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The Moloch Sacrifice Climax/Murdering Children

 
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The Moloch Sacrifice Climax/Murdering Children
from The Jewish Religion: Its Influence Today
by Elizabeth Dilling
VIII.
DEMONOLOGY OF THE PHARISEES

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Murdering Children

No one with a grain of common decency could have anything but the utmost denunciation for murdering children in orgies of blood and obscenity. But the Jewish Talmud permits this, today, in the book of Sanhedrin, its supreme “repository” of the criminal law, justified as giving one’s “seed to Molech.”

The Biblical denunciations of the “abominations,” such as Molech and Baal worship, carry little color to the modern reader, who is ignorant of the black demonism, the bloody cruelty and unbridled perverted lust of paganism, nor do the Biblical writers of today enlighten us.

Soundly bedded in the Bible and ancient history is French historian Gustave Flaubert’s description of child sacrifice to the Baal Molech in Carthage, which had been founded by the Phoenicians. The Phoenician city, Tyre, trading center of the ancient World, was infamous for its Lesbianism, Sodomy and Child-burning black rites. Its total and permanent destruction, foretold by Ezekiel (Chapter 26 and 27), was fulfilled to the last detail after Alexander the Great sold 30,000 of its leading citizens into slavery, building a causeway out of the battered walls and towers Nebuchadnezzar had demolished.

Flaubert (who died in 1880) describes the thirst, the fear, of the Carthaginians:

“They had not despatched to Phoenicia their annual offering due to Tyrian Melkarth … . The gods were indignant with the Republic, and were, no doubt, about to prosecute their vengeance …

“All were feeble in comparison with Moloch the Destroyer … there was no pain great enough for the god, since he delighted in such as was of the most horrible description … He must, accordingly, be fully gratified — it was believed that an immolation by fire would purify Carthage. The ferocity of the people was predisposed towards it.

“The Ancients assembled … and when the pontiff of Moloch asked them whether they would consent to surrender their children … All successively bent their heads in approval … The decision was almost immediately known in Carthage, and lamentations resounded. The cries of the women might everywhere be heard; their husbands consoled them, or railed at them with remonstrances … Then … the priests of Moloch began their task. Men in black robes presented themselves in the houses … the servants of Moloch came and took the children away. Others themselves surrendered them stupidly. Then they were brought to the temple of Tanith, where the priestesses were charged with their amusement and support until the solemn day …

“Part of a wall in the temple of Moloch was thrown down in order to draw out the brazen god without touching the ashes of the altar. Then as soon as the Sun appeared the hierodules pushed it toward the square of Khamon.

“It moved backwards sliding upon cylinders; its shoulders overlapped the walls. No sooner did the Carthaginians see it in the distance than they speedily took to flight, for the Baal could be looked upon with impunity only when exercising his wrath.

[page 52] “A smell of aromatics spread through the streets. All the temples had just been opened simultaneously, and from them came forth tabernacles borne upon chariots, or upon litters carried by the pontiffs. Great plumes swayed at the corners of them, and rays were emitted from their slender pinnacles which terminated in balls of crystal, gold, silver or copper.

“These were the Canaanitish Baalim, offshoots of the supreme Baal. Melkarth’s pavilion, which was of fine purple, sheltered a petroleum flame; on Khamon’s, which was of hyacinith color, there rose an ivory phallus [Note: the male procreative symbol which distinguished the “high places” excoriated by the Bible] bordered with a circle of gems; between Eschmoun’s curtains, which were blue as the ether, a sleeping python formed a circle with his tail … Then came all the inferior forms of the Divinity: Baal Samin, god of celestial space; Baal-Peor … Baal Zehoub … the Irabel of Liyba, the Adrammelech of Chaldaea, the Kijun of the Syrians; Decreto … crept on her fins, and the corpse of ‘Tammouz’ [sex-god whose fast is part of the Talmudic synagogue calendar today] was drawn along in the midst of a catafalque … In order to subdue the kings of the firmament to the Sun [the current Talmudic religion “Greets the Sun” periodically] … diversely colored metal stars were brandished at the end of long poles; and all were there, from the dark Nebo, the genius of Mercury, to the hideous Rahab, which is the constellation of the Crocodile. The Abbadirs, stones which had fallen from the Moon [Note: New Moon days are celebrated in the synagogues monthly today with superstitious rites] were whirling in slings of silver thread; little loaves, representing the female form were borne on baskets by the priests of Ceres; others brought their fetishes and amulets.”

The Jewish idolaters of Jeremiah’s time used these same “sex loaves” and he bewailed the paganism of those whose “children gather wood and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough to make cakes to the Queen of Heaven.” (Jer. 7:18) But when they had to flee into Egypt, and Jerusalem was leveled to the ground for their abominations, as foretold, and Jeremiah reproved them for the same worship of the sex-goddess, they replied that they would do as they pleased: because they had plenty when they did that and had had troubles since they quit. “And … did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour our drink offerings unto her without our men?” (Jer. 44:18, 19) Then Jeremiah tells them that is just why they are in the trouble they are — because they did these things.

Concerning the pagan amulets mentioned by Flaubert, they have been used right to the present time by the Talmudic pagans “which say they are Jews.” (Rev. 2:9. See Exhibits 285, 286, and 287)

Continuing Flaubert’s description of the child sacrifices to Molech:

“The brazen statue continued to advance towards the square of Khamon. The rich, carrying scepters with emerald balls … the Ancients with diadems on their heads … masters of the finances, governors of provinces, sailors and the numerous horde employed at funerals, all with the insignia of their magistracies or the instruments of their calling, were making their way … At last the Baal arrived exactly in the Centre of the square. His pontiffs arranged an enclosure with trellis-work to keep off the multitude … A picture is drawn of the various orders and their positions, their colorful array, “the necromancers all covered with tattooings and the shriekers in patched cloaks … and the Yidonim, who put the bone of a dead man into their mouths to learn the future. The priests of Ceres … were chanting a thesmophorion in the Megarian dialect. [Note: the festival in honor of female procreation of Thesmorphoria.]

“From time to time files of men arrived, completely naked, their arms outstretched, and all holding one another by the shoulders … they drew forth a hoarse and cavernous intonation; their eyes … shone thru the dust, and they swayed their bodies simultaneously, and at equal distances, as though they were all affected by a single movement. They were so frenzied that to restore order the hierodules compelled them, with blows of the stick, to lie flat on the ground, with their faces resting against the brass trellis work.”

A priest of the female procreation goddess Tanith enters and is resented as this is the celebration to honor the male sex-god, Moloch. He, “Schahabarim … owing to his mutilation … could take no part in the cult of Baal.” (Note: The priests of the female goddesses were castrated with “sacred swords” and their “privy member” thrown up against the statue of the goddess as an offering.)

Moses knew of these pagan rites and denounced them in the following terms:

“He that is wounded in the stones, or hath his privy member cut off, shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord.” (Deut. 23:1)
The Fire Burns for the Children

Continuing Flaubert:

“Meanwhile a fire of aloes, cedar, and laurel was burning between the legs of the colossus. The tips of its long wings dipped into the flame; the unguents with which it had been rubbed flowed like sweat over its brazen limbs.

“Around the circular flagstone on which its feet rested, the children, wrapped in black veils, formed a motionless circle … The rich, the Ancients, the women, the whole multitude, thronged behind the priests and on the terraces of the houses. The large painted stars revolved no longer; the tabernacles were set on the ground; and the fumes from the censers ascended perpendicularly …

“Many fainted; others became inert and petrified in their ecstasy. Infinite anguish weighed upon the breasts of the beholders … At last the High Priest of Moloch passed his left hand beneath the children’s veils, plucked a lock of hair from their foreheads and threw it upon the flames. Then the men in the red cloaks chanted the sacred hymn: ‘Homage to thee, Sun! King of two zones, self-generating Creator ‘ … their voices were lost in the outburst of instruments sounding simultaneously to drown the cries of the victims. The eightstringed scheminiths, the kinnors which had ten strings and [page 53] the nebals which had twelve, grated, whistled, and thundered. Enormous leathern bags, bristling with pipes, made a shrill clashing noise; the tambourines, beaten with all the players’ might, resounded with heavy, rapid blows; and in spite of the fury of the clarions, the salsalim snapped like grasshoppers’ wings …

“The hierodules, with a long hook, opened the seven-storied compartments on the body of the Baal. They put meal into the highest, two turtle-doves into the second, an ape into the third, a ram into the fourth, a sheep into the fifth, and as no ox was to be had for the sixth, a tawny hide taken from the sanctuary was thrown into it. The seventh compartment yawned empty still … it was well to make trial of the arms of the god. Slender chainlets stretched from his fingers up to his shoulders and fell behind, where men by pulling them made the two hands rise to a level with the elbows, and come close together against the belly; they were moved several times in succession with little abrupt jerks.

“Then the instruments were still. The fire roared. An individual sacrifice was necessary, a perfectly voluntary oblation … Then the priests to encourage the people drew bodkins from their girdles and gashed their faces. [Note the description in I Kings 18:28 of the priests of Baal: “And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed upon them.”]

“The Devotees, who were stretched on the ground outside, were brought within the enclosure. A bundle of horrible irons was thrown to them, and each chose his own torture. They drove in spits between their breasts; they split their cheeks … then they twined their arms together, and surrounded the children in another large circle which widened and contracted in turns. They reached to the balustrade; they threw themselves back again, and then began once more, attracting the crowd to them by the dizziness of their motion with its accompanying blood and shrieks.”
The Moloch Sacrifice Climaxes

Returning to Flaubert’s description:

“By degrees people came into the end of the passages; they flung into the flames pearls, gold vases, cup, torches, all their wealth; the offerings became more numerous and more splendid.

“At last a man who tottered, a man pale and hideous with terror, thrust forth a child; then a little black mass was seen between the hands of the colossus, and sank into the dark opening. The priests bent over the edge of the great flagstone and a new song burst forth …

“The children ascended slowly, and as the smoke formed lofty eddies as it escaped … Not one stirred. Their wrist and ankles were tied, and the dark drapery prevented them from seeing anything and from being recognized …

“The brazen arms were working more quickly. They paused no longer. Every time that a child was placed in them the priests of Moloch spread out their hands upon him to burden him with the crimes of the people, vociferating:

‘They are not men, but oxen!’ The devout exclaimed: ‘Lord! eat!’ and the priests of Proserpine complying through terror with the needs of Carthage, muttered the Eleusinian formula: ‘Pour out rain! bring forth!’

“The victims when scarcely at the edge of the opening, disappeared like a drop of water on a red-hot plate, and white smoke rose amid the great scarlet color. Nevertheless, the appetite of the god was not appeased. He ever wished for more. In order to furnish him with a larger supply, the victims were piled upon his hands with a big chain above them which kept them in their place. Some devout persons had at the beginning wished to count them, to see whether their number corresponded with the days of the solar year, but others were brought, and it was impossible to distinguish them in the giddy motion of the horrible arms. This lasted a long, indefinite time until the evening. Then the partitions inside assumed a darker glow, and burning flesh might have been seen. Some even believed they could decry hair, limbs, and whole bodies.

“Night fell: clouds accumulated above the Baal. The funeral-pile, which was flameless now, formed a pyramid of coals up to his knees; completely red like a giant covered with blood, he looked, with his head thrown back, as though he were staggering beneath the weight of his intoxication.

“In proportion as the priests made haste, the frenzy of the people increased; as the number of victims was diminishing, some cried out to spare them, other that still more were needful. The walls, with their burden of people, seemed to be giving away beneath the howlings of terror and mystic voluptuousness. Then the faithful came into the passages, dragging their children, who clung to them; and they beat them in order to make them let go, and handed them over to the men in red. The instrument-players sometimes stopped through exhaustion; then the cries of the others might be heard, and the frizzling of the fat as it fell upon the coals.

“The henbane-drinkers crawled on all fours around the colossus, roaring like tigers; the Yidonim vaticinated, the Devotees sang with their cloven lips; the trellis work had been broken through, all wished for a share in the sacrifice: — fathers, whose children had died previously, cast their effigies, their playthings, their preserved bones into the fire.

“Some who had knives rushed upon the rest. They slaughtered one another. [Note: One is reminded here of Deuteronomy 14:1 “ye shall not cut yourselves.”] The hierodules took the fallen ashes at the edge of the flagstone in bronze fans, and cast them into the air that the sacrifice might be scattered over the town and even to the region of the stars.

“The loud noise and the great light had attracted the Barbarians* to the foot of the walls; they clung to the wreck of the helepolis to have a better view, and gazed open-mouthed in horror.” (“Salammbo,” Gustave Flaubert: born France: died 1880.)
LaCroix on Moloch

As to the same rites, LaCroix states:

“Moloch was represented under the figure of a man with the head of a calf … erected upon an immense oven, which [see Note 1 below] [page 54] was lighted to consume at once the seven kinds of offerings. During this holocaust, the priests of Moloch kept up a terrible music, with sistrums and tambours, in order to stifle the cries of the victims. Then took place that infamy cursed by the God of Israel: the Molochites abandoned themselves to practices worthy of the land of Onan (masturbation] and, inspired by the rhythmic sound of the musical instruments, writhed about the incandescent statue, which appeared red thru the smoke; and they gave forth frenzied cries as, in accordance with the Biblical expression, they gave their seed to Moloch.” (“History of Prostitution,” by Paul LaCroix, French author and historian; 1806-84)
Judaism Permits Child Sacrifices to Moloch

The whole Bible is full of and condemns the bloody business of pagan demonology, including Baal worship with its self-cutting with knives and Moloch worship with child sacrifice. Both are condoned or permitted by the modern Jewish Babylonian Talmud.

Every form of ancient paganism decried by the Bible may be found under the “whited sepulchre” of so-called “Judaism,” which is actually Pharisee paganism.

“Christian divines,” now, as formerly, would do well to read up on what the Bible condemns, and find those pagan murder practices have not disappeared from the Earth, nor from the “synagogue of Satan.”

Burning children to the demon Moloch is permitted today by the supreme legal authority of the so-called “Jewish” religion, which is the Babylonian Talmud, and, in particular, the Talmud book of Sanhedrin, Folios 64a-64b. Remember, the book of Sanhedrin is, according to its Introduction in the Soncino English translation of 1935, the “chief repository of the criminal law of the Talmud.” (See Exhibit 43)

To justify child sacrifices to Moloch, the Talmud once again cites Scripture, which clearly condemns such pagan practice, and then reverses the clear meaning of the Scripture with hairsplitting “exceptions” to justify these sacrifices. (See Exhibits 66, 67, 68, and 69)

Thus, as Christ put it to the Pharisees, you make the “commandment of God of none effect. Ye hypocrites! Well did Esaias [Isaiah] prophecy of you, saying, This people draw nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” (Matt. 15:7) Christ also referred to Isaiah 29:13. Isaiah well knew the breed of Satanists who used the Bible to destroy it.

The “Mishna” of the Sanhedrin (Exhibit 66) sets out to make supposedly clear orders of Moses against burning or causing to be burned any child to Moloch by (1) handing the child to Moloch and (2) causing the child to be burned.

But, note the “explanation” to the Talmudic Mishna, which states (Exhibit 66): “He who gives of his seed to Molech incurs no punishment unless he delivers it to Moloch” (1) “and causes it to pass through the fire” (2). “If he gave it to Moloch but he did not cause it to pass through the fire, or the reverse” (i.e. caused his child to pass through the fire, but did not give it to Moloch) “he incurs no penalty unless he does both.”

At this point, does it really matter whether an innocent child has been burned in fire and also “given to Moloch” when its murder by fire is condoned if the latter proviso is excluded?

In a footnote to the same Talmud “Mishna” reference (Exhibit No. 66), it is “explained:”

“(5) As two separate offenses, proving that giving one’s seed to Moloch is not idolatry.” What foul idolatry!

The same Talmud section (see Exhibit 67) subverts the Mishna exception “unless he gives it to Moloch” further to: “Punishment is not incurred unless he delivers his seed to the acolytes of Moloch.” Thus, if one delivers his own child into the fire, for death, and to Moloch, there would be “no punishment.”

A further “explanatory footnote” says: “He explains this to be the meaning of the Mishna unless he gives it to Moloch (5). This proves that the offense consists of two parts; (1) formal delivery to the priests, and (2) causing the seed to pass through the fire.” (Exhibit 67)

The same Talmud section (Exhibit 69) includes the repetitional statement that: “the service of Moloch … is not included in general idolatry.” (Note: Reversing the chief idolatrous practice denounced by the Bible!) In Leviticus XX, 2 it is stated: “And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying: … Whosoever he be of the children of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel that giveth any of his seed to Molech … Then treatment of a murderer is demanded: “He shall surely be put to death.”

As to this Biblical prohibition, the Talmud is a masterpiece of satanism stating (Exhibit 68): “If one caused all his seed to pass through the fire to Molech, he is exempt, because it is written, ‘of thy seed’ implying, but not all thy seed.” In footnote 4 the Biblical citation as authority is given as the Leviticus reference referred to above.

Thus, the Talmud “nullifies” the word of God, reversing it while giving it as authority, to permit murdering one’s child in the service of Molech! This cannot be from ignorance of God’s word, clearly cited, and is nothing but sheer blasphemy.

Note 1: At the time referred to by Flaubert, Carthage was under siege from unpaid Barbarians enlisted by Carthage in its war with Rome, as mercenaries, and they were out of funds, water. etc. at the time.
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Don't worry many of us are awakening to this reality, but you must be careful cause "they" control the world of finance, the media, & the Judiciary.
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AC366084 - oh I know all about 'them' alright....

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Moloch

Molech

that is the same one at the Bohemian Grove in California

where they have the 'non-political' politicos socializing in the woods-and the rituals

the giant owl is molech/moloch whoa....
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Molech

that is the same one at the Bohemian Grove in California
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So some say... others don't though...

Concerning Owl Symbolism & Bohemian Grove
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...and of course Moloch/Molech = Saturn = Satan = Baal ie the worship of obelisks - the tallest one being in Washington DC in "St Peter's Square" ie zeus p'tah's square, Cleopatra's needle on the Embankment in London and at Place de la Concorde in Paris: [link to www.matthewdelooze.co.uk]
"Illuminati Monuments of Paris Exposed p1" it's a loooong article but stick with it, although Matthew is very 'English' in his writing ie 'down to Earth' lol!

and then there's this:

Star of David OR Star of Lucifer?
By Jim Searcy

Acts 7:42-43: Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

Amos 5:26-27 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.

Moloch, Chiun and Remphan are all names for the star god, Saturn, whose symbol is a six pointed star formed by two triangles. Saturn was the supreme god of the Chaldeans.

The hexagram was brought to the Jewish people by Solomon when he turned to witchcraft and idolatry after his marriage to Pharaoh's daughter in 922B.C. It became known as the Seal of Solomon in Egyptian magic and witchcraft. David had absolutely nothing to do with the hexagram and that star most certainly did not, in any way, represent God's people. Solomon gave himself up to satanic worship and built altars to Aashtroeth and Moloch (Saturn).

The hexagram faded from Jewish usage for 2,600 years. Then in the 1800’s, in Germany, it was adopted by Mayer Rothchild to mark his house. The six pointed star was used as the Rothchild coat of arms. It is difficult to pin down the date at which the six pointed hexagram star became known as the so-called Star of David. In fact the earliest Jewish application of the symbol outside the Rothchild banking and financial empire is 1873. That was the year that the Magen David was adopted as a Jewish device by the American Jewish Publication Society. It is not even mentioned in the rabbinic literature searches. Other than that fact, no one seems to know when or how the Occult or Satanic star, became the Star of David. What should a Christian or observant Jew have to do with this symbol, NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING. Keep the symbol out of your house. The evidence is overwhelming that it is a cursed symbol which may give demonic ground or license.

The hexagram has remained in use within the occult and is prominent in the rituals and worship of Druids, Freemasons, Astrology, New Age, and Wicca. Witches often have this hexagram symbol, of the so-called Star of David, tattooed on the abdomens or palms of witchcraft initiates.

The so-called Star of David is essentially a hexagram, nothing more, nothing less. There is no Biblical or Jewish evidence that traces this ancient occult symbol with King David of Israel. However, there is evidence that it was used by King Solomon, after he turned to pagan gods and the occult, late in his life. It is a very sobering thought and strong case against OSAS that Solomon’s soul would end up in hell. Here is a man to whom God appeared twice, whose father was King David, who was used by God to write so much scripture, Proverbs, Song of Solomon, and Ecclesiastes.

I Kings 11:4-9 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, [that] his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as [was] the heart of David his father. For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as [did] David his father. Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that [is] before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon. And the LORD was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from the LORD God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice,

The great goal of freemasonry is to rebuild Solomon’s temple – The OCCULT ONE and NOT THE HOLY ONE.

A Masonic book called The Second Mile, an Eastern Star book, reveals that the "six pointed star is a very ancient symbol, and one of the most powerful." The hexagram is used in magic, witchcraft, sorcery and occultism and the casting of zodiacal horoscopes by astrologers. "It was considered to posses mysterious powers."

The six pointed star is used by magicians and alchemists. The sorcerers believed it represented the footprints of a special kind of DEMON called a trud and used it in ceremonies both to call up demons and to keep them away (O. J. Graham, The Six Pointed Star, New Puritan Library, 1988, p.35).

Bill Schnoebelen, a former Satanist, says, "To the sorcerer, the hexagram is a powerful tool to invoke Satan." In fact, the word "hex" -- as to put a "hex" or "curse" on people -- comes from this word.

If you examine the so-called "Star of David," or hexagram, closely, you will discover something astonishing. It has six points, forms six equilateral triangles, and in its interior forms a six sided hexagon -- thus it reveals the number of Satan’ antichrist beast, -- 6 points, 6 triangles, and the 6 sides of the hexagram -- 666 !!!

This ancient occultic figure is also a pagan symbol of sexual union and reproduction. The triangle pointing downward represents the female sexual organ, and the upward pointing triangle represents the male phallus. Joined together in the hexagram, they represent sexual union, to paganism and the occult, the union of the active and passive forces in nature. Thus the hexagram was a part of Satan's original "sex worship" rites and symbols of the sexually oriented rites and ceremonies of BAALISM -- Nimrod and Semiramis -- Easter (Astarte) and Baal -- Venus (Aphrodite) and Bacchus.

read the rest at: [link to www.dccsa.com]
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Moloch

Molech

that is the same one at the Bohemian Grove in California

where they have the 'non-political' politicos socializing in the woods-and the rituals

the giant owl is molech/moloch whoa....
 Quoting: Shadow Dancer

yep. same one. an owl in boheian grove through. and they "sacrifice cares" that once a year, in effigy of course. meaning that it's not real bodies/body in usage. unless you wish to consider each soldier/death through war.
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The Lord said "If you have not experienced what you write then it is nothing more than hypothesis".

That applies to reading spiritual texts as well.

The Lord Jesus was also called a sorcerer.

Lotus
i love satan
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wonder why "weaving spiders come not here"?

oh ishtar (moon goddess), molech (owl) and lion (sun) is a pretty interesting way to look at the trinity or a trinity.
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The Lord said "If you have not experienced what you write then it is nothing more than hypothesis".

That applies to reading spiritual texts as well.

The Lord Jesus was also called a sorcerer.

Lotus
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thought he was called a drunk.
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[link to ngm.nationalgeographic.com]

good picture of the grove and the cremation of care ceremony in 1915
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wonder who drew that little devil to the left and what the heck is he supposed to be doing?
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AC366084 - oh I know all about 'them' alright....

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In Christ - and may Christ have mercy on all our souls - 'theirs' too.
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trinity in correlation to the earth, moon and sun that is.
ishtar, molech/moloch, lion.

oh well.

for newer pic's of the cremation/creamation of cares.
[link to www.cremationofcare.com]


so no one ever considered it strange to be building such a large statue of an owl out in the grove?
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take this photo for instance.
why are some wearing masks? doesn't it look like mask wearing on those to the left?

oh that left hand.

sorry, these aren't all "new" but are perhaps more "clear" than others.
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hmmmm.
come to think of it.
why do some of these pictures remind me more of a lynching than a sacrifice of cares at bohemian grove?

why are there pictured women where women aren't allowed.
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oh, nevermind.

dress up.

can't blame guys for wanting a little bit of fun on their weeks off now can ya?
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geez, call jesus a drunk and everyone shuts up.

way to clear a thread.
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Lotus Feet - do you have a link or a clue as to where you found this quote please??? In all my research (almost 24/7 lol) - I haven't come across it, thanks in anticipation:

""The Lord said "If you have not experienced what you write then it is nothing more than hypothesis".

That applies to reading spiritual texts as well.

The Lord Jesus was also called a sorcerer."


Also, I have to say that in all the Goetia/invocations I have read, Jesus/God is always praised - without God/Christ, nothing is possible.

I have a theory that what we are looking at here is black magick ie Babylonian Talmudism/satanism for personal/egotistical/material gain/control of others aka the 'Tree of Knowledge of good and evil' versus God's true magic ie belief in Him ie aka 'Chi/life force' for spiritual/wisdom and a compassionate world aka the Tree of Life.

In Christ
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Dude.... Flaubert is FICTION.

You know -- as in "he made stuff up."

Check history and archaeology. The whole Flaubert text is just a big pack of dramatic lies -- and was intended as fiction from the very start.

Sheesh. That's like using B'rer Rabbit to prove an Illuminati conspiracy of the Jews.
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or was the sudden hush due to reagan and nixon appearing at a table together? or bush sr and bush jr appearing together?

surely you've seen these dozens of times.
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Oh come on . . DID THEY SAY 'OVENS?!?!'

ZIONAZIS!!!
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"Dude.... Flaubert is FICTION.

You know -- as in "he made stuff up."

Check history and archaeology. The whole Flaubert text is just a big pack of dramatic lies -- and was intended as fiction from the very start.

Sheesh. That's like using B'rer Rabbit to prove an Illuminati conspiracy of the Jews."

Oh thanks AC3363679 - I can go back to sleep and read and re-read Brer Rabbit in the knowledge that this is the real world and that molech/och is just pure fantasy.

thank you - oh, DO enlighten me about Elizabeth Dilling in which the Flaubert article appears - below are the contents of her book with a brief foreward about her at the end.

THE JEWISH
RELIGION
Its Influence Today

Formerly Titled
THE PLOT AGAINST CHRISTIANITY


Elizabeth Dilling [link to www.comeandhear.com]

The Pharisees, the Talmud, and Modern Judaism

The Missing Link
The Babylonian Talmud, Sole Authority
Why Was It So Often Burned?
Babylonian Talmud — the Law
Was Christ Just to Pharisees?
Bible Versus Oral Law
The Babylonian Talmud
Talmud — Six Main Division


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II.
. The Talmud Reviled

Emperor Hadrian and the Talmud
The Popes and the Talmud
The Talmud at the Stake
The Talmud and Martin Luther, the Father of Protestantism
Luther's Last Sermon


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III.

The Talmud and Bible Believers

Talmudic Anti-Christianity
Christianity Calls from Hell
Incest Preferable to Christianity
Death from Snakebite Preferable
Jesus and the High Priest's Privy
More Lies to Fool Us
Jesus Knew the Talmud
The Talmud and Mary, Mother of Jesus
Christ as "Balaam"
The 18 Benedictions
The Talmud — Five Deaths to Jesus


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IV.

Judaism — Anti-Gentilism and Exploitation of Non-Jews

Articles Lost By Gentiles
Wine Touched By Gentiles
Gentiles Cast in a Pit
Non-Jews — "The People Who Are Like An Ass"
Always Make Money
Gentiles Are "Beasts"
Non-Jews — No Property Rights
Gentiles Must Not Rest, Even on Mondays
Goring One's Ox
In Law Suits, Cheat the Gentile
Gentiles Must Suffer to Make Jews the Messiah
Gentile Babies Defile
Swearing Falsely — the Kol Nidre
Robbery, Stealing, Murder — Approved Against Gentiles
Cheating a Gentile Out of Wages
Sodomy and Killing a Gentile
Kill the Gentile Who Studies the Torah
Accidental Killing of Jews


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V.

Talmudic Immorality, Asininity and Pornography: The Reprobate Mind

From a Roof
Bestiality
Babies
Incest
Incest with Lot
Nieces
Harlots and Dogs
Permissible Adultery and Intercourse With the Dead
Polygamy
The Jewish Talmud and Legally Murdering Your Neighbor
Ten "Innocent" Murderers
"Mercy" Killings Approved
Cursing and Striking Parents
The Talmud Book of Gittin and Some Health Remedies
Use of the Bible for Asininity and Obscenity
Farming Inferior for Jews
Talmud Instructions for the Sabbath
Moving a Door Key
The Sabbath Louse-Hunt
Sabbath Intercourse
Vows
Talmud — Juvenile Birth Control and the "Two Hairs" Test for Puberty
More Talmudic "Wisdom"
Virginity on a Monetary Scale
Sodomy Approved
The Talmud Today


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VI.

Judaism Not Monotheistic

Blasphemy Approved
Jews the Messiah
The Jewish Cabala
Cabalistic Hasidism
The Cabala and God
Theoretical Cabala
Practical Cabala
Transmigration of Souls
The Zohar, Principal Work of the Cabala
"Glorification of Man"
Procreation is "God"
Sholem; "Divine" Talmudists; "Holy Communion"
The Cabala and the World
Metatron
Letters Create the World — Not God
Cabala Exalts the Jew
The Cabala — Sefer Raziel
The Cabala — Sefer Yetzirah


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VII.

Judaism and Paganism

Babylon
Babylon the Symbol
Talmudic Jewish Months Are Babylonian
Judaism — Tree Worship
Trees Today
Tammuz
Female Procreative Goddess
Ezekiel on Jerusalem Abominations and Tammuz
Today's "Wailings for Tammuz"
The "Sacred" Star of David
Judaism — Star Worship
Stars in Talmudic Idolatry
Star-Worship in the Jewish Calendar
Astrology and Moon-Worship
"Father of Lies"
Isaiah and New Moon Days
Blessing of the Sun
"Once in 28 Years Sun at Point of Creation"


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VIII.

Demonology of the Pharisees

Jewish Magic
Habdalah
Tashlik and Kapparah
Lilith — Favorite Demoness
To Fig
Spirits and Cemeteries
Jewish Necromancy
The Shulhan Aruch
Ritual Murder
Murdering Children
The Fire Bums For The Children
The Moloch Sacrifice Climaxes
Lacroix on Moloch
Judaism Permits Child Sacrifices to Moloch


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IX.

Jews Not a Race

Christ Born of Judah
Jews Not "Semites"
Jews Never Pure Semites
Jews a Non-Racial Pharisee Sect
Why Do They "Look Jewish"?
Exhibits A-H


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X.

Jews God's "Chosen"?

"Brotherhood" With Anti-Christianity?


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XI.

The Jews and Marxism — Socialism — Communism

Moses Hess — Jewish Marxist and Progenitor of Zionism
Hess and Christianity
Jewish Cover-up
Attempted Cover-up on the Jewish Bund
Exhibits I. J. K
Jewish Marxist-Zionist Minority Power
National Workmen's Committee of 1915
American Jewish Committee
Rabbi Wise
American Jewish Congress
Majority of Jews in Zionist-Marxist Organizations
The Jewish Labor Committee
B'nai B'rith Gloats Again
Jewish People's Committee
Poale Zion
Marxist Parties in Israel


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XII.
The Jews and the Communization of Russia

The Jewish Bankers
The Kaiser
Jews in Russian Revolution of 1905
Rutenberg and the Russian Revolutions
Father Gapon
More Jewish Manipulations in the United States
Treaty With Russia Broken
Ford "Apologizes" to Jewry
The Russian Revolution — Suppressed State Department Documents
The Revolution Begins
Enter Kerensky
Kronstadt
Jewish Financing Long Planned
Furstenberg at Stockholm
The Bolsheviks Take Over
Consequent "Anti-Semitism"
The Mysterious Ovdendyke Report
The Jews Gloat


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XIII.

Modern Jewish "Anti-Communism"

Foreign Changes


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XIV.
Prophecy and the Developing Anti-Christ World Government

The Anti-Christ
The Jerusalem Temple Rebuilding
Now Comes the United Nations
The Developing "Babylonian" World Government
Isaiah on the Anti-Christ
The Jewish "Messianic" Reign
More About the Jewish "Messianic" Era
Chad Gadyah
Babylon and Israel
Christ's Identification Marks


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Table of Exhibits — 1 through 302, A through K



95
Index



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Foreword
E
lizabeth Dilling Stokes was born, raised, and educated in Chicago. After attending the University of Chicago she married, and for many years devoted her life to her children, social activities on the North Shore of Chicago, and being a concert harpist. After hearing of the great "humanitarian experiment" in Soviet Russia, she traveled there in 1931, and was able to go behind the scenes. She was shocked at the forced labor, the squalid living quarters, and deplorable living conditions, and the atmosphere of fear created by the Soviet dictatorship.

She was most shocked by the virulent anti-Christianity of the atheist Communist regime.

Following her return to the United States she lectured and wrote about what she had seen, realizing from the opposition which immediately arose that a substantial Marxist movement was active in the United States. In 1934 her first book The Red Network was published, and exposé of the persons and organizations furthering Red causes in the United States. In 1936, her second book, The Roosevelt Red Record and Its Background, was published.

Almost immediately after these books were published, she was attacked as "anti-semitic," although she had actually offered her anti-Communist services to Jewish organizations, and knew nothing of organized Jewish involvement in the Marxist movement. After researching and studying, however, in 1940 she published her third book The Octopus, which dealt with these subjects.

After World War II commenced, Mrs. Dilling became convinced that, despite President Roosevelt's protestations that not one American boy would ever again fight on foreign soil, there was a movement afoot to involve the United States, with the result that a substantial part of the world would be communized later. In 1941, she led a Mother's March on Washington to oppose the "Lend Lease" bill, proclaimed to help keep us out of war by its sponsors, but proving the last step for our involvement. The bill passed by only one vote. A few months later, the United States went to war.

In 1944, Mrs. Dilling's views involved her in the now infamous mass "sedition" trial. The case was ultimately dismissed by a Federal Court as "a travesty on justice."

She was later remarried to Jeremiah Stokes, a Christian anti-Communist writer, and she continued to write and lecture in behalf of Christianity and Constitutional Americanism, first publishing this book in 1964.

Mrs. Dilling Stokes died in 1966 at the age of 72.
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Dude.... Flaubert is FICTION.

You know -- as in "he made stuff up."

Check history and archaeology. The whole Flaubert text is just a big pack of dramatic lies -- and was intended as fiction from the very start.

Sheesh. That's like using B'rer Rabbit to prove an Illuminati conspiracy of the Jews.
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bump

the romans wanted to attack carthagina and they let out some anticarthaginian propaganda

flaubert took advantage of that roman myth
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Molech

that is the same one at the Bohemian Grove in California

So some say... others don't though...

Concerning Owl Symbolism & Bohemian Grove
[link to thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com]
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Regardless of what anyone says, it cannot bode well for the common man when you get the Bilderbergs, Rothchilds, Rockerfellers and a cast of other world movers/shakers together in one place. This is how they describe themselves at Grove suarees:

Hill Billies (Big Business/Banking/Politics/Universities/Media)

Mandalay (Big Business/Defense Contractors/Politics/U.S. Presidents)

Cave Man (Think Tanks/Oil Companies/Banking/Defense Contractors/Universities/Media)

Stowaway (Rockefeller Family Members/Oil Companies/Banking/Think Tanks)

Uplifters (Corporate Executives/Big Business)

Owls Nest (U.S. Presidents/Military/Defense Contractors)

Hideaway (Foundations/Military/Defense Contractors)

Isle of Aves (Military/Defense Contractors)

Lost Angels (Banking/Defense Contractors/Media)

Silverado squatters (Big Business/Defense Contractors)

Sempervirens (Californian-based Corporations)

Hillside (Military — Joint Chiefs of Staff)
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[link to www.internationalstandardbible.com]

2. Saturn or Moloch Worship:

The difficulty of the passage is that both Amos and Stephen appear to represent the worship of the golden calf as identical with the worship of Moloch and of the planet Saturn; yet though Kaivan is only mentioned here, the nature of the reference would imply that this deity was one familiar both to speaker and hearers. The difficulty vanishes at once, if the plain statement of Stephen be accepted, that when God permitted Israel to "go after the stubbornness of their heart, that they might walk in their own counsels" (Psalms 81:12) He "gave them up to serve the host of heaven." The worship of the golden calf was star worship; it was the solar bull, the constellation Taurus, in which the sun was at the time of the spring equinox, that was thus represented. The golden calf was therefore analogous to the familiar symbol of the Mithraic cult, the bull slain by Mithra, Sol Invictus, if indeed the latter did not take its origin from this apostasy of Israel.

See CALF , GOLDEN CALF .

And Moloch the king, the idol of the Ammonites and Phoenicians, was intimately connected both with the solar bull and the planet Saturn. According to the rabbins, his statue was of brass, with a human body but the head of an ox. On the Carthaginian worship of Moloch or Saturn, Diodorus (book xx, chapter i) writes:

"Among the Carthaginians there was a brazen statue of Saturn putting forth the palms of his hands bending in such a manner toward the earth, as that the boy who was laid upon them, in order to be sacrificed, should slip off, and so fall down headlong into a deep fiery furnace. Hence it is probable that Euripides took what he fabulously relates concerning the sacrifice in Taurus, where he introduces Iphigenia asking Orestes this question: `But what sepulchre will me dead receive, shall the gulf of sacred fire me have?' The ancient fable likewise that is common among all the Grecians, that Saturn devoured his own children, seems to be confirmed by this law among the Carthaginians." The parallelism of the text therefore is very complete. The Israelites professed to be carrying the tabernacle of Yahweh upon which rested the Shekinah glory; but in spirit they were carrying the tabernacle of the cruelest and most malignant of all the deities of the heathen, and the light in which they were rejoicing was the star of the planet assigned to that deity.
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Molech

that is the same one at the Bohemian Grove in California

So some say... others don't though...

Concerning Owl Symbolism & Bohemian Grove
[link to thefreemanperspective.blogspot.com]

Regardless of what anyone says, it cannot bode well for the common man when you get the Bilderbergs, Rothchilds, Rockerfellers and a cast of other world movers/shakers together in one place.
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I totally agree.
I also think the owl symbolism is an important aspect though.
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owl symbol?
wisdom.
wise ole owl.
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interesting read about who was initially held in esteem at the grove.
[link to www.nps.gov]
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YOU SICK, FUCKIN, CHRISTER, LIBERAL, BLEEDING-HEART SCUM,

TOLERANT OF OTHER RELIGIONS?

DIE.
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anyway, the first "cremation of cares" was done at the foot of a statue of buddha, september 3,1892.
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