Instead, Jesus said:

"Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." (Luke 23:43)

Just my two cents.

RockyMtnLady
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Well in all fairness, that is just your own opinion and does not refute my earlier points. And Christ did say we must be baptized with water. Does it matter if we are baptized with water first or spirit first? No, just that we are baptized with both water and spirit if we want to enter the Kingdom of God. If you reject this and deny it, you are calling the Messiah a liar.

“There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again” (John 3:1-7).
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I know the Scripture and I don't deny the truth. I just believe that this Scripture speaks to a spiritual cleansing.

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Well because when I refute one bullshit post of his, he will just go onto another and I don't like going around in circles with him. It is a futile effort. He likes to because he is an egocentric git who gets off on trying to show how knowledgeable he is on scripture which is quite funny considering his ignorance on biblical matters. And in regards to the luke scripture, how do we know he was not already baptized before he was put up on that crucifix. We don't. Also, the book of Luke was not written by an inspired Apostle and I believe that story is not mentioned in the Apostolic gospels so I would be wary of it. Also, it still does not take away from my earlier point from John from the Messiah saying unless you are baptized with water, you will not enter into the Kingdom of God.
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"And in regards to the luke scripture, how do we know he was not already baptized before he was put up on that crucifix."

Because I have Faith that everything that was written in Holy Scripture is for a very specific purpose.....inclusions and exclusions. I believe if natural (literal) water baptism is necessary for salvation, then Christ would have said "you must be baptized first" or God would have inspired Luke to write that this man had received natural water baptism earlier in his Life. Instead, Jesus said:

"Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." (Luke 23:43)

Just my two cents.

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Well in all fairness, that is just your own opinion and does not refute my earlier points. And Christ did say we must be baptized with water. Does it matter if we are baptized with water first or spirit first? No, just that we are baptized with both water and spirit if we want to enter the Kingdom of God. If you reject this and deny it, you are calling the Messiah a liar.

“There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again” (John 3:1-7).
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I know the Scripture and I don't deny the truth. I just believe that this Scripture speaks to a spiritual cleansing.

RockyMtnLady
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A spiritual cleansing? But you said this in your last post,

"Because I have Faith that everything that was written in Holy Scripture is for a very specific purpose.....inclusions and exclusions. I believe if natural (literal) water baptism is necessary for salvation, then Christ would have said "you must be baptized first" or God would have inspired Luke to write that this man had received natural water baptism earlier in his Life."

Surely Yeshua would have said it was a 'spiritual cleansing'. But nowhere in scripture is water baptism referred to as a spiritual cleansing. It is your own interpretation and we are commanded this in Deuteronomy,

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Deuteronomy 4:2

Water baptism is always spoken about in the literal sense. True, in a way, it is a spiritual cleansing but that cleansing cannot happen without literal water.
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"And in regards to the luke scripture, how do we know he was not already baptized before he was put up on that crucifix."

Because I have Faith that everything that was written in Holy Scripture is for a very specific purpose.....inclusions and exclusions. I believe if natural (literal) water baptism is necessary for salvation, then Christ would have said "you must be baptized first" or God would have inspired Luke to write that this man had received natural water baptism earlier in his Life. Instead, Jesus said:

"Jesus answered him, "Truly I tell you, today you will be with me in paradise." (Luke 23:43)

Just my two cents.

RockyMtnLady
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Well in all fairness, that is just your own opinion and does not refute my earlier points. And Christ did say we must be baptized with water. Does it matter if we are baptized with water first or spirit first? No, just that we are baptized with both water and spirit if we want to enter the Kingdom of God. If you reject this and deny it, you are calling the Messiah a liar.

“There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again” (John 3:1-7).
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I know the Scripture and I don't deny the truth. I just believe that this Scripture speaks to a spiritual cleansing.

RockyMtnLady
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A spiritual cleansing? But you said this in your last post,

"Because I have Faith that everything that was written in Holy Scripture is for a very specific purpose.....inclusions and exclusions. I believe if natural (literal) water baptism is necessary for salvation, then Christ would have said "you must be baptized first" or God would have inspired Luke to write that this man had received natural water baptism earlier in his Life."

Surely Yeshua would have said it was a 'spiritual cleansing'. But nowhere in scripture is water baptism referred to as a spiritual cleansing. It is your own interpretation and we are commanded this in Deuteronomy,

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Deuteronomy 4:2

Water baptism is always spoken about in the literal sense. True, in a way, it is a spiritual cleansing but that cleansing cannot happen without literal water.
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I believe there are two interpretations of the Bible. One: Literal. The other: Spiritual. I believe God did this for a purpose. A specific purpose. That was so they that have not "ears to hear" (those children of the Anti-Christ) will never be able to understand the Spiritual meaning of Word thus, only God's servants or God's people can discern the Spiritual side of the Word. It is by God's grace alone that one is given these ears to hear.

That is just what has been deposited in my heart to believe. I don't care if you agree with it.

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Well in all fairness, that is just your own opinion and does not refute my earlier points. And Christ did say we must be baptized with water. Does it matter if we are baptized with water first or spirit first? No, just that we are baptized with both water and spirit if we want to enter the Kingdom of God. If you reject this and deny it, you are calling the Messiah a liar.

“There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again” (John 3:1-7).
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I know the Scripture and I don't deny the truth. I just believe that this Scripture speaks to a spiritual cleansing.

RockyMtnLady
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A spiritual cleansing? But you said this in your last post,

"Because I have Faith that everything that was written in Holy Scripture is for a very specific purpose.....inclusions and exclusions. I believe if natural (literal) water baptism is necessary for salvation, then Christ would have said "you must be baptized first" or God would have inspired Luke to write that this man had received natural water baptism earlier in his Life."

Surely Yeshua would have said it was a 'spiritual cleansing'. But nowhere in scripture is water baptism referred to as a spiritual cleansing. It is your own interpretation and we are commanded this in Deuteronomy,

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Deuteronomy 4:2

Water baptism is always spoken about in the literal sense. True, in a way, it is a spiritual cleansing but that cleansing cannot happen without literal water.
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I believe there are two interpretations of the Bible. One: Literal. The other: Spiritual. I believe God did this for a purpose. A specific purpose. That was so they that have not "ears to hear" (those children of the Anti-Christ) will never be able to understand the Spiritual meaning of Word thus, only God's servants or God's people can discern the Spiritual side of the Word. It is by God's grace alone that one is given these ears to hear.

That is just what has been deposited in my heart to believe. I don't care if you agree with it.

RockyMtnLady
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Yes, the bible is both literal and metaphorical in some parts but in no way does the bible say that water baptism is spiritual, not once. It was always spoken of in literal terms. Do you deny the Messiahs own words that one cannot enter the kingdom of God unless they have been baptized with water??? Because that is what it sounds like.
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I know the Scripture and I don't deny the truth. I just believe that this Scripture speaks to a spiritual cleansing.

RockyMtnLady
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A spiritual cleansing? But you said this in your last post,

"Because I have Faith that everything that was written in Holy Scripture is for a very specific purpose.....inclusions and exclusions. I believe if natural (literal) water baptism is necessary for salvation, then Christ would have said "you must be baptized first" or God would have inspired Luke to write that this man had received natural water baptism earlier in his Life."

Surely Yeshua would have said it was a 'spiritual cleansing'. But nowhere in scripture is water baptism referred to as a spiritual cleansing. It is your own interpretation and we are commanded this in Deuteronomy,

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Deuteronomy 4:2

Water baptism is always spoken about in the literal sense. True, in a way, it is a spiritual cleansing but that cleansing cannot happen without literal water.
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I believe there are two interpretations of the Bible. One: Literal. The other: Spiritual. I believe God did this for a purpose. A specific purpose. That was so they that have not "ears to hear" (those children of the Anti-Christ) will never be able to understand the Spiritual meaning of Word thus, only God's servants or God's people can discern the Spiritual side of the Word. It is by God's grace alone that one is given these ears to hear.

That is just what has been deposited in my heart to believe. I don't care if you agree with it.

RockyMtnLady
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Yes, the bible is both literal and metaphorical in some parts but in no way does the bible say that water baptism is spiritual, not once. It was always spoken of in literal terms. Do you deny the Messiahs own words that one cannot enter the kingdom of God unless they have been baptized with water??? Because that is what it sounds like.
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And if you do, you are a false teacher.
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I know the Scripture and I don't deny the truth. I just believe that this Scripture speaks to a spiritual cleansing.

RockyMtnLady
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A spiritual cleansing? But you said this in your last post,

"Because I have Faith that everything that was written in Holy Scripture is for a very specific purpose.....inclusions and exclusions. I believe if natural (literal) water baptism is necessary for salvation, then Christ would have said "you must be baptized first" or God would have inspired Luke to write that this man had received natural water baptism earlier in his Life."

Surely Yeshua would have said it was a 'spiritual cleansing'. But nowhere in scripture is water baptism referred to as a spiritual cleansing. It is your own interpretation and we are commanded this in Deuteronomy,

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Deuteronomy 4:2

Water baptism is always spoken about in the literal sense. True, in a way, it is a spiritual cleansing but that cleansing cannot happen without literal water.
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I believe there are two interpretations of the Bible. One: Literal. The other: Spiritual. I believe God did this for a purpose. A specific purpose. That was so they that have not "ears to hear" (those children of the Anti-Christ) will never be able to understand the Spiritual meaning of Word thus, only God's servants or God's people can discern the Spiritual side of the Word. It is by God's grace alone that one is given these ears to hear.

That is just what has been deposited in my heart to believe. I don't care if you agree with it.

RockyMtnLady
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Yes, the bible is both literal and metaphorical in some parts but in no way does the bible say that water baptism is spiritual, not once. It was always spoken of in literal terms. Do you deny the Messiahs own words that one cannot enter the kingdom of God unless they have been baptized with water??? Because that is what it sounds like.
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I believe in the Scripture and the Word of God. That this is the only truth. But do I believe that literal, natural water is a prerequisite to baptism, no, I don't believe that is what God intended in this Scripture.

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A spiritual cleansing? But you said this in your last post,

"Because I have Faith that everything that was written in Holy Scripture is for a very specific purpose.....inclusions and exclusions. I believe if natural (literal) water baptism is necessary for salvation, then Christ would have said "you must be baptized first" or God would have inspired Luke to write that this man had received natural water baptism earlier in his Life."

Surely Yeshua would have said it was a 'spiritual cleansing'. But nowhere in scripture is water baptism referred to as a spiritual cleansing. It is your own interpretation and we are commanded this in Deuteronomy,

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Deuteronomy 4:2

Water baptism is always spoken about in the literal sense. True, in a way, it is a spiritual cleansing but that cleansing cannot happen without literal water.
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I believe there are two interpretations of the Bible. One: Literal. The other: Spiritual. I believe God did this for a purpose. A specific purpose. That was so they that have not "ears to hear" (those children of the Anti-Christ) will never be able to understand the Spiritual meaning of Word thus, only God's servants or God's people can discern the Spiritual side of the Word. It is by God's grace alone that one is given these ears to hear.

That is just what has been deposited in my heart to believe. I don't care if you agree with it.

RockyMtnLady
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Yes, the bible is both literal and metaphorical in some parts but in no way does the bible say that water baptism is spiritual, not once. It was always spoken of in literal terms. Do you deny the Messiahs own words that one cannot enter the kingdom of God unless they have been baptized with water??? Because that is what it sounds like.
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I believe in the Scripture and the Word of God. That this is the only truth. But do I believe that literal, natural water is a prerequisite to baptism, no, I don't believe that is what God intended in this Scripture.

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No, not a prerequisite to baptism, a prerequisite to Salvation.

I think the word of God is pretty clear.

“There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again” (John 3:1-7).

If he didn't mean literal water, then why did he make mention of water at all?
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A spiritual cleansing? But you said this in your last post,

"Because I have Faith that everything that was written in Holy Scripture is for a very specific purpose.....inclusions and exclusions. I believe if natural (literal) water baptism is necessary for salvation, then Christ would have said "you must be baptized first" or God would have inspired Luke to write that this man had received natural water baptism earlier in his Life."

Surely Yeshua would have said it was a 'spiritual cleansing'. But nowhere in scripture is water baptism referred to as a spiritual cleansing. It is your own interpretation and we are commanded this in Deuteronomy,

Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Deuteronomy 4:2

Water baptism is always spoken about in the literal sense. True, in a way, it is a spiritual cleansing but that cleansing cannot happen without literal water.
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I believe there are two interpretations of the Bible. One: Literal. The other: Spiritual. I believe God did this for a purpose. A specific purpose. That was so they that have not "ears to hear" (those children of the Anti-Christ) will never be able to understand the Spiritual meaning of Word thus, only God's servants or God's people can discern the Spiritual side of the Word. It is by God's grace alone that one is given these ears to hear.

That is just what has been deposited in my heart to believe. I don't care if you agree with it.

RockyMtnLady
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Yes, the bible is both literal and metaphorical in some parts but in no way does the bible say that water baptism is spiritual, not once. It was always spoken of in literal terms. Do you deny the Messiahs own words that one cannot enter the kingdom of God unless they have been baptized with water??? Because that is what it sounds like.
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And if you do, you are a false teacher.
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I am not a teacher. I am simply a lowly person, defending off the enemy, praying every day that our Saviour will eliminate the "old man" from my existence so that some day I will be seen as worthy.

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I believe there are two interpretations of the Bible. One: Literal. The other: Spiritual. I believe God did this for a purpose. A specific purpose. That was so they that have not "ears to hear" (those children of the Anti-Christ) will never be able to understand the Spiritual meaning of Word thus, only God's servants or God's people can discern the Spiritual side of the Word. It is by God's grace alone that one is given these ears to hear.

That is just what has been deposited in my heart to believe. I don't care if you agree with it.

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Yes, the bible is both literal and metaphorical in some parts but in no way does the bible say that water baptism is spiritual, not once. It was always spoken of in literal terms. Do you deny the Messiahs own words that one cannot enter the kingdom of God unless they have been baptized with water??? Because that is what it sounds like.
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And if you do, you are a false teacher.
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I am not a teacher. I am simply a lowly person, defending off the enemy, praying every day that our Saviour will eliminate the "old man" from my existence so that some day I will be seen as worthy.

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Well what you say contradicts the Messiah, therefore it is anti-Christ and should be rejected.
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Yes, the bible is both literal and metaphorical in some parts but in no way does the bible say that water baptism is spiritual, not once. It was always spoken of in literal terms. Do you deny the Messiahs own words that one cannot enter the kingdom of God unless they have been baptized with water??? Because that is what it sounds like.
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And if you do, you are a false teacher.
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I am not a teacher. I am simply a lowly person, defending off the enemy, praying every day that our Saviour will eliminate the "old man" from my existence so that some day I will be seen as worthy.

RockyMtnLady
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Well what you say contradicts the Messiah, therefore it is anti-Christ and should be rejected.
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I didn't contradict Scripture. Literal, natural water is not needed for salvation. Instead, it is the what the water symbolizes.

21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.[a] It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, (1 Pet 3:21)

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And if you do, you are a false teacher.
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I am not a teacher. I am simply a lowly person, defending off the enemy, praying every day that our Saviour will eliminate the "old man" from my existence so that some day I will be seen as worthy.

RockyMtnLady
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Well what you say contradicts the Messiah, therefore it is anti-Christ and should be rejected.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41811028


I didn't contradict Scripture. Literal, natural water is not needed for salvation. Instead, it is the what the water symbolizes.

21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.[a] It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, (1 Pet 3:21)

RockyMtnLady
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Titus 3:5, "he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit."

The washing of rebirth can only be that washing of the blood of Christ that cleanses us. It is not the symbol that saves, but the reality. The reality is the blood of Christ."

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And if you do, you are a false teacher.
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I am not a teacher. I am simply a lowly person, defending off the enemy, praying every day that our Saviour will eliminate the "old man" from my existence so that some day I will be seen as worthy.

RockyMtnLady
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Well what you say contradicts the Messiah, therefore it is anti-Christ and should be rejected.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41811028


I didn't contradict Scripture. Literal, natural water is not needed for salvation. Instead, it is the what the water symbolizes.

21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God.[a] It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ, (1 Pet 3:21)

RockyMtnLady
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1 Peter 3:21

King James Version (KJV)

21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

What translation did you use because the King James says otherwise.

And yes you have contradicted the Messiah since he says we need to be baptized with water just like Yeshua was himself by John the Baptist.

"Instead, it is the what the water symbolizes."

What water? You just denied water was needed.

You have not made it clear that if you reject literal water baptism, what did he mean when he said that? What is the alternative to you? The act of water baptism is spiritual cleansing but you cannot be cleaned without the water. I don't understand what you mean saying otherwise.

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