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Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture

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Agustín
User ID: 569736
12/10/2008 4:39 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

La mejor actitud para afrontar situaciones complejas es la SERENIDAD.

La SERENIDAD es el estado del SER cuando se siente seguro y capaz de afrontar lo que pueda venirle. Si se actúa con SERENIDAD, se vence al miedo.
Por ejemplo, imaginemos que un evento largo tiempo esperado se presente, pues controlar nuestras emociones (positivas o negativas) nos ayudará a encontrar soluciones con rapidez.

Un abrazo TLALOC
Agustín
User ID: 569736
12/10/2008 4:43 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

The best attitude to deal with complex situations is the SERENITY.

This is the state of the BEING when it feels safe and able to face what may coming. If we act with serenity, is due to the fear.
For example, imagine that a long-awaited event will be present as controlling our emotions (positive or negative) will help us find solutions quickly.

A hug TLALOC
Agustín
User ID: 570181
12/11/2008 6:32 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola a todos:
Como van tus cosas Tlaloc?

Muchos de vosotros se preguntan o se han preguntado ¿por qué me involucro en aspectos políticos, económicos, etc?
Pensáis que los que hablamos sobre espiritualidad únicamente deberíamos comentar sobre aspectos trascendentes.
Sin embargo, es importante tomar en cuenta que en el universo nada está aislado. Lo que en muchas ocasiones consideráis espiritual es físico también. Lo que ocurre es que cada manifestación vibra a una determinada frecuencia, por lo que sólo vemos y sentimos lo que podemos decodificar o recibir, tal como una radio recibe únicamente algunos tipos de onda.
Agustín
User ID: 570181
12/11/2008 6:37 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Por ello, en este planeta se manifiesta lo material y lo espiritual al mismo tiempo.
En lo que respecta a aquellos temas "cotidianos", sugiero que aceptemos que el "cielo" empieza en La Tierra, así como el infierno, razón por la cual es conveniente que aclare aspectos que, aún siendo graves, permiten sincerar nuestra comprensión, lo que a corto y medio plazo ayudará a establecer la FELICIDAD en este planeta, a pesar de que posiblemente tengamos que pasar momentos difíciles.
Agustín
User ID: 570181
12/11/2008 6:42 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hello everyone:
As things are going your Tlaloc?

Many of you are wondering or have wondered why I am involved in political, economic, etc?
Think that those who talk about spirituality should only comment on issues transcendent.
However, it is important to note that nothing in the universe is isolated. Which often consideráis spiritual is also physical. What happens is that every manifestation vibrates at a certain frequency, so you only see and feel what we can decode or receive, such as a radio receives only some types of wave.
Agustín
User ID: 570181
12/11/2008 6:44 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Therefore, on this planet can be seen the material and the spiritual at the same time.
With regard to those issues "everyday" I suggest we accept that the "sky" begins on Earth, and hell, why it is desirable to clarify issues which, although serious, sincere allow our understanding, what that in the short to medium term will help establish the happiness in this world, despite the fact that we may have to pass tough dificult times.
Agustín
User ID: 570832
12/12/2008 5:21 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola Tlaloc:
¿De regreso ya de las vacaciones?
Deseo te encuentres bien y espero tener noticias tuyas, así como contar con tu capacidad de traductor, la cual supera con creces cualquier web, cosa que por lo demás ya sabíamos, ja, ja. En todo caso, si no te es posible, la traduciré (con ayuda de una web) por la tarde.
Saludos.


LOS DOS TESTIGOS

He venido notando, a lo largo ya de varios meses, cómo existe un profundo interés sobre el tema que nos ocupa.
Si bien he escrito en varias ocasiones en este subforo sobre el particular, considero interesante ampliar algunos aspectos.

Es lógico el deseo por muchos de vosotros, de saber quienes son, que hacen, donde están, etc, LOS DOS TESTIGOS. La manifestación física de ambos, encarnados, ayuda a evidenciar la veracidad de profecías, del Apocalipsis, así como definir con mayor claridad la importancia de los actuales momentos respecto al proceso evolutivo de nuestra humanidad.
Agustín
User ID: 570832
12/12/2008 5:30 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Como estoy casi seguro de que habéis leído mis comentarios anteriores al respecto, no redundaré en ello. Quien no lo haya hecho, puede hacerlo (ya sabéis que es gratis, ha, ha).

Pues bien, el asunto sobre estos dos sagrados personajes, es complejo. Para comprender lo que los envuelve debemos por fuerza utiizar el esentido común, así como tener la humildad de aceptar que los designios del SEÑOR, no siempre son fáciles de comprender dadas nuestras limitaciones, por lo que únicamente deseo apuntar algunos detalles que nos ayuden a centrarnos.

Recordemos que muchos avataras, profetas, sant@s, han sido reconocidos más por sus mensajes y obras que por sus milagros, aunque a nosotros los terrícolas nos vuelva locos cualquier cosa que se salga de lo habitual...también las brujas vuelan en escobas y no por eso son santas. Así mismo, Harry Potter también hace lo mismo, aunque es un elegido por la LUZ, y no es un brujo en el mal sentido de la palabra. Luego, por ir en una escoba levitando no se nos coloca la aureola de santidad.
Estas afirmaciones, sencillas por cierto, buscan despertarnos de esa ilusión que nos hace creer que quienes producen señales pertenecen a la LUZ, cosa que no siempre es verdad.
Agustín
User ID: 570832
12/12/2008 5:44 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Por lo tanto, es posible que LOS DOS TESTIGOS, no deséen hacer grandes señales, por que así lo consideren, o por que no puedan, simplemente. También es factible que lo que realicen o hagan, pase como una onda que nuestra radio particular no sea capaz de sintonizar.
En todo caso, más que volvernos locos e intelectualizar los diferentes escritos que sobre ambos existen, pienso que es más oportuno porfundizar en cómo puede ser la psicología de ambos personajes, y cómo podrían manifestarse con su palabra, que al fin y al cabo, debería ser LA PALABRA.
Recordar aquella sentencia "muchos harán señales en mi nombre...". Lo que EN VERDAD considero que es importante es el mensaje que ambos entreguen al colectivo. Las ideas y conceptos pueden transformar nuestra realidad y la de los demás. Sobre sus actos, saben quienes están cerca de ellos, al menos por ahora, y cuando se manifiesten abiertamente (si las circunstancias del planeta lo permiten, pues TODO es cambiante)serán juzgados, como tantos otros enviados, y ajusticiados, si es el deseo de la mayoría, y si ellos se dejan, claro está.
Luego, resumiendo, lo fundamental es que éstas dos lámparas que deben ser LOS DOS TESTIGOS, sean capaces de alumbrar en la penumbra (que es donde se necesita la LUZ) y que quienes no estén completamente ciegos -a pesar de tener las lámparas muy cerca de ellos- atisben a reconocer la LUZ y seguirla para no caer.
Radiant Crow
User ID: 561747
12/12/2008 12:40 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola Tlaloc:
¿De regreso ya de las vacaciones?
 Quoting: Agustín


He says:

Hello Tlaloc:
Back from vacations?
I wish you are well and I hope to have news from you, as well as to count with your capacity as translator, which is bigger by far than that of any website, which by the way we already knew, ha, ha. In any case, if it is not possible for you, I will translate it (with a website's help) in the evening.
Greetings.

THE TWO WITNESSES

I have been noticing, throughout several months, how there is deep interest on the topic that concerns us. Though I have already written in this thread about that in particular, I consider it interesting to expand some aspects.

It is logical that the wish from many of you, of knowing who are THE TWO WITNESSES, what they do, where they are, etc. The physical manifestation of both, incarnated, helps to evidence the veracity of prophecies, of the Book of Revelations, as well as define more clearly the importance of the present moments in regard to our humanity's evolutionary process.
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As I am almost sure that you have read my previous comments on that subject, I will not repeat it. Whoever has not done it, can do so (you know it's free, ha, ha).

Well then, the matter about these two sacred persons, is complex. To understand what envelops them we must forcibly use common sense, as well as have the humility to accept that the LORD'S ways are not always easy to understand given our limitations, because of that I only wish to put down some details that may help us to center ourselves.

Let us remember that many avatars, prophets, saints, have been recognized more by their messages and works than by their miracles, even though we earthlings go head over heels for anything that goes out of the ordinary.. witches fly on brooms too, and not because of that are they saints. In the same way, Harry Potter does the same thing, even though he is one chosen by the LIGHT, and is not a wizard in the bad sense of the word. It follows, that not because of going around levitating in a broom do we receive the halo of sainthood.

These statements, which are simple too, seek to awake us from that illussion that makes us believe that those who produce signs belong to the LIGHT, which is not always true.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Radiant Crow
User ID: 561747
12/12/2008 12:57 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Por lo tanto, es posible que LOS DOS TESTIGOS, no deséen hacer grandes señales, por que así lo consideren, o por que no puedan, simplemente.
 Quoting: Agustín


Therefore, it is possible that THE TWO WITNESSES, could not want to make great signs, because they consider it so, or because they are simply unable to. It is also feasible that what they make or do could pass as a wave that our particular radio be unable to tune into.

In any case, better than to go crazy and intellectualize the different writings that exist about both of them, I think that it is more timely to deepen into how the psychology of the two persons could be, and how they might manifest with their word, which in the end should be THE WORD.

Remember that statement "many will make signs in my name..". What I TRULY consider important is that the message that the two of them deliver to the collective. Ideas and concepts can transform our reality and that of others. About their acts, they know who are close to them, at least for now, and when they manifest openly (if the planet's circumstances permit it, for ALL changes), they will be judged, like so many other messengers, and killed, if it is the wish of the majority, and if they let it happen, of course.

Then, to summarize, the fundamental thing is that those two lamps that THE TWO WITNESSES must be, be capable of lighting the shadows (for that is where the LIGHT is needed) and that those who are not completely blind -even though they have the two lamps very close to them- should faintly recognize the light and follow it to not fall down.
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I'm not on vacation, wish I were, I'm just choosy on what I translate, given that my time has many demands on it.

No estoy de vacaciones, ojalaa lo estuviera, solo soy selectivo con lo que traduzco, dado que muchas cosas diferentes piden mi tiempo.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Agustín
User ID: 571199
12/12/2008 4:50 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola de nuevo Tlaloc:
Gracias por la traducción, ya imaginaba que no estabas de vacaciones, lo dije con cierta sana ironía. Hasta otro momento.
Un abrazo.
Agustín
User ID: 571518
12/13/2008 4:21 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola Tlaloc:
Creo que estuve conversando contigo en el astral, digo creo, por que hay que dejar siempre algo de margen a la duda, ja, ja.
Hasta otro momento.
Agustín
User ID: 573472
12/16/2008 8:35 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola Tlaloc:

Espero sigas bien.
Si te es posible te agradezco traduzcas lo siguiente, en todo caso, por la tarde, lo haré usando una web.
Un abrazo.


LOS LÍDERES

Cuando nos referimos a ellos, suelen acudir a nuestra mente muchos nombres de políticos,religiosos,artistas,banqueros,militares,dep​ortistas,etc, que ejercen posiciones importantes en nuestras sociedades. No voy a referirme a ellos, si no a muchos de vosotros que posiblemente en un futuro, si lo consideráis oportuno, os desempeñaréis en labores de liderazgo. Es evidente que algunos ya habréis sido y/o continuáis siéndo líderes en vuestros respectivos campos de actuación o en otros que no considerábais. Confío en que vuestro desempeño vaya emparejado con vuestro proceso evolutivo ascendente y que el mismo se sustente en PRINCIPIOS éticos y morales.
Agustín
User ID: 573472
12/16/2008 8:40 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Pues bien, la labor de liderazgo puede llegar a ser muy necesaria en circunstancias excepcionales, y esas situaciones requieren, igualmente, de líderes excepcionales.
Excepcionales no por que deban convertirse en superhéroes, si no por necesitarán de una gran fortaleza, valores y sabiduría a raudales para desempeñarse lo mejor posible.
Muchos de nosotros hemos vivido experiencias particulares que nos han ido moldeando y perfeccionando para poder asumir roles que pueden ayudar a otros semejantes a superar situaciones que, al menos en un principio, pueden superarles.
Agustín
User ID: 573472
12/16/2008 8:47 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Es en esos momentos cuando el líder hace su aparición para orientar y canalizar los esfuerzos para superarlos y evolucionar.
Ahora bien, me dirijo especialmente a aquellos de vosotros que todavía no contempláis o apenas empezáis a vislumbrar,lo necesario que puede llegar a ser el convertiros en líderes.
Ya sabemos que no es nada fácil convertirse en uno de ellos, pues la responsabilidad, el esfuerzo que se invierte en ello, y otros aspectos, no están concebidos para todos los seres.Peor aún si quienes van -voluntariamente- a ser liderados, están absolutamente desconcertados por que todos sus esquemas mentales se han derrumbado.
Agustín
User ID: 573472
12/16/2008 8:56 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Por ello, el futuro líder, no solamente debe tener la suficiente serenidad para afrontar la situación, si no poseer la psicología necesaria para poder armonizar y dar respuestas adecuadas a la comunidad.
No es posible actuar como líder basándose en ideas preconcebidas ni sacadas de un "manual de instrucciones para convertirse en líder". Una cosa es tener habilidades y poseer herramientas útiles para liderar, y una cosa muy distinta, el saber que es lo más conveniente hacer a corto, medio y largo plazo.
Claro está, no se trata, repito, de convertirse en superhéroe, si no de actuar con SENTIDO COMÚN,el sentido que generalmente nos es más dificil tener...
Agustín
User ID: 573472
12/16/2008 9:10 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Otro aspecto fundamental es el equilibrar nuestras acciones, a fin de que verdaderamente, y sin desviarnos de nuestros PRINCIPIOS, logremos nuestro porpósito dentro de la LUZ. Por ello, para actuar con fortaleza, seremos humildes, para ser firmes, sencillos, para ser activos, pacientes, para ser reflexivos, perseverantes, y así continuamente.
Desde luego, no podemos pretender ser perfectos, luego la comprensión empieza por nosotros mismos, sin desfallecer.
Y por último, pero no por ello menos importante, NUNCA,NUNCA, abandonar nuestro TRABAJO INTERIOR, que es el combustible de nuestra propia LUZ.

Que nuestra propia satisfacción se convierta en nuestra mejor recompensa.

Un abrazo.
Phoenix~Psy
User ID: 548758
12/16/2008 10:30 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

i love you agustn...
hf
Radiant Crow
User ID: 561747
12/16/2008 2:32 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Hola Tlaloc:
Creo que estuve conversando contigo en el astral, digo creo, por que hay que dejar siempre algo de margen a la duda, ja, ja.
Hasta otro momento.
 Quoting: Agustín

He says:
Hey Tlaloc:

I believe that I talked with you for a while on the astral, I say believe, because one always has to leave some room for doubt, ha, ha.
Until another moment.

Hola Tlaloc:

Espero sigas bien.
Si te es posible te agradezco traduzcas lo siguiente, en todo caso, por la tarde, lo haré usando una web.
Un abrazo.


LOS LÍDERES

Cuando nos referimos a ellos, suelen acudir a nuestra mente muchos nombres de políticos,religiosos,artistas,banqueros,militares,dep​ortistas,etc, que ejercen posiciones importantes en nuestras sociedades.
 Quoting: Agustín


He says:

Hey Tlaloc:
I hope you are still well.
If you can I would thank you for translating the following, in any case, in the evening, I will do so using a website.
A hug.

LEADERS

When we refer to them, our minds usually remember many names of politicians, religious people, artists, bankers, military people, sportsmen who hold important positions in our societies. I will not refer to them, but to many of you who possibly in some future time, if you consider it relevant, will exercise leadership positions. It is evident that some of you have already been and/or continue to be leaders in your particular fields of action or in others that you did not consider. I trust that your performance advance together with your evolutionary process and that the same be held up with ethical and moral PRINCIPLES.

Well then, leadership work can come to be very necessary in exceptional circumstances, and those situations also require exceptional leaders. Not exceptional because they would have to become superheroes, but because they will need a great fortitude, and great gushes of values and wisdom to have the best possible performance. Many of us have lived particular experiences that have progressively molded and perfected us to be able to assume roles that can help other people to overcome situations that, at the start, can overcome them.

It is then that the leader makes his appearance to orient and channel the efforts to overcome them (sic) and evolve. Now well, I speak particularly to those of you that don't yet consider or are hardly beginning to consider, how necessary it can become for you to become leaders.
We know that it is not easy at all to become one of them, for the responsibility, the effort that is invested in it, and other aspects, are not formed for all beings. Even worse if those who-voluntarily-are going to be led, are absolutely disoriented because all their mental structures have crumbled.

Therefore, the future leader, not only has to have the sufficient serenity to face the situation, but also have the psychology necessary to be able to harmonize and give the community fitting answers.
It is not possible to act as a leader with a base on preconceived ideas nor taken from a "Manual of instructions for becoming a leader". It is one thing to have abilities and possess useful tools for leading, and a very different thing, to know what is the most convenient thing to do in the short, medium, and long run.

Of course, it is not about, I repeat, becoming a superhero, but about acting with COMMON SENSE, the sense that we generally find it hardest to have..

Another fundamental aspect is to balance our actions, so that we truly, and without straying from our PRINCIPLES, achieve our purpose within the LIGHT. Thus, to act with fortitude, we will be humble, to be firm, simple, to be active, patient, to be reflexive, insistent, and so on continually. Of course, we cannot aim to be perfect, so then comprehension starts with ourselves, without faltering.

And lastly, but not because of that less important, NEVER, NEVER, give up our INNER WORK, that is the fuel for our own LIGHT.

That our own satisfaction turn into our best reward.

A hug.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Radiant Crow
User ID: 561747
12/16/2008 3:09 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Agustin, tambien estaa esto, por si lo quieres ver, es una fecha para un rapto posible, y una explicacion de en que consiste.

Agustin, there's also this, if you want to see it, it's a date for a possible rapture, and an explanation of what it's about.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

By February of 2009 there will begin a rapid mass awakening of many lightworkers on the planet, which he described as good people.

The very bad people he said would resist the new energy.

Long story short on April 12,2009, a new earth will form in the 4th spacial dimension. The 3rd d earth remains.

All people that have a high enough vibration will instantly find themselves on a the 4d earth, which is clean.

The rest stay on 3d earth. He said only about 35-40% will end up on 4d earth.

He basically said 3d earth goes on as it is now and that the process is simply one of understanding. One cannot go to the next level without learning the lesson.

So those that remain on 3d earth eventually make it to the next dimension.
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Para febrero del 2009 comenzaraa un raapido despertar en masa de muchos trabajadores de la luz en el planeta, que eel describioo como buenas personas.

Los muy malos, dijo, resistiriian la nueva energiia.

Para no hacer el cuento largo el 12 de abril de 2009, una nueva tierra se formaraa en la cuarta dimensioon espacial. la tierra de la tercera dimensioon continuua.

Todas las personas que tienen una vibracioon suficientemente alta instantaaneamente se encontraraan en la tierra de 4d, que estaa limpia.

Los demaas se quedan en Tierra 3d. Dijo que solamente 35-40% acabaraan en Tierra 4d.

Baasicamente dijo que la Tierra 3d sigue como estaa ahora y que el proceso es simplemente uno de comprensioon. Uno no puede ir al siguiente nivel sin aprender la leccioon.

Asii que aquellos que continuuan en Tierra 3d eventualmente llegan a la siguiente dimensioon.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]

The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"

-Several. 48, 48, 48
Agustín
User ID: 573746
12/16/2008 4:30 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Gracias Phoenix Psy por tus palabras y a tí Tlaloc por la traducción y aportes.

Respecto a lo que me comentas, mi opinión sigue siendo la que ya conoces por mis escritos, NADA está cerradi, y menos aún una fecha en concreto, ya que el libre albedrío de los seres humanos puede hacer variar cualquier plan. Existen varias opciones que se activan o desactivan de acuerdo al cumplimiento de las varias y diversas variables que entran en el juego.
Lo que sí es real es el hecho de que todo este sistema se superpone con otras dimensiones en las cuales se viven situaciones que pueden ser distintas a las que vivimos actualmente.
Entiendo tu interés, que hago mío también, por tener una respuesta clara sobre los cambios que pueden ocurrir, sin embargo no debo afianzar esa postura, ya que ese rapto podría producirse hoy mismo o bien tardar un buen tiempo en ocurrir, y eso en el caso de que a nivel general se activara ese plan.
Agustín
User ID: 573746
12/16/2008 4:37 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Otro aspecto a tener en cuenta es que si los Hermanos Mayores deciden activar a nivel general el rapto o evacuación, en un primer momento puede llevarse a cabo sobre los seres que trabajan directamente en el proyecto o muy relacionados con la orientación espiritual positiva bajo cualquier signo religioso, así como individuos con un significativo nivel espiritual, sin condicionamiento de sexo, edad, profesión, raza, credo, etc.
En un segundo lugar -puede ser en cuestión de minutos- se rescatará a quienes estén adecuados vibratoriamente para ello y casos especiales.
En tercer lugar, es factible que la evacuación o rapto sea visible y optativa para todo ser, si bien la vibración particular de cada uno será el pasaporte o salvoconducto para poder ascender.
Phoenix~Psy
User ID: 548758
12/16/2008 4:39 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Gracias Phoenix Psy por tus palabras y a tí Tlaloc por la traducción y aportes.

Respecto a lo que me comentas, mi opinión sigue siendo la que ya conoces por mis escritos, NADA está cerradi, y menos aún una fecha en concreto, ya que el libre albedrío de los seres humanos puede hacer variar cualquier plan. Existen varias opciones que se activan o desactivan de acuerdo al cumplimiento de las varias y diversas variables que entran en el juego.
Lo que sí es real es el hecho de que todo este sistema se superpone con otras dimensiones en las cuales se viven situaciones que pueden ser distintas a las que vivimos actualmente.
Entiendo tu interés, que hago mío también, por tener una respuesta clara sobre los cambios que pueden ocurrir, sin embargo no debo afianzar esa postura, ya que ese rapto podría producirse hoy mismo o bien tardar un buen tiempo en ocurrir, y eso en el caso de que a nivel general se activara ese plan.
 Quoting: Agustín

i truly believe that our consciousness/desires/intent creates the future...
::SunRa::
Agustín
User ID: 573775
12/16/2008 5:31 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Efectivamente, el futuro lo creamos nosotros, todos, a través de los universos.
UNO es TODO, TODO es MENTE, UNO es MENTE, TODO es UNO

Pasando al tema que nos ocupa directamente, el rapto es sólo uno de los planes a efectuarse a nivel colectivo, si bien se lleva a cabo en circunstancias específicas y en oportunidades relacionadas con catástrofes, sobre algunos seres, y en el último segundo.

Ahora bien, lo verdaderamente importante es continuar el TRABAJO INTERIOR, que es lo que verdaderamente nos facilita evolucionar. Y si nos es posible, cooperar, cooperar, con otras personas. En todo caso es conveniente -y como mantener el cuerpo físico es muy importante- mantenernos ALERTAS y PREPARADOS para afrontar situaciones complejas y ayudar a otros si se requiere y si las circunstancias lo permitan.
Agustín
User ID: 573775
12/16/2008 5:35 PM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Claro está, actuemos con SERENIDAD y sin mantenernos angustiados por el día, momento y forma en que se desarrollarán los acontecimientos, pues eso sólo el PADRE lo sabe.
Un abrazo Tlaloc y AVE FÉNIX RENACIDA.
Agustín
User ID: 574081
12/17/2008 5:05 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Phoenix Psy, thanks for your words because you Tlaloc by the translation and input.

With regard to what I comment, my view remains that you know by my writings, NOTHING is closed, let alone a particular date, as the free will of humans can vary any plan. There are several options that are turned on or off according to compliance with the various and different variables that come into the game.
What is real is the fact that this whole system overlaps with other dimensions in which they live situations that may be different from those we live in today.
I understand your interest, I do mine, too, by having a clear answer about the changes that may occur, however I should not uphold this position, since that kidnapping could happen today or take a good time to happen, and that in the should a general activate the plan.
Agustín
User ID: 574081
12/17/2008 5:20 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Another aspect to consider is that, if the Big Brothers decide to activate a general abduction or evacuation, as a first step, can be performed on people who work directly in the project or closely related to spiritual guidance in any positive sign religious as well as individuals with a significant spiritual level, without conditions of sex, age, profession, race, creed, and so on.
In a second-place may be within minutes was to rescue those who are sensitive to vibration and thus special cases.
Thirdly, it is feasible that the evacuation or abduction is visible and be optional for all, but particularly shakes each one will be able to pass for a passport or promotion.
Agustín
User ID: 574081
12/17/2008 5:27 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Indeed, the future is what we believe, all through the worlds.
ONE is everything, everything is MINDS, ONE is MIND, ALL is ONE

Turning to the topic at hand directly, kidnapping is just one of the plans to take a collective level, although it is carried out under specific circumstances and opportunities associated with disasters, on some beings, and at the last second.

But what is truly important to continue the INNER WORK, which is what really makes us evolve. And if we can, cooperate, cooperate with others. In any case it is appropriate -and how to keep the physical body is very important- Vigilant and Prepared to deal with complex situations and help others if needed and if circumstances permit.
Agustín
User ID: 574081
12/17/2008 5:30 AM
Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the RaptureQuote

Of course, we act calmly and without remain distressed by the day, time and manner in which events unfold, because that only the FATHER knows it.
TLALOC a hug and Phoenix Reborn.
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