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Message Subject I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!
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You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse! No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others! You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble. For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced. Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them! They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another! These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him. Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others! In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418


Hi,

I will now answer and comment on what you say:

You sir, are about as much of a true witness for my God and the Lord of Glory, as mickey mouse!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I do not claim to be a true witness for YOUR God, it suffices that you are his witness, but I do doubt that he be the Lord of Glory. I have my reasons for that doubt!

No true witness would express such a spirit of inward hatred for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
I will ask you if you ever thought about the possibility that what you think is hatred instead is love. Would you for instance say that the following words reveal hatred (Luke 3:7) instead of love?

O generation of vipers, who hath warned you to flee from the wrath to come?
 Quoting: The Bible


And did not Paul the apostle call certain people dogs? Was he then humble and showing love? If the word hatred per se is a pertinent argument against truth, then why did David say the words you find in Psalm 139:21?

Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
 Quoting: The Bible


Would you say that David was not a true witness of God? That he was filled with hatred and therefore also not humble?

You are not in contention to prove a claim, as much as to prove a position. A true Witnesses would be humble.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Isa 57 firsts tells about the evil times of God's people, about the triumph of their enemies, and about their having been humbled, but then goes on in verses 13 through 15 to tell that the spirit of the humble and contrite will be revived and even dwell in the high and lofty place with their Lord, as the following words show us:

but he that putteth his trust in me shall possess the land, and shall inherit my holy mountain; And shall say, Cast ye up, cast ye up, prepare the way, take up the stumblingblock out of the way of my people. For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.
 Quoting: The Bible


This chapter of Isaiah shows that there will come about a great change in which the Lord will not contend for ever. Scripure tells us that He contends through His witnesses, those who have been revived and given the right to dwell in the high and holy place. Therefore, when such people speak and contend from the high but holy place their opponents will for sure hold them to be haughty people. Did you ever look at prophetic things from that perspective?

For to qualify for such a position requires a long testing time of heart, which you have obviously never experienced.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Well, read Isa 57 and pay special attention to these words "I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit. But why do you mean that you are in the position to know what I have experienced? Is not that downright haughtiness on your part?

Neither of the Two Witnesses are yet made perfected to fulfill that office, much less make a claim to it! These two men will seek to avoid these positions, not boast of them!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
So you are now telling us here on GLP that you know what or who the two witnesses of Rev 11:3 are or will be? If you knew, which you definitely do not, you would also understand the secret of Dan 8:13-14:

Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.
 Quoting: The Bible


How would you for instance explain the seemingly different answers given basically to the same question in Dan 8:14 and Dan 12:7, which one of the two witnesses asks? Show us now that know about these things in your humbleness while I do not in my haughtiness!

They will not seek to manifest their position to threaten, defend their selfish purpose, or seek to belittle another!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When your Mickey Mouse speaks there is no threat and death in his world but I say to you that when the true two witnesses speak there will be a division between life and death, for with their testimony comes the "hour of temptation" (Rev 3:10), which means that Satan will do his utmost to prevent people from understanding and believing their everlasting gospel. Whoever speaks against them defends his own selfish purpose, and in doing so he also belittles himself and bears himself the responsibility for it.

These type of things would be of those who boast of false humility. To those who leave others with the impression of authority that has never been granted to them by the Master of the souls of those who truly belong to him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
What things do you mean? I would recommend that you read Psalm 149 and tell us what honour is meant in Psalm 149:9, and given to who for what purpose? Scripture is authority and cannot be ignored!

Sir, I suggest you go on a long journey or a short one and find this kind Master, and learn the try ways of gratitude, and humility! For the blood has been shed as much for you as for others!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
When you speak of your overly kind Master you seem to have quite a different Lord than David had, for he said this about his Lord (Psalm 7:11):

God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked EVERY DAY.
 Quoting: The Bible


God is angry all the time, for He is a consuming fire!

In service to him for nearly four decades; I have never seen such a boastful attitude to a claim, of one who would ever claim, in this manner to be one of those, of that commission. Good journey little brother!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347


My answer:
Whom have you served for four decades since you still are so ignorant of the most fundamental truths in Scripture, both of the true gospel (the song of the Lamb) and of the law (the song of Moses)? Let alone the prophecies!

One last question: Do you believe that the true two witnesses of Rev 11:3 should be polite and subservient (humble) to those who propagate false doctrine on earth today?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22728347
The propagation of false doctrine on earth is not something that can be established by your determination. Because, I have not observed any given authority, exampled through any insight, on your part.

You are using examples of God's Word to manipulate any situation that might prove favorable on your behalf. Nevertheless, you take the subject matter out of the way to prove what is not the true example. We are not talking about David's enemies here, but your own self induced foes! So substituting the Word on behalf of yourself in defense of David's claim; is like speaking on behalf of another with no objections from that source, because of his absence! Anyone with any insight could see this strategy is not in defense of the Word, but simply the claim to prove one's inability to project a reasonable argument against a scriptural sound commentary, by other individuals!

In the finally analysis, my friend. I do not see any enemy here on this thread. Only those who desire to express a different opinion then yours. Yet, you classified such as your enemies, equal with the foes David had to contend with. Sorry, I am not buying it. Opinions of others are not foes to the truth, but insights of other possibilities of the mysteries of God's Word not yet discovered!

The times of the numbers are of those effects within those two witnesses, that appeared on that day of Daniel's vision. To know the birth of the day of Enoch, reveals the mysteries of the days spoken. For as it is stated (2Enoch), I died on the same day I was born (paraphrased). Seeing as how Enoch had not yet at that time reached the point of death, it only stands to reason that he is speaking of himself, at a future date, for Enoch has not yet died! So, therefore, that witness, will know of those meanings and the time of those numbers. For the birth and the death of both happenings correspond with the days of that event, the day of the death of the two witnesses. When? On Enoch's birthday (one of the two witnesses). However, this will not cause the celebration of those two deaths, by evil men, but the three and 1/2 days leads up to that celebration, of that only timed year, to line up exactly, with that day of birth! So in the midst of their celebration shall their ascension appear! Then afterwards, comes that 30 days for that evil one who harmed God's servants, to be complete. Then that 45 days of respite before the coming forth of Jesus' 2nd appearing, before the eyes of all. Then shall be the completion of the fruit and the ripeness of the fig thereof.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2783420


Enoch is not one of the of the two witnesses of 11.3, nor is Elijah, or Moses. People who believe this false teaching are oblivious of the fact that once a person, also the Old Testament prophets who are included in Heb 11:39-40, have passed into another existence they will no more come back to participate in what happens under the sun. That is clearly said in Eccl 9:5-6.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: waterman


This thread is clearly all about 2 people seeking a position, even if they have to stomp on Jesus and his followers to get to it and anybody who disagrees with these two people being the two witnesses they will not be tolerated

The real two witnesses themselves could tell you that you were wrong and you would throw rocks at them

Have a good time seeking your positions tell each other we all said "hello", because that is your whole audience
Amen!
 
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