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I HAD SOME KIND OF PROPHETIC DREAM ABOUT THE TWO WITNESSES!!? I WAS TOLD TO COME HERE AND POST, PLEASE READ!

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never thought i would say this, in fact i wont.

the Quran, stay clear of that book of half truth.

the bible is your only true source of truth.

this should be something to see, how many pages will this new guy and norway go? oh the miles ahead. where do people come up with such stuff/

new friend put down the Quran, and pick up the bible. start at page one and go until finished. it says all you will ever need
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Dear you,

I have been very harsh with you also, and I know it, but I did never mean to hurt you, being intent only on destroying the deception that had captured you, so now I hope you realize that you are not any of the two witnesses of Rev 11:3, as you used to claim, but (which is not bad) only a brother on the level (if level is important) of being a beloved brother nevertheless.

Why should we attempt the same pride in the presence of God as Satan did? Are we not completely happy with the fact that God is our father and totally righteous, keeping us safe? We ought to understand it, and be thankful, don't we?

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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I am not Norway, for I am not representing any specific national entity or people more than others, for I am God's true witness to all humanity.

I do not speak to an abstract of a nation or whatever but to you the soul who listens to me, whoever you are and without paying attention to what others think about you.

I speak to you as God's true witness sent specifically to you, not as sent to others except you, for when I speak to you I do so in the hope that you feel it in your heart and can join me as my dear sister and brother.

I did definitely not choose myself but it became my burden for your sake, and also for my own sake, for through deep sorrow in my heart I was called by God Almighty to speak to you, even totally unworthy though I were.

So what can I do, wretched human being as I am in having been called through wonders and testimonies given by people around me.

Greetings from me,
PehJeshuah

Either your brother or your enemy, after your own choice, but my soul is only peace and love! Oh, if only my days were over and I could feel the peaceful wind of the God, Lord Almighty, who found me in my childhood days and never let me down, for my and your sake, sister and brother, wherever you are.
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I hear truth in your words...beauty spoken from your heart.

Glory to God in the highest...He is Faithful and True.

Your sister in Christ.
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Yep it was Ezechiel 22 that I was thinking of. Though I was thinking and reading on the first few chapters of Isaiah also. I don't think we are at the point of 2:4 yet though. That will be after the great and terrible day of the Lord.

It seems Ezechiel says the same things as Isaiah (surprise, surprise). Among the abominations that he lists are sexual sin and oppressing the poor and needy just as Isaiah talks about. As a matter of fact he berates them for for getting rich off of those folks. It sounds like the modern western and modern religion (Christianity included) with their cohorts to me for the most part. The prophets ravaning among them like wolves. The priests making the holy profane and such.

I know Ezechiel was talking to Judah of the time, but we both know that scripture can and does apply multiple times. That's another reason why God is so smart and holy.

Worshiping the work of their hands? That can apply to how some folks worship science. I mean there is nothing wrong with using tools (science is but that), but when you start thinking that is what will save you it crosses a line into idolatry.

It was actually Malachi 3 I was thinking of. Sorry about the rely time. When I start looking In the Bible I start reading a lot and Malachi and Isaiah are among my favorites on the OT side.

Any comments?

Oh and may Our Lord and Saviour bless you
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Dear you,

Please give me the opportunity to come back with my comments, for right now I am overloaded with my ordinary work for living.

Do not be afraid of what happens around Syria, for the key of the four destructive angels are in the hands of God, and they will not be let loose before you see the humiliation and death of God's true witnesses, one of whom I am, not for my own sake, but for you also, dear brother, and for all my dear sisters and brothers who I do not know personally and not had the honor of meeting.

I speak the truth from the high north as foretold in Scripture, which has nothing to do with a proud soul, as I am always being accused of being, for among the lowest people God chose me, the brand, that I speak His words of last warning.

How many times do you need to see that those who attack me in their would-be knowledge of Scripture are refuted by me and without any power in what they say?

Listen, I will be laughed at, my words will be ridiculed, my existence as God's true witness be doubted, but, still, with the days to come you will, all of you, be more and more shaken by the reality and serious days foretold in Scripture, but God's true witnesses will nevertheless stand firm through everything while proclaiming the truth that God sent them to reveal to this world.

So, why do most people not give themselves and me the chance to speak together in truthfulness?

I will regret nothing of what I have said to you of what God Almighty has revealed to me, only be sorry that, partly also because I am just a human being like you all are, that I can not reach all of you and point the way to you for peace and eternal blessedness.

Greetings from me,
PehJeshuah
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Dear PJ,

These words of yours resonate tremendously with me. For, as people on here know about me, God has indicated to me to trust you. I, myself, have had a great deal of testing in the course of the last month. I have been ridiculed, judged, and mocked by my beliefs that are anchored in the everlasting gospel and Scripture.

I pray for my brothers and sisters around the world. This journey is not for the faint of heart. But, faith will prevail and God's truth will be revealed to this Earth. Praise be to God Almighty.

Thank you for being consistent, strong and a candid brother in our Saviour's truth.

God Bless you all,
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To all the PJs an chips who think to be a choosen one:

Do not fight here in that form, name bad words and do not let your ego play.
Carry the bag of an old woman or help her crossing the street: Then you would act in the right way and help to turn the world to a better one.
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To all the PJs an chips who think to be a choosen one:

Do not fight here in that form, name bad words and do not let your ego play.
Carry the bag of an old woman or help her crossing the street: Then you would act in the right way and help to turn the world to a better one.
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Dear people,

This person who calls himself a mystic is rather myopic, for this is what he claim in the German language:

Die auch in der Bibel erwähnte „Entrückung“ wird im Juni/Juli stattfinden. Nur ein minimaler Prozentsatz (0,3 %) der Weltbevölkerung wird jedoch entrücken. Das bedeutet maximal 20 Millionen Menschen werden die Erde auf magische Art verlassen.
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What he says is that the falsely taught "rapture" will take place in June/July but he does not say in what year, so his time setting is thus close to totally nonsensical.

He also says the following rubbish:

Die Landung der Aliens ist eine göttliche Intervention und keine Invasion. Leiter der Mission wird der Aufgestiegene Meister Sananda sein, vielen bekannt unter dem Namen seiner Inkarnation als Jesus Christus.
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meaning to tell people that Jesus Christ is an incarnation of Master Sananda, which is nothing else but an instance of blasphemy against God.

In spite of it he has also said the following lie:

Die meisten Visionen und Channelings erhält er durch Jesus Christus.
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namely that most of his visions and information he received through Jesus Christ, which is also a blasphemy, for Jesus Christ does not contradict Scripture.

In spite of himself being a sham he speaks of me as though I were just one of many PJs, which everybody can see is not at all true!

Now you see how myopic he is instead of mystic.

Greetings from
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To all the PJs an chips who think to be a choosen one:

Do not fight here in that form, name bad words and do not let your ego play.
Carry the bag of an old woman or help her crossing the street: Then you would act in the right way and help to turn the world to a better one.
 Quoting: Stefan Parlow


Dear people,

This person who calls himself a mystic is rather myopic, for this is what he claims in the German language:

Die auch in der Bibel erwähnte „Entrückung“ wird im Juni/Juli stattfinden. Nur ein minimaler Prozentsatz (0,3 %) der Weltbevölkerung wird jedoch entrücken. Das bedeutet maximal 20 Millionen Menschen werden die Erde auf magische Art verlassen.
 Quoting: Stefan Parlow


What he says is that the falsely taught "rapture" will take place in June/July but he does not say in what year, so his time setting is thus close to totally nonsensical.

He also says the following rubbish:

Die Landung der Aliens ist eine göttliche Intervention und keine Invasion. Leiter der Mission wird der Aufgestiegene Meister Sananda sein, vielen bekannt unter dem Namen seiner Inkarnation als Jesus Christus.
 Quoting: Stefan Parlow


meaning to tell people that Jesus Christ is an incarnation of Master Sananda, which is nothing else but an instance of blasphemy against God.

In spite of it he has also said the following lie:

Die meisten Visionen und Channelings erhält er durch Jesus Christus.
 Quoting: Stefan Parlow


namely that most of his visions and information he received through Jesus Christ, which is also a blasphemy, for Jesus Christ does not contradict Scripture.

In spite of himself being a sham he speaks of me as though I were just one of many PJs, which everybody can see is not at all true!

Now you see how myopic he is instead of being a mystic.

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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can you tell us more about your dream Raul? sounds very interesting. Ignore the "nutjobs", they are just jelous that you have been contactedl


His name is RUAL, not Raul! Fudging idiot.
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I wasa so excited over the possibility that I could be one of the witnesses my brain typed faster then my fingers.
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To all the PJs an chips who think to be a choosen one:

Do not fight here in that form, name bad words and do not let your ego play.
Carry the bag of an old woman or help her crossing the street: Then you would act in the right way and help to turn the world to a better one.
 Quoting: Stefan Parlow


Dear people,

being what I tell you, God's true witness according to Rev 11:3, and having been attacked by this would-be something, Stefan Parlow, I will come back and show you, even prove to you, how stupid and false he is!

He is a twister of Scripture, sent by the Devil, so therefore he has involved himself in the heavenly war but only to be soundly defeated!

He has laughed at the true witness for a long enough time, so now I will show you how laughable he is, that son of perdition in his so-called better-knowledge!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah

Do never attack the truth if you are yourself involved in falsehood, for if you do you will be defeated in a way that you will later always regret!

The true witness of God has spoken and the devils shake in their helpless anger!!!
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I don't believe both post here. Maybe 1
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Dear you,

If God's true witnesses ever speak wherever, even here, and you hear their "voice" how do you suppose that you will be able to realize it.

What is the token for you and us to go by? Did you ever consider this? The true prophets of former Israel also spoke but often people nevertheless did not realize it. How come?

Best wishes,
A soul who heard the voice
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I don't believe both post here. Maybe 1
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Dear you,

If God's true witnesses ever speak wherever, even here, and you hear their "voice" how do you suppose that you will be able to realize it.

What is the token for you and us to go by? Did you ever consider this? The true prophets of former Israel also spoke but often people nevertheless did not realize it. How come?

Best wishes,
A soul who heard the voice
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because I am gifted with discernment by way of the Holy Spirit which is molding me into a tabernacle for the living God like we are supposed to be...no longer in a temple built by man but rather by God
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The purpose of the witnesses is not to glorify themselves but rather to glofify the words and actions of God and Christ himself. It is not important who they are what is important is that we do Gods will ourselves.
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This situation in Syria has potential. Since someone has mentioned Daniel, I would some dissertation on Chapter 11.

Now I know everyone here are probably fans of the King James Bible (my ancestor appreciates that), Saying that I, by chance or was led to look at the war mentioned in that chapter. As is my custom I cross referenced it with various other translations.

According to the Peshitta which translation I don't recall (and too lazy to look right now) those ships from Chittim aren't from Cypress.

Why do I mention it because of some of today's headlines. Another big player has officially voiced their concern about the events happening in Syria.

For the record I discussed that with some folks with the GLP-VC as I was a moderator at the time about 2 1/2 years ago.


Bottom line this situation has potential.





Michael are you Jewish?
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This situation in Syria has potential. Since someone has mentioned Daniel, I would some dissertation on Chapter 11.

Now I know everyone here are probably fans of the King James Bible (my ancestor appreciates that), Saying that I, by chance or was led to look at the war mentioned in that chapter. As is my custom I cross referenced it with various other translations.

According to the Peshitta which translation I don't recall (and too lazy to look right now) those ships from Chittim aren't from Cypress.

Why do I mention it because of some of today's headlines. Another big player has officially voiced their concern about the events happening in Syria.

For the record I discussed that with some folks with the GLP-VC as I was a moderator at the time about 2 1/2 years ago.


Bottom line this situation has potential.





Michael are you Jewish?
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how often does a 17 year old dream of a red heifer being sacrificed, or two planes going into two buildings or this one yet to come, pole switchin either on earth or Sun. I dream of these things as a child, im 37 years old and born sept 11, its just very weird and I have had other dreams...nor are my parents bible thumpers, infact they dont go to church
all of this happening now I tell you is all related to revelation including 911 and also the murder of that american reporter Daniel or Danny I dreamt of that
my point being, it is all related...so you are correct in thinking that it is related
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The purpose of the witnesses is not to glorify themselves but rather to glofify the words and actions of God and Christ himself. It is not important who they are what is important is that we do Gods will ourselves.
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true, also a key word is witness. many come in his name few were called to do such, be very careful...
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yes the witnesses will come of course, but we need to keep our eyes on Christ, he will come as he left in the clouds...so these are interesting days we are living in and its time to get closer to God, the way the world is handeling its situations has been clearly cerebral as opposed to spiritual and God centered...we cannoy make people believe in a higher power, nor would God want that but inevitably speaking he will make himself manifest to everyone...its better to be safe than sorry...
Christ is not going to be reborn, that is a rumor ...he will come as he left in the clouds, there is no reason for him to be reborn he came to fullfill prophecy and he will do so again...as he said It Is Finished
I believe the woman in revelation 12:13 is a literal woman...and the witnesses may in fact be either 2 males or 1 female and a male...just as God rose Devorah to judge all of Israel
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This situation in Syria has potential. Since someone has mentioned Daniel, I would some dissertation on Chapter 11.

Now I know everyone here are probably fans of the King James Bible (my ancestor appreciates that), Saying that I, by chance or was led to look at the war mentioned in that chapter. As is my custom I cross referenced it with various other translations.

According to the Peshitta which translation I don't recall (and too lazy to look right now) those ships from Chittim aren't from Cypress.

Why do I mention it because of some of today's headlines. Another big player has officially voiced their concern about the events happening in Syria.

For the record I discussed that with some folks with the GLP-VC as I was a moderator at the time about 2 1/2 years ago.


Bottom line this situation has potential.





Michael are you Jewish?
 Quoting: dschis1000



how often does a 17 year old dream of a red heifer being sacrificed, or two planes going into two buildings or this one yet to come, pole switchin either on earth or Sun. I dream of these things as a child, im 37 years old and born sept 11, its just very weird and I have had other dreams...nor are my parents bible thumpers, infact they dont go to church
all of this happening now I tell you is all related to revelation including 911 and also the murder of that american reporter Daniel or Danny I dreamt of that
my point being, it is all related...so you are correct in thinking that it is related
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I hear you? I have a pretty unique story of my own. Things come to me bit differently.

Back in 1988 or 1989, right before the Desert Storm and the Cold War was winding down, I was telling whomever would listen the nest enemy we would be facing was "Stan" and the only way out was up. Funny thing for an Army NCO to be saying but I did because I was compelled to. I would relay the names of some of the folks I told it to, but I won't.

The thing of it is, it just came to me. Though I had a belief in God and the power of Jesus I wasn't a church goer and definitely not a model Christian. Perhaps it's part of the prophesy of Malachi.

Anyway, I would guess there isn't anyone who will"stand in the gap"?

Blessings in the name of our Saviour Jesus
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This situation in Syria has potential. Since someone has mentioned Daniel, I would some dissertation on Chapter 11.

Now I know everyone here are probably fans of the King James Bible (my ancestor appreciates that), Saying that I, by chance or was led to look at the war mentioned in that chapter. As is my custom I cross referenced it with various other translations.

According to the Peshitta which translation I don't recall (and too lazy to look right now) those ships from Chittim aren't from Cypress.

Why do I mention it because of some of today's headlines. Another big player has officially voiced their concern about the events happening in Syria.

For the record I discussed that with some folks with the GLP-VC as I was a moderator at the time about 2 1/2 years ago.


Bottom line this situation has potential.





Michael are you Jewish?
 Quoting: dschis1000



how often does a 17 year old dream of a red heifer being sacrificed, or two planes going into two buildings or this one yet to come, pole switchin either on earth or Sun. I dream of these things as a child, im 37 years old and born sept 11, its just very weird and I have had other dreams...nor are my parents bible thumpers, infact they dont go to church
all of this happening now I tell you is all related to revelation including 911 and also the murder of that american reporter Daniel or Danny I dreamt of that
my point being, it is all related...so you are correct in thinking that it is related
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I hear you? I have a pretty unique story of my own. Things come to me bit differently.

Back in 1988 or 1989, right before the Desert Storm and the Cold War was winding down, I was telling whomever would listen the nest enemy we would be facing was "Stan" and the only way out was up. Funny thing for an Army NCO to be saying but I did because I was compelled to. I would relay the names of some of the folks I told it to, but I won't.

The thing of it is, it just came to me. Though I had a belief in God and the power of Jesus I wasn't a church goer and definitely not a model Christian. Perhaps it's part of the prophesy of Malachi.

Anyway, I would guess there isn't anyone who will"stand in the gap"?

Blessings in the name of our Saviour Jesus
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I get a very powerful sense of CHrist light through your words. This is a great thing Praise God.

what was horrific for me were the dreams of the beheadings, right when a bunch of christians were kidnapped in Iraq and after the Daniel incident, who dreams abotu beheading christians lol thats not a normal dream, and I used to dream about tornados 4 at a time in the sky...floods literally coming to my feet in swirls, and the polar shift or switch where I would be looking up and it looked as though the sky was dark gery black yellow and swirling all around almost as if the sky was a polluted ocean, and then I had a dream about the end when the armies of whoever it is that will be the antichrist collects the christians to kill them, I at that point looked outside and it seemed like it looked like Britian during WW1 or 2 bombs everywhere and buildings demolished, So for some reason I knew to look into the sky it was midnight, and I saw Christ coming towards my window...and then in my room, he showed me a piece of papyrus and it contained a drawing of a machine that would be used to kill Christians or any believers in God in general...and he mentioned that there would be some people saints left to help guide the believers through trib and inevitable death
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The purpose of the witnesses is not to glorify themselves but rather to glorify the words and actions of God and Christ himself. It is not important who they are what is important is that we do Gods will ourselves.
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What you say is partly true partly wrong. Will the two witnesses be glorifying themselves if they tell in honesty who they are? Have you not noticed that when I post here on GLP I always refer to Scripture? Would you say that referring to Scripture without twisting it is not paramount to glorifying the Word? If it is possible for a man to glorify the Word, which is already glorified, it must also entail that caring about what Scripture says about the two witnesses is included.

There are enough scriptures to tell people that the true two witnesses do not come from the United States, so since this is a biblical fact it must be important to know "who they are" in the sense that they are definitely not from USA. Only that realization would be on the level of glorifying the Word instead of dishonoring the Word with proposing contra-biblical nonsense about the two witnesses being from America.

Take it or leave it, but know that to pinpoint what Scripture already does reveal about the true witnesses of Rev 11:3 is quite different from glorifying men. It is instead paramount to glorifying Scripture!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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The purpose of the witnesses is not to glorify themselves but rather to glorify the words and actions of God and Christ himself. It is not important who they are what is important is that we do Gods will ourselves.
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What you say is partly true partly wrong. Will the two witnesses be glorifying themselves if they tell in honesty who they are? Have you not noticed that when I post here on GLP I always refer to Scripture? Would you say that referring to Scripture without twisting it is not paramount to glorifying the Word? If it is possible for a man to glorify the Word, which is already glorified, it must also entail that caring about what Scripture says about the two witnesses is included.

There are enough scriptures to tell people that the true two witnesses do not come from the United States, so since this is a biblical fact it must be important to know "who they are" in the sense that they are definitely not from USA. Only that realization would be on the level of glorifying the Word instead of dishonoring the Word with proposing contra-biblical nonsense about the two witnesses being from America.

Take it or leave it, but know that to pinpoint what Scripture already does reveal about the true witnesses of Rev 11:3 is quite different from glorifying men. It is instead paramount to glorifying Scripture!

Greetings from
PehJeshuah
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It's up to God. I don't think they will say we are the witnesses. I think they will revealed in a humble setting
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Dear people,

The snake Waterman is back, so let me remind you of this:


Dear people,

There is a person here on GLP who uses the nick Waterman and writes a lot of rubbish on things related to the Bible. I warn you against listening to him, for he is totally false. I will comment on some of his posts to show you why he is not of God but instead of the apostasy. I have criticized him on his own thread but only to see that he always deletes my relevant comments and arguments against what he propogate.

Let us now look at what this person says and weigh it in the scales of Scripture.

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11/15/2012 06:21 PM

There is a 42 month period before the 7 year tribulation, revelation 2:10 shows that:.....the 10 days of tribulation are 10 years or 42 months added in front of the 7 year trib
 Quoting: Waterman


My comment:
It is nowhere found in Scripture that the so-called tribulation will last for 7 years, so that is an empty and unfounded doctrine. The 10 days of tribulation in Rev 2:10 has got nothing to do with the 42 months in Rev 13:5. He is as ignorant as to say that the 42 montsh are added in front of the dreamed-up 7 year tribulation, not knowing that the 42 months are 1260 years in prophetic reckoning and make up the time period of the beast in Rev 13. This time period consists of the third trumpet, the fourth trumpet, and the fifth trumpet, all included in what is called the first woe, whereas the great tribulation belongs in the time of the second woe. These thing I know and can prove from Scripture beyond refutation!

10 Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the crown of life.

The united states is the land of milk and honey it is the greatest nation the world will ever see until the new heaven and new earth come
 Quoting: Waterman


My comment:
Here Waterman first quotes Rev 2:10 and then comments on it as though the verse applies to the united states instead of to the angel and church of Smyrna as clearly said in Rev 2:8. Whatever the greatness of the united states might be it has nonetheless no relevance whatsoever to Rev 2:8-10. Therefore, Waterman's comparison is far-fetched and stupid!

my thread on the last day servant...there are two witnesses but the 2nd is always greater than the first, example (Aaron and Moses, John and Jesus, steven and paul...etc:

Thread: The 2nd witness of Revelation 11 is the prince of Israel (ADAM) and the greatest of all servants of God

Last Edited by waterman on 11/15/2012 10:01 PM
 Quoting: Waterman


My comment:
Again Waterman is dreaming up things, his own figments, without having any basis in Scripture. According to Scripture it is Jesus Christ who is the prince of Israel, as seen in Acts 5:31, and none of the two witnesses:

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.
 Quoting: The Bible


There is just one "the prince of Israel", and neither of the two witnesses can therefore be that prince of Israel. Waterman is talking rubbish.


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11/15/2012 04:42 PM

Revelation chapter 12 the woman clothed with the sun and the moon at her feet with 12 stars:

The lost 10 tribes are the feminine half or Israel Judah is the male.
Jesus himself said he only came for the lost sheep of Isreal, which is why the gentile can be saved, and it was to make the jew jealous for salvation.....when the two houses are joined together it is a type of Adam and Eve. Eve started as part of Adam, came out of Adam and then it was declared "you are bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh" and together they became one flesh....and in the end the two houses become of one spirit through Jesus Christ: galations 3:28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are Christ all one in Jesus
 Quoting: Waterman


My comment:
Here Waterman is again presenting his own figments without any basis in Scripture. Where is it said in Scripture that the ten lost tribes are the feminine half of Israel? Nowhere! What is lost is gone, and Scripture clearly shows that God rejected the ten tribes of historical Israel for ever. Read 2 Kings 1718-20:

Therefore the LORD was very angry with Israel, and removed them out of his sight: there was NONE left but the tribe of Judah only. Also Judah kept not the commandments of the LORD their God, but walked in the statutes of Israel which they made. And the LORD rejected all the seed of Israel, and afflicted them, and delivered them into the hand of spoilers, until he had cast them OUT OF HIS SIGHT.
 Quoting: The Bible


What is cast out of God's sight is removed forever! Therefore, the whole construction of Waterman's figments fall apart. This is proven by what is said in Zech 11:14 where Scripture foretells that there will be no unity between "Israel" and Judah in NT time, for that verse applies to our time since it is connected with the second staff called Bands.


That is showing you spiritual Israel:
1. God never represent the Jewish nation Israel as a female:
Exodus 4:22-23:

22 And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

23 And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn.


2. 12 stars represent it being Israel, but spiritual Israel

3. Clothed in the sun(means it is the glory of the nations)

4 Moon under her feet(united states only nation to conquer the moon) moon under our feet.
 Quoting: Waterman


My comment:
These comments of Waterman on the woman in Rev 12 are not consistent with Scripture. Though it is true that the woman is spiritual, being the true apostolic church, it is a lie of his to say that "clothed in the sun" means that she is the glory of the nations, for in the apostolic time the nations persecuted the church instead of honoring her. His next lie is to say that the moon under the feet of the woman in Rev 12:1 has got to do with the united states having conquered the moon. That is just rubbish, as my posts to ExploringTheTruth on the book of Revelation prove, for why should the woman herself be spiritual while the moon upon which she stands is literal.

Waterman has therefore made a mess of his hermeneutics!

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Dear you, you people who seek the truth,

Let me tell you that deceivers and enemies of the truth of God, like Waterman, are stupid enough to think that I am just a crazy person opposing him and his likes in my stupidity.

What he does not yet realize is that I speak as Scripture speaks and can therefore not be defeated by Satans missionaries, one of who he is, for I am a terrible harbinger of his and his likes' destruction, because God hates their lies!

Keep away from him, for he is full of the deception that comes from the Devil himself, so oppose him with Scripture, and you will be okay.

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The purpose of the witnesses is not to glorify themselves but rather to glorify the words and actions of God and Christ himself. It is not important who they are what is important is that we do Gods will ourselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41461020


What you say is partly true partly wrong. Will the two witnesses be glorifying themselves if they tell in honesty who they are? Have you not noticed that when I post here on GLP I always refer to Scripture? Would you say that referring to Scripture without twisting it is not paramount to glorifying the Word? If it is possible for a man to glorify the Word, which is already glorified, it must also entail that caring about what Scripture says about the two witnesses is included.

There are enough scriptures to tell people that the true two witnesses do not come from the United States, so since this is a biblical fact it must be important to know "who they are" in the sense that they are definitely not from USA. Only that realization would be on the level of glorifying the Word instead of dishonoring the Word with proposing contra-biblical nonsense about the two witnesses being from America.

Take it or leave it, but know that to pinpoint what Scripture already does reveal about the true witnesses of Rev 11:3 is quite different from glorifying men. It is instead paramount to glorifying Scripture!

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It's up to God. I don't think they will say we are the witnesses. I think they will revealed in a humble setting
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42807456


You think and you think, and when will you know from what God and Scripture tells you.

How long do you want to be a hypocrite who always find a way to explain away the prophecies of Scripture and the presence of truth?

Thinkers will go to hell for thinking without ever coming to the conclusion that they ought to give God honor, whereas believers conquer the truth with their love of righteousness.

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The purpose of the witnesses is not to glorify themselves but rather to glorify the words and actions of God and Christ himself. It is not important who they are what is important is that we do Gods will ourselves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41461020


What you say is partly true partly wrong. Will the two witnesses be glorifying themselves if they tell in honesty who they are? Have you not noticed that when I post here on GLP I always refer to Scripture? Would you say that referring to Scripture without twisting it is not paramount to glorifying the Word? If it is possible for a man to glorify the Word, which is already glorified, it must also entail that caring about what Scripture says about the two witnesses is included.

There are enough scriptures to tell people that the true two witnesses do not come from the United States, so since this is a biblical fact it must be important to know "who they are" in the sense that they are definitely not from USA. Only that realization would be on the level of glorifying the Word instead of dishonoring the Word with proposing contra-biblical nonsense about the two witnesses being from America.

Take it or leave it, but know that to pinpoint what Scripture already does reveal about the true witnesses of Rev 11:3 is quite different from glorifying men. It is instead paramount to glorifying Scripture!

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It's up to God. I don't think they will say we are the witnesses. I think they will revealed in a humble setting
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42807456


You think and you think, and when will you know from what God and Scripture tells you.

How long do you want to be a hypocrite who always find a way to explain away the prophecies of Scripture and the presence of truth?

Thinkers will go to hell for thinking without ever coming to the conclusion that they ought to give God honor, whereas believers conquer the truth with their love of righteousness.

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Let me tell you that the reason why you are wrong is the following biblical text (Ezek 10:5):

And the sound of the cherubims' wings was heard even to the outer court, as the voice of the Almighty God when he speaketh.
 Quoting: The Bible


That is why God's true two witnesses, who are two of the four cherubim, will not be humble in the sense most people think they will be, for they are sent to reveal and destroy falsehood, not to ingratiate themselves with the sons of Satan!

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Why would you expect that God's only true ambassadors in their days should come with their message to the perpetrators of evil as though they were ashamed of Him who sent them?

Their days are the days of God's retribution, so beware of it that they come with much anger in their hearts for what has been done by iniquitous people and powers.

They will not flinch, so either people realize it and repent, or, else, they go into their eternal destruction, for now the cup of God's indignation is full and will compel all people who are following the Devil to drink it in a double measure. Woe to you, you sons and daughters of Satan!
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Dear you,

On the thread of the false Waterman they are still on the level of undeveloped people, who hear and never learn. They do not realize the following truth given to us by Paul the Apostle to Titus (3:9):

But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
 Quoting: The Bible


Is it not strange that the words of Paul judge them as foretold by himself to the Romans (2:16):

In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
 Quoting: The Bible



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Talking to yourself again you deluded loon? lol

Some witness you are. Yeah, God has really given you a stage to get his message across. lol fail.
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Dear you,

On the thread of the false Waterman they are still on the level of undeveloped people, who hear and never learn. They do not realize the following truth given to us by Paul the Apostle to Titus (3:9):

But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain.
 Quoting: The Bible


Is it not strange that the words of Paul judge them as foretold by himself to the Romans (2:16):

In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.
 Quoting: The Bible



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The REAL two witnesses won't have to try and convince anyone of their calling. It will be clear to everyone. By you trying to convince others that you are one of them proves you clearly are not. You are just a sad pathetic man with delusions of grandeur.
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and what do these verses tell us?

Isaiah 49:1-7

Hear me, O coastlands, listen, O distant peoples. The LORD called me from birth, from my mother’s womb he gave me my name. He made of me a sharp-edged sword and concealed me in the shadow of his arm. He made me a polished arrow, in his quiver he hid me.
You are my servant, he said to me, Israel, through whom I show my glory. Though I thought I had toiled in vain, and for nothing, uselessly, spent my strength, Yet my reward is with the LORD, my recompense is with my God. For now the LORD has spoken who formed me as his servant from the womb, That Jacob may be brought back to him and Israel gathered to him; And I am made glorious in the sight of the LORD, and my God is now my strength! It is too little, he says, for you to be my servant, to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and restore the survivors of Israel; I will make you a light to the nations, that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth. Thus says the LORD, the redeemer and the Holy One of Israel, To the one despised, whom the nations abhor, the slave of rulers: When kings see you, they shall stand up, and princes shall prostrate themselves Because of the LORD who is faithful, the Holy One of Israel who has chosen you.
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Talking to yourself again you deluded loon? lol

Some witness you are. Yeah, God has really given you a stage to get his message across. lol fail.
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I love it that God Almighty gave me the power to disgrace all these Satanic followers of the Antichrist and gave me also the power both to ridicule and put them ten pegs down!

Can't you see it, can't you feel it, that what is given to me in respect of the fire of mouth is of God? How long are you going to fight the foretold heavenly war only to lose and end in hell?

Watch out, for you cannot measure me even though you saw me, for what I look like to you is not the pot of gain but God's truth that I propagate. That truth no devil in this universe can fight against with success, for it is too much for them. You will see that in days to come. Already people are realizing the truthfulness of my words, in Scandinavia, in England, in USA, and elsewhere. Beat down the truth if you can, you sons of the Antichrist!

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