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FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles!

 
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THE FACTS-GUNDERSON PRISONER BOXCARS WITH SHACKLES-A REPORT

Here is a summary of the previous information circulating about Gunderson’s PRISONER BOXCARS WITH SHACKLES from previous reports circulating all over the nation on this subject, which I have written. BRENT GUNDERSON is challenging my information. CAN YOU PROVE HIM WRONG??? Many people have raised skeptical questions about reports of prisoner BOXCARS AND SHACKLES being sighted across America. Some people think that they are only reported originally through Phil Schnieder in a Patriot interview. Recently, someone erroneously reported that MY information on them originated from Phil Schnieder.

WRONG! My research and documentation on the boxcars and shackles goes far beyond Phil´s interview. Long before I heard of him, I had eyewitness information on these boxcars. A van full of eyewitnesses, missionaries traveling across America to evangelize and pray, stumbled across these boxcars in Montana, near Columbia Falls in Glacier. They described boxcars, in this case painted black, with shackles welded into them and a modern guillotine at the head of each boxcar inside. As they were photographing mountain scenery, they decided to follow railroad tracks into the wilderness so as to not get lost. This is how they came upon these boxcars with shackles. I later received a report from Lee Harrington of Valier, MT, who was a professional metal worker. He told me how in Glascow, MT, summer youth workers were employed to weld shackles into boxcars in that operation. They were then shipped west to Glacier and stored on remote sidetracks. Passing through the Blackfoot Indian Reservation in Cutbank, a local Blackfoot Indian, George Bullcalf, spotted these strange boxcars. When I interviewed local Patriots in Columbia Falls, they confirmed that hunters often stumbled upon such boxcars on remote train spurs in that wilderness region.

I THEN TRAVELED TO PORTLAND OREGON, and lectured in the home of an actual employee of GUNDERSON STEEL FABRICATION. The wife of this high level executive called this meeting personally to make a public admission. In the meeting were OTHER GUNDERSON EMPLOYEES who had witnessed the prisoner boxcars in the higher than normal, three floor/three tier prisoner boxcars.

She admitted that her husband finally told her that GUNDERSON WAS UNDER SECRET CONTRACT FROM THE US GOVERNMENT TO PRODUCE THESE PRISONER BOXCARS. She also admitted that Gunderson had a satellite factory for a boxcars with shackles operation in Texas.

I called Col. Jim Ammerman in Texas, famous military Patriot-lecturer against martial law, and told him about this. He replied, “A friend of mine who is a metal welder called me recently, and said he had gone to apply for a job in offered in Texas for welding. When he was told that it involved WELDING SHACKLES INTO BOXCARS, he declined the job!”

I later interviewed Russian immigrants in this area who admitted that some of their people were working at Gunderson, and one young man, Sasha, admitted working on prisoner boxcars and described them completely to his Russian Christian friends there. THE RUSSIAN COMMMUNITY NOW KNOWS ABOUT THEM AND IS VERY AFRAID OF THE IMPLICATIONS!!! Many Russians still work there.

Another source, WATCHDOG, a retired military vet with a watchdog group, described yet another boxcar with shackles operation in New Hampshire, with three tiered boxcars fitted with shackles.

Metal worker Lee Harrington also described 20,000 CHINESE prisoner boxcars with shackles and modern guillotines, in the form of 40 foot railroad containers, coming into America via the west coast. They were ordered by the American government through a Senator who visited China and ordered these items. Workers unloading them became suspicious and began to investigate and discovered these horrors from China. Such 40 foot cargo containers from China are now piled up along the West Coast, especially around Long Beach Naval Shipyard, turned over the Chinese. I receive constant reports across America regarding these types of prisoner boxcars from former radio listeners and Patriots across America…and Canada. Recently, a former high level satanist from the mountains of North Carolina, now a Christian and receiving discipleship, admitted that boxcars with shackles were indeed in the mountains of NC and waiting for the hour of martial law. (Asheville, NC) He warned that many Patriots and Christians arrested and secured into these prisoner boxcars under martial law will never even make it to the death camps..that many will be tortured and sacrificed once restrained in these prisoner boxcars.
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I lived in Whitefish MT 97-2000 and saw a train come through at 3a.m. that was full of UN white (or light grey tanks, vehicles) it was flying through town, but with no lighting or markings on any of the rail cars. Whitefish is about 20 miles from Columbia Falls....
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This story is a hoax and has been going around for years.
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You are A idiot.
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when the time comes, assuming they don't try to draft me or force me to do anything for the "state" I'm just gonna keep a low profile and comply with their demands. They leave me alone, I'll continue to work at my job and live my life, following their rules.
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when the time comes, assuming they don't try to draft me or force me to do anything for the "state" I'm just gonna keep a low profile and comply with their demands. They leave me alone, I'll continue to work at my job and live my life, following their rules.
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What if they ask you to shackle your fellow citizens?
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This story is a hoax and has been going around for years.
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You are A idiot.
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rolleyes
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Thank you OP for posting this.

Please see the thread I just posted, I believe it is related to yours.

Thread: WHAT YOU HAVE TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND IS THIS...
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I think there is an strong element of truth to the general story. It's true that the basic details have been on the net for a few years, but that is no good reason to ignore it.
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333743,

'when the time comes, assuming they don't try to draft me or force me to do anything for the "state" I'm just gonna keep a low profile and comply with their demands. They leave me alone, I'll continue to work at my job and live my life, following their rules.'

What if they ask you to take a mark in your right hand or forehead and worship the beast? You will burn in hell for all ertinity if you do.
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Is there a single piece of solid evidence to support this story in all the years it has been floating around on the net - a photo maybe? - despite all the thousands of box cars out there that people have 'stumbled' across! - is that credible?

Yet most here at GLP seem to swallow it hook line and sinker.
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Is there a single piece of solid evidence to support this story in all the years it has been floating around on the net - a photo maybe? - despite all the thousands of box cars out there that people have 'stumbled' across! - is that credible?

Yet most here at GLP seem to swallow it hook line and sinker.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 366596


YOU are going to be shackled: neck, wrists and ankles. Then when you demand hard proof that they intend to kill you, they will slice off your head and mail it to your family postage due!

Sorry, got a little carried away there...
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And always will be...
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This story was around in the 1970's also. Just gets bigger and bigger over the years. in all them years not much of fact has anyone found. Some rail cars made is it. Read one place that the cars were for pigs and others that we eat.
bases have been around for years and years for use in many things and for what they think they may need and never have needed.
Still like reading about this even thow i think it is all BS.
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Don't feed the neo-con trlls.
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Wasn't there a - FEMA Coffins - thread here recently.
This fits nicely. That fits nicely. We'll all go nicely...
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The "coffins" turned out to be ridgid plastic burial vaults used in cemetaries to house normal coffins - they are molded by Flambeau and stored outside - Someone spotted the factory inventory and dreamed up the rest. The rail cars transport new vehicles to central distribution points - that's it. Can they repurposed? Sure. Is there more to their ominous appearance? Possibly. I've only ever seen them transport new vehicles.
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boxcars under wraps for a while.....c'mon, get real nutjobs....where's the profit in "off with their heads"?.....



How about intact organs?
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Interesting concept.
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I think today's SF Chronicle story implies a future filled with shackles.
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How in the Hell can they Hide 122,000 railroad
boxcars??
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I have driven across the US many times. When I drive threw states such as Utah, Nevada, Wyoming, I find myself thinking just what the hell is behind those hills?
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Wasn't there a - FEMA Coffins - thread here recently.
This fits nicely. That fits nicely. We'll all go nicely...


The "coffins" turned out to be ridgid plastic burial vaults used in cemetaries to house normal coffins - they are molded by Flambeau and stored outside - Someone spotted the factory inventory and dreamed up the rest. The rail cars transport new vehicles to central distribution points - that's it. Can they repurposed? Sure. Is there more to their ominous appearance? Possibly. I've only ever seen them transport new vehicles.
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What you say is true here. Persons can see things and percieve things to be totally different than what they are. When this happens and you go to the source of what you saw you answer their questions. Then when you say to the source "Okay now I have answered your questions. Please answer mine?" Does that give that source the right to ask you to submit to a mental health eval. To have you taken to the hospital. To be forced a shot. Then release you to your vehicle. Never having your questions answered.
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We can always morph into iron-clad space cars, moonwalk, and stuff like that:

Smooth Criminal - Michael Jackson
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Thanks for your kind reply. At least you didn't rip my head off. I DO understand exactly what your trying to say and some of makes good sence. I see the logic in your words.

However, what is coming is NOT logical . . .and it will make no sence. I don't have time to argue, nor do I want to.

The only thing I can do is point people to the one book that predicts all of the things the so-called "conspiracy" nuts are aware of; and it ain't "my" book. Heck, I haven't had more than a couple of bucks on sales. I give them away, and keep a few copies for future referance so when these things come to pass people will recall the warnings.

There is a war going on, and it's not just between the Muslims and Christians. This war is between the Creator of the Universe, and Satan, the master destroyer. Each Being uses PEOPLE, human beings, to accomplish their goals.

In the end you know WHO wins. Meanwhile when you and I are taken before the councils to be tried as Christians or TRUE Patroits, will we be brave and couragous or cowardly and deny the truth. [Matthew 24 Mark 13 etc]

Now let's wait and see what the next two years bring. You're NOT going to have to wait another ten years . . .

I GUARANTEE YOU THAT!


If its between the Creator of the Universe and Satan, then I doubt there is anything anyone can do about it. Games over any way you look at it.

Will it happen? And if it does happen, will it happen in our lifetimes? Odds say NO as every generation that has lived in the past 2,000 years has honestly believed that they were the last generation. Every one of them. They werent all stupid. To think we are smarter then them and that we see the signs better than them is pretty arrogant. My grandmother truly believed Hitler was the AntiChrist and that she would see the return of Christ.

In a hundred or two hundred years, someone will read your post and laugh and say...Wow, this Messinger guy really didnt read the signs right did he Martha. The silly old fart. We are the generation that will see the return of Christ. Just look at the signs.

lol
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Yes people have been depicting the end for thousands of years. I believe the Christ even said this would happen. He though did give signs. Many will disagree on the signs and when they began. This I know. Scripture claims the first time our Creator destroyed a world he was ashamed of his creation. I do not believe he was ashamed of himself or regretted the fact he created humans. Obviously he wasn't. There were survivors from that catastrophe. From there own selfishness their own bad choices he had no other choice. The world had become filled with violence. I am sure it took some time to create this nice little home he provided for the human family. The earth was not bad the people were. He destroyed a whole world for the sake of a few righteous ones. I believe scripture claims the man and the family he used told persons for hundreds of years of a coming disaster. Take a look around Sir. Talk to a 100 year old. I can assure you a 100 years ago a senior did not have to worry about some punk coming into their home. Take a look at your own lifetime. A 100 years ago a senior I am sure did not have to worry about whether there own child is doing the books right. I would say once again we have become a whole world filled with violence. He will have know choice just for the sake of a few righteous ones. Yes Sir, Some generation must see the end.
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Question : IF all these boxcars are located in isolated spots, AWAY from prying eyes, couldn't these same boxcars catch fire ( via 'spontaneous combustion' ) and NOT be a problem in the future ?

Suggestion: It might be a good idea if some of the local malitia keept an eye on these boxcars, to be sure the fire doesn't spread to other boxcars, via dry grass growing up under them. AND, bring plenty of beer, so your 'hoses' don't run out of liquid to extinguish the fire.

After all, we don't want our government spending MORE of the taxpayers money on MORE boxcars, OR, 'other' methods of sanitizing the population of undesireables. They might also check for boobytraps that might explode, once the cars are set in motion for 'pickup' duty.
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Good Idea. So where did you say these boxcars are. My son is a beer salesman I can supply the beer.
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Now I am not nieve, and know what the government is capable of, so such boxcars are very likely to exist. However, I must add this for the sake of clarity. I lived on the Kokonee Bend in Columbia Falls at the time this story was first reported by the "missionaries". My question was always a simple one.

If, as was told, they were "photographing mountain scenery", since they had "decided to follow railroad tracks into the wilderness so as to not get lost", why then with all that photographic equipment did they not take a single picture?

Why only describe the horrific find? Indeed, I asked all of MY people from all accross the Highline, from Libby to Fort Peck, and could not find one soul who would corroborate such a thing. Of course, I tend to distrust missionaries in the first place, being Lakota...
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i jumped ahead from page one to say, i could SWER i heard some years ago about America buying a whole shitload of guillotines, from France i think it was.
well, now we know where they went to.
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THE FACTS-GUNDERSON PRISONER BOXCARS WITH SHACKLES-A REPORT

Here is a summary of the previous information circulating about Gunderson’s PRISONER BOXCARS WITH SHACKLES from previous reports circulating all over the nation on this subject, which I have written.
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This shit is sooooooooooooooo old and it aint true.

Not again! 10.Feb.2005 17:29
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This article gave me a good laugh. But it is sad to see such balderdash on Portland indymedia.
This nonsense appeared a while ago saying the same thing
I've worked at Gunderson Inc for many years, so let's get a few facts straight.
One we haven't built boxcars for a few years now in Portland. They are made down in Mexico; we only build container cars these days.
The 'shackles' are dimples which are with a small piece of metal going across which is used for tying goods down.
Think about it, why would you bother putting prisoners in shackles anyway. The Nazis in
Germany just herded people onto a box car at the point of a gun, and then shut the door. It's hard to cut through steel with your finger nails.
And they could just use the containers if they wanted to transport prisoners, like they have used in Afghanistan and Iraq.
And who the hell is Brent Gunderson? Gunderson has been owned by Greenbrier since around 1985. There is no 'Brent' or any other Gunderson on the board at Greenbrier.
And 'three tier' boxcars? What on earth is this person going on about?
I can only imagine this person is talking about the automax which transports cars.
The funniest thing is a 'guillotine.' What kind of a guillotine are we talking about? And just what are they going to use this for? If they are going to execute people why go to all this bother?
20,000 Chinese boxcars/containers? Very probable they are stacked up because when goods are imported in them, it is cheaper to scrap the containers than send them back empty.
AH, that's it! We are all going to be shipped off to China in these containers. Well at least George Bush doesn't live there.
Come on folks lets get serious about things, enough of these stupid posts.
We have a battle to win. The one at Gunderson isn't shackled boxcars, but wages, jobs, pensions, vacation, etc.
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guillotines are used for political beheadings.
AND the use of this method leaves all organs INTACT!

they were ordered from Chani/Japan, not France.
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Ok well if there are THAT many box cars, where is it on google earth? and why is the company offering a $1000 reward for proof?? I like a conspiracy and much as the next guy but this story has been circulating for awhile now. And I believe more in UFOs than this cause people are at least getting some type of footage..So I challenge you..Dont be mad at the BS flag...just prove yourself and your sources..

Hell Even I can post on here and say HEY my govt source told me that LA is going to be on lockdown with the military tomorrow at 9 am..Would you believe me with noe kind of proof? Why not?


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