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I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

 
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Please. I went to the store, you idiot.

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norespect

Sure you did. You know it's a sin to lie? You went to the store at the exact time I/God defeated/exposed/humbled you?

How convenient.
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I would like to tell everyone here that this false witness from Ireland didn't "humble or expose" me in any way. I went to the store to get my kids' school supplies so his claims are just foolish.

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You just can't handle yourself can you? By you making this post and not leaving things be shows I did.
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Like I said, he is like a cancer. He is malignant, at that. Thanks for showing your true colors.

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Dear My Brothers and Sisters,

As you read through the last couple pages and this false witness, Ireland's history on this thread, please pray and ask for truth to be revealed to your heart. Rest assured, he will back. He is like a fly circling shit. He is that fly that won't go away. That is fine but I won't back down. I will stand up for the true interpretation of our God Almighty's Word and will continue (alongside PJ) to fight him until all my Brothers and Sisters have come to our Saviour, Jesus Christ.

It has been deposited in my heart to fight for truth. I pray for you all morning and night. That you realize our Saviour's love for us. It is beyond comprehension.

I pray for each and every one of you and for every derogatory comment he (Ireland) makes toward each one of you that has an honest heart, I will stand up.

God Bless each and every one of you,
RockyMtnLady
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Dear My Brothers and Sisters,

As you read through the last couple pages and this false witness, Ireland's history on this thread, please pray and ask for truth to be revealed to your heart. Rest assured, he will back. He is like a fly circling shit. He is that fly that won't go away. That is fine but I won't back down. I will stand up for the true interpretation of our God Almighty's Word and will continue (alongside PJ) to fight him until all my Brothers and Sisters have come to our Saviour, Jesus Christ.

It has been deposited in my heart to fight for truth. I pray for you all morning and night. That you realize our Saviour's love for us. It is beyond comprehension.

I pray for each and every one of you and for every derogatory comment he (Ireland) makes toward each one of you that has an honest heart, I will stand up.

God Bless each and every one of you,
RockyMtnLady
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What a weirdo.
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Dear My Brothers and Sisters,

As you read through the last couple pages and this false witness, Ireland's history on this thread, please pray and ask for truth to be revealed to your heart. Rest assured, he will back. He is like a fly circling shit. He is that fly that won't go away. That is fine but I won't back down. I will stand up for the true interpretation of our God Almighty's Word and will continue (alongside PJ) to fight him until all my Brothers and Sisters have come to our Saviour, Jesus Christ.

It has been deposited in my heart to fight for truth. I pray for you all morning and night. That you realize our Saviour's love for us. It is beyond comprehension.

I pray for each and every one of you and for every derogatory comment he (Ireland) makes toward each one of you that has an honest heart, I will stand up.

God Bless each and every one of you,
RockyMtnLady
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cruisenorespect5a

What a weirdo.
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What's your fixation w/ Rodney Dangerfield and weird chicks dancing in tutus?

Who's the weirdo?

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Dear My Brothers and Sisters,

As you read through the last couple pages and this false witness, Ireland's history on this thread, please pray and ask for truth to be revealed to your heart. Rest assured, he will back. He is like a fly circling shit. He is that fly that won't go away. That is fine but I won't back down. I will stand up for the true interpretation of our God Almighty's Word and will continue (alongside PJ) to fight him until all my Brothers and Sisters have come to our Saviour, Jesus Christ.

It has been deposited in my heart to fight for truth. I pray for you all morning and night. That you realize our Saviour's love for us. It is beyond comprehension.

I pray for each and every one of you and for every derogatory comment he (Ireland) makes toward each one of you that has an honest heart, I will stand up.

God Bless each and every one of you,
RockyMtnLady
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cruisenorespect5a

What a weirdo.
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What's your fixation w/ Rodney Dangerfield and weird chicks dancing in tutus?

Who's the weirdo?

RockyMtnLady
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Lame comeback. Tard.
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Dear My Brothers and Sisters,

As you read through the last couple pages and this false witness, Ireland's history on this thread, please pray and ask for truth to be revealed to your heart. Rest assured, he will back. He is like a fly circling shit. He is that fly that won't go away. That is fine but I won't back down. I will stand up for the true interpretation of our God Almighty's Word and will continue (alongside PJ) to fight him until all my Brothers and Sisters have come to our Saviour, Jesus Christ.

It has been deposited in my heart to fight for truth. I pray for you all morning and night. That you realize our Saviour's love for us. It is beyond comprehension.

I pray for each and every one of you and for every derogatory comment he (Ireland) makes toward each one of you that has an honest heart, I will stand up.

God Bless each and every one of you,
RockyMtnLady
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cruisenorespect5a

What a weirdo.
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What's your fixation w/ Rodney Dangerfield and weird chicks dancing in tutus?

Who's the weirdo?

RockyMtnLady
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Lame comeback. Tard.
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Tard. I haven't heard that since the 7th grade. Keep it up, Ireland.

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cruisenorespect5a

What a weirdo.
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What's your fixation w/ Rodney Dangerfield and weird chicks dancing in tutus?

Who's the weirdo?

RockyMtnLady
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Lame comeback. Tard.
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Tard. I haven't heard that since the 7th grade. Keep it up, Ireland.

RockyMtnLady
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I am just savoring your defeat and utter humiliation earlier today still. You fell on your face. lol
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What's your fixation w/ Rodney Dangerfield and weird chicks dancing in tutus?

Who's the weirdo?

RockyMtnLady
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Lame comeback. Tard.
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Tard. I haven't heard that since the 7th grade. Keep it up, Ireland.

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I am just savoring your defeat and utter humiliation earlier today still. You fell on your face. lol
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If you have so much confidence in your defeat, why do you continue coming back here? Why wouldn't you just have quiet confidence that you have defeated the adversary?

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Lame comeback. Tard.
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Tard. I haven't heard that since the 7th grade. Keep it up, Ireland.

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I am just savoring your defeat and utter humiliation earlier today still. You fell on your face. lol
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If you have so much confidence in your defeat, why do you continue coming back here? Why wouldn't you just have quiet confidence that you have defeated the adversary?

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In my defeat? No, it was in your defeat. I just felt like rubbing it in your face some more. I'm done now. lol
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Tard. I haven't heard that since the 7th grade. Keep it up, Ireland.

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I am just savoring your defeat and utter humiliation earlier today still. You fell on your face. lol
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If you have so much confidence in your defeat, why do you continue coming back here? Why wouldn't you just have quiet confidence that you have defeated the adversary?

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In my defeat? No, it was in your defeat. I just felt like rubbing it in your face some more. I'm done now. lol
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There goes the nervous "lol". I can just picture the kind of guy you are....it makes me chuckle.

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I am just savoring your defeat and utter humiliation earlier today still. You fell on your face. lol
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If you have so much confidence in your defeat, why do you continue coming back here? Why wouldn't you just have quiet confidence that you have defeated the adversary?

RockyMtnLady
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In my defeat? No, it was in your defeat. I just felt like rubbing it in your face some more. I'm done now. lol
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There goes the nervous "lol". I can just picture the kind of guy you are....it makes me chuckle.

RockyMtnLady
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Where do you get 'nervous lol' from? What a stupid thing to say. How have I demonstrated any nervousness in this thread? I have been the one who is crushing you. lol what a simpleton you are.

I think you are projecting again stupid woman.

Are you nervous still? lol
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I am just savoring your defeat and utter humiliation earlier today still. You fell on your face. lol
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If you have so much confidence in your defeat, why do you continue coming back here? Why wouldn't you just have quiet confidence that you have defeated the adversary?

RockyMtnLady
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In my defeat? No, it was in your defeat. I just felt like rubbing it in your face some more. I'm done now. lol
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There goes the nervous "lol". I can just picture the kind of guy you are....it makes me chuckle.

RockyMtnLady
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You can tell how someone is if they use the very popular internet meme lol? Wow, you are a strange one, aren't you? weirdo
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If you have so much confidence in your defeat, why do you continue coming back here? Why wouldn't you just have quiet confidence that you have defeated the adversary?

RockyMtnLady
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In my defeat? No, it was in your defeat. I just felt like rubbing it in your face some more. I'm done now. lol
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There goes the nervous "lol". I can just picture the kind of guy you are....it makes me chuckle.

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Where do you get 'nervous lol' from? What a stupid thing to say. How have I demonstrated any nervousness in this thread? I have been the one who is crushing you. lol what a simpleton you are.

I think you are projecting again stupid woman.

Are you nervous still? lol
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According to whom, have you crushed me? To all who read this thread, if Ireland has "crushed" me, please reply to this message/thread letting us know. I will be happy to pose my stance very simply and strongly based in Holy Scripture.

Thank you to everyone.

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Because I wish to have complete transparency with my brothers and sisters, I am stepping away for a couple hours to take my children to the doctor.

I will be back shortly to answer any replies.

God Bless you all,
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In my defeat? No, it was in your defeat. I just felt like rubbing it in your face some more. I'm done now. lol
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There goes the nervous "lol". I can just picture the kind of guy you are....it makes me chuckle.

RockyMtnLady
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Where do you get 'nervous lol' from? What a stupid thing to say. How have I demonstrated any nervousness in this thread? I have been the one who is crushing you. lol what a simpleton you are.

I think you are projecting again stupid woman.

Are you nervous still? lol
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According to whom, have you crushed me? To all who read this thread, if Ireland has "crushed" me, please reply to this message/thread letting us know. I will be happy to pose my stance very simply and strongly based in Holy Scripture.

Thank you to everyone.

RockyMtnLady
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So Ireland, it seems that you are certainly on your own thinking you "crushed" me.

Let me ask you, since you claim that Jesus Christ, Messiah, is the BRANCH. When did our Saviour, who is the tree of life become just a branch?

For those searching the truth, read Isa 11:1 as the difference can clearly be seen.

God Bless you,
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There goes the nervous "lol". I can just picture the kind of guy you are....it makes me chuckle.

RockyMtnLady
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Where do you get 'nervous lol' from? What a stupid thing to say. How have I demonstrated any nervousness in this thread? I have been the one who is crushing you. lol what a simpleton you are.

I think you are projecting again stupid woman.

Are you nervous still? lol
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According to whom, have you crushed me? To all who read this thread, if Ireland has "crushed" me, please reply to this message/thread letting us know. I will be happy to pose my stance very simply and strongly based in Holy Scripture.

Thank you to everyone.

RockyMtnLady
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So Ireland, it seems that you are certainly on your own thinking you "crushed" me.

Let me ask you, since you claim that Jesus Christ, Messiah, is the BRANCH. When did our Saviour, who is the tree of life become just a branch?

For those searching the truth, read Isa 11:1 as the difference can clearly be seen.

God Bless you,
RockyMtnLady
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Tick. Tock. Tick. Tock.

Waiting for your "lol response lol." Doesn't that just reek of nervousness?

You have been shown, once again, to be what you truly are, nothing more than Satan's child.

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I have never called you "old" or young. I have my thoughts about your age because of your writing style but I would never use the word "old" in an insult to you.

"The Branch refers to Yeshua the Messiah you clown and nowhere does that refer to the two witnesses."

"O Jehovah, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Jehovah, revive thy work IN THE MIDST OF THE YEARS; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy." (Hab 3:2 ASV)

This aligns with Zech 11:14, where we read that the Lord cuts asunder his staff BANDS. Since the first staff Beauty in Zech 11:10 is Jesus, everybody ought to know that Bands comes in the NT time, namely in the midst of NT time according to Hab 3:2. He thus also is the BRANCH that comes out of the roots of the SHOOT, who is Jesus in Isa 11:1.

The branch, who is called BANDS, is the one foretold in Rev 20:1, for he starts what Jesus talks about in Matt 19:28. That time and day is the day of vengeance, and God's people partake of it, as you can see from Psalm 149. That day is also the acceptable year, for on it takes REGENERATION place (Matt 19:28).

Therefore, the BRANCH is the Man-child, you foolish person.

RockyMtnLady

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"I have never called you "old" or young. I have my thoughts about your age because of your writing style but I would never use the word "old" in an insult to you."

Did I say you did? So, why are you afraid to tell us my age and display your superior 'discernment'? We are waiting or are you afraid? lol so much fail.


"O Jehovah, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Jehovah, revive thy work IN THE MIDST OF THE YEARS; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy." (Hab 3:2 ASV)

This aligns with Zech 11:14, where we read that the Lord cuts asunder his staff BANDS. Since the first staff Beauty in Zech 11:10 is Jesus, everybody ought to know that Bands comes in the NT time, namely in the midst of NT time according to Hab 3:2. He thus also is the BRANCH that comes out of the roots of the SHOOT, who is Jesus in Isa 11:1.

The branch, who is called BANDS, is the one foretold in Rev 20:1, for he starts what Jesus talks about in Matt 19:28. That time and day is the day of vengeance, and God's people partake of it, as you can see from Psalm 149. That day is also the acceptable year, for on it takes REGENERATION place (Matt 19:28).

Therefore, the BRANCH is the Man-child, you foolish person.


Why do you think I give a shit about your false interpretations? That is simply your own conjecture above.


"O Jehovah, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Jehovah, revive thy work IN THE MIDST OF THE YEARS; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy." (Hab 3:2 ASV)"

Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel. Zechariah 11:14

How the hell does that have anything to do with Zachariah? You make no sense.

And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people. Zachariah 11:10

How does that refer to Yeshua?

Isaiah 11:1

King James Version (KJV)

11 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

As I said, the Branch is Yeshua the Messiah who comes from the seed of Jesse, the seed of David.

"The branch, who is called BANDS, is the one foretold in Rev 20:1, for he starts what Jesus talks about in Matt 19:28. That time and day is the day of vengeance, and God's people partake of it, as you can see from Psalm 149. That day is also the acceptable year, for on it takes REGENERATION place (Matt 19:28).

Therefore, the BRANCH is the Man-child, you foolish person."

No, the branch is called the branch, NOT the bands. Yeshua is the Man-Child you ignoramus. Damn I get tired of your simple nonsense. Stop wasting my time with your ignorant conjecture and false interpretations.
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This was written by PJ some time back and will help all those seek the truth see the grave misstep that Ireland has made (go figure!)


"Dear people, all of you who love the truth,

Let nobody deceive you by twisting the scriptures about the Branch, about which you can read in Isa 11:1.

Jesus Christ is the rod out of the stem of Jesse, whereas the Branch is the servant of God who is foretold in Zech 6:12-13:


And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.
Quoting: The Bible


Branch is a certain servant of God, namely the man child in Rev 12:5, for he grows out of the roots of the rod (Jesus Christ), which means that he comes after the the true apostolic church has been ruined by the Antichrist (those many false teachers (2 Joh 7). Only the roots of the church are left, from where he comes, i.e the uncorrupted words of Holy Scripture.

Therefore, let no man deceive you, for it is important to know that Branch is the spiritual coming of Jesus Christ through a true servant, but that coming the children of Antichrist, his false teachers, try to twist into a literal coming. That is falsehood!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah"

So we see once again that Ireland is just spewing out falsehood.

RockyMtnLady
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The Branch is the Messiah you clown.

See commentaries.

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

11:1-9 The Messiah is called a Rod, and a Branch. The words signify a small, tender product; a shoot, such as is easily broken off. He comes forth out of the stem of Jesse; when the royal family was cut down and almost levelled with the ground, it would sprout again. The house of David was brought very low at the time of Christ's birth. The Messiah thus gave early notice that his kingdom was not of this world. But the Holy Spirit, in all his gifts and graces, shall rest and abide upon him; he shall have the fulness of the Godhead dwelling in him, Col 1:19; 2:9. Many consider that seven gifts of the Holy Spirit are here mentioned. And the doctrine of the influences of the Holy Spirit is here clearly taught. The Messiah would be just and righteous in all his government. His threatening shall be executed by the working of his Spirit according to his word. There shall be great peace and quiet under his government. The gospel changes the nature, and makes those who trampled on the meek of the earth, meek like them, and kind to them. But it shall be more fully shown in the latter days. Also Christ, the great Shepherd, shall take care of his flock, that the nature of troubles, and of death itself, shall be so changed, that they shall not do any real hurt. God's people shall be delivered, not only from evil, but from the fear of it. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? The better we know the God of love, the more shall we be changed into the same likeness, and the better disposed to all who have any likeness to him. This knowledge shall extend as the sea, so far shall it spread. And this blessed power there have been witnesses in every age of Christianity, though its most glorious time, here foretold, is not yet arrived. Meanwhile let us aim that our example and endeavours may help to promote the honour of Christ and his kingdom of peace.
Pulpit Commentary

Verses 1-9. - A RENEWED PROPHECY OF MESSIAH AND OF HIS KINGDOM. This chapter is closely connected with the preceding. With the final destruction of Assyria, which, being cut down, sends out no shoot (Isaiah 10:33, 34), is contrasted the recuperative energy of Israel, which, though equally leveled with the ground (Isaiah 9:18, 19), shall spring afresh into life, and "renew its youth." The recovery is connected - or rather identified with the coming of Messiah, whose character is beautifully portrayed (vers. 2-5). An elaborate description of Messiah's kingdom follows (vers. 6-10) - an expansion of the briefer one in Isaiah 2:3, 4. Verse 1. - There shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse. The blasted and ruined "stem" or stock of Jesse, cut down, and for ages hidden from sight, shall suddenly put forth a sprout - a young green sapling, tender vet vigorous, weak seemingly, yet foil of life (comp. Job 14:7-9, "There is hope of a tree, if it he cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not crease. Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground; yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant"). "The stem of Jesse" must mean the house of David, for there is but one Jesse (Ishai) in Scripture - David's father. A Branch shall grow out of his roots. That which is at first a sapling gains strength and grows into a "branch" (see Isaiah 4:2, where the word used, though different, is synonymous).
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse,.... By which is meant, not Hezekiah, as R. Moses (o) the priest, and others, since he was now born, and must be at least ten or twelve years of age; but the Messiah, as both the text and context show, and as is owned by many Jewish writers (p), ancient and modern: and he is called a "rod", either because of his unpromising appearance, arising "out of the stem of Jesse"; from him, in the line of David, when that family was like a tree cut down, and its stump only left in the ground, which was the case when Jesus was born of it: Jesse's family was at first but a mean and obscure one; it became very illustrious in David's time, and in some following reigns; from the Babylonish captivity, till the time of Christ, it was very low; and at the birth of Christ was low indeed, his supposed father being a carpenter, and his real mother Mary a poor virgin, dwelling at Nazareth; and it seemed very unlikely, under these circumstances, that he should be the King Messiah, and be so great as was foretold he should; and have that power, authority, and wisdom he had; and do such mighty works as he did; and especially be the author of eternal salvation; and bring forth such fruits, and be the cause of such blessings of grace, as he was: or else because of his kingly power and majesty, the rod or branch being put for a sceptre, and so a symbol of that; to which the Targum agrees, paraphrasing the words thus,

"and a King shall come forth from the sons of Jesse:''

and the sense is, that though Jesse's or David's family should be brought so very low as to be as the stem or stump of a tree, without a body, branches, leaves, and fruit; yet from thence should arise a mighty King, even the King Messiah, who is spoken of by so many august names and titles, Isaiah 9:6 and this is observed for the comfort of the people of Israel, when distressed by the Assyrians, as in the preceding chapter Isaiah 10:1; when those high ones, comparable to the loftiest cedars in Lebanon, and to the tallest trees in the forest, should be hewn down, a rod should come out of Jesse's stem, which should rise higher, and spread more than ever they did:

and a branch shall grow out of his roots; the roots of Jesse, out of his family, compared to the stump of a tree; meaning either his ancestors, as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah, Boaz, and Obed; or his posterity, as David, Joseph, and Mary; and so the Targum,

"and the Messiah shall be anointed (or exalted) from his children's children.''

The branch is a well known name of the Messiah; See Gill on Isaiah 4:2 the word Netzer, here used, is the name of the city of Nazareth (q); which perhaps was so called, from the trees, plants, and grass, which grew here; and so our Lord's dwelling here fulfilled a prophecy, that he should be called a Nazarene; or an inhabitant of Netzer, Matthew 2:23. The Jews (r) speak of one Ben Netzer, who they say was a robber, took cities, and reigned over them, and became the head of robbers; and make (s) him to be the little horn in Daniel 7:8 and wickedly and maliciously say (t) he was Jesus; and yet, under all this wickedness, they tacitly own that Jesus of Nazareth is the Netzer this prophecy speaks of; the design of which is to show the meanness of Christ's descent as man, and that he should be as a root out of a dry ground, Isaiah 53:2 or rather as a rod and branch out of a dry root.

(o) Apud Aben Ezra in loc. (p) Bereshit Rabba, sect. 85. fol. 75. 1. Midrash Tillim in Psal. lxxii. 1. Apud Yalkut Simeoni, par. 2. fol. 112. 2. Abarbinel, Mashmia Jeshua, fol. 8. 4. Aben Ezra, Jarchi, & Kimchi, in loc. Nachman. Disputat. cum Fratre Paulo, p. 53. (q) David de Pomis Lexic. p. 141. (r) T. Bab. Cetubot, fol. 51. 2. & Gloss. in ib. (s) Bereshit Rabba, sect. 76. fol. 67. 2.((t) Abarbinel in Daniel 7.8. fol. 44. 1.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

CHAPTER 11

Isa 11:1-16.

From the local and temporary national deliverance the prophet passes by the law of suggestion in an easy transition to the end of all prophecy—the everlasting deliverance under Messiah's reign, not merely His first coming, but chiefly His second coming. The language and illustrations are still drawn from the temporary national subject, with which he began, but the glories described pertain to Messiah's reign. Hezekiah cannot, as some think, be the subject; for he was already come, whereas the "stem of Jesse" was yet future ("shall come") (compare Mic 4:11, &c.; 5:1, 2; Jer 23:5, 6; 33:15, 16; Ro 15:12).

1. rod—When the proud "boughs" of "Lebanon" (Isa 10:33, 34, the Assyrians) are lopped, and the vast "forests cut down" amidst all this rage, a seemingly humble rod shall come out of Jesse (Messiah), who shall retrieve the injuries done by the Assyrian "rod" to Israel (Isa 10:5, 6, 18, 19).

stem—literally, "the stump" of a tree cut close by the roots: happily expressing the depressed state of the royal house of David, owing to the hostile storm (Isa 10:18, 19), when Messiah should arise from it, to raise it to more than its pristine glory. Lu 2:7 proves this (Isa 53:2; compare Job 14:7, 8; see on [704]Isa 8:6).

Branch—Scion. He is nevertheless also the "root" (Isa 11:10; Re 5:5; 22:16. "Root and offspring" combines both, Zec 3:8; 6:12).

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You are the one spewing false teachings. You fail badly. I find it amusing how you use a false prophet/teacher to validate yourself.
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That's a cool copy paste, Bro.

One Love,
D.

P.S: Had to report your post where you disrespectfully called RML an inferior woman that does not know her place.
This is the lowest you have ever been, so far.
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Indeed, we will.

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lol fail. I'm so delighted you made a fool out of yourself today, you tried to shame me and then you fell on your face when my Father in Heaven gave me the victory over you. Do you have your cape on?

lol

sbus
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I made a fool out of myself, according to whom? You? All you can do is "lol" and do this nervous laughing to try to act like you have defeated me in some way.

You are digging your own grave and sealing your fate.

RockyMtnLady
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Yeah you did and it's obvious to anyone who reads this. That is why you took so long to respond when God Almighty humbled you and your haughtiness. And me lol'ing is to let you know how much I am laughing at you and your weak failings. I don't see why you would think it is nervous laughter, what do I have to be nervous of from you.

"You are digging your own grave and sealing your fate."

You have no Authority to make those claims. Fail. lol
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That is why you took so long to respond

Lol. Nah Bro, some people do actually have a life. :))

One Love,
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"I have never called you "old" or young. I have my thoughts about your age because of your writing style but I would never use the word "old" in an insult to you."

Did I say you did? So, why are you afraid to tell us my age and display your superior 'discernment'? We are waiting or are you afraid? lol so much fail.


"O Jehovah, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Jehovah, revive thy work IN THE MIDST OF THE YEARS; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy." (Hab 3:2 ASV)

This aligns with Zech 11:14, where we read that the Lord cuts asunder his staff BANDS. Since the first staff Beauty in Zech 11:10 is Jesus, everybody ought to know that Bands comes in the NT time, namely in the midst of NT time according to Hab 3:2. He thus also is the BRANCH that comes out of the roots of the SHOOT, who is Jesus in Isa 11:1.

The branch, who is called BANDS, is the one foretold in Rev 20:1, for he starts what Jesus talks about in Matt 19:28. That time and day is the day of vengeance, and God's people partake of it, as you can see from Psalm 149. That day is also the acceptable year, for on it takes REGENERATION place (Matt 19:28).

Therefore, the BRANCH is the Man-child, you foolish person.


Why do you think I give a shit about your false interpretations? That is simply your own conjecture above.


"O Jehovah, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Jehovah, revive thy work IN THE MIDST OF THE YEARS; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy." (Hab 3:2 ASV)"

Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel. Zechariah 11:14

How the hell does that have anything to do with Zachariah? You make no sense.

And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people. Zachariah 11:10

How does that refer to Yeshua?

Isaiah 11:1

King James Version (KJV)

11 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

As I said, the Branch is Yeshua the Messiah who comes from the seed of Jesse, the seed of David.

"The branch, who is called BANDS, is the one foretold in Rev 20:1, for he starts what Jesus talks about in Matt 19:28. That time and day is the day of vengeance, and God's people partake of it, as you can see from Psalm 149. That day is also the acceptable year, for on it takes REGENERATION place (Matt 19:28).

Therefore, the BRANCH is the Man-child, you foolish person."

No, the branch is called the branch, NOT the bands. Yeshua is the Man-Child you ignoramus. Damn I get tired of your simple nonsense. Stop wasting my time with your ignorant conjecture and false interpretations.
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This was written by PJ some time back and will help all those seek the truth see the grave misstep that Ireland has made (go figure!)


"Dear people, all of you who love the truth,

Let nobody deceive you by twisting the scriptures about the Branch, about which you can read in Isa 11:1.

Jesus Christ is the rod out of the stem of Jesse, whereas the Branch is the servant of God who is foretold in Zech 6:12-13:


And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.
Quoting: The Bible


Branch is a certain servant of God, namely the man child in Rev 12:5, for he grows out of the roots of the rod (Jesus Christ), which means that he comes after the the true apostolic church has been ruined by the Antichrist (those many false teachers (2 Joh 7). Only the roots of the church are left, from where he comes, i.e the uncorrupted words of Holy Scripture.

Therefore, let no man deceive you, for it is important to know that Branch is the spiritual coming of Jesus Christ through a true servant, but that coming the children of Antichrist, his false teachers, try to twist into a literal coming. That is falsehood!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah"

So we see once again that Ireland is just spewing out falsehood.

RockyMtnLady
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The Branch is the Messiah you clown.

See commentaries.

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

11:1-9 The Messiah is called a Rod, and a Branch. The words signify a small, tender product; a shoot, such as is easily broken off. He comes forth out of the stem of Jesse; when the royal family was cut down and almost levelled with the ground, it would sprout again. The house of David was brought very low at the time of Christ's birth. The Messiah thus gave early notice that his kingdom was not of this world. But the Holy Spirit, in all his gifts and graces, shall rest and abide upon him; he shall have the fulness of the Godhead dwelling in him, Col 1:19; 2:9. Many consider that seven gifts of the Holy Spirit are here mentioned. And the doctrine of the influences of the Holy Spirit is here clearly taught. The Messiah would be just and righteous in all his government. His threatening shall be executed by the working of his Spirit according to his word. There shall be great peace and quiet under his government. The gospel changes the nature, and makes those who trampled on the meek of the earth, meek like them, and kind to them. But it shall be more fully shown in the latter days. Also Christ, the great Shepherd, shall take care of his flock, that the nature of troubles, and of death itself, shall be so changed, that they shall not do any real hurt. God's people shall be delivered, not only from evil, but from the fear of it. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? The better we know the God of love, the more shall we be changed into the same likeness, and the better disposed to all who have any likeness to him. This knowledge shall extend as the sea, so far shall it spread. And this blessed power there have been witnesses in every age of Christianity, though its most glorious time, here foretold, is not yet arrived. Meanwhile let us aim that our example and endeavours may help to promote the honour of Christ and his kingdom of peace.
Pulpit Commentary

Verses 1-9. - A RENEWED PROPHECY OF MESSIAH AND OF HIS KINGDOM. This chapter is closely connected with the preceding. With the final destruction of Assyria, which, being cut down, sends out no shoot (Isaiah 10:33, 34), is contrasted the recuperative energy of Israel, which, though equally leveled with the ground (Isaiah 9:18, 19), shall spring afresh into life, and "renew its youth." The recovery is connected - or rather identified with the coming of Messiah, whose character is beautifully portrayed (vers. 2-5). An elaborate description of Messiah's kingdom follows (vers. 6-10) - an expansion of the briefer one in Isaiah 2:3, 4. Verse 1. - There shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse. The blasted and ruined "stem" or stock of Jesse, cut down, and for ages hidden from sight, shall suddenly put forth a sprout - a young green sapling, tender vet vigorous, weak seemingly, yet foil of life (comp. Job 14:7-9, "There is hope of a tree, if it he cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not crease. Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground; yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant"). "The stem of Jesse" must mean the house of David, for there is but one Jesse (Ishai) in Scripture - David's father. A Branch shall grow out of his roots. That which is at first a sapling gains strength and grows into a "branch" (see Isaiah 4:2, where the word used, though different, is synonymous).
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse,.... By which is meant, not Hezekiah, as R. Moses (o) the priest, and others, since he was now born, and must be at least ten or twelve years of age; but the Messiah, as both the text and context show, and as is owned by many Jewish writers (p), ancient and modern: and he is called a "rod", either because of his unpromising appearance, arising "out of the stem of Jesse"; from him, in the line of David, when that family was like a tree cut down, and its stump only left in the ground, which was the case when Jesus was born of it: Jesse's family was at first but a mean and obscure one; it became very illustrious in David's time, and in some following reigns; from the Babylonish captivity, till the time of Christ, it was very low; and at the birth of Christ was low indeed, his supposed father being a carpenter, and his real mother Mary a poor virgin, dwelling at Nazareth; and it seemed very unlikely, under these circumstances, that he should be the King Messiah, and be so great as was foretold he should; and have that power, authority, and wisdom he had; and do such mighty works as he did; and especially be the author of eternal salvation; and bring forth such fruits, and be the cause of such blessings of grace, as he was: or else because of his kingly power and majesty, the rod or branch being put for a sceptre, and so a symbol of that; to which the Targum agrees, paraphrasing the words thus,

"and a King shall come forth from the sons of Jesse:''

and the sense is, that though Jesse's or David's family should be brought so very low as to be as the stem or stump of a tree, without a body, branches, leaves, and fruit; yet from thence should arise a mighty King, even the King Messiah, who is spoken of by so many august names and titles, Isaiah 9:6 and this is observed for the comfort of the people of Israel, when distressed by the Assyrians, as in the preceding chapter Isaiah 10:1; when those high ones, comparable to the loftiest cedars in Lebanon, and to the tallest trees in the forest, should be hewn down, a rod should come out of Jesse's stem, which should rise higher, and spread more than ever they did:

and a branch shall grow out of his roots; the roots of Jesse, out of his family, compared to the stump of a tree; meaning either his ancestors, as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah, Boaz, and Obed; or his posterity, as David, Joseph, and Mary; and so the Targum,

"and the Messiah shall be anointed (or exalted) from his children's children.''

The branch is a well known name of the Messiah; See Gill on Isaiah 4:2 the word Netzer, here used, is the name of the city of Nazareth (q); which perhaps was so called, from the trees, plants, and grass, which grew here; and so our Lord's dwelling here fulfilled a prophecy, that he should be called a Nazarene; or an inhabitant of Netzer, Matthew 2:23. The Jews (r) speak of one Ben Netzer, who they say was a robber, took cities, and reigned over them, and became the head of robbers; and make (s) him to be the little horn in Daniel 7:8 and wickedly and maliciously say (t) he was Jesus; and yet, under all this wickedness, they tacitly own that Jesus of Nazareth is the Netzer this prophecy speaks of; the design of which is to show the meanness of Christ's descent as man, and that he should be as a root out of a dry ground, Isaiah 53:2 or rather as a rod and branch out of a dry root.

(o) Apud Aben Ezra in loc. (p) Bereshit Rabba, sect. 85. fol. 75. 1. Midrash Tillim in Psal. lxxii. 1. Apud Yalkut Simeoni, par. 2. fol. 112. 2. Abarbinel, Mashmia Jeshua, fol. 8. 4. Aben Ezra, Jarchi, & Kimchi, in loc. Nachman. Disputat. cum Fratre Paulo, p. 53. (q) David de Pomis Lexic. p. 141. (r) T. Bab. Cetubot, fol. 51. 2. & Gloss. in ib. (s) Bereshit Rabba, sect. 76. fol. 67. 2.((t) Abarbinel in Daniel 7.8. fol. 44. 1.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

CHAPTER 11

Isa 11:1-16.

From the local and temporary national deliverance the prophet passes by the law of suggestion in an easy transition to the end of all prophecy—the everlasting deliverance under Messiah's reign, not merely His first coming, but chiefly His second coming. The language and illustrations are still drawn from the temporary national subject, with which he began, but the glories described pertain to Messiah's reign. Hezekiah cannot, as some think, be the subject; for he was already come, whereas the "stem of Jesse" was yet future ("shall come") (compare Mic 4:11, &c.; 5:1, 2; Jer 23:5, 6; 33:15, 16; Ro 15:12).

1. rod—When the proud "boughs" of "Lebanon" (Isa 10:33, 34, the Assyrians) are lopped, and the vast "forests cut down" amidst all this rage, a seemingly humble rod shall come out of Jesse (Messiah), who shall retrieve the injuries done by the Assyrian "rod" to Israel (Isa 10:5, 6, 18, 19).

stem—literally, "the stump" of a tree cut close by the roots: happily expressing the depressed state of the royal house of David, owing to the hostile storm (Isa 10:18, 19), when Messiah should arise from it, to raise it to more than its pristine glory. Lu 2:7 proves this (Isa 53:2; compare Job 14:7, 8; see on [704]Isa 8:6).

Branch—Scion. He is nevertheless also the "root" (Isa 11:10; Re 5:5; 22:16. "Root and offspring" combines both, Zec 3:8; 6:12).

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You are the one spewing false teachings. You fail badly. I find it amusing how you use a false prophet/teacher to validate yourself.
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That's a cool copy paste, Bro.

One Love,
D.

P.S: Had to report your post where you disrespectfully called RML an inferior woman that does not know her place.
This is the lowest you have ever been, so far.
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Thanks, D. but if it's not him, it will be someone else.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Ephesians 6:12)

I believe it to be our job as brothers and sisters to stick together and watch over one another so I appreciate your gesture.

May God Bless you,
RockyMtnLady
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This was written by PJ some time back and will help all those seek the truth see the grave misstep that Ireland has made (go figure!)


"Dear people, all of you who love the truth,

Let nobody deceive you by twisting the scriptures about the Branch, about which you can read in Isa 11:1.

Jesus Christ is the rod out of the stem of Jesse, whereas the Branch is the servant of God who is foretold in Zech 6:12-13:


And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.
Quoting: The Bible


Branch is a certain servant of God, namely the man child in Rev 12:5, for he grows out of the roots of the rod (Jesus Christ), which means that he comes after the the true apostolic church has been ruined by the Antichrist (those many false teachers (2 Joh 7). Only the roots of the church are left, from where he comes, i.e the uncorrupted words of Holy Scripture.

Therefore, let no man deceive you, for it is important to know that Branch is the spiritual coming of Jesus Christ through a true servant, but that coming the children of Antichrist, his false teachers, try to twist into a literal coming. That is falsehood!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah"

So we see once again that Ireland is just spewing out falsehood.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2783420


The Branch is the Messiah you clown.

See commentaries.

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

11:1-9 The Messiah is called a Rod, and a Branch. The words signify a small, tender product; a shoot, such as is easily broken off. He comes forth out of the stem of Jesse; when the royal family was cut down and almost levelled with the ground, it would sprout again. The house of David was brought very low at the time of Christ's birth. The Messiah thus gave early notice that his kingdom was not of this world. But the Holy Spirit, in all his gifts and graces, shall rest and abide upon him; he shall have the fulness of the Godhead dwelling in him, Col 1:19; 2:9. Many consider that seven gifts of the Holy Spirit are here mentioned. And the doctrine of the influences of the Holy Spirit is here clearly taught. The Messiah would be just and righteous in all his government. His threatening shall be executed by the working of his Spirit according to his word. There shall be great peace and quiet under his government. The gospel changes the nature, and makes those who trampled on the meek of the earth, meek like them, and kind to them. But it shall be more fully shown in the latter days. Also Christ, the great Shepherd, shall take care of his flock, that the nature of troubles, and of death itself, shall be so changed, that they shall not do any real hurt. God's people shall be delivered, not only from evil, but from the fear of it. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? The better we know the God of love, the more shall we be changed into the same likeness, and the better disposed to all who have any likeness to him. This knowledge shall extend as the sea, so far shall it spread. And this blessed power there have been witnesses in every age of Christianity, though its most glorious time, here foretold, is not yet arrived. Meanwhile let us aim that our example and endeavours may help to promote the honour of Christ and his kingdom of peace.
Pulpit Commentary

Verses 1-9. - A RENEWED PROPHECY OF MESSIAH AND OF HIS KINGDOM. This chapter is closely connected with the preceding. With the final destruction of Assyria, which, being cut down, sends out no shoot (Isaiah 10:33, 34), is contrasted the recuperative energy of Israel, which, though equally leveled with the ground (Isaiah 9:18, 19), shall spring afresh into life, and "renew its youth." The recovery is connected - or rather identified with the coming of Messiah, whose character is beautifully portrayed (vers. 2-5). An elaborate description of Messiah's kingdom follows (vers. 6-10) - an expansion of the briefer one in Isaiah 2:3, 4. Verse 1. - There shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse. The blasted and ruined "stem" or stock of Jesse, cut down, and for ages hidden from sight, shall suddenly put forth a sprout - a young green sapling, tender vet vigorous, weak seemingly, yet foil of life (comp. Job 14:7-9, "There is hope of a tree, if it he cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not crease. Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground; yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant"). "The stem of Jesse" must mean the house of David, for there is but one Jesse (Ishai) in Scripture - David's father. A Branch shall grow out of his roots. That which is at first a sapling gains strength and grows into a "branch" (see Isaiah 4:2, where the word used, though different, is synonymous).
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse,.... By which is meant, not Hezekiah, as R. Moses (o) the priest, and others, since he was now born, and must be at least ten or twelve years of age; but the Messiah, as both the text and context show, and as is owned by many Jewish writers (p), ancient and modern: and he is called a "rod", either because of his unpromising appearance, arising "out of the stem of Jesse"; from him, in the line of David, when that family was like a tree cut down, and its stump only left in the ground, which was the case when Jesus was born of it: Jesse's family was at first but a mean and obscure one; it became very illustrious in David's time, and in some following reigns; from the Babylonish captivity, till the time of Christ, it was very low; and at the birth of Christ was low indeed, his supposed father being a carpenter, and his real mother Mary a poor virgin, dwelling at Nazareth; and it seemed very unlikely, under these circumstances, that he should be the King Messiah, and be so great as was foretold he should; and have that power, authority, and wisdom he had; and do such mighty works as he did; and especially be the author of eternal salvation; and bring forth such fruits, and be the cause of such blessings of grace, as he was: or else because of his kingly power and majesty, the rod or branch being put for a sceptre, and so a symbol of that; to which the Targum agrees, paraphrasing the words thus,

"and a King shall come forth from the sons of Jesse:''

and the sense is, that though Jesse's or David's family should be brought so very low as to be as the stem or stump of a tree, without a body, branches, leaves, and fruit; yet from thence should arise a mighty King, even the King Messiah, who is spoken of by so many august names and titles, Isaiah 9:6 and this is observed for the comfort of the people of Israel, when distressed by the Assyrians, as in the preceding chapter Isaiah 10:1; when those high ones, comparable to the loftiest cedars in Lebanon, and to the tallest trees in the forest, should be hewn down, a rod should come out of Jesse's stem, which should rise higher, and spread more than ever they did:

and a branch shall grow out of his roots; the roots of Jesse, out of his family, compared to the stump of a tree; meaning either his ancestors, as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah, Boaz, and Obed; or his posterity, as David, Joseph, and Mary; and so the Targum,

"and the Messiah shall be anointed (or exalted) from his children's children.''

The branch is a well known name of the Messiah; See Gill on Isaiah 4:2 the word Netzer, here used, is the name of the city of Nazareth (q); which perhaps was so called, from the trees, plants, and grass, which grew here; and so our Lord's dwelling here fulfilled a prophecy, that he should be called a Nazarene; or an inhabitant of Netzer, Matthew 2:23. The Jews (r) speak of one Ben Netzer, who they say was a robber, took cities, and reigned over them, and became the head of robbers; and make (s) him to be the little horn in Daniel 7:8 and wickedly and maliciously say (t) he was Jesus; and yet, under all this wickedness, they tacitly own that Jesus of Nazareth is the Netzer this prophecy speaks of; the design of which is to show the meanness of Christ's descent as man, and that he should be as a root out of a dry ground, Isaiah 53:2 or rather as a rod and branch out of a dry root.

(o) Apud Aben Ezra in loc. (p) Bereshit Rabba, sect. 85. fol. 75. 1. Midrash Tillim in Psal. lxxii. 1. Apud Yalkut Simeoni, par. 2. fol. 112. 2. Abarbinel, Mashmia Jeshua, fol. 8. 4. Aben Ezra, Jarchi, & Kimchi, in loc. Nachman. Disputat. cum Fratre Paulo, p. 53. (q) David de Pomis Lexic. p. 141. (r) T. Bab. Cetubot, fol. 51. 2. & Gloss. in ib. (s) Bereshit Rabba, sect. 76. fol. 67. 2.((t) Abarbinel in Daniel 7.8. fol. 44. 1.
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CHAPTER 11

Isa 11:1-16.

From the local and temporary national deliverance the prophet passes by the law of suggestion in an easy transition to the end of all prophecy—the everlasting deliverance under Messiah's reign, not merely His first coming, but chiefly His second coming. The language and illustrations are still drawn from the temporary national subject, with which he began, but the glories described pertain to Messiah's reign. Hezekiah cannot, as some think, be the subject; for he was already come, whereas the "stem of Jesse" was yet future ("shall come") (compare Mic 4:11, &c.; 5:1, 2; Jer 23:5, 6; 33:15, 16; Ro 15:12).

1. rod—When the proud "boughs" of "Lebanon" (Isa 10:33, 34, the Assyrians) are lopped, and the vast "forests cut down" amidst all this rage, a seemingly humble rod shall come out of Jesse (Messiah), who shall retrieve the injuries done by the Assyrian "rod" to Israel (Isa 10:5, 6, 18, 19).

stem—literally, "the stump" of a tree cut close by the roots: happily expressing the depressed state of the royal house of David, owing to the hostile storm (Isa 10:18, 19), when Messiah should arise from it, to raise it to more than its pristine glory. Lu 2:7 proves this (Isa 53:2; compare Job 14:7, 8; see on [704]Isa 8:6).

Branch—Scion. He is nevertheless also the "root" (Isa 11:10; Re 5:5; 22:16. "Root and offspring" combines both, Zec 3:8; 6:12).

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You are the one spewing false teachings. You fail badly. I find it amusing how you use a false prophet/teacher to validate yourself.
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That's a cool copy paste, Bro.

One Love,
D.

P.S: Had to report your post where you disrespectfully called RML an inferior woman that does not know her place.
This is the lowest you have ever been, so far.
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Thanks, D. but if it's not him, it will be someone else.

For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Ephesians 6:12)

I believe it to be our job as brothers and sisters to stick together and watch over one another so I appreciate your gesture.

May God Bless you,
RockyMtnLady
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Not a problem Sis, I do not have an issue in general with insults, even if I do condemn them. But this time he just went too far.

At least I have the fairness to say I reported him, he did insult and karma me down without even signing..

If God is really behind this guy, I really don't mind being damned. His words are far from the Truth I believe in.

Just let him be, he's just a kid craving for attention... Maybe one day he will wake up.

One Love,
D.
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You are incorrect. Just because I recognize the truth in his writing does not mean that he can "do no wrong in my eyes." As brothers and sisters, it is our jobs to maintain the highest degree of discernment when reading Scripture or anything else from other brothers and sisters. I answer to our Saviour, Jesus Christ. No one else. I don't expect you to find any truth in what I speak of or write.

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You are just another blind person entrenched in Mystery Babylon, you like to act and speak like you know the True Way but you have no clue. You are one who espouses false teachers and false prophets, you are guilty by association. Soon, you will see how wrong, blind, and stupid you have been. I look forward to it.
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So far you are the one being a bit isolated my friend.
Pj, chris and RML can have a decent and constructive discussion with each other. I fail to see where you fit in the picture.

And about the "you act and speak like you know" thingy, you are the one who keeps on picking expressions or things posted by others to integrate them in your speeches.

So much for an independant truth speaker, Bro.

One Love,
D.
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Maybe because I'm meant to be isolated. What would you know? Pfftt. And of course they can have a decent conversation, they all believe and accept the false prophet scum. I ain't here to win friends, it doesn't come with the territory. I don't fit in without any of that picture and I am glad of it. I don't want to associate with that kind.

"And about the "you act and speak like you know" thingy, you are the one who keeps on picking expressions or things posted by others to integrate them in your speeches."

And that is total nonsense. Please show where I do that you clown, you bloody idiot. Stop talking shite.
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And so much for someone who's got eyes to see too! Eheh.

One Love,
D.
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Hello everyone,

I found this today:

Meaning of Israel: God contended.

Jacob is renamed "Israel" by God (Genesis 32:28-29 and 35:10). The name "Israel" can be translated as "God contended",[5] but other meanings have also been suggested. Some commentators say the name comes from the verb śœarar ("to rule, be strong, have authority over"), thereby making the name mean "God rules" or "God judges".[6] Other possible meanings include "the prince of God" (from the King James Version) or "El fights/struggles"

Can anyone please comment?

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D.
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Dear Eliyahu,

I felt the need to comment on this as I came across that particular website on my journey for truth. Scripture clearly indicates that the Two Witnesses of Rev.11.3 are individuals.

Mat 20:20-23
20 Then came to him the mother of Zebedees children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him.

21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom.

22 But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.

23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

Historically, they are Joshua and Zerubbabel, read Zechariah 4.

May God Bless you on your quest for truth,
RockyMtnLady
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Dear Eliyahu,

I felt the need to comment on this as I came across that particular website on my journey for truth. Scripture clearly indicates that the Two Witnesses of Rev.11.3 are individuals.

Mat 20:20-23
20 Then came to him the mother of Zebedees children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him.

21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom.

22 But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.

23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

Historically, they are Joshua and Zerubbabel, read Zechariah 4.

May God Bless you on your quest for truth,
RockyMtnLady
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Hi RML,
Do you mind commenting on the 144,000 please.
The way they are soken of in the above link is very interesting.
Many thanks!
One Love,
D.
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 Quoting: Eliyahu 25138716


Dear Eliyahu,

I felt the need to comment on this as I came across that particular website on my journey for truth. Scripture clearly indicates that the Two Witnesses of Rev.11.3 are individuals.

Mat 20:20-23
20 Then came to him the mother of Zebedees children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him.

21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom.

22 But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.

23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

Historically, they are Joshua and Zerubbabel, read Zechariah 4.

May God Bless you on your quest for truth,
RockyMtnLady
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Hi RML,
Do you mind commenting on the 144,000 please.
The way they are soken of in the above link is very interesting.
Many thanks!
One Love,
D.
 Quoting: ExploringTheTruth


Hi D.,

The sealing of the 144,000 is occurring now. They are God's elect. They have read, understood, and believed in the everlasting gospel. It is God's army of redeemed souls and spirits from all over the world. They, led by the Two Witnesses of Rev.11.3, will fight the powers of Satan with the invincible power of God's spirit.

Hope that helps.

God Bless you,
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 Quoting: Eliyahu 25138716


Dear Eliyahu,

I felt the need to comment on this as I came across that particular website on my journey for truth. Scripture clearly indicates that the Two Witnesses of Rev.11.3 are individuals.

Mat 20:20-23
20 Then came to him the mother of Zebedees children with her sons, worshipping him, and desiring a certain thing of him.

21 And he said unto her, What wilt thou? She saith unto him, Grant that these my two sons may sit, the one on thy right hand, and the other on the left, in thy kingdom.

22 But Jesus answered and said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and to be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with? They say unto him, We are able.

23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.

Historically, they are Joshua and Zerubbabel, read Zechariah 4.

May God Bless you on your quest for truth,
RockyMtnLady
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Hi RML,
Do you mind commenting on the 144,000 please.
The way they are soken of in the above link is very interesting.
Many thanks!
One Love,
D.
 Quoting: ExploringTheTruth


Hi D.,

The sealing of the 144,000 is occurring now. They are God's elect. They have read, understood, and believed in the everlasting gospel. It is God's army of redeemed souls and spirits from all over the world. They, led by the Two Witnesses of Rev.11.3, will fight the powers of Satan with the invincible power of God's spirit.

Hope that helps.

God Bless you,
RockyMtnLady
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Very much, thank you.

One Love
D.
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I have never called you "old" or young. I have my thoughts about your age because of your writing style but I would never use the word "old" in an insult to you.

"The Branch refers to Yeshua the Messiah you clown and nowhere does that refer to the two witnesses."

"O Jehovah, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Jehovah, revive thy work IN THE MIDST OF THE YEARS; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy." (Hab 3:2 ASV)

This aligns with Zech 11:14, where we read that the Lord cuts asunder his staff BANDS. Since the first staff Beauty in Zech 11:10 is Jesus, everybody ought to know that Bands comes in the NT time, namely in the midst of NT time according to Hab 3:2. He thus also is the BRANCH that comes out of the roots of the SHOOT, who is Jesus in Isa 11:1.

The branch, who is called BANDS, is the one foretold in Rev 20:1, for he starts what Jesus talks about in Matt 19:28. That time and day is the day of vengeance, and God's people partake of it, as you can see from Psalm 149. That day is also the acceptable year, for on it takes REGENERATION place (Matt 19:28).

Therefore, the BRANCH is the Man-child, you foolish person.

RockyMtnLady

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"I have never called you "old" or young. I have my thoughts about your age because of your writing style but I would never use the word "old" in an insult to you."

Did I say you did? So, why are you afraid to tell us my age and display your superior 'discernment'? We are waiting or are you afraid? lol so much fail.


"O Jehovah, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Jehovah, revive thy work IN THE MIDST OF THE YEARS; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy." (Hab 3:2 ASV)

This aligns with Zech 11:14, where we read that the Lord cuts asunder his staff BANDS. Since the first staff Beauty in Zech 11:10 is Jesus, everybody ought to know that Bands comes in the NT time, namely in the midst of NT time according to Hab 3:2. He thus also is the BRANCH that comes out of the roots of the SHOOT, who is Jesus in Isa 11:1.

The branch, who is called BANDS, is the one foretold in Rev 20:1, for he starts what Jesus talks about in Matt 19:28. That time and day is the day of vengeance, and God's people partake of it, as you can see from Psalm 149. That day is also the acceptable year, for on it takes REGENERATION place (Matt 19:28).

Therefore, the BRANCH is the Man-child, you foolish person.


Why do you think I give a shit about your false interpretations? That is simply your own conjecture above.


"O Jehovah, I have heard the report of thee, and am afraid: O Jehovah, revive thy work IN THE MIDST OF THE YEARS; In the midst of the years make it known; In wrath remember mercy." (Hab 3:2 ASV)"

Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel. Zechariah 11:14

How the hell does that have anything to do with Zachariah? You make no sense.

And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people. Zachariah 11:10

How does that refer to Yeshua?

Isaiah 11:1

King James Version (KJV)

11 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

As I said, the Branch is Yeshua the Messiah who comes from the seed of Jesse, the seed of David.

"The branch, who is called BANDS, is the one foretold in Rev 20:1, for he starts what Jesus talks about in Matt 19:28. That time and day is the day of vengeance, and God's people partake of it, as you can see from Psalm 149. That day is also the acceptable year, for on it takes REGENERATION place (Matt 19:28).

Therefore, the BRANCH is the Man-child, you foolish person."

No, the branch is called the branch, NOT the bands. Yeshua is the Man-Child you ignoramus. Damn I get tired of your simple nonsense. Stop wasting my time with your ignorant conjecture and false interpretations.
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This was written by PJ some time back and will help all those seek the truth see the grave misstep that Ireland has made (go figure!)


"Dear people, all of you who love the truth,

Let nobody deceive you by twisting the scriptures about the Branch, about which you can read in Isa 11:1.

Jesus Christ is the rod out of the stem of Jesse, whereas the Branch is the servant of God who is foretold in Zech 6:12-13:


And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD: Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.
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Branch is a certain servant of God, namely the man child in Rev 12:5, for he grows out of the roots of the rod (Jesus Christ), which means that he comes after the the true apostolic church has been ruined by the Antichrist (those many false teachers (2 Joh 7). Only the roots of the church are left, from where he comes, i.e the uncorrupted words of Holy Scripture.

Therefore, let no man deceive you, for it is important to know that Branch is the spiritual coming of Jesus Christ through a true servant, but that coming the children of Antichrist, his false teachers, try to twist into a literal coming. That is falsehood!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah"

So we see once again that Ireland is just spewing out falsehood.

RockyMtnLady
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The Branch is the Messiah you clown.

See commentaries.

Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary

11:1-9 The Messiah is called a Rod, and a Branch. The words signify a small, tender product; a shoot, such as is easily broken off. He comes forth out of the stem of Jesse; when the royal family was cut down and almost levelled with the ground, it would sprout again. The house of David was brought very low at the time of Christ's birth. The Messiah thus gave early notice that his kingdom was not of this world. But the Holy Spirit, in all his gifts and graces, shall rest and abide upon him; he shall have the fulness of the Godhead dwelling in him, Col 1:19; 2:9. Many consider that seven gifts of the Holy Spirit are here mentioned. And the doctrine of the influences of the Holy Spirit is here clearly taught. The Messiah would be just and righteous in all his government. His threatening shall be executed by the working of his Spirit according to his word. There shall be great peace and quiet under his government. The gospel changes the nature, and makes those who trampled on the meek of the earth, meek like them, and kind to them. But it shall be more fully shown in the latter days. Also Christ, the great Shepherd, shall take care of his flock, that the nature of troubles, and of death itself, shall be so changed, that they shall not do any real hurt. God's people shall be delivered, not only from evil, but from the fear of it. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? The better we know the God of love, the more shall we be changed into the same likeness, and the better disposed to all who have any likeness to him. This knowledge shall extend as the sea, so far shall it spread. And this blessed power there have been witnesses in every age of Christianity, though its most glorious time, here foretold, is not yet arrived. Meanwhile let us aim that our example and endeavours may help to promote the honour of Christ and his kingdom of peace.
Pulpit Commentary

Verses 1-9. - A RENEWED PROPHECY OF MESSIAH AND OF HIS KINGDOM. This chapter is closely connected with the preceding. With the final destruction of Assyria, which, being cut down, sends out no shoot (Isaiah 10:33, 34), is contrasted the recuperative energy of Israel, which, though equally leveled with the ground (Isaiah 9:18, 19), shall spring afresh into life, and "renew its youth." The recovery is connected - or rather identified with the coming of Messiah, whose character is beautifully portrayed (vers. 2-5). An elaborate description of Messiah's kingdom follows (vers. 6-10) - an expansion of the briefer one in Isaiah 2:3, 4. Verse 1. - There shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse. The blasted and ruined "stem" or stock of Jesse, cut down, and for ages hidden from sight, shall suddenly put forth a sprout - a young green sapling, tender vet vigorous, weak seemingly, yet foil of life (comp. Job 14:7-9, "There is hope of a tree, if it he cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not crease. Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground; yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant"). "The stem of Jesse" must mean the house of David, for there is but one Jesse (Ishai) in Scripture - David's father. A Branch shall grow out of his roots. That which is at first a sapling gains strength and grows into a "branch" (see Isaiah 4:2, where the word used, though different, is synonymous).
Gill's Exposition of the Entire Bible

And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse,.... By which is meant, not Hezekiah, as R. Moses (o) the priest, and others, since he was now born, and must be at least ten or twelve years of age; but the Messiah, as both the text and context show, and as is owned by many Jewish writers (p), ancient and modern: and he is called a "rod", either because of his unpromising appearance, arising "out of the stem of Jesse"; from him, in the line of David, when that family was like a tree cut down, and its stump only left in the ground, which was the case when Jesus was born of it: Jesse's family was at first but a mean and obscure one; it became very illustrious in David's time, and in some following reigns; from the Babylonish captivity, till the time of Christ, it was very low; and at the birth of Christ was low indeed, his supposed father being a carpenter, and his real mother Mary a poor virgin, dwelling at Nazareth; and it seemed very unlikely, under these circumstances, that he should be the King Messiah, and be so great as was foretold he should; and have that power, authority, and wisdom he had; and do such mighty works as he did; and especially be the author of eternal salvation; and bring forth such fruits, and be the cause of such blessings of grace, as he was: or else because of his kingly power and majesty, the rod or branch being put for a sceptre, and so a symbol of that; to which the Targum agrees, paraphrasing the words thus,

"and a King shall come forth from the sons of Jesse:''

and the sense is, that though Jesse's or David's family should be brought so very low as to be as the stem or stump of a tree, without a body, branches, leaves, and fruit; yet from thence should arise a mighty King, even the King Messiah, who is spoken of by so many august names and titles, Isaiah 9:6 and this is observed for the comfort of the people of Israel, when distressed by the Assyrians, as in the preceding chapter Isaiah 10:1; when those high ones, comparable to the loftiest cedars in Lebanon, and to the tallest trees in the forest, should be hewn down, a rod should come out of Jesse's stem, which should rise higher, and spread more than ever they did:

and a branch shall grow out of his roots; the roots of Jesse, out of his family, compared to the stump of a tree; meaning either his ancestors, as Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Judah, Boaz, and Obed; or his posterity, as David, Joseph, and Mary; and so the Targum,

"and the Messiah shall be anointed (or exalted) from his children's children.''

The branch is a well known name of the Messiah; See Gill on Isaiah 4:2 the word Netzer, here used, is the name of the city of Nazareth (q); which perhaps was so called, from the trees, plants, and grass, which grew here; and so our Lord's dwelling here fulfilled a prophecy, that he should be called a Nazarene; or an inhabitant of Netzer, Matthew 2:23. The Jews (r) speak of one Ben Netzer, who they say was a robber, took cities, and reigned over them, and became the head of robbers; and make (s) him to be the little horn in Daniel 7:8 and wickedly and maliciously say (t) he was Jesus; and yet, under all this wickedness, they tacitly own that Jesus of Nazareth is the Netzer this prophecy speaks of; the design of which is to show the meanness of Christ's descent as man, and that he should be as a root out of a dry ground, Isaiah 53:2 or rather as a rod and branch out of a dry root.

(o) Apud Aben Ezra in loc. (p) Bereshit Rabba, sect. 85. fol. 75. 1. Midrash Tillim in Psal. lxxii. 1. Apud Yalkut Simeoni, par. 2. fol. 112. 2. Abarbinel, Mashmia Jeshua, fol. 8. 4. Aben Ezra, Jarchi, & Kimchi, in loc. Nachman. Disputat. cum Fratre Paulo, p. 53. (q) David de Pomis Lexic. p. 141. (r) T. Bab. Cetubot, fol. 51. 2. & Gloss. in ib. (s) Bereshit Rabba, sect. 76. fol. 67. 2.((t) Abarbinel in Daniel 7.8. fol. 44. 1.
Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary

CHAPTER 11

Isa 11:1-16.

From the local and temporary national deliverance the prophet passes by the law of suggestion in an easy transition to the end of all prophecy—the everlasting deliverance under Messiah's reign, not merely His first coming, but chiefly His second coming. The language and illustrations are still drawn from the temporary national subject, with which he began, but the glories described pertain to Messiah's reign. Hezekiah cannot, as some think, be the subject; for he was already come, whereas the "stem of Jesse" was yet future ("shall come") (compare Mic 4:11, &c.; 5:1, 2; Jer 23:5, 6; 33:15, 16; Ro 15:12).

1. rod—When the proud "boughs" of "Lebanon" (Isa 10:33, 34, the Assyrians) are lopped, and the vast "forests cut down" amidst all this rage, a seemingly humble rod shall come out of Jesse (Messiah), who shall retrieve the injuries done by the Assyrian "rod" to Israel (Isa 10:5, 6, 18, 19).

stem—literally, "the stump" of a tree cut close by the roots: happily expressing the depressed state of the royal house of David, owing to the hostile storm (Isa 10:18, 19), when Messiah should arise from it, to raise it to more than its pristine glory. Lu 2:7 proves this (Isa 53:2; compare Job 14:7, 8; see on [704]Isa 8:6).

Branch—Scion. He is nevertheless also the "root" (Isa 11:10; Re 5:5; 22:16. "Root and offspring" combines both, Zec 3:8; 6:12).

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You are the one spewing false teachings. You fail badly. I find it amusing how you use a false prophet/teacher to validate yourself.
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Dear people, you who seek the truth,

Let me tell you that Matthew Henry is totally wrong in saying that the Branch is the Messiah, for Messiah himself has never been called a branch in Scripture, only those who believes in Him.

Let us look closer at what Isa 11:1 indeed says:

And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
 Quoting: The Bible


First of all, there are different words used in the Hebrew text for "a rod" and "a branch" that show the difference.

The Hebrew 'Hooter' ("rod" in English) means 'branch' or 'twig', whereas the Hebrew 'netser' ("branch" in English) means 'sprout' or 'shoot', which shows that the "rod" and the "branch" are of different thicknesses.

Secondly, since the 'Hooter' (rod), which is the first one to come, comes forth out of the "stem of Jesse" it makes no sense to go on saying that the 'Hoter' is then to come as "netser" but this time from the roots of Jesse.

The Hebrew word for "from his roots", 'mishshaaraashaw' does definitely not refer to Jesse, for in that case the figure of speech would be illogical. It would in that case mean that the branch would come before there was a stem to come forth from, for what comes from the roots belongs not to the stem. The whole chronology of the picture of the tree and its stem would in that case be nonsensical.

Therefore, Jesus, who is the 'Hoter' (branch of the stem of Jesse) is foretold to be cut off also in Isa 11:1 as he is in Dan 9:26, as you all can see when you read the verse:

And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
 Quoting: The Bible


When a tree is cut off as Jesus was, the true olive tree, there remained just roots. But roots are not seen, so Dan 9:26 therefore says "and shall have nothing".

Everybody should now see clearly that when the 'netser' (shoot) comes out of the roots it comes out of the roots of Messiah ('Hoter'), who was cut off, and not from the roots of Jesse.

I will now ask in what manner can Messiah according to Scripture come from His own roots? The next problem for those who twist Isa 11:1 is to tell how and why the olive tree Jesus Christ should come reduced as a branch ('netser') instead of as the olive tree He is?

Your battle is lost, you twisters of Isa 11:1, and
RML is right in what she says!

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Dear people,

Just think of this insult made to God Almighty by the charlatan from Ireland, who claims that Jesus Christ, who is God Himself, is according to Isa 11:2 just a Branch!

Being a branch means that there is somebody greater, who is the stem, so this poor idiot from Ireland is challenging God in saying that there is somebody even greater, God Himself being only a Branch!

What an idiot he is, so let him be, for I, the true witness of God, has already given him over to Satan!

The devils are just desperately mad! Hahahhahaha!

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