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Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture

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Agustín
User ID: 488960
8/21/2008 7:29 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola Tlaloc

La vida no sólo depende de uno, si no también de los otros.

Un abrazo
Aztec Cavalry
User ID: 492212
9/1/2008 8:49 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

He says,

Hello Tlaloc

Life doesn't depend only on oneself, but also on others.

A hug.
Radiant Crow
User ID: 492212
9/28/2008 10:52 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Morning.

Now, although I have had hints, I have only predicted the date of the Gathering, let's call it that, once before. Now it seems fit to call it again, based on a few things, but mostly a simple message I received some minutes ago:

'If I'm here tomorrow, I'm in trouble'.

Just got it in my head, it sort of formed itself quietly, as if it filled in a structure already in my brain. For what it's worth, I have heard in several synchs, and in dreams, that I'm in a special group.

That is the complete text of it, it is also easily turned to 'You' or 'We'. Take notice too, some versions say the Gathering will affect everyone, simply some people will be going one place, others to other places. CERN was apparently built as a way for a few people to escape this judgment.. and it failed.

So hey.
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EDIT-Objectives in negotiation.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Radiant Crow
User ID: 492212
9/30/2008 1:11 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Crooked two-day delays..
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 454457
9/30/2008 4:36 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Its all good.

The 'gathering' really cant be predicted.. Somewhere, the first flame is dwindling before its next breath that ignites all other flames to fire.

:)
Agustín
User ID: 514003
9/30/2008 6:56 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola a ambos.
Un abrazo y el deseo de que nuestro proceso sea exitoso y concluya "pronto" y favorablemente.
Radiant Crow
User ID: 492212
10/1/2008 8:27 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola a ambos.
Un abrazo y el deseo de que nuestro proceso sea exitoso y concluya "pronto" y favorablemente.
 Quoting: Agustín

He says:

Hello to both of you (?)
A hug and the wish that our process be successful and end "soon" and favorably.

--------------------
Need some help man. I kind of got myself into a ball over some decisions that have been right, but have also made life difficult.

Oye, necesito algo de ayuda. Me he metido en algunos problemas por algunas decisiones que han sido correctas, pero que tambien han hecho dificil la vida.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Agustín
User ID: 515652
10/2/2008 8:35 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola Tlaloc:
Recuerda que te comenté que tendrías muchas dificultades, sin embargo, si piensas que hiciste lo correcto, felicitaciones.
Si me explicas en que puedo orientarte, sin duda lo haré, y espero acertar en ello...
Un gran abrazo
Radiant Crow
User ID: 517629
10/4/2008 9:18 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola Tlaloc:
Recuerda que te comenté que tendrías muchas dificultades, sin embargo, si piensas que hiciste lo correcto, felicitaciones.
Si me explicas en que puedo orientarte, sin duda lo haré, y espero acertar en ello...
Un gran abrazo
 Quoting: Agustín

He says:

Hello Tlaloc:
Remember that I told you you would have many difficulties, however, if you think you did the right thing, congratulations. If you explain to me how I can orient you, doubtless I will, and I hope to be right on it..
A great hug.
----------------------
Just in a tight spot, and I'm willing to do what I must, as soon as I see it. I wonder about moving from the house I live in, for example.

Solo en un momento dificil, y estoy dispuesto a hacer lo qeu deba, cuando logre verlo. Me pregunto sobre si he de mudarme de la casa en la que vivo, por ejemplo.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Agustín
User ID: 525759
10/14/2008 6:36 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola.

TODO es cambiante. YO SOY YO y mis circunstancias...
Dejar el espacio físico puede ser propicio, más no abandonar
el hogar, que se lleva en el corazón, con sosiego y equilibrando las emociones... por el bien de UNO mismo y el de los demás.
Un abrazo
Aztec Cavalry
User ID: 545151
11/12/2008 1:44 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola.

TODO es cambiante. YO SOY YO y mis circunstancias...
Dejar el espacio físico puede ser propicio, más no abandonar
el hogar, que se lleva en el corazón, con sosiego y equilibrando las emociones... por el bien de UNO mismo y el de los demás.
Un abrazo
 Quoting: Agustín


He says:

Hello.

All is changeable. I am I and my circumstances... Leaving your physical space can be approppriate, but not so your home, which is carried in the heart, with calm and balancing the emotions...for the good of ONE self and that of the others.

A hug.
=====================
The world is a strange place, I'll say I'm from it.

El mundo es raro, les diree que de ahii lleguee.

Jose Alfredo Jimenez, "Un Mundo Raro".
Agustín
User ID: 363539
11/12/2008 11:34 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola Tlaloc:
Deseo te encuentres muy bien.

LA CRISIS

En uno de mis comentarios -ubicado en las primeras páginas de este subforo- utilicé la forma geométrica de la pirámide para explicar la evolución de cada ser dentro del universo. Sugiero leerla o releerla a fin de comprender mejor este escrito...
Ahora volveré a emplear la misma figura -aunque de manera distinta- para referirme a la actual crisis económica mundial.
El proceso evolutivo hacia la LUZ obligatoriamente pasa por el desarrollo de habilidades espirituales (fundamentalmente) a través de los diferentes niveles de la pirámide, desde la base hasta el intangible vértice. En todo caso, el proceso es ascendente, y el SER evoluciona constantmente si es su deseo, claro está...
En el actual modelo económico (carente de LUZ en gran medida) la EVOLUCIÓN como tal no existe, únicamente el espejismo de la misma. El paradigma se estructura de forma tal que al vértice únicamente puedan acceder el menor número de seres posible, pues lo más conveniente es que en la base se encuentren la mayoría, asegurándose de esta forma seres "esclavos" de la maquinaria económica. Claro está que existen aún peores modelos económicos, sin embargo, no es este el momento para referirme a ellos. Lo importante estriba en que el actual "sistema materialista" no puede continuar, pues en esta actual transición planetaria, hacia un plano espiritual superior, no puede existir un planteamiento económico aferrado fundamentalmente a la prosperidad material, y encima para unos pocos solamente.
La crisis continuará y se acentuará cada vez más, excepto por breves períodos de aparente pujanza económica, pues de no alterarse en gran medida el actual planteamiento filosófico que sustenta a nuestras sociedades y sus economías, el desastre o crack sucederá, y puede que muy pronto.
Escucho, veo y leo sobre el particular y siento que estoy en una especie de aquelarre (vean las obras de Goya) donde sesudos economistas, importantes políticos, ricos empresarios, destacados dirigentes sindicales, etc, etc, etc, así como reputados periodistas y gentes de toda condición, consideran que con inyectar dinero a diestra y siniestra (más siniestra que otra cosa) y ...
Agustín
User ID: 363539
11/12/2008 11:44 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

fiscalizando al detalle todas las operaciones (ja, ja) el mundo saldrá adelante...
Nada más alejado de la verdad. Lo único que puede verdaderamente transformar esta incipiente crisis en verdadera pujanza económica, es un nuevo modelo basado en
valores espirituales sólidos.
URGE, sí, URGE un acuerdo entre TODOS y cada uno de los países que así lo deseen, donde se contemple un trato de solidaridad y en el que los individuos sean los verdaderos destinatarios de la bonanza económica. Muchos dirán que esto es imposible, pero esa forma de pensar es fruto de la ignorancia o el egoísmo, pues si la riqueza material llega a más individuos, más riqueza se creará para los demás.
Incluso aquellos seres que miran más para sí mismos que para los otros, pueden entender que cuantas más personas puedan adquirir bienes, mejor será para ellos.
Sin embargo, ese compromiso no puede quedarse únicamente
en acuerdos económicos, es imprescindible que se hable de un desarrollo sostenible que tome en cuenta a la naturaleza, y que establezca acuerdos en aspectos diversos, pues el tiempo apremia y el problema es difícil de solucionar.
No es tiempo de retóricas, si no de compromisos (que se cumplan). Es un momento IDEAL para refundar muchos de nuestros basamentos, ya que el "mundo" tiene miedo, y desea soluciones, no aquelarres.

LA VOLUNTAD SEA CON TODOS NOSOTROS
Radiant Crow
User ID: 552598
11/16/2008 6:52 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola Tlaloc:
Deseo te encuentres muy bien.

LA CRISIS
 Quoting: Agustín


He says:
Hello Tlaloc:
I wish that you be very well.
The Crisis
In one of my comments-located in the first pages of this thread-I used the geometric shape of the pyramid to explain the evolution of each being in the universe. I suggest you read or reread it to understand this message better...

Now I will again use the same shape-though in a different way- to refer to the present world economic crisis.

The evolutionary process towards the LIGHT forcibly passes through the development of spiritual (fundamentally) abilities through the different levels of the pyramid, from the base to the untouched vortex. In any case, the process goes upwards, and the BEING evolves constantly if it is his wish, of course... In the present economic model (largely lacking in LIGHT) EVOLUTION as such does not exist, only its mirage. The paradigm is structured in such a way that the vortex is reached only by the least possible amount of beings, for the most convenient thing is for the majority to be on the base, in this way ensuring there will be beings who will be "slaves" to the economic machinery.

Of course that even worse economic models exist, however, this is not the moment to refer to them. The important thing is that the present "materialist system" cannot continue, for in the present planetary transition, towards a higher spiritual plane, there cannot exist an economic paradigm based principally on material prosperity, and even then only for a few people.

The crisis will continue and become ever worse, except for brief periods of apparent economic dynamism, for if the present philosphical paradigm that holds up our societies and economies is not changed, the disaster or crack will happen, and it could be very soon. I listen, I see and read on the particulars and feel that I am in a kind of frenzy (see the works of Goya(He uses the word 'Aquelarre', the name of one of Francisco Goya's paintings. -ED)) where brainy economists, important politicians, rich businessmen, prominent union leaders etc, etc, etc, as well as respected journalists and people of all walks of life, consider that by injecting in money to right and left (more to lefthanded ends than to anything else) and taxing all money movements (ha, ha) the world will do well...

Nothing farther from the truth. The only thing that can truly transform thsi budding crisis in a true economic dynamism, is a new model based on solid spiritual values. It is URGENT, yes, URGENT, to have an agreement among EACH and every one of the countries that so desire, where a treaty of solidarity is drawn out and in which individuals shall be the true recipients of the economic bounty. Many will say that this is impossible, but that way of thinking is derived from ignorance or selfishness, for if material wealth reaches more individuals, more wealth will be created for all the others.

Even those beings that look out more for themselves than for others, can understand that the more people are able to acquire goods, the better it will be for them. However, this commitment cannot stop at economic agreements, it is essential to talk of sustainable development that takes nature into account, and that establishes agreements in diverse aspects, for time is short and the problem is hard to solve.
It is not time for rethoric, but of commitments (that are kept). It is an IDEAL moment to reestablish many of our bases, for the "world" is afraid, and wishes for solutions, not controversies.

WILL BE WITH ALL OF US
----------------------------

If I may add something, the return of production and consumption to the local sphere, however gradually, is more useful and important for attaining balance than any global agreement on global measures.

Si puedo annadir algo, el regreso de la produccion y el consumo a la esfera local, aunque sea gradual, es maas util y maas importante para logar el balance que cualquier acuerdo global sobre medidas globales.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Agustín
User ID: 553004
11/17/2008 10:00 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Gracias por la traducción Tlaloc.

Respecto a tu último comentario, tienes razón en lo que concierne a incidir en la producción y consumo a nivel local. Sin embargo, esa actitud es más bien recomendable para sobrellevar los difíciles tiempos que van a venir si se desencadenan transformaciones físicas de carácter traumático en La Tierra. Me explico, la energía positiva que viene actuando, en oposición a la negativa, tiende, por su propia naturaleza, a sumar, adicionar, GLOBALIZAR.
Ahora bien, como nuestros intereses a nivel colectivo están orientados más a lo MATERIAL (materia, en cualquier manifestación) que a lo ESPIRITUAL, esa energía la asumimos en nuestro planeta fundamentalmente orientada hacia la economía.
Luego, y tomando en consideración lo anterior, es FUNDAMENTAL, aglutinar, GLOBALIZAR herramientas a nivel de TODA LA TIERRA, a fin de que la solución pueda contrarrestar la energía negativa (oscura) que pretende fragmentar, atomizar y anarquizar los endebles lazos de unión entre individuos, sociedades, países, etc.
De no lograrse una solución globalizada, conflictos de toda índole aflorarán como hasta ahora no se han visto en LA TIERRA.
Imagina a cientos de millones de personas sin empleos, en sociedades prósperas o en vías de alcanzarla, sin esperanza, en un entorno político enrarecido y en donde las estructuras de poder van perdiendo fuerza pues cada vez recaudan menos y están presionadas por todos lados...enfrentados países contra países, multinacionales intentado devorarse entre ellas, la "justicia" colapsando por presiones de toda índole y falta de recursos...en fin, el escenario es dantesco.
Por ello, estamos en un período de inflexión tremendamente delicado, casi inimaginable por la mayoría.
Ahora bien, y como he apuntado en diversas oportunidades, los que tienen todavía LUZ vibrando internamente y anhelo de evolucionar espiritualmente, deben actuar con honestidad y sabiduría para sobrevivir a estas situaciones, cooperar en solucionarlas, más no involucrarse
completamente, pues no debe abandonarse el trabajo interior.
También es fundamental preparar a sus seres queridos -SIN OBLIGAR- para el presente y futuro.
Dentro de esos preparativos, tomar en cuenta lo local como apuntas, pues es la ampliación más cercana de nuestro hogar, y posiblemente refugio temporal durante los tiempos de LA CRISIS.

Un abrazo.
Agustín
User ID: 553004
11/17/2008 10:10 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

SERENIDAD, MUCHA SERENIDAD Y COMPROMISO CON NUESTROS MÁS ALTOS VALORES.

"MORAL Y LUCES SON NUESTRAS PRIMERAS NECESIDADES"
Simón Bolívar
Radiant Crow
User ID: 554142
11/20/2008 9:31 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

SERENIDAD, MUCHA SERENIDAD Y COMPROMISO CON NUESTROS MÁS ALTOS VALORES.

"MORAL Y LUCES SON NUESTRAS PRIMERAS NECESIDADES"
Simón Bolívar
 Quoting: Agustín


He says:

SERENITY, LOTS OF SERENITY AND COMMITMENT WITH OUR HIGHEST VALUES.

'MORALITY AND LIGHTS (UNDERSTANDING) ARE OUR FIRST NECCESSITIES''
-Simon Bolivar
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 548758
11/20/2008 9:37 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

hello everyone... this is sunra... i interacted in the original thread for a while...
i was not actually aware there was a continuing thread here... found it now...
::smiles::
i have a question if it can be answered...
what is the significance of my ability to see the ufo lights in the sky? the one's described in middle east as jin/spirits... it is like the stars come alive sometimes... two, three... last night i saw one again...
Agustín
User ID: 555290
11/20/2008 10:59 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola Sun Ra y Tlaloc.

Lo que comentas Sun, respecto a ver espíritus, ovnis, etc, es una habilidad positiva intrínseca a tu propio desarrollo, así como una herramienta que te puede ser útil en determinadas circunstancias. Quizá lo más importante de todo esto es que esa capacidad es posible que pueda ayudar a otros. Tu Real Ser responderá a esta interrogante a partir del momento en que le solicites respuesta e ello.
Recuerda que siempre es conveniente protegerse pidiéndole a nuestro PADRE, Cristo interno, presencia YO SOY, etc, pues no siempre las entidades, e incluso los ufos son positivos, aunque desde hace tiempo están bastante controlados los negativos en ese aspecto.

Un abrazo
Agustín
User ID: 555290
11/20/2008 11:01 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Por cierto Sun, un SER que se encuentra en evolución, no necesariamente tiene que tener esas capacidades. Existen personas a las cuales no se les facilita tener esas visiones, por no ser necesarias en su desarrollo.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 548758
11/20/2008 12:01 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

thank you for your response agustin...

i did wonder this time, whether god had anything to do with it... it was a rather strange experience... my telepathy is not that good, and words get in the way of the communication... it seemed to answer to what was in my mind... and then when my god issue came up, there seemed to be confusion within myself which straightened out the movement of the light...

like, when i was more expanded and not a conflicted limited being it would wobble, and when i was harder and confused it remained straight...

i just don't understand how this is useful... even though i find myself looking up with longing quite often... you know? maybe just a version of instilling hope within me? lately hope has been at stake, and then back again in the heart, and then far far away, and then back...
Agustín
User ID: 555290
11/20/2008 12:11 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola de nuevo Sun.

Ocurre que en determinadas situaciones de nuestra vida, se hace necesario contar con ciertas señales que nos brinden confianza, optimismo, etc. Recuerda que aunque no tengas plena comunicación con tus maestros espirituales, ellos están cerca de tí. La forma en que ellos enseñan es compleja y fruto de una mezcla de diversos factores;el propio nivel evolutivo de esos maestros, el tuyo, el entorno, así como tu capacidad para evolucionar.
Suelen ser duros y exigentes en el aprendizaje, pero a veces, y a cuentagotas, dejar caer visiblemente alguna señal que nos reconforta y nos brinda estímulo para continuar el camino. En otras ocasiones es como una pequeña bofetada para hacernos sentir que la dirección adecuada es distinta a la que llevamos.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 548758
11/20/2008 12:33 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

it was nice to see... and it certainly is a personal experience... the first time i saw the lights move in the sky i had wanted to tell everyone about it... but when i stopped looking and went back into the house, it was like it didn't really happen, i knew it did, but there was no desire to go around talking about ufo's and the like..
it was like that this time... it was my intention to tell my husband and others when i got back inside... but upon entering the room i had no desire to share the experience and said nothing...

i have been going through some rapid soul repair over the last months... i herniated a lumbar disk... the pain from the herniation was incredible and for a month i was crying every day out of not only pain, but extreme anxiety, loss of hope, and all manner of hopeless feelings... it would force me to cry out to god... i soon realized that my condition was built up from my own negative thought patterns and actions in life... and i have not been a very good spiritual student or daughter for god... so this literally forced me to call out to god and reconnect... it forced me to use what i do know of energy working and surrender to let go of the fear and pain and anxiety and get back to NOW and GOD and simple experiences...

i had thought i would not ever see another one of those moving lights...
Agustín
User ID: 555290
11/20/2008 12:44 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Gracias por tu sinceridad Sun Ra.
Confío en que vayas equilibrando tus propios pensamientos, palabras y acciones.
Tienes la capacidad para guiar a muchos, y posiblemente
sea necesario en algún momento...
Aviva tu LUZ y sé lámpara de los tuyos y de los demás.
Agustín
User ID: 556203
11/21/2008 4:21 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola Tlaloc.
Releyendo por encima lo escrito en este foro, siento satisfacción por lo vertido en él, debido a todos.
Espero que todo vaya mejorando, y se sumen más participaciones.
Un abrazo.
Agustín
User ID: 558190
11/24/2008 1:14 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

POSIBLEMENTE UN DÍA MUY INTERESANTE
Radiant Crow
User ID: 554142
11/26/2008 6:21 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Gracias por tu sinceridad Sun Ra.
Confío en que vayas equilibrando tus propios pensamientos, palabras y acciones.
 Quoting: Agustín

He says,
Thanks for your sincerity Sun Ra.
I trust in that you can gradually balance your own thoughts, words, and actions.
You have the capacity to guide many, and possibly it will be necessary in some moment...
Strengthen your LIGHT and be a lamp to yourself and others.
---------------------------

Hey Tlaloc.
Lightly rereading what has been written in this thread, I feel satisfaction for what is put into it, because of everyone.
I hope that everything gradually improves, and more posts are made.
A hug.
Agustin
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POSSIBLY A VERY INTERESTING DAY

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Yo tuve un día muy interesante dos días antes, el 22, y ahora con los ataques en India, dos días después, hay más que ver. Yo también erro en mis predicciones por dos días, constantemente, siempre el mismo plazo.

I had a very interesting day two days before, on the 22, and now with the India attacks, two days afterwards, there is more to see. I also miss in my predictions by two days, constantly, always the same distance.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Agustín
User ID: 560201
11/27/2008 3:11 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola de nuevo Tlaloc.
Efectivamente, estamos asistiendo a un panorama político, económico, social e incluso físico convulsionado, propio de
un período de transición hacia circunstancias más complejas y difíciles.
Lamentablemente no estamos siendo capaces los seres que poblamos este planeta, de acometer correctamente estas situaciones, ya que no resolvemos los aspectos fundamentales que originan tales crisis, únicamente, y en el mejor de los casos, ponemos "paños calientes" para seguir adelante un tiempo más.
Evidentemente, cualquier solución provisional tendrá, igualmente, beneficios provisionales.
Por ejemplo...si al menos uno de los enclaves palestinos (Gaza o Cisjordania) no logra frenar el terrorismo, así como adoptar una fórmula válida que ofrecer al gobierno de Israel, y éste último no se compromete a cumplir verdaderamente con el compromiso de respetar ese enclave, de permitirle formar un estado palestino, respetar las fronteras, e incluso colaborar para su desarrollo, no será posible la PAZ.
Agustín
User ID: 560201
11/27/2008 3:20 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Si la India no solventa sus profundas diferencias sociales, religiosas y económicas, seguirá cosechando kharma, que la cobran los fanáticos religiosos musulmanes, sean de Pakistán, Afganistan o cualquier otro país.
Si en USA no se cambia el patrón materialista y se decide incidir en mayor medida sobre el desarrollo de la paz y prosperidad de otros pueblos, no podrá seguir siendo el líder del mundo.
Si Rusia no se democratiza, elimina la corrupción, mafias y utiliza su poder para ayudar a sus vecinos, no tendrá salida.
Si en México no se mejoran las condiciones de su población, cesa el narcotráfico y se mejora el sistema educativo, no existirá progreso.
Si en Venezuela no existe una distribución adecuada de la riqueza, la división de poderes institucionales, así como el fomento de verdaderos patrones espirituales, no se dará el cambio.
Si en Europa no se vuelve a los principìos éticos y se vuelca en el desrrollo de los países más necesitados, se entrará en una crisis de proporciones mayúsculas, e incluso en su propia extinción.
Si en África no cesan los comportamientos tribales, nunca saldrá de el profundo hueco en que se encuentra.
Y así para cada uno de los países, ninguno, ni uno solo
en el mundo está libre de culpa, unos por no hacer, otros por callar, otros por zaherir, otros por herir, otros por no progresar.
Agustín
User ID: 560201
11/27/2008 3:25 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Desafortunadamente, esa es nuestra realidad, súmale a ésto la incapacidad de nuestros líderes, así como la mala voluntad de muchos de ellos, los poderes fácticos, la ignorancia, etc, etc, etc, y tendrás un ovillo casi imposible de desenredar, casi, digo, por que siempre existe un atisbo de esperanza...
A todo esto agreguemos contaminación, vibraciones negativas, ausencia de valores o ruptura indiscriminada de los mismos, y la cosa se complica aún más...pero aún así todavía es posible el cambio.
Y si a todo esto le añadimos las circunstancias que rodean a nuestro planeta, así como el propio ajuste de la Tierra,
nos encontramos ante un panorama desolador. Sin embargo, aún hay esperanza a nivel colectivo.
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