Quoting: waterman Quoting: PehJeshuah 27455920 Quoting: waterman
Hello again, waterman, Quoting: PehJeshuah 27455920
So you dare go on propagating your stupidity and ignorance of the true contents of the book of Revelation? Well then, let us look at what you say and weigh it in the scales of truth. You quote Rev 12 and ask:
At least, there is one evident thing that has tremendous impact on your question, namely the fact that ever since it came the book of Revelation foretells things to happen and not things that had already happened when it was given to the servants of God. That is what is written in Rev 1:1, so it cannot be denied. Therefore, the woman who gives birth to the man child in Rev 12:5 is definitely not Mary, the woman who gave birth to Jesus, our Saviour.
You ought to read Scripture in humility and prayers to God, that He show you the truth, instead of contradicting His words. Your claim that the woman in Rev 12 is USA is just ridiculous rubbish, for while USA has 50 stars this woman has only 12 stars. USA has never, spiritually speaking, had the moon "under her feet", nor been "clothed with the sun". While the woman in Rev is being protected and will finally return to "her place" (Rev 12:14), being truthful, USA is seen to be the origin of many major false churches that spread their poison worldwide, among which are Mormonism, Christian Science, Seventh-day Adventism, and Jehovah's witnesses.
That the true witness of God will come from USA is also rubbish, for USA is in the west, where the sun sets, while the true witness of God is raised up from the north country, which is therefore called "the rising of the sun" (namely (the place of) the rising of God's truth), as can be seen when Psalm 75:6, Isa 41:25, Psalm 48:2, and Zech 6:8 are compared:
Also, in saying that God will bring Israel and Judah together you are contradicting the Bible, for in Zech 11:14 it is foretold that God will, on the contrary, "break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel" in the NT time period. These words cannot be applied to the ten tribes of historical Israel, for they are gone forever. What is called "Israel" in Zech 11:14 is in biblical prophecy the fallen-away Christianity of today.
You seem to claim that one of the two witnesses in Rev 11:3 is our Lord himself, but such a claim is downright a fallacy.
The two witnesses are foretold to sit on either side of Jesus Christ, so you are totally wrong. Read the following text in the Bible and become convinced that I tell you the truth!
Pay heed to the truth that I tell you in order that God may heal you, or, else, accept the mark of the beast!
The two houses of Israel will be joined together again that is why the bible says "all of Israel" will be saved. The last day servant brings those two houses together and it shows it in Ezekiel 37:
11 Then he said unto me, Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel
: behold, they say, Our bones are dried, and our hope is lost: we are cut off for our parts.
12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,
14 And shall put my spirit in you, and ye shall live, and I shall place you in your own land: then shall ye know that I the Lord have spoken it, and performed it, saith the Lord.
15 The word of the Lord came again unto me, saying,
16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?
19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations
, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.
23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwelling places, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God.
24 And David my servant shall be king over them
; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them.
25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children's children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever.
The words that you quote in bold face letters, would you please tell what you think they mean!
It clearly shows that the two kingdoms of Israel, the northern kingdom and the southern kingdom are going to be reunited by Gods servant in the end....this hasn't happened yet so we know it is an end time event..God will not just abandon 10 tribes(man would say "forget about them 2 is good enough) but God will save all of Israel and you can clearly see it in Ezekiel 37
In saying that the two kingdoms of Israel (in literal sense) will be reunited you contradict the Holy Scripture. Scripture clearly says that the judgment of the northern kingdom is without reprieve, as can be seen from 2 Kings 17:7-20:
For so it was, that the children of Israel had sinned against the LORD their God, which had brought them up out of the land of Egypt, from under the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and had feared other gods, And walked in the statutes of the heathen, whom the LORD cast out from before the children of Israel, and of the kings of Israel, which they had made. And the children of Israel did secretly those things that were not right against the LORD their God, and they built them high places in all their cities, from the tower of the watchmen to the fenced city. And they set them up images and groves in every high hill, and under every green tree: And there they burnt incense in all the high places, as did the heathen whom the LORD carried away before them; and wrought wicked things to provoke the LORD to anger: For they served idols, whereof the LORD had said unto them, Ye shall not do this thing. Yet the LORD testified against Israel, and against Judah, by all the prophets, and by all the seers, saying, Turn ye from your evil ways, and keep my commandments and my statutes, according to all the law which I commanded your fathers, and which I sent to you by my servants the prophets. Notwithstanding they would not hear, but hardened their necks, like to the neck of their fathers, that did not believe in the LORD their God. And they rejected his statutes, and his covenant that he made with their fathers, and his testimonies which he testified against them; and they followed vanity, and became vain, and went after the heathen that were round about them, concerning whom the LORD had charged them, that they should not do like them. And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal. And they caused their sons and their daughters to pass through the fire, and used divination and enchantments, and sold themselves to do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger. Therefore the LORD was very angry with Israel, and removed them out of his sight: there was none left
but the tribe of Judah only. Also Judah kept not the commandments of the LORD their God, but walked in the statutes of Israel which they made. And the LORD rejected all the seed of Israel, and afflicted them, and delivered them into the hand spoilers, until he had cast them out of his sight.
The conclusion is: When NONE is left there is also NONE left ever to return!
Being removed out of the sight of God is an eternal judgment beyond reparation.
It is therefore twisting of Scripture to say that the northern kingdom of Israel will be reunited with Judah, also because in Zech 11:14 it is said, on the contrary, that God will break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
Why do you fight against Scripture?