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Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture

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Enoch
User ID: 382160
2/28/2008 8:58 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

HOLA TLALOC.
POR CIERTO, LO ANTERIOR LO PUSE YO.
Raised Crow
User ID: 379044
2/28/2008 9:46 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

HOLA TLALOC.
POR CIERTO, LO ANTERIOR LO PUSE YO.
 Quoting: Enoch

Esta bien, lo traducire apenas pueda, como en dos horas (si es util). Poco decepcionante tu respuesta sobre las sennales, porque quiero algo con fuerza con la cual decidirme y cambiar cosas materiales en mi vida, pero tuve buenos suennos en la mannana, maas suennos sin comprobacioon, y haree un buen diia. Nos vemos.

It's all right, I'll translate it as soon as I can, in about two hours (if it is useful). A bit dissappointing, your answer about signals, because I want something with strength with which to decide and change material things in my life, but I had good dreams this morning, more proof=less dreams, and I'll make a good day. See you.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

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The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
SunRa
User ID: 353725
2/28/2008 10:22 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

RICHARD BACH

iknew it was richard bach, illusions... i read that many years ago...

Oh, so it's that book of Illusions.

SunRa, I do think Enoch talks about evacuation from earth, since he makes many references from Earth as a whole and talks about different ways in which people might be moved, such as "teleportation in the best Star Trek style". You seem to be justly confident of all that, though.

This is something between Enoch and me, I might translate it tomorrow.
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Yo no estoy muy confiado.

Enoch, se que estas viendo este subforo, y no se que estes haciendo nada maas. A partir del momento que ponga esto, te pido que me confirmes dos cosas, una que tu tienes autoridad o percepcion extraordinarias (escribir a mi mail cosas sobre mi es suficiente), y otra que los seres inteligentes existen fuera de la Tierra. No es malicia miia, pero hay una decisioon que no puedo aplazar, y si confiio en tii, dejaree de lado a los hombres y a sus ambiciones, pero si solamente ellos se me muestran reales, no pondre mis esperanzas en lo que tu has dicho. Espero me puedas confirmar.

Mannana a las 10 traduciree este mensaje para que todos lo vean, dado el caso que haya necesidad de eel auun.
 Quoting: Raised Crow

well.. i have been led to read a lot of hopi prophesy over the last week... as well as other works relating to same...

says that if near the vortices, shall be able to be 'evacuated' as the hopi were through each set of cataclysms previous, and re-emerge with a cleansed world...

natives know god well, if they have stayed within their traditions, they are close to nature, and have empty mind/heart for god to enter to speak and fill up... jesus came as prophet to those of the civilized world to preach to and 'convert', not the natives... the natives had no need of saving, they never broke their covenants... it is real messy now...

also, i have experienced what can be called a consciousness shift, akin to what is talked about for 'rapture' and the new age prophesies for transcendence... it lasted four hours... and, well... what to say? it is all around us, the answers, the truth... if only one has the eyes to see it...
Enoch
User ID: 382160
2/28/2008 10:31 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

THAT IS TRUE SUNRA
Raised Crow
User ID: 212074
2/28/2008 11:26 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

also, i have experienced what can be called a consciousness shift, akin to what is talked about for 'rapture' and the new age prophesies for transcendence... it lasted four hours... and, well... what to say? it is all around us, the answers, the truth... if only one has the eyes to see it...
 Quoting: SunRa

Yeah, I have been reading Annie Besant's "The Ancient Wisdom" these last two days, it talks about the different planes and what they have to give. They are certainly all around us, and we need only, and alone, develop to see them. I still think that having your physical body destroyed would set your work in the physical world back about, say, whatever age you were, so it's intelligent to save said bodies.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Raised Crow
User ID: 212074
2/28/2008 11:34 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

HOLA A TODOS, Y ESPECIALMENTE A TÍ TLALOC. GRACIAS POR TUS TRADUCCIONES.

TLALOC, LA MEJOR SEÑAL ES LA DEL SUEÑO...HA.HA.

DE TODAS FORMAS, Y POR SI PUDIERA SEROS A TODOS ÚTIL, NARRARÉ UNA ANÉCDOTA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 382160

Hello to you all, and especially to you Tlaloc. Thank you for your translations.

The signal

I have always liked animals, and especially dogs, cats, horses, dolphins, as well as many of the so-called "wild". By the by, there is a Roberto Carlos song (I dedicate it with tenderness to Little Star) in whose lyrics appears "I would like to be civilized, like the animals". (Civilization comes from civitas, city in Latin. -ED)

Then well, being a boy, teenaged and adult, I had the great fortun of having cats, parakeets, silkworms and of course puppies. All of them loved us, the worms less so, it is clear, ha, ha (my parents, maternal grandmother, sister and a servant (meaning one's self. -ED) and us them.

Already in the company of my wife we had cats and parakeets. Later on, less than two years ago, given the insistence of my children and the esteem my wife and I have for dogs, we decided to adopt one.

It is a beautiful dog as much in the physical as in his character. All of us love him a lot. For me it is something very special. He always asks for a signal of our affection, a thing very easy to fulfill, for we worry a lot about him. He goes out to walk, eats very well, we protect him, we play, etc. Some people expect that their pets give them love, tenderness, etc, and generally these give it. When we respect them love them and orient them they respond even more.

From months ago I thought that between my dog and I there existed an emotional link superior to that of the less than two years of sharing together. I was almost sure that we knew each other
out of other lives. It is clear, I did not give it greater importance to the topic because the fundamental thing was to be able to count on him in here and now. One night, it'll be some two or three months, I dreamed of a very special pet, which I called by my dog's name. This pet was an ibis, a bird of ancient Egypt and which was very related with a previous existence of mine.

The ibis symbolizes in the ancient Egyptian wisdom, the devourer of egos. Wants this to mean that we must be like the ibis, devourers of our own egos. In the same dream I called my wife and commented the situation to her. It is overmuch to mention that the ibies shared in the dream with me as my dog does presently, if well the ibis was less evolved.

That was the signal, the olden ibis of thousands of years ago had evolved up to the dog of today, and the most important thing, !we were together again¡

I remember when he arrived at our house with few months; his desperation for leaving from the cage in which he had remained all night and in duration of his trips from Madrid. His joy in the face I have it engraved. He came in through the main door of the house and in that moment, given his name, I associated that a special atmosphere had entered into the home.

Signals, dear readers, can manifest themselves in many diverse forms, and sometimes the ones we consider "intrascendent", are the most welcome and meaningful. Signals are often necessary, though not always. Some serve as an alert, others give hope, others teach, and others remove from us fears and doubts.
PD. Casually, I had forgotten to tell you that my dog is named Jupiter.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
SunRa
User ID: 353725
2/28/2008 11:56 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

also, i have experienced what can be called a consciousness shift, akin to what is talked about for 'rapture' and the new age prophesies for transcendence... it lasted four hours... and, well... what to say? it is all around us, the answers, the truth... if only one has the eyes to see it...

Yeah, I have been reading Annie Besant's "The Ancient Wisdom" these last two days, it talks about the different planes and what they have to give. They are certainly all around us, and we need only, and alone, develop to see them. I still think that having your physical body destroyed would set your work in the physical world back about, say, whatever age you were, so it's intelligent to save said bodies.
 Quoting: Raised Crow

there is also talk about the three days... those 'dreaded' three days...
the hopi say that when the three days of darkness happen, to shut yourself up in your house and to not even peek out the window... there is talk of the holes in the sky and the scorching of the planet... there is also talk of those who 'are chosen' (ie. those who have done their soul preparation and energy transmutation) shall be as asleep/unconscious during the three day event and wake up into a new world... not necessarily a fully transformed one, but they will in fact be experiencing a much different reality than those who remained awake and outside their homes during this event....
also, in regards to staying within the home... i feel is more reference to the inner home... by going into our inner sanctuary where god resides we shall be safe... do not peek out of your inner sanctuary for one might become as lot's wife, as she looked back and was atomized....
also in regards... there are many having dreams of the wars... many of them notice that upon returning to their home in their dreams where there is much fighting and warring, with or without aliens involved in the dream war, when they reach their house there is no trace of war... it is like within the house, all is peace and calm... my son has been having many of these dreams recently... i prepared a set of archangel michael blue flame armor decrees for my children to 'pray' each day... upon the start, my son had a dream in which he was at a school run by alien looking people appearing to be made out of clay... he was being taught a special magic to grow wings out of his back and learn to fly with them... since that dream, his wings have remained and he is able to use them to differing degrees within subsequent dreams...
i am thinking, that for those who are not so transformed energetically they may need to use various 'portals/vortice points', but those who are able to shift their awareness and flux their manifestive energy fields, shall be able to phase through and be untouched by any physical threat... maybe that is what the three days sleeping while everyone else is experiencing may be about...
i am giving a presentation this afternoon at the central arizona college... 2012: the myths and theories... i only have 15 minutes to present, then 10 -20 minute question and answer session with pre selected panelists... this is really not enough time to fully cover all of the information i have researched over the last seven years...
Raised Crow
User ID: 212074
2/28/2008 12:01 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

i am giving a presentation this afternoon at the central arizona college... 2012: the myths and theories... i only have 15 minutes to present, then 10 -20 minute question and answer session with pre selected panelists... this is really not enough time to fully cover all of the information i have researched over the last seven years...
 Quoting: SunRa

Tell them something they can use, that way the info will stay with them.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Enoch
User ID: 363539
2/28/2008 12:06 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

SPEAK WHIT YOUR HEART, SUNRA
Enoch
User ID: 363539
2/28/2008 12:07 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

BUEN TRABAJO, TLALOC.
Little Star
User ID: 273434
2/28/2008 12:08 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Thanks Enoch for the song!

Blessings to all
Raised Crow
User ID: 212074
2/28/2008 12:09 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

BUEN TRABAJO, TLALOC.
 Quoting: Enoch

Matt 20:1-16 "For the Kingdom of Heaven is like a man who was the master of a household, who went out early in the morning to hire laborers for his vineyard. When he had agreed with the laborers for a denarius a day, he sent them into his vineyard. He went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace. To them he said, ‘You also go into the vineyard, and whatever is right I will give you.’ So they went their way. Again he went out about the sixth and the ninth hour, and did likewise. About the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle. He said to them, ‘Why do you stand here all day idle?’ "They said to him, ‘Because no one has hired us.’ "He said to them, ‘You also go into the vineyard, and you will receive whatever is right.’ When evening had come, the lord of the vineyard said to his steward, ‘Call the laborers and pay them their wages, beginning from the last to the first.’ "When those who were hired at about the eleventh hour came, they each received a denarius. When the first came, they supposed that they would receive more; and they likewise each received a denarius. When they received it, they murmured against the master of the household, saying, ‘These last have spent one hour, and you have made them equal to us, who have borne the burden of the day and the scorching heat!’ "But he answered one of them, ‘Friend, I am doing you no wrong. Didn’t you agree with me for a denarius? Take that which is yours, and go your way. It is my desire to give to this last just as much as to you. Isn’t it lawful for me to do what I want to with what I own? Or is your eye evil, because I am good?’ So the last will be first, and the first last. For many are called, but few are chosen." (web)

Well, I did agree to the one single denarius... all I need and all.

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[link to www.hitslyrics.com]

That's the aforementioned song. The singer says "I don't want to see animals dying, I'd want to be civilized like the animals tralala".
Civilization means the building of cities. So wrong word, Roberto Carlos. Wrong wrong word.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Enoch
User ID: 363539
2/28/2008 12:10 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

EL HUMILDE CARPINTERO NO ABANDONÓ SU TRABAJO (ÚNICAMENTE AL FINAL), NI SUS SENCILLAS POSESIONES MATERIALES. EL EQUILIBRIO ES IMPRESCINDIBLE. LO ESPIRITUAL NO ESTÁ REÑIDO CON LO MATERIAL, SIEMPRE QUE ESTO ÚLTIMO SEA HONESTO.
A LOS PESCADORES NO SE LES PIDIÓ QUE ABANDONARAN TODO HASTA LLEGADO EL MOMENTO...
Enoch
User ID: 363539
2/28/2008 12:14 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

YOU ARE WELCOME, LITTLE STAR
Enoch
User ID: 363539
2/28/2008 12:17 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

SOMOS LOS HOMBRES LOS QUE DECIDIMOS EN QUE CONVERTIMOS LAS CIUDADES.
EN ESTE CASO R. CARLOS SE REFIERE A LOS SERES QUE HAN DECIDIDO VIVIR EN ARMONÍA, JUNTOS Y RESPETÁNDOSE, JA,JA
Raised Crow
User ID: 212074
2/28/2008 12:24 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

EL HUMILDE CARPINTERO NO ABANDONÓ SU TRABAJO (ÚNICAMENTE AL FINAL),
 Quoting: Enoch

The three posts above are in this one translation.

He says:

The humble carpenter did not abandon his work (only at the end), nor his simple material possessions. Balance can't be done without. The spiritual is not in conflict with the material, as long as this last one is honest.
The fishermen were not asked to abandon all until the moment had come...
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YOU ARE WELCOME, LITTLE STAR
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It is us men who decide what we will turn the cities into.
In this case R. Carlos refers to the beings who have decided to live in harmony, together and respecting one another, ha, ha
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Do I translate the R. Carlos song?

Traduzco la cancion de R. Carlos?
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
SunRa
User ID: 353725
2/28/2008 12:25 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

i appreciate your words to me enoch...
this thread came to my attention to read while i was in the midst of my four hour experience...
Enoch
User ID: 363539
2/28/2008 12:26 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

EN TODO CASO, JUDAS TUVO 30 Y NO FUE FELIZ...
SunRa
User ID: 353725
2/28/2008 12:27 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

He says:

The humble carpenter did not abandon his work (only at the end), nor his simple material possessions. Balance can't be done without. The spiritual is not in conflict with the material, as long as this last one is honest.
The fishermen were not asked to abandon all until the moment had come...
 Quoting: Raised Crow

this answers a question i was holding in my mind about what to do right when i suppose you were typing this...
Enoch
User ID: 363539
2/28/2008 12:27 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

THANK YOU, SUNRA
Enoch
User ID: 363539
2/28/2008 12:50 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Arcano Menor: 30 Intercambio




Arcano 30: EL INTERCAMBIO
como acto de conveniencia recíproca. Simboliza la virtud humana de la vida en sociedad.

Atributo modelador: Está asociado al planeta Júpiter, la letra C y el número 3.
Representa la expansión individual por medio de la convivencia comercial.

Axioma trascendente: "Siega tu tierra con esmero; mas no espigues tu Haza con avaricia".
Enoch
User ID: 363539
2/28/2008 12:54 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

A DIOS A TODOS
GRACIAS
Raised Crow
User ID: 212074
2/28/2008 12:56 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Arcano Menor: 30 Intercambio
 Quoting: Enoch

Minor Arcana: 30 Exchange

Arcana 30: EXCHANGE
as act of reciprocal living together. It symbolizes the human virtue of life in society.

Modeling attribute: It is associated with the planet Jupiter, the letter C and the number 3
It represents individual expansion through commercial living together.

Trascendental axiom: "Sow your land with care; yet do not skim your plot with greed"
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This is not in any Tarot deck I know of. Why does it say "Arcana"?

Esto no esta en ninguna baraja de Tarot que yo conozca. Porque dice "Arcano"?
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Raised Crow
User ID: 212074
2/28/2008 12:57 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

A DIOS A TODOS
GRACIAS
 Quoting: Enoch

Bye. Send something back if you get anything.

Adios. Manda algo de regreso si obtienes algo.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Earth Daughter
User ID: 380684
2/28/2008 1:45 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Interesting thread.

I just read the whole thing. I think I avoided it earlier because I thought it would be another religious thread, throwing bible quotes at us. And the bible has been altered greatly over the years.

I have to say that Enoch's words ring true for me. I believe there is much more he can say, but is holding back. I understand this.

Thank you for your translations, Raised Crow.

And thank you Enoch. Those with ears to hear, will hear.
Raised Crow
User ID: 212074
2/28/2008 3:04 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Interesting thread.

I just read the whole thing. I think I avoided it earlier because I thought it would be another religious thread, throwing bible quotes at us. And the bible has been altered greatly over the years.

I have to say that Enoch's words ring true for me. I believe there is much more he can say, but is holding back. I understand this.
 Quoting: Earth Daughter

Thank you Earth Daughter. I saw the picture you posted the other day in a thread about a great white cross, I rather liked it. I can of course change the thread topic, but "Rapture" is a well-known word that calls up attention from many people. I would rather say "Gathering", but that doesn't have the same punch, now does it.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Enoch
User ID: 382160
2/28/2008 4:07 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

HOLA DE NUEVO A TODOS.
GRACIAS EARTH DAUGHTER, DESAFORTUNADAMENTE, SON POCOS LOS QUE OYEN, SIN EMBARGO, SEGUIREMOS INSISTIENDO.
TLALOC, TAROT EGIPCIO.
Enoch
User ID: 382160
2/28/2008 4:55 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

HOLA DE NUEVO, TLALOC.
SI ALGUIEN TE PIDE LA TRADUCCIÓN DE LA CANCIÓN, Y DESEAS HACERLA, ES TU DECISIÓN. POR MI NO ES NECESARIA.
SALUDOS
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 382412
2/28/2008 5:00 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Every generation of you inbred zealots believes the Rapture or whatever you want to call this crazy crap will happen in your lifetime. Every generation is wrong. Yours is no exception. The only thing that annoys me about this selfimportant bulshit these days is that when you die, you won't how how wrong you are. Cos you'll be DEAD. Deal with it.
Enoch
User ID: 382160
2/28/2008 5:06 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

NO HAY NADA PEOR QUE QUIEN RIE DE LO QUE DESCONOCE
¿DE DONDE VIENE TU CERTEZA?
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