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Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture

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Accompanied Crow
User ID: 212074
3/10/2008 12:08 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Apreciado Anonymous Coward
User ID: 366772:
Gracias por postear en este subforo.
 Quoting: Agustín

Much appreciated Anonymous Coward
User ID: 366772:
Thank you for posting in this thread.
As I have said, we are to be thankful for those informations that would be useful to all, including myself.
I think that you are not receiving part of the information correclty, or they are not being exact due to the evolutionary level they have.

I am not afraid, for I have died many times before. I am one of the "beheaded lambs". When it happens again, if it is to be, although for the moment it is improbable, it will be publicly and according to the "scriptures".

I do fear for the group of the beings of this planet and their inferior planes, for complex times, it appears, are coming. However, my sorrow is controlled, for I know and assume everything as part of the evolutionary process. I lament that with a favorable change in the majority of human beings being possible, the situation is not taken advantage of. No one is exempt from suffering the tribulation, not even me. Continue to come to this appointment if it is your wish and do not fear for me.
Who is with the Father is not against me.
The Light continue always with us.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Accompanied Crow
User ID: 212074
3/10/2008 12:48 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola a todos vosotros.
Que la luz sea y esté en vosotros.

En anteriores informaciones he comentado el valor que tiene la búsqueda de lo trascendente.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 389394


Hello to all of you.
May the light be in you.

In previous informations I have talked about the value that the search for the transcendent has. Besides that, we humans are generally curious, and we marvel at the mazes of imagination, our creation motor. Now well, to each circumstance, and attitude. We are at the edge of a fundamental change which will transform our way of seeing and understanding our own individual and collective reality. This change will affect our planet very greatly as well.
Before this enormously complex and meaningful situation, the answer must be clear and decisive, time is at a premium…
All elaborations are valid and respectable, however, I have to tell you, truly, that some of you lose the center, the essence of the “problem” and go into wandering trails, gardens, or mazes, as you wish to call them, that will only lead you away from what is truly transcendent presently.

I must confess to you that all the history of humanity is interwoven and comes from common aspects, which can go on being revealed little by little. Hundreds of prophecies and visions exist and will exist, but none will save by itself.

I retake what, I trust, is already clear for you and on which I insisted in several of the informations that are found from the first page of this thread, the trust that each of us has to have in knowing us part of the divinity. That lets us know ourselves immortal. Now well, that individual essence is growing. In some it is like a chickpea, in others like a planet. We are all brothers, even though some are more grown and evolved than others. Those of us who have come voluntarily to be among you, have varied tasks, but a common objective, helping you all to evolve to the maximum to face the cosmic changes that approach.

I particularly must give to you my testimony and Word so that you understand that beyond those mazes, the road is in you and before you. The pillars to go into it are simplicity, humility, patience and perseverance. Make yourselves like children, without complications. The simplest is sometimes the hardest to follow. Humble to receive what you do not expect, and eliminate material and spiritual attachments. Patient to understand that what you seek outside is in you. Persevering to not give up.

With these four ultimate virtues and the wish to join yourself with your Father, the best of yourselves, as well as the fuel of Love, any obstacle can be overcome. There is not, whatever the technique or path, any goal if the aformentioned is not met with.

I have died many times because I decided it so, like others, to help, I have been conscious of it. In reality, I have never died. The greatest pain, when I have died for you, like others, has been feeling that, even making real the giving of the spirit, knowledge and the physical body, you all have not woken up. I am calm, for even in the eleventh hour the 144.000 will be able to gether. Be it understood that the sum is 9, the nuimber of humanity. The chosen will be those who L ove (sic). The 9 is also the one of tests, for we are in evolution. I ask you that you reread the informations, they can be useful to you. Make yourselves children.
Thanks to all, and especially to you Tlaloc for continuing to translate.

A hug to all.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 366772
3/10/2008 1:35 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Yes, I agree Accompanied Crow. Much good information included. Love, humility and perserverance. Big changes are coming, I am thinking. In each of us, in part, we receive our own take on what is to come. I suppose I see the nine in a different way than you, but that is aligned with my own prophecy. I am unsure if what I see shall come to pass. I am anxiously awaiting though. What is your part in this Accompanied Crow? You shall be a reliable witness. Thank you all for the welcome.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 363539
3/10/2008 2:06 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

LA PROPIA RESPONSABILIDAD

Voy a referirme tangencialmente a una situación compleja a nivel político entre países, y que tiene analogía con situaciones personales en las que podemos encontrarnos en alguna ocasión.
No intento desarrollar un ensayo exahustivo al respecto, más bien alcanzar algunos paralelismos que nos ayuden a centranos en nuestra realidad planetaria.

Todos recordaremos sin duda la historia de Troya.
La bella Elena se enamoró de un príncipe griego, lo que la hizo abandonar a su esposo. Esta situación desencadenó una guerra en la que miles de hombres murieron.

A raíz de un comentario que uno de vosotros me hiciera, paso a referiros lo siguiente.

Una mujer colombiana, con nacionalidad francesa también, decidió, de modo propio, internarse en una zona no segura de su país. Se encontraba en plena campaña por la presidencia de Colombia. Su deseo de obtener votos la cegó. Entró en la boca del lobo, de la cual, hasta ahora, no ha salido...
Está claro que ella no es la responsable directa de su secuestro, los responsables son sus secuestradores, los que no le dan a la vida ningún valor y siempre enmascaran sus viles propósitos con justificaciones humanitarias.
En todo caso, también es evidente que ella cometió un grave error, del cual está sufriendo, así como su familia, las consecuencias.
Colombia es un país con una historia convulsa y un presente complejo. Tiene muchas virtudes, y aspectos involutivos que deseo supere. Sin embargo, no podemos olvidar que la deseada justicia social no puede llegar de la mano de quienes secuestran, extorsionan, asesinan y trafican con drogas. ¿Están esos individuos con el Padre?
En ocasiones no hay que buscar el infierno fuera de nuestro planeta...
Por otro lado hay un gobierno que intenta sacar adelante un país. Muchos de sus funcionarios cometen ilegalidades, claro está, sin embargo están más cerca de sacar adelante
a ese país. Lo que no se le puede pedir a un presidente que lucha contra los terroristas, es que traicione la propia esencia de la libertad y el derecho. Estoy seguro que él siente casi en carne propia el drama de los secuestrados, pero, cual es la solución, entregar el país oficial y legítimo a los vándalos a cambio de los prisioneros? Únicamente existen dos salidas, o la mezcla de ambas para acabar con el terrorismo. El diálogo y la fuerza. Cuando el diálogo y las negociaciones son traicionadas por los terroristas, solo queda la eliminación...el que tenga ojos que vea...
Si se permite que los vándalos asuman el poder y establezcan sus normas, que queda para los justos?
Así será en la tierra...
Por otro lado, tenemos a los que buscan sacar partido del río revuelto.
No faltaba si no la figura del pequeño dictador de Venezuela, que lleno de egolatría y mesianismo esquizofrénico, desea la desestabilización de buena parte de Ámerica para convertirse en un super Simón Bolívar.
!Que pequeño en esencia, pero que grande en perfídia¡
Desestabilizando a uno de los pocos países que en América lucha por establecer cauces democráticos, logra desestabilizar a la región. Como es posible que un mandatario llore la pérdida de un criminal? Llora una jerarquía por la derrota de un demonio?A lo sumo se puede entristecer por el alma perdida, pero comprende que se ha abierto un camino de libertad y evolución.Ojalá dedicara atención y esmero a su pueblo en plena bonanaza del "excremento del diablo", rédito que dilapida sin cesar...
Por otro lado el mandatario de Ecuador... ¿no se da cuenta de a quien le hace el juego? o más bien !sí lo sabe¡
Por si fuera poco, un presidente europeo, ávido de públlicidad y con el ego engrandecido, va de mesías por la vida sin reparar en los graves asuntos que sí podría resolver a nivel mundial dada su preminente situación y la de su país.
No equivoquemos las cosas, gritar es fácil, engañar lo es aún más, pero como en la guerra de Troya, hay sinceros equivocados, seres viles, astutos serviles y caballos de Troya.
Como es en una país, es en la Tierra, como es en la Tierra es en el Universo, y viceversa.
No me agrada hablar públicamente de política, pero siento que en ocasiones, y aunque todo está manchado en nuestro planeta, es necesario asumir personalmente, nuestras responsabilidades, si otros no lo hacen.
El mundo, dentro de poco, no tendrá barreras, únicamente seres deseosos de avanzar hacia un único objetivo, la armonía y el respeto bajo las leyes universales del AMOR.
No se evoluciona echándole la culpa al empedrado, sino asumiendo nuestra cojera...
La PAZ sea con todos nosotros...
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 363539
3/10/2008 2:09 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Idem, Tlaloc.
Gracias de nuevo.
Accompanied Crow
User ID: 212074
3/10/2008 2:24 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Agustin, I am not translating that. I am too damn out of the loop and concerned about what will be of me at this time.

Agustin, no voy a traducir eso. Estoy demasiado fuera de la informacion y inmiscuido en mi propio futuro previsto en este momento.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Accompanied Crow
User ID: 212074
3/10/2008 3:47 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Aw, shucks, you know how I am.

LA PROPIA RESPONSABILIDAD

Voy a referirme tangencialmente a una situación compleja a nivel político entre países, y que tiene analogía con situaciones personales en las que podemos encontrarnos en alguna ocasión.
No intento desarrollar un ensayo exahustivo al respecto, más bien alcanzar algunos paralelismos que nos ayuden a centranos en nuestra realidad planetaria.

Todos recordaremos sin duda la historia de Troya.
La bella Elena se enamoró de un príncipe griego, lo que la hizo abandonar a su esposo. Esta situación desencadenó una guerra en la que miles de hombres murieron.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 363539

One's Own Responsibility

I will refer tangentially to a situation complex at the political level between countries, and that has analogy with personal situations we might meet with on some occassion.

I do not try to develop an extensive essay regarding it, rather reach some parallel patterns that help us to center ourselves in our planetary reality.

We all remember no doubt the story of Troy.
The beautiful Helen fell in love with a Greek prince, which made her abandon her husband. This situation led in chain reaction to a war in which thousands of men died.

Due to a comment that one of you made, I pass to tell you all the following.
...
(Long discussion on the FARC guerrillas in Colombia, how Colombia's government is better than either Ecuador's or Venezuela's, and how an unnamed European president could make it all right).
...
Let us not mistake things, shouting is easy, fooling even more so, but as in the Trojan war, there are sincere mistaken ones, vile beings, servile clever ones and Trojan horses.

As is in a country, is on Earth, as is on Earth is in the Universe, and vice vera.

I do not like to talk of politics publicly, but I feel that on occassion, and though everything is dirtied in our planet, it is necessary to assume personally, our responsibilites, if others do not.

The world, in a little time, will not have barriers, only beings desirous of advancing towards one sole objective, harmony and respect under the universal laws of LOVE. One does not evolve blaming the cobblestones, but assuming our limp...

PEACE be with all of us...
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
enoch
User ID: 355314
3/10/2008 4:03 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

copper mountian,
Guide Service
User ID: 355314
3/10/2008 4:05 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

secounds to world peace enoch watch time.
SunRa
User ID: 353725
3/10/2008 4:09 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

copper mountain in this thread?

aside from that... i am being more patient than i have ever... i am observing more than ever... being still inside...
Agustín
User ID: 389394
3/10/2008 6:14 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

SUN RA, that is the way, serenity...
Agustín
User ID: 389394
3/10/2008 6:17 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Nothing is closed to de open heart
SunRa
User ID: 353725
3/10/2008 6:19 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

hf
Agustín
User ID: 389394
3/10/2008 6:20 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

THANK YOU, SUN RA
Accompanied Crow
User ID: 212074
3/10/2008 6:22 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Agustin, cambie el nombre del subforo temporalmente para que los que esteen en el foro sepan que estaas aquii. Bien contigo?

Agustin, I changed the thread name temporarily so forum users know you are here. All right with you?
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Agustín
User ID: 389394
3/10/2008 6:24 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

De acuerdo Tlaloc, eres un buen Relaciones Públicas..ha,ha
Agustín
User ID: 389394
3/10/2008 6:28 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

A lo mejor la gente ya tiene sus propias respuestas, ha, ha
Agustín
User ID: 389394
3/10/2008 6:39 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Tlaloc, seems the new name does not work, ha, ha or people dont need to ask anything, maybe
Agustín
User ID: 389394
3/10/2008 6:43 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Bueno, creo que es suficiente por hoy.
Un abrazo para todos.
Hasta luego Tlaloc...
Soulless River
User ID: 389697
3/10/2008 6:44 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hello to you all,

and to you Tlaloc and my good Man Agustin,

i was called here to translate as best i amy the part about the colombian discussion,

i understand the tension Tlaloc feels which is why i am sent here,

i had this exactly yesterday and was on a posting spree i was ordered to stop,

i shall translate now,

Light Be With Us All.

Hola a usted todo,
y a usted Tlaloc y mi buen hombre Agustin,

aquí me llamaron para traducir como lo más mejor posible amy de i la parte sobre la discusión colombiana,

entiendo que la tensión Tlaloc se siente cuál es porqué aquí me envían,

tenía esto exactamente ayer y estaba en una juerga de fijación que me ordenaron parar,

ahora traduciré,

La Luz Esté Con Nosotros Todos.

the long colombian discussion,

A Colombian woman, with French nationality also, decided, of own way, to go into in a nonsafe zone of her country. Was in the heat of campaign by the presidency of Colombia. Its desire to obtain votes blinded it. It entered the mouth of the wolf, which, until now, it has not left... It is clear that she is not the direct person in charge of her kidnapping, the people in charge are his kidnappers, those that do not give to the life any value him and they always mask his vile intentions with humanitarian justifications. In any case, also it is evident that she committed a serious error, of which is suffering, as well as its family, the consequences.

Colombia is a country with a history convulsa and a present complex. It has many involutivos virtues, and aspects that desire surpasses. Nevertheless, we cannot forget that wished social justice cannot arrive from the hand from those who they kidnap, extorts, assassinates and deals with drugs. They are those individuals with the Father? Sometimes it is not necessary to look for hell outside our planet...

On the other hand there is a government who tries to remove ahead a country. Many of their civil employees commit illegalities, of course, nevertheless they are more near removing ahead to that country. What it is not possible to be asked to him a president who fights against the terrorists, he is that he betrays the own essence of the freedom and the right. I am sure that it almost feels in own meat the drama of the kidnapped ones, but, as is the solution, to give the official and legitimate country to the vandals in exchange for the prisoners? Two exits exist solely, or the mixture of both to end the terrorism. The dialogue and the force. When the dialogue and the negotiations are betrayed by the terrorists, single the elimination has left... the one that has eyes that see...

If he allows himself that the vandals assume the power and settle down their norms, that are for the right ones? Thus he will be in the Earth... On the other hand, we have to that look for to take advantage of the scrambled river.

It did not lack if not the figure of the small dictator of Venezuela, that full of egolatría and schizophrenic messianism, wishes the destabilization of good part of Ámerica to become a super Simón Bolivar. !Que small in essence, but that great in perfídia Destabilizing to one of the few countries that in America fight to establish democratic channels, manages to destabilize to the region. As it is possible that an agent chief executive cries the loss of a criminal? A hierarchy by the defeat of demonio?A cries extreme it can be saddened by the lost soul, but it includes/understands that a freedom way has been opened and evolución.Ojalá in the heat of dedicated to attention and care to its town bonanaza of the "excrement of the devil", yield that squanders incessantly...

On the other hand the agent chief executive of Ecuador... does not occur account of a that matches to him? or rather!sí it knows it In case outside little, a president European, eager for públlicidad and with the engrandecido ego, goes of mesías by the life without repairing in the serious subjects that yes could solve at world-wide level given their preminente situation and the one of his country.

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i hope i did well Tlaloc look over these translations and corrct me, i will edit them,

i hope i didntmake trouble and especially to you my good Man Agustin.

i think i feel both excitement and a strange calmness, but i feel also the panic when i look to see further how these epople who dont know will act,

i think your talk about troy and columbia tells us to make difference between good people who werre once guardians of knowledge and power and were tricked by Evil, to do evil,

and their own sincerety and strength was distorted,

and it is the same in the columbia story,

and i think your talk tells us to make difference between those sincere and those who spied on them and guided their sincere wishes to be corrupt, and they also corrupted them,

you are telling us to know between how amy one oappear to be furthering good but is doing evil in the name of humanity, and how one may appear corrupt and is infact simply sincere in the trick he was tricked,

am i right?

Digo :

espero que manara mirada de Tlaloc sobre estas traducciones y el corrct yo, yo las corregirá, espero apuro del didntmake de i y especialmente a usted mi buen hombre Agustin.

pienso que siento el entusiasmo y un calmness extraño, pero siento también el pánico cuando miro para ver más lejos cómo este actuará el epople que no saben, pienso que sus hablan de troy y Colombia nos dice diferenciar entre la gente el bueno que del werre a Evil trampearon a los guardas una vez del conocimiento y de la energía y, para hacer mal, y su propio sincerety y fuerza fueron torcidas,

y está igual en la historia de Colombia, y pienso su charla nos dice que para hacer diferencia entre esos sinceros y los que espiaron en ellos y dirigieron sus deseos sinceros para ser corruptos, y los también los corrompiera, usted nos está diciendo saber entre cómo el amy uno oappear ser el fomentar bueno pero está haciendo mal en el nombre de la humanidad, y cómo una puede aparecer corrupta y es infact simplemente sincero en el truco que lo trampearon,

¿tengo razón?

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now i shall silently watch but if you need me send for me and i shall come,

thank you my good Man Agustin and thank you Tlaloc,

i hope you are both well, and you too Sun Ra.

Light Be With Ua All.

ahora miraré silenciosamente pero si usted me necesita envía para mí y yo vendré,

gracias mi buen hombre Agustin y gracias Tlaloc,

espero que usted sea ambos bien, y usted también SunRa.

La Luz Esté Con UA Todo.
Soulless River
User ID: 389697
3/10/2008 6:45 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hello to you all,

and to you Tlaloc and my good Man Agustin,

i was called here to translate as best i amy the part about the colombian discussion,

i understand the tension Tlaloc feels which is why i am sent here,

i had this exactly yesterday and was on a posting spree i was ordered to stop,

i shall translate now,

Light Be With Us All.

Hola a usted todo,
y a usted Tlaloc y mi buen hombre Agustin,

aquí me llamaron para traducir como lo más mejor posible amy de i la parte sobre la discusión colombiana,

entiendo que la tensión Tlaloc se siente cuál es porqué aquí me envían,

tenía esto exactamente ayer y estaba en una juerga de fijación que me ordenaron parar,

ahora traduciré,

La Luz Esté Con Nosotros Todos.

the long colombian discussion,

A Colombian woman, with French nationality also, decided, of own way, to go into in a nonsafe zone of her country. Was in the heat of campaign by the presidency of Colombia. Its desire to obtain votes blinded it. It entered the mouth of the wolf, which, until now, it has not left... It is clear that she is not the direct person in charge of her kidnapping, the people in charge are his kidnappers, those that do not give to the life any value him and they always mask his vile intentions with humanitarian justifications. In any case, also it is evident that she committed a serious error, of which is suffering, as well as its family, the consequences.

Colombia is a country with a history convulsa and a present complex. It has many involutivos virtues, and aspects that desire surpasses. Nevertheless, we cannot forget that wished social justice cannot arrive from the hand from those who they kidnap, extorts, assassinates and deals with drugs. They are those individuals with the Father? Sometimes it is not necessary to look for hell outside our planet...

On the other hand there is a government who tries to remove ahead a country. Many of their civil employees commit illegalities, of course, nevertheless they are more near removing ahead to that country. What it is not possible to be asked to him a president who fights against the terrorists, he is that he betrays the own essence of the freedom and the right. I am sure that it almost feels in own meat the drama of the kidnapped ones, but, as is the solution, to give the official and legitimate country to the vandals in exchange for the prisoners? Two exits exist solely, or the mixture of both to end the terrorism. The dialogue and the force. When the dialogue and the negotiations are betrayed by the terrorists, single the elimination has left... the one that has eyes that see...

If he allows himself that the vandals assume the power and settle down their norms, that are for the right ones? Thus he will be in the Earth... On the other hand, we have to that look for to take advantage of the scrambled river.

It did not lack if not the figure of the small dictator of Venezuela, that full of egolatría and schizophrenic messianism, wishes the destabilization of good part of Ámerica to become a super Simón Bolivar. !Que small in essence, but that great in perfídia Destabilizing to one of the few countries that in America fight to establish democratic channels, manages to destabilize to the region. As it is possible that an agent chief executive cries the loss of a criminal? A hierarchy by the defeat of demonio?A cries extreme it can be saddened by the lost soul, but it includes/understands that a freedom way has been opened and evolución.Ojalá in the heat of dedicated to attention and care to its town bonanaza of the "excrement of the devil", yield that squanders incessantly...

On the other hand the agent chief executive of Ecuador... does not occur account of a that matches to him? or rather!sí it knows it In case outside little, a president European, eager for públlicidad and with the engrandecido ego, goes of mesías by the life without repairing in the serious subjects that yes could solve at world-wide level given their preminente situation and the one of his country.

---------

i hope i did well Tlaloc look over these translations and corrct me, i will edit them,

i hope i didntmake trouble and especially to you my good Man Agustin.

i think i feel both excitement and a strange calmness, but i feel also the panic when i look to see further how these epople who dont know will act,

i think your talk about troy and columbia tells us to make difference between good people who werre once guardians of knowledge and power and were tricked by Evil, to do evil,

and their own sincerety and strength was distorted,

and it is the same in the columbia story,

and i think your talk tells us to make difference between those sincere and those who spied on them and guided their sincere wishes to be corrupt, and they also corrupted them,

you are telling us to know between how amy one oappear to be furthering good but is doing evil in the name of humanity, and how one may appear corrupt and is infact simply sincere in the trick he was tricked,

am i right?

Digo :

espero que manara mirada de Tlaloc sobre estas traducciones y el corrct yo, yo las corregirá, espero apuro del didntmake de i y especialmente a usted mi buen hombre Agustin.

pienso que siento el entusiasmo y un calmness extraño, pero siento también el pánico cuando miro para ver más lejos cómo este actuará el epople que no saben, pienso que sus hablan de troy y Colombia nos dice diferenciar entre la gente el bueno que del werre a Evil trampearon a los guardas una vez del conocimiento y de la energía y, para hacer mal, y su propio sincerety y fuerza fueron torcidas,

y está igual en la historia de Colombia, y pienso su charla nos dice que para hacer diferencia entre esos sinceros y los que espiaron en ellos y dirigieron sus deseos sinceros para ser corruptos, y los también los corrompiera, usted nos está diciendo saber entre cómo el amy uno oappear ser el fomentar bueno pero está haciendo mal en el nombre de la humanidad, y cómo una puede aparecer corrupta y es infact simplemente sincero en el truco que lo trampearon,

¿tengo razón?

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now i shall silently watch but if you need me send for me and i shall come,

thank you my good Man Agustin and thank you Tlaloc,

i hope you are both well, and you too Sun Ra.

Light Be With Ua All.

ahora miraré silenciosamente pero si usted me necesita envía para mí y yo vendré,

gracias mi buen hombre Agustin y gracias Tlaloc,

espero que usted sea ambos bien, y usted también SunRa.

La Luz Esté Con UA Todo.
Agustín
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3/10/2008 6:51 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

There are many things I want to say on it.
Soulless River
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3/10/2008 6:55 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

entonces mi buen hombre habla muy bien y traduciré como puedo lo más mejor posible con el Web page.

y gracias, luz esté en usted,

Enciéndase Esté Con Nosotros Todos.
Accompanied Crow
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3/10/2008 6:57 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

There are many things I want to say on it.
 Quoting: Agustín

I left your discussion on Colombia untranslated because it did not seem relevant, since the whole thing is important mostly in Spanish-speaking countries, and this forum is in English. You could of course make the example with something else.

Deje tu discusion de Colombia sin traducir porque no pareciia relevante, ya que todo ello es importante principalmente en paises de habla hispana, y este foro es en inglees. Claro estaa podriias ejemplificar con otra cosa.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Agustín
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3/10/2008 7:02 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Entiendo lo que dices Tlaloc, y no insisto en que
la traduzcas, sin embargo, mi mensaje es universal, y no necesita ser trasladado a otros países, pues la enseñanza no es local.
No solamente hablo de países y conflictos políticos, busco el sentido común en cada uno de nosotros y el simil entre nuestro planeta y los del universo.
Agustín
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3/10/2008 7:03 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Thank you River
Accompanied Crow
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3/10/2008 7:04 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Entiendo lo que dices Tlaloc, y no insisto en que
la traduzcas, sin embargo, mi mensaje es universal, y no necesita ser trasladado a otros países, pues la enseñanza no es local.
No solamente hablo de países y conflictos políticos, busco el sentido común en cada uno de nosotros y el simil entre nuestro planeta y los del universo.
 Quoting: Agustín

Yeah, exactly, that is why I did translate the beginning and the ending.

Si, exacto, por eso sii traducii el principio y el final.
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Soulless River, could you indicate what post you are translating when you post it again? It is getting confusing between them and the repeat posts.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Soulless River
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3/10/2008 7:06 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Thank you my good Man Agustin, and thank you Tlaloc.

Light Be With Us All.
Agustín
User ID: 389394
3/10/2008 7:08 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Gracias a todos. Ya es hora de descansar.
Espero contactar con todos mañana.
La LUZ y la humildad sea con todos nosotros.
Á men
Soulless River
User ID: 389697
3/10/2008 7:14 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

yes yes sorry i forgot,

here are the parts i translated,

Una mujer colombiana, con nacionalidad francesa también, decidió, de modo propio, internarse en una zona no segura de su país. Se encontraba en plena campaña por la presidencia de Colombia. Su deseo de obtener votos la cegó. Entró en la boca del lobo, de la cual, hasta ahora, no ha salido...
Está claro que ella no es la responsable directa de su secuestro, los responsables son sus secuestradores, los que no le dan a la vida ningún valor y siempre enmascaran sus viles propósitos con justificaciones humanitarias.
En todo caso, también es evidente que ella cometió un grave error, del cual está sufriendo, así como su familia, las consecuencias.
Colombia es un país con una historia convulsa y un presente complejo. Tiene muchas virtudes, y aspectos involutivos que deseo supere. Sin embargo, no podemos olvidar que la deseada justicia social no puede llegar de la mano de quienes secuestran, extorsionan, asesinan y trafican con drogas. ¿Están esos individuos con el Padre?
En ocasiones no hay que buscar el infierno fuera de nuestro planeta...
Por otro lado hay un gobierno que intenta sacar adelante un país. Muchos de sus funcionarios cometen ilegalidades, claro está, sin embargo están más cerca de sacar adelante
a ese país. Lo que no se le puede pedir a un presidente que lucha contra los terroristas, es que traicione la propia esencia de la libertad y el derecho. Estoy seguro que él siente casi en carne propia el drama de los secuestrados, pero, cual es la solución, entregar el país oficial y legítimo a los vándalos a cambio de los prisioneros? Únicamente existen dos salidas, o la mezcla de ambas para acabar con el terrorismo. El diálogo y la fuerza. Cuando el diálogo y las negociaciones son traicionadas por los terroristas, solo queda la eliminación...el que tenga ojos que vea...
Si se permite que los vándalos asuman el poder y establezcan sus normas, que queda para los justos?
Así será en la tierra...
Por otro lado, tenemos a los que buscan sacar partido del río revuelto.
No faltaba si no la figura del pequeño dictador de Venezuela, que lleno de egolatría y mesianismo esquizofrénico, desea la desestabilización de buena parte de Ámerica para convertirse en un super Simón Bolívar.
!Que pequeño en esencia, pero que grande en perfídia¡
Desestabilizando a uno de los pocos países que en América lucha por establecer cauces democráticos, logra desestabilizar a la región. Como es posible que un mandatario llore la pérdida de un criminal? Llora una jerarquía por la derrota de un demonio?A lo sumo se puede entristecer por el alma perdida, pero comprende que se ha abierto un camino de libertad y evolución.Ojalá dedicara atención y esmero a su pueblo en plena bonanaza del "excremento del diablo", rédito que dilapida sin cesar...
Por otro lado el mandatario de Ecuador... ¿no se da cuenta de a quien le hace el juego? o más bien !sí lo sabe¡
Por si fuera poco, un presidente europeo, ávido de públlicidad y con el ego engrandecido, va de mesías por la vida sin reparar en los graves asuntos que sí podría resolver a nivel mundial dada su preminente situación y la de su país.

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