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I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

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You will burn norway, that much is certain. I am glad. God hates false Prophets. Here, just for you.



Deu 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

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You are right but without yourself knowing why!

Read Isa 14:29:

Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.
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and realize that the two witnesses of Rev 11:3 are fiery flying serpents. So, you are right, they burn!

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You will burn norway, that much is certain. I am glad. God hates false Prophets. Here, just for you.



Deu 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40610722


You are right but without yourself knowing why!

Read Isa 14:29:

Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.
 Quoting: The Bible


and realize that the two witnesses of Rev 11:3 are fiery flying serpents. So, you are right, they burn!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418


Let me expound the spiritual meaning of Isa 14:29 for you.

What is called "whole Palestina" symbolizes falsehood in its entirety. Since the true apostolic church was overcome by the beast in Rev 13, the rod of righteousness was broken, and in its place came the rule of unrighteousness, which Scripture calls the Antichrist.

Unrighteousness in its entirety is the mountain mentioned in Dan 2:45, which is the serpent's (the devils root). So, therefore, the stone that was cut out of that mountain without hands is the cockatrice in Isa 14:29. In Rev 12:5 he is called a man child. That stone will finally fill the whole earth, but it begins with the fiery flying snakes that follows him, so that is why they are the two witnesses of Rev 11:3. In Hab 3:4 the two witnesses are called "two horns" in the Lord's hand.

I hope you now see the true spiritual meaning of Isa 14:29, which relates to our times!

May God help you!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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The Irish A. Coward has been banned [or he's realised what a fool he really is & too embarrassed to show his face] PehJeshuah. Maybe he found his pills. haha.
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All,

The Lord has deposited in my heart to post these Scriptures about the Mark of the Beast.

Revelation 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Exodus 13:9 (NASB)
9 And it shall serve as a sign to you on your hand, and as a reminder on your forehead, that the law of the Lord may be in your mouth; for with a powerful hand the Lord brought you out of Egypt.

Exodus 13:16 (NRSV)
16 It shall serve as a sign on your hand and as an emblem on your forehead that by strength of hand the Lord brought us out of Egypt.

Deuteronomy 6:8 (NRSV)
8 Bind them as a sign on your hand, fix them as an emblem on your forehead,

Deuteronomy 11:18 (NRSV)
18 You shall put these words of mine in your heart and soul, and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and fix them as an emblem on your forehead.

In short, it is a spiritual mark, which exposes the hearts and minds of those receiving it. It shows to whom they willingly give their allegiance. Who do you have allegiance to? False doctrine, false Christianity or the everlasting gospel , truth and God Almighty?

God Bless you all,
RockyMtnLady
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All,

The Lord has deposited in my heart to post these Scriptures about the Mark of the Beast.

Revelation 13:16
And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Exodus 13:9 (NASB)
9 And it shall serve as a sign to you on your hand, and as a reminder on your forehead, that the law of the Lord may be in your mouth; for with a powerful hand the Lord brought you out of Egypt.

Exodus 13:16 (NRSV)
16 It shall serve as a sign on your hand and as an emblem on your forehead that by strength of hand the Lord brought us out of Egypt.

Deuteronomy 6:8 (NRSV)
8 Bind them as a sign on your hand, fix them as an emblem on your forehead,

Deuteronomy 11:18 (NRSV)
18 You shall put these words of mine in your heart and soul, and you shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and fix them as an emblem on your forehead.

In short, it is a spiritual mark, which exposes the hearts and minds of those receiving it. It shows to whom they willingly give their allegiance. Who do you have allegiance to? False doctrine, false Christianity or the everlasting gospel , truth and God Almighty?

God Bless you all,
RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2783420


What you say is very important to keep in mind, for today there are many who falsely teach for instance that the mark of the beast will be a chip put on peoples' foreheads to control them.

Your insight opens the door for people also to understand what "buying" and "selling" mean in Rev 13:17, especially when they compare with what Jesus says in Rev 3:18.

In this manner the true spiritual light is now breaking forth for all people to see without having to pay for it. What is received for free is also given for free by our God.

Thank you!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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The Irish A. Coward has been banned [or he's realised what a fool he really is & too embarrassed to show his face] PehJeshuah. Maybe he found his pills. haha.
 Quoting: paul777


I don't know about his being banned, but what I do know is that the questions I put to him and his answers to them brought him into big trouble out of which he could not extricate himself. But that I had said to hime beforehand, as I knew from 2 Cor 10:4:

(For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds;) 5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;
 Quoting: The Bible


As regards me, I always become sad when I see that people cannot be convinced by scriptures regardless of how faithfully they are being referred to the Word of God.

To lose a soul over to fallacies is a defeat to me, in spite of what that soul has said or done, for he or she is blinded by the deception that the Antichrist brought onto the foundation of Christendom in order to kill and destroy.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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:red_heart:
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:red_heart:
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Fag. lmao
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:red_heart:
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Fag. lmao
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Can't help but notice so much hatred coming from Ireland. Is it something in the water there?

1 John 4:20 ESV
If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.

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:red_heart:
 Quoting: Xeno00000


Fag. lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40702767


Can't help but notice so much hatred coming from Ireland. Is it something in the water there?

1 John 4:20 ESV
If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.

RockyMtnLady
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The Irish are usually lovely people. Irish A Coward is the exception. What a horrible hate-filled intolerant pitiful creature who probably resembles Golum from Lord of the Rings.
One can imagine the spittle flying from the corners of his mouth as he types his bilious rage.

He imagines the Divine as a negative being just waiting for His creation to mess up so he can smite us all.
The pathetic thing is is that Irish A. Coward thinks he'll be rewarded for his foul abuse. Pathetic little man he is.
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...


:red_heart:
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Fag. lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40702767


Can't help but notice so much hatred coming from Ireland. Is it something in the water there?

1 John 4:20 ESV
If anyone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for he who does not love his brother whom he has seen cannot love God whom he has not seen.

RockyMtnLady
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2783420


The Irish are usually lovely people. Irish A Coward is the exception. What a horrible hate-filled intolerant pitiful creature who probably resembles Golum from Lord of the Rings.
One can imagine the spittle flying from the corners of his mouth as he types his bilious rage.

He imagines the Divine as a negative being just waiting for His creation to mess up so he can smite us all.
The pathetic thing is is that Irish A. Coward thinks he'll be rewarded for his foul abuse. Pathetic little man he is.
 Quoting: paul777


I agree that the Irish are lovely people. I certainly didn't mean to imply that all Irish people are like that. Thank you for making the clarification. There have just been a few who are obnoxious on this particular thread.

LOL. "Golum from Lord of the Rings." That is funny.

RockyMtnLady
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Yeah the Irish A. Coward gets banned for his foul obnoxious abuse & just gets around it with a new ID. Same stench different ID, RMLady :)
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With all due respect RMLady, even biblical scholars agree that the bible is historically inaccurate.
The bible wasn't put together until the 4th century.
Revelations is a direct copy of the Sibylline books only with the names changed written by Herophile [circa 500 bce]
The bible is based on Druidic, pagan & Hindu scriptures.
The name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna' & was not to be found in Eastern bibles until recently.
I too was a christian until I researched the history of the church & the bible. There are over 14,800 major changes or 'mistranslations' [like changing 'adversary' to 'devil' for instance] from the 1st recognised bible [Sinai] & the KJV.
If your at all interested read 'The Bible Fraud' or 'The Crucifixion of Truth' both by Tony Bushby.
If the bible gives you peace & comfort then good luck to you. I'm not looking for a biblical debate, I know where your coming from now you know mine :)
There is much truth to be found in the bible but there is much manipulative deception as well.
Blind faith equates to willful ignorance. I prefer a higher understanding.

Peace :)
"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us"
Pope Leo X [1513-1521]
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With all due respect RMLady, even biblical scholars agree that the bible is historically inaccurate.
The bible wasn't put together until the 4th century.
Revelations is a direct copy of the Sibylline books only with the names changed written by Herophile [circa 500 bce]
The bible is based on Druidic, pagan & Hindu scriptures.
The name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna' & was not to be found in Eastern bibles until recently.
I too was a christian until I researched the history of the church & the bible. There are over 14,800 major changes or 'mistranslations' [like changing 'adversary' to 'devil' for instance] from the 1st recognised bible [Sinai] & the KJV.
If your at all interested read 'The Bible Fraud' or 'The Crucifixion of Truth' both by Tony Bushby.
If the bible gives you peace & comfort then good luck to you. I'm not looking for a biblical debate, I know where your coming from now you know mine :)
There is much truth to be found in the bible but there is much manipulative deception as well.
Blind faith equates to willful ignorance. I prefer a higher understanding.

Peace :)
 Quoting: paul777


Fair enough. We can agree to disagree :-) but not without me leaving a Scripture behind :-)

2 Timothy 3:14
But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have become convinced of, because you know those from whom you learned it,and how from infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus.

I realize it may not resonate with you but perhaps it will for someone else.

Have a good night....
RockyMtnLady
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With all due respect RMLady, even biblical scholars agree that the bible is historically inaccurate.
The bible wasn't put together until the 4th century.
Revelations is a direct copy of the Sibylline books only with the names changed written by Herophile [circa 500 bce]
The bible is based on Druidic, pagan & Hindu scriptures.
The name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'
& was not to be found in Eastern bibles until recently.
I too was a christian until I researched the history of the church & the bible. There are over 14,800 major changes or 'mistranslations' [like changing 'adversary' to 'devil' for instance] from the 1st recognised bible [Sinai] & the KJV.
If your at all interested read 'The Bible Fraud' or 'The Crucifixion of Truth' both by Tony Bushby.
If the bible gives you peace & comfort then good luck to you. I'm not looking for a biblical debate, I know where your coming from now you know mine :)
There is much truth to be found in the bible but there is much manipulative deception as well.
Blind faith equates to willful ignorance. I prefer a higher understanding.

Peace :)
 Quoting: paul777


Hello Paul777,

It would be interesting to hear why you say that the "Revelations" (I suppose you mean "the book of Revelation") is a direct copy of the Sibylline books (and you sure know there are also Sibylline Oracles) only with the names changed written by Herophile (circa 500 bce)?

In Rev 1:1 we read that the book contains "the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him" etc., so according to this book the author of its contents is God Himself.

The next question I would like to ask why you say that the name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'? As far as I know Christ is derived from a Greek verb meaning 'to anoint', which itself is a translation from 'mashach' in biblical Hebrew. Look up [link to biblesuite.com]

Well, these were my questions since I do not agree with you.

Thank you!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

PS. I have the Sibylline books and can chech your referances if you give them to me in order to show me what is copied in the book of Revelation.
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With all due respect RMLady, even biblical scholars agree that the bible is historically inaccurate.
The bible wasn't put together until the 4th century.
Revelations is a direct copy of the Sibylline books only with the names changed written by Herophile [circa 500 bce]
The bible is based on Druidic, pagan & Hindu scriptures.
The name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'
& was not to be found in Eastern bibles until recently.
I too was a christian until I researched the history of the church & the bible. There are over 14,800 major changes or 'mistranslations' [like changing 'adversary' to 'devil' for instance] from the 1st recognised bible [Sinai] & the KJV.
If your at all interested read 'The Bible Fraud' or 'The Crucifixion of Truth' both by Tony Bushby.
If the bible gives you peace & comfort then good luck to you. I'm not looking for a biblical debate, I know where your coming from now you know mine :)
There is much truth to be found in the bible but there is much manipulative deception as well.
Blind faith equates to willful ignorance. I prefer a higher understanding.

Peace :)
 Quoting: paul777


Hello Paul777,

It would be interesting to hear why you say that the "Revelations" (I suppose you mean "the book of Revelation") is a direct copy of the Sibylline books (and you sure know there are also Sibylline Oracles) only with the names changed written by Herophile (circa 500 bce)?

In Rev 1:1 we read that the book contains "the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him" etc., so according to this book the author of its contents is God Himself.

The next question I would like to ask why you say that the name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'? As far as I know Christ is derived from a Greek verb meaning 'to anoint', which itself is a translation from 'mashach' in biblical Hebrew. Look up [link to biblesuite.com]

Well, these were my questions since I do not agree with you.

Thank you!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

PS. I have the Sibylline books and can chech your referances if you give them to me in order to show me what is copied in the book of Revelation.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418

Greetings PehJeshuah, firstly how nice it is to converse with someone with an opposing point of view like civilised beings [& that includes you RMLady :) ].
I will have to get back to you on your questions later tonight when I have time to look up my reference material.

I'm a big believer in being responsible for one's own beliefs & understanding, so rather than getting into long theological debate I prefer [for sanitys sake] to point others to my source of reference because most people who are religious rely on endless quotes to prove their argument rather than trying to learn something new.
You seem rather well read so I'm sure you'd find 'The Bible Fraud' & 'The Crucifixion of Truth' by Tony Bushby [www.joshuabooks.com -publishers] most interesting. Both are extensively researched from historical records & church archives.
I will get back to you & answer your question as best I can later this evening.
Paul777 :)
"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us"
Pope Leo X [1513-1521]
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With all due respect RMLady, even biblical scholars agree that the bible is historically inaccurate.
The bible wasn't put together until the 4th century.
Revelations is a direct copy of the Sibylline books only with the names changed written by Herophile [circa 500 bce]
The bible is based on Druidic, pagan & Hindu scriptures.
The name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'
& was not to be found in Eastern bibles until recently.
I too was a christian until I researched the history of the church & the bible. There are over 14,800 major changes or 'mistranslations' [like changing 'adversary' to 'devil' for instance] from the 1st recognised bible [Sinai] & the KJV.
If your at all interested read 'The Bible Fraud' or 'The Crucifixion of Truth' both by Tony Bushby.
If the bible gives you peace & comfort then good luck to you. I'm not looking for a biblical debate, I know where your coming from now you know mine :)
There is much truth to be found in the bible but there is much manipulative deception as well.
Blind faith equates to willful ignorance. I prefer a higher understanding.

Peace :)
 Quoting: paul777


Hello Paul777,

It would be interesting to hear why you say that the "Revelations" (I suppose you mean "the book of Revelation") is a direct copy of the Sibylline books (and you sure know there are also Sibylline Oracles) only with the names changed written by Herophile (circa 500 bce)?

In Rev 1:1 we read that the book contains "the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him" etc., so according to this book the author of its contents is God Himself.

The next question I would like to ask why you say that the name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'? As far as I know Christ is derived from a Greek verb meaning 'to anoint', which itself is a translation from 'mashach' in biblical Hebrew. Look up [link to biblesuite.com]

Well, these were my questions since I do not agree with you.

Thank you!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

PS. I have the Sibylline books and can chech your referances if you give them to me in order to show me what is copied in the book of Revelation.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418

Greetings PehJeshuah, firstly how nice it is to converse with someone with an opposing point of view like civilised beings [& that includes you RMLady :) ].
I will have to get back to you on your questions later tonight when I have time to look up my reference material.

I'm a big believer in being responsible for one's own beliefs & understanding, so rather than getting into long theological debate I prefer [for sanitys sake] to point others to my source of reference because most people who are religious rely on endless quotes to prove their argument rather than trying to learn something new.
You seem rather well read so I'm sure you'd find 'The Bible Fraud' & 'The Crucifixion of Truth' by Tony Bushby [www.joshuabooks.com -publishers] most interesting. Both are extensively researched from historical records & church archives.
I will get back to you & answer your question as best I can later this evening.
Paul777 :)
 Quoting: paul777


Thank you, Paul777,

Nice to hear from you with mutual respect! :)

All the best!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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With all due respect RMLady, even biblical scholars agree that the bible is historically inaccurate.
The bible wasn't put together until the 4th century.
Revelations is a direct copy of the Sibylline books only with the names changed written by Herophile [circa 500 bce]
The bible is based on Druidic, pagan & Hindu scriptures.
The name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'
& was not to be found in Eastern bibles until recently.
I too was a christian until I researched the history of the church & the bible. There are over 14,800 major changes or 'mistranslations' [like changing 'adversary' to 'devil' for instance] from the 1st recognised bible [Sinai] & the KJV.
If your at all interested read 'The Bible Fraud' or 'The Crucifixion of Truth' both by Tony Bushby.
If the bible gives you peace & comfort then good luck to you. I'm not looking for a biblical debate, I know where your coming from now you know mine :)
There is much truth to be found in the bible but there is much manipulative deception as well.
Blind faith equates to willful ignorance. I prefer a higher understanding.

Peace :)
 Quoting: paul777


Hello Paul777,

It would be interesting to hear why you say that the "Revelations" (I suppose you mean "the book of Revelation") is a direct copy of the Sibylline books (and you sure know there are also Sibylline Oracles) only with the names changed written by Herophile (circa 500 bce)?

In Rev 1:1 we read that the book contains "the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him" etc., so according to this book the author of its contents is God Himself.

The next question I would like to ask why you say that the name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'? As far as I know Christ is derived from a Greek verb meaning 'to anoint', which itself is a translation from 'mashach' in biblical Hebrew. Look up [link to biblesuite.com]

Well, these were my questions since I do not agree with you.

Thank you!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

PS. I have the Sibylline books and can chech your referances if you give them to me in order to show me what is copied in the book of Revelation.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418

Greetings PehJeshuah, firstly how nice it is to converse with someone with an opposing point of view like civilised beings [& that includes you RMLady :) ].
I will have to get back to you on your questions later tonight when I have time to look up my reference material.

I'm a big believer in being responsible for one's own beliefs & understanding, so rather than getting into long theological debate I prefer [for sanitys sake] to point others to my source of reference because most people who are religious rely on endless quotes to prove their argument rather than trying to learn something new.
You seem rather well read so I'm sure you'd find 'The Bible Fraud' & 'The Crucifixion of Truth' by Tony Bushby [www.joshuabooks.com -publishers] most interesting. Both are extensively researched from historical records & church archives.
I will get back to you & answer your question as best I can later this evening.
Paul777 :)
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In the meantime in might be interesting for people to read what is on the following website:

www.thedevineevidence.com/sceptic_bible_fraud.html

All the best!

Greetings from
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With all due respect RMLady, even biblical scholars agree that the bible is historically inaccurate.
The bible wasn't put together until the 4th century.
Revelations is a direct copy of the Sibylline books only with the names changed written by Herophile [circa 500 bce]
The bible is based on Druidic, pagan & Hindu scriptures.
The name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'
& was not to be found in Eastern bibles until recently.
I too was a christian until I researched the history of the church & the bible. There are over 14,800 major changes or 'mistranslations' [like changing 'adversary' to 'devil' for instance] from the 1st recognised bible [Sinai] & the KJV.
If your at all interested read 'The Bible Fraud' or 'The Crucifixion of Truth' both by Tony Bushby.
If the bible gives you peace & comfort then good luck to you. I'm not looking for a biblical debate, I know where your coming from now you know mine :)
There is much truth to be found in the bible but there is much manipulative deception as well.
Blind faith equates to willful ignorance. I prefer a higher understanding.

Peace :)
 Quoting: paul777


Hello Paul777,

It would be interesting to hear why you say that the "Revelations" (I suppose you mean "the book of Revelation") is a direct copy of the Sibylline books (and you sure know there are also Sibylline Oracles) only with the names changed written by Herophile (circa 500 bce)?

In Rev 1:1 we read that the book contains "the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him" etc., so according to this book the author of its contents is God Himself.

The next question I would like to ask why you say that the name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'? As far as I know Christ is derived from a Greek verb meaning 'to anoint', which itself is a translation from 'mashach' in biblical Hebrew. Look up [link to biblesuite.com]

Well, these were my questions since I do not agree with you.

Thank you!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

PS. I have the Sibylline books and can chech your referances if you give them to me in order to show me what is copied in the book of Revelation.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418

Greetings PehJeshuah, firstly how nice it is to converse with someone with an opposing point of view like civilised beings [& that includes you RMLady :) ].
I will have to get back to you on your questions later tonight when I have time to look up my reference material.

I'm a big believer in being responsible for one's own beliefs & understanding, so rather than getting into long theological debate I prefer [for sanitys sake] to point others to my source of reference because most people who are religious rely on endless quotes to prove their argument rather than trying to learn something new.
You seem rather well read so I'm sure you'd find 'The Bible Fraud' & 'The Crucifixion of Truth' by Tony Bushby [www.joshuabooks.com -publishers] most interesting. Both are extensively researched from historical records & church archives.
I will get back to you & answer your question as best I can later this evening.
Paul777 :)
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In the meantime in might be interesting for people to read what is on the following website:

www.thedevineevidence.com/sceptic_bible_fraud.html

All the best!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418


Sorry about the web address:

The one meant is: thedivineevidence.com/index.html

where this article is:

thedevineevidence.com/sceptic_bible_fraud.html

All the best!

PehJeshuah
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Hello Paul777,

It would be interesting to hear why you say that the "Revelations" (I suppose you mean "the book of Revelation") is a direct copy of the Sibylline books (and you sure know there are also Sibylline Oracles) only with the names changed written by Herophile (circa 500 bce)?

In Rev 1:1 we read that the book contains "the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him" etc., so according to this book the author of its contents is God Himself.

The next question I would like to ask why you say that the name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'? As far as I know Christ is derived from a Greek verb meaning 'to anoint', which itself is a translation from 'mashach' in biblical Hebrew. Look up [link to biblesuite.com]

Well, these were my questions since I do not agree with you.

Thank you!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

PS. I have the Sibylline books and can chech your referances if you give them to me in order to show me what is copied in the book of Revelation.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418

Greetings PehJeshuah, firstly how nice it is to converse with someone with an opposing point of view like civilised beings [& that includes you RMLady :) ].
I will have to get back to you on your questions later tonight when I have time to look up my reference material.

I'm a big believer in being responsible for one's own beliefs & understanding, so rather than getting into long theological debate I prefer [for sanitys sake] to point others to my source of reference because most people who are religious rely on endless quotes to prove their argument rather than trying to learn something new.
You seem rather well read so I'm sure you'd find 'The Bible Fraud' & 'The Crucifixion of Truth' by Tony Bushby [www.joshuabooks.com -publishers] most interesting. Both are extensively researched from historical records & church archives.
I will get back to you & answer your question as best I can later this evening.
Paul777 :)
 Quoting: paul777


In the meantime in might be interesting for people to read what is on the following website:

www.thedevineevidence.com/sceptic_bible_fraud.html

All the best!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418


Sorry about the web address:

The one meant is: thedivineevidence.com/index.html

where this article is:

thedevineevidence.com/sceptic_bible_fraud.html

All the best!

PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418


Sorry again,

for some reason the these addresses don't work, so try this search on Google:

A Christian Review of The Bible Fraud by Tony Bushby

Good luck!

PJ
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lol seems like I struck a nerve. roflpopcorn
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As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his folly. Proverbs 26:11

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Micah 3:4


Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.
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Mat 25:12-13

But he answered and said, Verily I say unto you, I know you not. Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.
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This will be the final fate of every person who does evil!
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Micah 3:4


Then shall they cry unto the LORD, but he will not hear them: he will even hide his face from them at that time, as they have behaved themselves ill in their doings.
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1rof1 How appropriate PehJeshuah, good one! 1rof1
"How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us"
Pope Leo X [1513-1521]
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But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Revelation 21:8

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. Revelation 14:9-11


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With all due respect RMLady, even biblical scholars agree that the bible is historically inaccurate.
The bible wasn't put together until the 4th century.
Revelations is a direct copy of the Sibylline books only with the names changed written by Herophile [circa 500 bce]
The bible is based on Druidic, pagan & Hindu scriptures.
The name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'
& was not to be found in Eastern bibles until recently.
I too was a christian until I researched the history of the church & the bible. There are over 14,800 major changes or 'mistranslations' [like changing 'adversary' to 'devil' for instance] from the 1st recognised bible [Sinai] & the KJV.
If your at all interested read 'The Bible Fraud' or 'The Crucifixion of Truth' both by Tony Bushby.
If the bible gives you peace & comfort then good luck to you. I'm not looking for a biblical debate, I know where your coming from now you know mine :)
There is much truth to be found in the bible but there is much manipulative deception as well.
Blind faith equates to willful ignorance. I prefer a higher understanding.

Peace :)
 Quoting: paul777


Hello Paul777,

It would be interesting to hear why you say that the "Revelations" (I suppose you mean "the book of Revelation") is a direct copy of the Sibylline books (and you sure know there are also Sibylline Oracles) only with the names changed written by Herophile (circa 500 bce)?

In Rev 1:1 we read that the book contains "the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him" etc., so according to this book the author of its contents is God Himself.

The next question I would like to ask why you say that the name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'? As far as I know Christ is derived from a Greek verb meaning 'to anoint', which itself is a translation from 'mashach' in biblical Hebrew. Look up [link to biblesuite.com]

Well, these were my questions since I do not agree with you.

Thank you!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

PS. I have the Sibylline books and can chech your referances if you give them to me in order to show me what is copied in the book of Revelation.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418

Greetings PehJeshuah, firstly how nice it is to converse with someone with an opposing point of view like civilised beings [& that includes you RMLady :) ].
I will have to get back to you on your questions later tonight when I have time to look up my reference material.

I'm a big believer in being responsible for one's own beliefs & understanding, so rather than getting into long theological debate I prefer [for sanitys sake] to point others to my source of reference because most people who are religious rely on endless quotes to prove their argument rather than trying to learn something new.
You seem rather well read so I'm sure you'd find 'The Bible Fraud' & 'The Crucifixion of Truth' by Tony Bushby [www.joshuabooks.com -publishers] most interesting. Both are extensively researched from historical records & church archives.
I will get back to you & answer your question as best I can later this evening.
Paul777 :)
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Thank you, Paul777,

Nice to hear from you with mutual respect! :)

All the best!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418

Hey PehJeshuah,
before I attempt to address your questions, I feel the need to say this first.
Many years ago, a string of 'coincidences' appeared before me, that led me to question my religious indoctrination. Providence reared her head in the form of a Franciscan monk & an Anglican Bishop, who was a long time friend of my family, whose assertions contradicted basic Christian doctrine, in particular John 14:6.
Immediately upon searching for truth with an earnest open heart & mind, [Mathew 7:7-8] a door was opened that blew in a breath of fresh understanding & renewal. I was astounded that the lies & deceptions of 'mother church' was there for any inquiring mind in plain view.
To my astounding frustration I found that christian family & friends, people who knew me to be an honest & faithful 'servant' of the church, had no interest in hearing my new-found evidence what-so-ever. I was told in no uncertain terms that if I questioned the basic tenets of the christian faith or the churches interpretation of the Bible, I was to be considered anathema & I would not be given the opportunity to 'lead others astray'. Incredible ignorance of the worst kind.
There was little discussion, take it or leave it. My family has not spoken to me since.
In the ensuing years, experience has taught me that most christians aren't interested in debate because they have no doubt that the Bible is the 'Holy word of God', without error, & have need for no other source of Truth. That's why christians quote endless verse because that's all they know & all they wish to know.
I read your response in between my other post & this seems to be the case also with you PehJeshua [Please tell me if I'm wrong]. Rather than read 'The Bible Fraud' & make your mind up for yourself, you prefer to read the criticisms written by another christian with the same agenda, second-hand. So what's the point of debate? A christians mind is resolute & incapable of absorbing anything that contradicts doctrine. It's a complete & utter waste of time & effort on both sides. My mind is free & I recognise truth [usually] when I see it, your mind is trapped in dogmatic doctrine. Please don't think my aim is to be insulting, I'm expressing my experience, calling a spade a spade.
None-the-less, I'm only responding to your questions because your such a polite & pleasant individual but please don't expect me to be drawn into a theological debate.
Okay, the book of Revelation & the Sibylline Books. The Sibylline Oracles were 15 sets composed by presbyters & are not to be confused with the Sibylline books which were called 'The Mysteries of Osiris & Isis' by the author Herophile [circa 500 bce].
It was believed the Sibylline Books were 'possessed with the spirit of divination' & they became the 'Bible' of the Romans [Dictionary of Greek & Roman Antiquities: Sibyllini Libra]
For at least the 1st 6 centuries of the christian era, the Sibylline books held the highest religious authority in the Roman Empire & were cited regularly by early presbyters & later bishops. So highly regarded were the Sibyl's prophecies that the 4th century church usurped her 2nd book , inserted short narratives that dealt with christian characters, said it was a divine revelation given to apostle John by Jesus Christ from heaven, & included it in their New Testament.
Church records stated that Cerinthus not only restructured the Essene writing that subsequently became the Gospel of John, but also 'rewrote' the original Sibyl's prophecies to create a falsified version that was adjusted again in the 4th century when it was added to the New Testament.[Ecclesiastical History, Eusebius,ii.] Cerinthus called his forged document , 'Apocalypse', & to imply an apostolic origin from 'divine revelation' it was re-titled 'Revelation' by Emperor Justinian at the 2nd council of Constantinople in 553 CE, the same council that officially removed all references to reincarnation from the New Testament. The early church was so concerned that the general populace would learn that its Book of Revelation was a forgery that in 405 CE, the Bishop of Rome ordered Roman general Flavius Stilicho to burn as many copies of the Sibylline Books he could find. [Funk & Wagnell's New Standard Dictionary; 'Sibylline Books'; also;Encyclopedia of the Roman Empire; Mathew Bunson; 1994 page 396]. from 'The Crucifixion of Truth' by Tony Bushby.

PehJeshua, the truth is there for all to see. I'm quoting from a book that you have easy access [www.joshuapublishing.com] & if you were serious with your education you'd endeavour to acquire a copy for yourself.
I'm a terribly slow typist & this has taken some time. I'll try to respond to your other questions tomorrow.
Paul777.
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Seems to be a foul stench in the air.

Ahh there it is. The lying coward who gave his 'word' that there would be no more responses.

I'm sure you'd hate to be one of us Irish A Coward. We're happy & free of raging hatred. You do know that gross negative thought & emotions are behind most serious illness?

Oh well, we all have to die of something & I suppose your content being an ugly miserable little bastard with a mouth [& mind] like a sewer. :)
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Hello Paul777,

It would be interesting to hear why you say that the "Revelations" (I suppose you mean "the book of Revelation") is a direct copy of the Sibylline books (and you sure know there are also Sibylline Oracles) only with the names changed written by Herophile (circa 500 bce)?

In Rev 1:1 we read that the book contains "the Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave him" etc., so according to this book the author of its contents is God Himself.

The next question I would like to ask why you say that the name 'Christ' is derived from 'Krishna'? As far as I know Christ is derived from a Greek verb meaning 'to anoint', which itself is a translation from 'mashach' in biblical Hebrew. Look up [link to biblesuite.com]

Well, these were my questions since I do not agree with you.

Thank you!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

PS. I have the Sibylline books and can chech your referances if you give them to me in order to show me what is copied in the book of Revelation.
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418

Greetings PehJeshuah, firstly how nice it is to converse with someone with an opposing point of view like civilised beings [& that includes you RMLady :) ].
I will have to get back to you on your questions later tonight when I have time to look up my reference material.

I'm a big believer in being responsible for one's own beliefs & understanding, so rather than getting into long theological debate I prefer [for sanitys sake] to point others to my source of reference because most people who are religious rely on endless quotes to prove their argument rather than trying to learn something new.
You seem rather well read so I'm sure you'd find 'The Bible Fraud' & 'The Crucifixion of Truth' by Tony Bushby [www.joshuabooks.com -publishers] most interesting. Both are extensively researched from historical records & church archives.
I will get back to you & answer your question as best I can later this evening.
Paul777 :)
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Thank you, Paul777,

Nice to hear from you with mutual respect! :)

All the best!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
 Quoting: PehJeshuah 722418

Hey PehJeshuah,
before I attempt to address your questions, I feel the need to say this first.
Many years ago, a string of 'coincidences' appeared before me, that led me to question my religious indoctrination. Providence reared her head in the form of a Franciscan monk & an Anglican Bishop, who was a long time friend of my family, whose assertions contradicted basic Christian doctrine, in particular John 14:6.
Immediately upon searching for truth with an earnest open heart & mind, [Mathew 7:7-8] a door was opened that blew in a breath of fresh understanding & renewal. I was astounded that the lies & deceptions of 'mother church' was there for any inquiring mind in plain view.
To my astounding frustration I found that christian family & friends, people who knew me to be an honest & faithful 'servant' of the church, had no interest in hearing my new-found evidence what-so-ever. I was told in no uncertain terms that if I questioned the basic tenets of the christian faith or the churches interpretation of the Bible, I was to be considered anathema & I would not be given the opportunity to 'lead others astray'. Incredible ignorance of the worst kind.
There was little discussion, take it or leave it. My family has not spoken to me since.
In the ensuing years, experience has taught me that most christians aren't interested in debate because they have no doubt that the Bible is the 'Holy word of God', without error, & have need for no other source of Truth. That's why christians quote endless verse because that's all they know & all they wish to know.
I read your response in between my other post & this seems to be the case also with you PehJeshua [Please tell me if I'm wrong]. Rather than read 'The Bible Fraud' & make your mind up for yourself, you prefer to read the criticisms written by another christian with the same agenda, second-hand. So what's the point of debate? A christians mind is resolute & incapable of absorbing anything that contradicts doctrine. It's a complete & utter waste of time & effort on both sides. My mind is free & I recognise truth [usually] when I see it, your mind is trapped in dogmatic doctrine. Please don't think my aim is to be insulting, I'm expressing my experience, calling a spade a spade.
None-the-less, I'm only responding to your questions because your such a polite & pleasant individual but please don't expect me to be drawn into a theological debate.
Okay, the book of Revelation & the Sibylline Books. The Sibylline Oracles were 15 sets composed by presbyters & are not to be confused with the Sibylline books which were called 'The Mysteries of Osiris & Isis' by the author Herophile [circa 500 bce].
It was believed the Sibylline Books were 'possessed with the spirit of divination' & they became the 'Bible' of the Romans [Dictionary of Greek & Roman Antiquities: Sibyllini Libra]
For at least the 1st 6 centuries of the christian era, the Sibylline books held the highest religious authority in the Roman Empire & were cited regularly by early presbyters & later bishops. So highly regarded were the Sibyl's prophecies that the 4th century church usurped her 2nd book , inserted short narratives that dealt with christian characters, said it was a divine revelation given to apostle John by Jesus Christ from heaven, & included it in their New Testament.
Church records stated that Cerinthus not only restructured the Essene writing that subsequently became the Gospel of John, but also 'rewrote' the original Sibyl's prophecies to create a falsified version that was adjusted again in the 4th century when it was added to the New Testament.[Ecclesiastical History, Eusebius,ii.] Cerinthus called his forged document , 'Apocalypse', & to imply an apostolic origin from 'divine revelation' it was re-titled 'Revelation' by Emperor Justinian at the 2nd council of Constantinople in 553 CE, the same council that officially removed all references to reincarnation from the New Testament. The early church was so concerned that the general populace would learn that its Book of Revelation was a forgery that in 405 CE, the Bishop of Rome ordered Roman general Flavius Stilicho to burn as many copies of the Sibylline Books he could find. [Funk & Wagnell's New Standard Dictionary; 'Sibylline Books'; also;Encyclopedia of the Roman Empire; Mathew Bunson; 1994 page 396]. from 'The Crucifixion of Truth' by Tony Bushby.

PehJeshua, the truth is there for all to see. I'm quoting from a book that you have easy access [www.joshuapublishing.com] & if you were serious with your education you'd endeavour to acquire a copy for yourself.
I'm a terribly slow typist & this has taken some time. I'll try to respond to your other questions tomorrow.
Paul777.
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Nonsense. I understand why your family didn't speak with you. So you wouldn't poison the well for everyone else. Just because you fell for the lies and deceptions of Satan doesn't mean your family should have let you drag one of them down to hell too. We know the book of Revelation is inspired because of the amount of prophecy in it that has been fulfilled. You were played like a fiddle and I bet that excuse was just your scapegoat, you fell to sin, admit it, you fell to the cares of this world, admit it. If people researched these things properly, they would see that these are just snares by the devil to help make those who are not truly born-again of the spirit above fall, it gives them the excuse they were looking for. You are just another common statistic, I have heard the same story told many times. So sad, what a pity.
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Seems to be a foul stench in the air.

Ahh there it is. The lying coward who gave his 'word' that there would be no more responses.

I'm sure you'd hate to be one of us Irish A Coward. We're happy & free of raging hatred. You do know that gross negative thought & emotions are behind most serious illness?

Oh well, we all have to die of something & I suppose your content being an ugly miserable little bastard with a mouth [& mind] like a sewer. :)
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That's because you failed to wash yourself again you evil demon infested swine. lol

And I say again, where is your full name and address for us all to see coward? Hypocrite. You really are stupid, aren't you? lol

And I will do what I choose to, I can change my mind if I want to swine. Yeah I would hate to be you, you have no hope and horrifying eternal future awaits you. No matter how good a life you think you have or are having, nothing could justify your pure stupidity and rebellion to God and his Son. Since you have rejected his selfless sacrifice, he will reject you in the world to come. You do know that many of the wicked perish early because God see's they have no potential and pays them back with the promised curses for breaking his holy law. I can repent if I sin, I am not perfect, I am well aware of that, I am a work in progress but you? You are hopeless. And it I find it amusing how much of a filthy rebellious anti-Christ hypocrite you are. You don't know me worm, it's funny how you keep trying to describe me when you don't know anything about me. I laugh at your worthless opinion dog. You are a failure in life because you rejected the savior, I am victorious in Christ. I hope I get to see your face when it all kicks off. lol





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