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Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central?
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Redheaded Stepchild
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1/31/2008 3:52 PM
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This one made me laugh. Who in the world would use video or a photo to mock Cheney?
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Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit
DENVER — Secret Service agents and aides to Vice President Cheney who gave statements for a Colorado lawsuit have asked a judge not to release videos of their testimony, saying they might wind up on YouTube or "Comedy Central."
The arguments Wednesday came as a federal magistrate ordered the government to present its reasons why Cheney should not be subpoenaed to testify in a lawsuit by a Denver-area man who claims comments he made to the vice president about the Iraq war led to his arrest in June 2006.
David Lane, an attorney for Steve Howards, said that Secret Service agents and Cheney's employees all provide different versions of Howards' actions, which raises questions that only Cheney — the alleged victim of the assault — could answer.
James Gilligan, an attorney representing the Office of the Vice President and the Secret Service, told Magistrate Judge Craig Shaffer that Lane had not "crossed the bar" showing how he could interview a high level official under oath.
Attorneys for both sides have until Feb. 27 to file briefs on the subpoena. Oral arguments on the motions are scheduled for March 6.
Howards, 55, was questioned by Secret Service agents, arrested and told he would be charged with assault after making comments about the Iraq war to Cheney in the Colorado mountain resort of Beaver Creek, where Cheney was attending a conference. Howards said he "lightly touched" Cheney.
Howards was never charged with assault and the district attorney later dismissed a harassment charge against him.
Descriptions of the encounter in depositions of aides to Cheney and at least three Secret Service agents range from a tap on the shoulder to a slap. Lane has said the assault charge was a pretense to silence Howards and the testimony indicates that there was no real basis to the original charge.
During arguments, Lane told Shaffer that the videotapes of the depositions should be released to show the American public how "agents are accusing one another of committing crimes and of covering up what happened."
Gilligan told Shaffer that Cheney's employees, who voluntarily testified, asked if there was anything that could be done to keep the videotapes from ending up all over the Internet and cable television. Gilligan requested that Lane provide 10 days notice before the release of any videotape to the media, so the government could file an objection.
"He wants a heads up when you decide to release this videotape to `Comedy Central," Shaffer told Lane.
"Deciding which media gets it first is like deciding which part of the forest you're going to light first," Lane said. "It's going to be a forest fire. I could release it to the most responsible media organization in the world but where it goes from there is anybody's guess."
Shaffer granted Gilligan's request. He also ordered Lane and attorneys for the Secret Service agents, Richard Westfall and Dugan Bliss, to find out how much it would cost to release the videotapes of the agents with the their faces obscured.
Transcripts of the depositions, which had been sealed, were released by Lane. He said he wanted the videotapes released because they catch the agents' voices cracking and muscles tightening in their faces as they answer questions under oath.
Howards, an environmental consultant, claims the Secret Service agents violated his constitutional rights to free speech and protection from unreasonable search and seizure.
Lane also represented former University of Colorado professor Ward Churchill who gained notoriety after comparing some Sept. 11 victims to Nazis. Churchill was later fired after a plagiarism investigation the he called fraudulent.
"Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger
Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul.
Silence is consent. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 348569
1/31/2008 4:22 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
That evil mofo Cheney belongs on YouTube and Comedy Central.
BTW, I know a guy who sent an email to John Kerry during the '04 campaign, calling him a "traitor."
He was picked up by Secret Service agents and sent to prison for 10 months. Didn't even know when he would be released.
No charges, no trial, no sentence, NOTHING. Just the "Patriot Act." |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 349426
1/31/2008 4:24 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
Facists against comedy... I love it.
Don't release the truth cause they might laugh at us? If this works, I officially give up. |
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4by2  
Forum Moderator
User ID: 74018
1/31/2008 4:25 PM
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This one made me laugh. Who in the world would use video or a photo to mock Cheney? Quoting: Redheaded Stepchild
Agreed Red, it's childish to mock others using video or photographs...
:bshwckd:
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Redheaded Stepchild
User ID: 364244
1/31/2008 4:29 PM
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This one made me laugh. Who in the world would use video or a photo to mock Cheney?
Agreed Red, it's childish to mock others using video or photographs...
:bshwckd:
I know what you mean. How can mature people do such a thing?
"Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger
Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul.
Silence is consent. |
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Pit Viper
User ID: 361950
1/31/2008 4:29 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
So they are afraid of something like this happening....LOL......
:hfhhhggtyy: 
Scor~Pios -AKA- Pit Viper
'When the people fear their government, there is tyranny;
When the government fears the people, there is liberty.'
Thomas Jefferson
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams |
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Redheaded Stepchild
User ID: 364244
1/31/2008 4:34 PM
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So they are afraid of something like this happening....LOL......
<snip> Quoting: Pit Viper
Gawd, those are hysterical!
This is an old one, but it still cracks me up.
:baghdad di:
"Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger
Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul.
Silence is consent. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 348569
1/31/2008 4:40 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
Pit Viper has the best graphics.
"Dick Cheney: Lord of War" is a classic!
GREAT Nicolas Cage film that's based on a true story. |
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hard to handle
User ID: 311866
1/31/2008 4:41 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
Facists against comedy... I love it.
Don't release the truth cause they might laugh at us? If this works, I officially give up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 349426
this somewhat validates a theory i've had that laughter can be used as a weapon. laughing creates a fun happy creative loving environment...exactly what evil fears most. laughter drains them of all the fear they worked so hard to acquire and makes them weak. |
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Redheaded Stepchild
User ID: 364244
1/31/2008 4:49 PM
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Pit Viper has the best graphics.
"Dick Cheney: Lord of War" is a classic!
GREAT Nicolas Cage film that's based on a true story.
I love PIT VIPER'S graphics, too.
"Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger
Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul.
Silence is consent. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 355357
1/31/2008 4:52 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
since when youtube this big?!! cool ! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 284299
1/31/2008 5:11 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
I'm interested in the guy who went to jail for 10 months for calling Kerry a traitor. |
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Pit Viper
User ID: 361950
1/31/2008 5:31 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
Thanks guys! As I always say, I cant take credit for creating them just spreading them around. Most of my smilies are Dees Illustrations.
Scor~Pios -AKA- Pit Viper
'When the people fear their government, there is tyranny;
When the government fears the people, there is liberty.'
Thomas Jefferson
Never underestimate the stupidity of the American people.
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds." - Samuel Adams |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 348142
1/31/2008 5:39 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
I'm interested in the guy who went to jail for 10 months for calling Kerry a traitor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 284299
Me too. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 348569
1/31/2008 5:43 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
I'm interested in the guy who went to jail for 10 months for calling Kerry a traitor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 284299
Well, it didn't help that he was a former US Army sniper -- but not when he sent Kerry the email.
He thinks it was outrageous that he wasn't charged with any crime and didn't receive a trial or sentence, all thanks to the "Patriot Act."
He says prison sucked (there were several), but he's friends with the Secret Service agents who arrested him.
And it turned him into a huge Ron Paul supporter. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 365674
1/31/2008 5:55 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
Facists against comedy... I love it.
Don't release the truth cause they might laugh at us? If this works, I officially give up.
this somewhat validates a theory i've had that laughter can be used as a weapon. laughing creates a fun happy creative loving environment...exactly what evil fears most. laughter drains them of all the fear they worked so hard to acquire and makes them weak. Quoting: hard to handle 311866
They want their fellow citizens to FEAR and TREMBLE before them not laugh them into derision like they practice against RON PAUL. |
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The OP
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1/31/2008 6:33 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
Hey, anyone remembers the part in V for vendetta in which they killed that guy for making a freaking parody? This is the way those governments begin. |
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SHR
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1/31/2008 6:45 PM
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LOL...Oh C'mon, Secret Service agents don't want their faces close up and plastered on TV or all over the web, puts their own safety at risk.
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Redheaded Stepchild
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1/31/2008 6:50 PM
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LOL...Oh C'mon, Secret Service agents don't want their faces close up and plastered on TV or all over the web, puts their own safety at risk. Quoting: SHR
Oh, there's no denying that, SHR. But I think that issue was being worked out.
"...Shaffer granted Gilligan's request. He also ordered Lane and attorneys for the Secret Service agents, Richard Westfall and Dugan Bliss, to find out how much it would cost to release the videotapes of the agents with the their faces obscured. ..."
"Until you are willing to organize your friends and neighbors and literally shut down cities - drive at 5mph through the streets of major cities on the freeway and stop commerce, refuse to show up for work, refuse to borrow and spend more than you make, show up in Washington DC with a million of your neighbors and literally shut down The Capitol you WILL be bent over the table on a daily basis." Karl Denninger
Don't blame me; I voted for Ron Paul.
Silence is consent. |
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SHR
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1/31/2008 7:08 PM
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LOL...Oh C'mon, Secret Service agents don't want their faces close up and plastered on TV or all over the web, puts their own safety at risk.
Oh, there's no denying that, SHR. But I think that issue was being worked out.
"...Shaffer granted Gilligan's request. He also ordered Lane and attorneys for the Secret Service agents, Richard Westfall and Dugan Bliss, to find out how much it would cost to release the videotapes of the agents with the their faces obscured. ..." Quoting: Redheaded Stepchild
Well I would say then put it out there as long as it doesn't comprimise the guys from the secret service. Those are people doing a law enforcement job and if they all of a sudden got made a public figure, no undercover work ever, besides it being a risk to them and their families.
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Anonymous Coward
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1/31/2008 7:39 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
ANYTHING THAT IS CLASSIFIED IS A COVERUP, and they are lying, meaning all gov. endeities, all of them, whitehouse, law enforcement=cia,nsa,fbi, locals, judicial system, prosecutors judges supreme court they're all peices if shit, that break their own laws, their conspirators |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 349213
1/31/2008 8:22 PM | | Re: Feds Oppose Release of Cheney Testimony in Colorado Suit -- they fear Comedy Central? | Quote |
"saying they might wind up on YouTube or Comedy Central."
O, no... then the people would be able to see it.
we certainly wouldn't want the people to know something. |
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