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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 680775
5/18/2009 6:46 AM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
and yet Enoch bares no witness to Jesus and the word of God.
No "make way for the coming of the King of Kings Yeshua"
nor has he prophecied against the beast. And that is strictly the job of the two witnesses.
Rev 11
"When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies to be put into graves. And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth."
Enoch, who is the beast? Answer me this.
No more about energy and vibrations and universal vibes.
All prophets bare witness the testimony of The Christ and The Word of God. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 349307
any legit prophet would be capable of having an intellectual discussion on the topic. he or she may also clarify the role of jesus. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 681663
5/18/2009 12:55 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
and yet Enoch bares no witness to Jesus and the word of God.
No "make way for the coming of the King of Kings Yeshua"
nor has he prophecied against the beast. And that is strictly the job of the two witnesses.
Rev 11
"When they finish their testimony, the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them. And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Then those from the peoples, tribes, tongues, and nations will see their dead bodies three-and-a-half days, and not allow their dead bodies to be put into graves. And those who dwell on the earth will rejoice over them, make merry, and send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those who dwell on the earth."
Enoch, who is the beast? Answer me this.
No more about energy and vibrations and universal vibes.
All prophets bare witness the testimony of The Christ and The Word of God.
any legit prophet would be capable of having an intellectual discussion on the topic. he or she may also clarify the role of jesus. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 680775
Who is with ME is not against ME.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 681663
5/18/2009 12:57 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
There is a new poster here, Enoch, UID 365383, he has been posting several important messages and I have been translating, under this ID or as Tlaloc, with different UIDs. I'll put all his writings on this thread.
First message, original thread
[ link to www.godlikeproductions.com] ,
Original translation at
[ link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Good day, the light be with us.
For many years we have been exposed to difficult situations that have forced our older brothers to prepare a great rescue operation, which has been developing silently and which, possibly, will have to be done in the public eye.
As I have commented in sub-forums of this same forum, the most important thing is to achieve a state of communion with our inner self which is the essence of divinity. The closer we are to the Father the less important deincarnation, leaving the physical body, is, because the spirit is eternal and the Father has many dwellings..
Now, in the same way as we should not fear death, it is also true that it is extremely important to mantain our physical body, and because of that we have to take care of ourselves and, as much as we can, of those under our responsibility, and even help those who wish to be helped. We must not force or coerce anybody, because each being has its own evolution. Encouragement and stimulation, however, is something each of us has to do, this work requires humility, simplicity, patience and perseverance, but never coertion or bullying.
In the universe everything is energy, which is manifested, according to its vibration, in one way or another. Minerals, to give an example, vibrate much more slowly than one of us, and we, for example, maybe are vibrating more slowly than a very evolved being. However, each of us has his own vibratory frequency or 'bar code' to understand each other easily, that mantram or vibratory level can go up or down according to our thoughts, actions, emotions, etcetera, and because of that it is essential to evolve.
In the event of an open rescue or evacuation at the planetary level, he will generally act on those beings that have a mantram that is at least good enough to continue evolution in another plane or place.
The variables of whether to do the evacuation or rescue are many, but this could be necessary in some moment, therefore it is best to remain serene and calm to make our older brothers' job easier.
Greetings to all.
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Translated by Raised Crow
Great. Now that you.ve established a second identity here you are going to try to establish credibility for you're made up bullshit. I hope you are happy. You're certainly craxy.
Your fears are not mine.
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| Jenkins
User ID: 680347
5/19/2009 11:30 AM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
Enoch-Agustin, do you recognize Mohamed as a prophet ? Or dies he have to recognize you first ? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 631894
5/19/2009 1:00 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
Enoch-Agustin, do you recognize Mohamed as a prophet ? Or dies he have to recognize you first ? Quoting: Jenkins
Dear Jenkins:
Moan not to answer your question in the reduced terms in you formulate which it, because to do it "In Truth", would be greater the confusion than I would originate and this one would not be used for the evolutionary intention that I hope yes has my following commentary.
The evolutionary spiritual currents that have been developed in this planet own a common trunk, based on which we denominated Love and Wisdom.
These Universal Principles are fundamental for the sensible evolution and the harmony between the beings of the universe.
The spiritual current initiated by the prophet Mohamed owns in essence those aspects. The same were adapted especially to the circumstances of its time and towards the individuals to which it was oriented.
You do not forget that the objective of the spiritual lessons is to wake up of the highest important spiritual values in each being, in order that these, in individual or collective form, are added to those who in the universe those same attributes own.
Throughout the years, all the spiritual currents have been contaminated, although many million beings exist who lodge the emotional essence of the same.
The truly important thing is the power to extend spiritually, reason why each individual wishes that it can use many tools to obtain that ascent.
The intrinsic yearning of all spiritual current, still over its founders is that the beings we pruned to make evolve our Own Divine Essence in conjunction with the One of all the other beings, in order that we pruned to coexist and to develop to us, does not matter in which flat or dwelling, peacefully and happiness.
All the beings are being called and each will decide that way to take they are attemped with the greed, others with the wrath, to others to the own moves away them mind of his heart, nevertheless, the most direct way, although perhaps more difficult he is the one of The Love, that journeyed with to Wisdom the Father leads.
Blessed the One that also knows the place which it takes his way to it, and blessed that One that without knowing to where going, journeys by the good way.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 665545
5/19/2009 1:19 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
if what u are saying is true
then that would make jesus a liar
jesus make several key statements, that were not open for interpretation, they were blunt, and to the point
if you're claiming these beings are ALIENS
I say these aliens would be LIARS
and I hate liars, no matter how powerful they are, or how much power they hold over me
and i don't mean the kind of liar that maybe lies to save his life
but a liar who orchestrates a system of control using LIES, to subdue someone, a grand scheme of manipulative lies tied together to produce a result
death to those kinds of liars, celestial or otherwise |
| Aztec Cavalry
User ID: 616646
5/19/2009 1:22 PM
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Enoch, escribe en español además de esa versión en inglés si te acomoda más. No le hagas caso a los trolls.
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Enoch, write in Spanish besides that english version if you feel more comfortable with it. Don't listen to the trolls.
Enoch's complete messages at [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Key to the ages: [link to z14.invisionfree.com]
The first rule is to keep an untroubled spirit. The second is to love the color of jade and the thrilling scent of flowers, but more so man, who is ashamed of me and of my words in this faithless and sinful generation, so the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels. Man must give birth to himself every day"
-Several. 48, 48, 48 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 631894
5/19/2009 1:34 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
Es lógico que pienses que miento, prefiero que pienses eso a que creas que Jesús "El Cristo" te engañó.
Si hay algo que muchos saben es que ÉL dió su mensaje y enseñanza para que todos pudieran comprenderla.
Desde el analfabeto hasta el erudito, desde el piadoso hasta el tirano, todos podían, de acuerdo a su propio nivel educativo y espiritual, extraer aspectos positivos.
El universo está integrado por planos paralelos y cuerpos celestes en número infinito. Nosotros somos también extraterrestres para seres de otros mundos.
Comprenderás que ÉL amó y ama a todos los seres, pues comprende la esencia divina que habita en cada uno de ellos.
También otros grandes seres comulgan con ÉL en sus ideas, así como seres de toda condición económica, religiosa, raza, país, etc.
El mensaje crístico no busca desunir, si no unir, pues por encima de credos, lo que promulga es el respeto hacia uno mismo y hacia los demás.
No te sientas mal por mis palabras, pues ellas, aunque puedan parecerte irreverentes, no tienen otro propósito que ayudar a que podamos evolucionar.
No creas en mí, simplemente deja que tu corazón y la razón de conduzcan a ÉL.
if what u are saying is true
then that would make jesus a liar
jesus make several key statements, that were not open for interpretation, they were blunt, and to the point
if you're claiming these beings are ALIENS
I say these aliens would be LIARS
and I hate liars, no matter how powerful they are, or how much power they hold over me
and i don't mean the kind of liar that maybe lies to save his life
but a liar who orchestrates a system of control using LIES, to subdue someone, a grand scheme of manipulative lies tied together to produce a result
death to those kinds of liars, celestial or otherwise Quoting: Anonymous Coward 665545 |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 631894
5/19/2009 1:38 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
Enoch, escribe en español además de esa versión en inglés si te acomoda más. No le hagas caso a los trolls.
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Enoch, write in Spanish besides that english version if you feel more comfortable with it. Don't listen to the trolls. Quoting: Aztec Cavalry
Gracias, debo irme ahora.
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| Jenkins
User ID: 680347
5/19/2009 1:41 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
About the Word, how does it interact with divine Love ? |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 631894
5/19/2009 1:47 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
About the Word, how does it interact with divine Love ? Quoting: Jenkins
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| Jenkins
User ID: 680347
5/19/2009 1:49 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
What's the sheep symbol for ? |
| Jenkins
User ID: 680347
5/19/2009 1:55 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
Enoch, do you think that Jesus ''the Christ'' has learned to use modern technology to spread his message ?
I once receive an e-mail from Jesus himself. |
| urantian
User ID: 667772
5/19/2009 2:01 PM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 682915
5/19/2009 5:40 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
Enoch, do you think that Jesus ''the Christ'' has learned to use modern technology to spread his message ?
I once receive an e-mail from Jesus himself. Quoting: Jenkins
Just one?
A huge |
| Agustín
User ID: 683636
5/20/2009 3:26 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
Dear AC:
It is logical that you think that I lie. I prefer that you think that to that you believe that Jesus " The Christ" it deceived to you.
f there is something many they know is that IT gave to his message and education so that all could understand it.
From the illiterate to the scholar, from the pious one to the tyrant, all could, according to their own educative and spiritual level, to extract positive aspects.
The universe is integrated by parallel planes and celestial bodies in infinite number. We are also extraterrestrial beings of other worlds. You will include that IT loved and loves all the beings, because understands the divine essence that lives in each of them. Also other great beings agree with HIM in their ideas, as well as beings of all economic, religious condition, race, country, etc.
The christic message does not look for to separate, if not to unite, because over creeds, which promulgates is the respect towards one same one and the others.
You do not feel bad by my words, because they, although can seem you irreverent, do not have another intention who to help to that we pruned to evolve.
If you do not believe in me, simply it leaves your heart and the reason of leads HIM.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
| Exile 
Cross Country
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5/20/2009 4:50 PM
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Last Edited by Exile on 5/20/2009 at 10:27 PM
A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty; the realist sees both - Churchill. |
| Agustín
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5/21/2009 11:18 AM | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 683887
5/21/2009 2:24 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
Any time I read or hear of anything that tells to seek anything of "self" I know it to be false.
To "overcome" is to willingly crucify/sacrifice/surrender you`re self to Truth with out being outwardly forced to do so. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 684523
5/21/2009 6:27 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
Any time I read or hear of anything that tells to seek anything of "self" I know it to be false.
To "overcome" is to willingly crucify/sacrifice/surrender you`re self to Truth with out being outwardly forced to do so. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 683887
That must to that the literal meaning of the words is understood solely, but not the important meaning of the same.
"I AM" |
| Jenkins
User ID: 680347
5/21/2009 11:56 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
Agustin-Enoch, what do you think of this passage ? [link to www.biblegateway.com] It strikes as one of the toughest yet one of the most beautiful passages of the Gospels. |
| Anonymous Coward
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5/22/2009 3:18 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
Agustin-Enoch, what do you think of this passage ? [ link to www.biblegateway.com] It strikes as one of the toughest yet one of the most beautiful passages of the Gospels.
The life is a continuous learning, where each being has the opportunity to carve itself also in order to become a diamond.
Closing the way is not own of wise people, if not to help to that it wishes to be constructed within the framework to itself of the evolution.
What it is unacceptable in the evolutionary process is to waste the lessons, as the pigs despise the pearls because they prefer to continue eating excrement.
Agustín |
| Agustín
User ID: 690498
6/9/2009 5:33 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
Existe una ancha autopista para evolucionar, la cual nosotros, nosotros, llamamos AMOR. No importa en que lugar del Universo un ser se encuentre, ni el momento o tiempo, ni su propio nivel evolutivo o el de los que lo rodean, la autopista sigue estando ahí, y su nombre es el mismo; AMOR.
Esa autopista tiene muchos carriles, pues unos pasan a mayor velocidad que otros por la misma, sin embargo, la autoista simpre conduce al Padre, y quienes van sobre la autopista son hijos del Padre. El Padre contiene todo lo creado y lo increado, y el Padre, aún siendo eterno e inabarcable está dentro de nosotros, y nosotros en el Padre.
Al Padre lo hemos llamado de muchas formas y en esencia somos como él, pues así hemos sido creados; a su imagen y semejanza, pues nosotros, en esencia, somos dioses.
Somos, en esencia Hijos del Hombre, en esencia.
No existe otro camino al Padre que a través del Hijo, pues el Hijo del Hombre es el AMOR hecho Hombre. Quien conoce al Hijo, conoce al Padre, y quien busca al Padre, es por que es su Hijo. No hay otro camino más que el del AMOR.
No importa por cuantos senderos busquéis a Dios o al Padre, pues todos ellos, tarde o temprano conducen a esa autopista, que es la única que llega al Padre.
Aunque tardemos en decidirnos a transitar esa autopista, al final tendremos que utilizarla, pues no existe otra forma para llegar al Padre que el AMOR.
Aún comprendiendo todo el conocimiento del Universo, nada se es sin el AMOR. nada.
Por ello, quien AMA, todo lo tiene, pues todo le será dado por añadidura.
Nada ni nadie está por encima del AMOR, por que el Padre, en su plena y total naturaleza existe para y por el AMOR, y quien no busque ésto en el Padre, no es su Hijo, ni busca al Padre.
Quienes han rechazado conscientemente transitar esa autopista, se alejan del Padre, y aún siendo parte del mismo, son como los hijos que reniegan del buen Padre.
El buen Padre, como el buen pastor, desea lo mejor para sus hijos aún estando extraviados, e incluso le ruega a sus hijos más amados que se sacrifiquen en ocasiones por sus hermanos, más el Padre sabe que no siempre puede pedirle a sus hijos el sacrificio, pues existe un tiempo para sembrar y otro para cosechar, pues incluso el Padre cumple la Ley, que es suya y nuestra.
No es tiempo de corderos degollados, no esperéis lo que ya os fue otorgado, pues ya no depende de vuestros hermanos, si no de vosotros mismos, pues el tiempo de la cosecha no es infnito, pues de serlo, los frutos se pudrirían y no podrían ser semillas de la nueva siembra.
Quien todavía no comprenda que únicamente a través del AMOR se llega al Padre, y se convierta en UNO con el Padre, que busque pronto la autopista, pues aún siendo inmensamente ancha, se necesita tener los ojos abiertos para incorporarse a ella. |
| Agustín
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6/9/2009 5:44 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
There is a wide freeway to evolve, which we, we, called LOVE. Place of the Universe does not concern in that a being is, neither the moment or time, nor its own evolutionary level or the one by they surround which it, the freeway continues being there, and its name is the same; LOVE.
That freeway has many tracks, because they happen to greater speed than others through the same, nevertheless, the freeway always leads the Father, and that go on the freeway they are children of the Father. The Father contains all created and the not created, and the Father, still being eternal and oversized He is within us, and we in the Father. To we have called it to the Father of many forms and in essence we are like him, because thus we have been created; to its image and similarity, because we, in essence, are Gods.
We are, in essence Children of the Man, in essence.
Another way to the Father does not exist who through Son, because the Son of the Man is the LOVE made Man. Who knows the Son, knows the Father, and who looks for the Father, is so that he is his Son. There is no another way more than the one of the LOVE.
It does not matter by whichever footpaths you look for God or the Father, because all of them, sooner or later lead to that freeway, that is the unique one that arrives at the Father.
Although we take in deciding to us to journey that freeway, in the end we will have to use it, because another form does not exist to arrive at the Father who the LOVE.
Still understanding all the knowledge of the Universe, nothing is without the LOVE. nothing.
For this reason, who LOVES, has all it, because everything will be given to him in addition.
Nothing neither nobody is over the LOVE, so that the Father, in his total and total nature it exists for and by the LOVE, and that does not look for this in the Father, is not its Son, nor looks for the Father.
Who they have consciously rejected to journey that freeway, they move away of the Father, and still being part of the same, they are like the children who apostatize of the good Father.
The good Father, like the good shepherd, still wishes the best thing for his children being misled, and he even requests its loved children to him more than they are sacrificed sometimes by its brothers, plus the Father knows that not always he can ask its children the sacrifice to him, because He knows exists a time to seed and other to harvest, because the Father even obeys the Law, that is hers and ours.
Is not time of dead lambs, you do not wait for what already it was granted to you, because no longer it depends on your brothers, if not of you yourself, because the time of the harvest is not for ever, because of being it, the fruits would rot and they could not be seeds of the new sowing.
Who still does not understand that solely through LOVE she is arrived at the Father, and becomes ONE with the Father, who looks for the freeway soon, because still being immensely wide, he is needed to have the been on awares to get up itself to her. |
| Anonymous Coward
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| Anonymous Coward
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| Anonymous Coward
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8/30/2009 9:27 AM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
Matthew 15:1-20 |
| Anonymous Coward
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| Agustín
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10/4/2009 6:37 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
EL ALFARERO.
En un pueblo de escasos habitantes, un Maestro Alfarero, muy curtido y encanecido por sus vivencias y algunos años,
esperaba el día en que poder realizar su Gran Obra. Durante mucho tiempo había meditado en silencio, casi siempre, sobre la forma en que la llevaría a cabo. Sin embargo,esa obra se insinuaba tan grandiosa y ambiciosa que sabía de antemano que necesitaba del mejor barro para llevarla a cabo. Pasaban los años y después de buscarlo comprendió que debía esperar a que el Padre se lo hiciera llegar.
Todas las mañanas abría la puerta de su casa y se percataba de que nadie le había dejado el barro necesario. Durante el día compartía su trabajo y ocupaciones con el anhelo de poder iniciar su obra. Así transcurrió el tiempo, meditando, manteniendo a punto el torno de alfarero y madurando. Confiaba en que el Padre cumpliera La Palabra que le había hecho llegar a algunos escogidos vecinos y a Él mismo. Una noche, cuando menos lo esperaba, escuchó unos golpes en su puerta. Se apresuró en abrir, y al hacerlo nadie se encontraba allí, aunque alguien, a juzgar por el obsequio, lo había depositado en el suelo. El obsequio no era otro que el barro que durante tantos años esperara el alfarero. En el momento oportuno, el alfarero inició su obra...
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| Agustín
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10/4/2009 6:44 PM | | Re: Enoch Speaks-Spirituality and the Rapture | Quote |
THE POTTER.
In a town of few inhabitants, a Master Potter, very tanned and grizzled by his experiences and some years,
expected the day to make his Great Work. He had long meditated in silence, mostly, on how that would take place. However, this work is so grand and ambitious hinted that he knew in advance that he needed the best clay to carry it out.
Years passed after searching and realized that he must wait for the Father did arrive.
Every morning he opened the door of his house and realized that nobody had left the clay needed. During the day shared their work and jobs with the desire to start his work.
So time went on, meditating, keeping about the potter's wheel and mature. He hoped that the Father fulfilled the promise he had sent to a chosen few neighbors and himself. One night, when least expected, he heard a knock at his door. He hastened to open, and in doing so no one was there, though someone, judging by the gift, he had deposited in the soil. The gift was none other than the clay for so many years waiting for the potter. In due course, the potter began work ... |
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