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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 143474 2/13/2008 11:57 AM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote |

Ok well if there are THAT many box cars, where is it on google earth? and why is the company offering a $1000 reward for proof?? I like a conspiracy and much as the next guy but this story has been circulating for awhile now. And I believe more in UFOs than this cause people are at least getting some type of footage..So I challenge you..Dont be mad at the BS flag...just prove yourself and your sources..
Hell Even I can post on here and say HEY my govt source told me that LA is going to be on lockdown with the military tomorrow at 9 am..Would you believe me with noe kind of proof? Why not? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 143474 2/13/2008 11:59 AM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote |
It's true. I've seen the trains with the shackles and guilliotines. They usually park them on unused side-rails out in the sticks. Came across one while hunting. I'd heard rumors back in 2001, then came across the real deal. It's also true that we're watching them. The camps that Halliburton constructed are all near rails and airports. Also, look on the back of your road signs. They have tac-marks which contain code - directions to heliports,airports,railways,schools, and hospitals. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 349428
Ummm yeah thats gonna help beong on the BACK of road signs..THWACK! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 272356 2/13/2008 12:05 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | i would think the boxcars are kept/used underground so that is why they arent seen often.
and who is to say they are to be used for humans on the surface of this planet anyway?
guillotines are a more HUMANE way of execution so says a congress member years ago, he was pushing for its use.
ill have to go find his name...
lets not forget the goergia guidestones! |
| Nightshade 09 User ID: 5854 2/13/2008 12:24 PM
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Its going to be funn really funn watching all you BS scream your little heads off when the doors close on your gas chambers.. You'll all be standing there "Man its all BS its all BS!" Unable to accept reality to the bitter end.
Shady
FEMA: Trains To Take You To The Camps
FEMA: Trains To Take You To The Camps
02-13-2008
www.roguegovernment.com
Lee Rogers
[link to www.roguegovernment.com]
The U.S. government continues to expand its plans to setup a nationalized concentration camp system under the guise of emergency management. FEMA has already come a long way in establishing their concentration camp system, but now it looks as if they might be trying to figure out a way to transport people to these facilities. A disturbing revelation from a FEMA official confirmed that the institution is looking at ways to use passenger trains to get elderly and sick people out of harms way during an emergency situation. According to an Associated Press report, FEMA official Glenn Cannon made these revelations testifying in front of a congressional subcommittee in New Orleans. Although this might seem like a relatively minor development, it is actually very serious considering preparations the U.S. government has already made for martial law and the establishment of FEMA run concentration camps. Looking back in history, the Nazis used trains to transport large groups of Jews to concentration camps where many of them were put to death. It appears as if FEMA is moving in the direction of setting up a similar transportation system that could take not just the sick and elderly but all sorts of people to these concentration camps.
Below is the entire Associated Press report on this subject.
[link to www.kdbc.com]
The Federal Emergency Management Agency may expand use of passenger trains to evacuate the elderly and sick if hurricanes threaten the Gulf Coast.
FEMA official Glenn Cannon today testified before a congressional subcommittee in New Orleans.
Cannon says FEMA is looking at passenger trains as a method to get people with physical impediments out of harm's way.
New Orleans has become something of a guinea pig for train evacuations.
After 2005's Hurricane Katrina, Amtrak was hired to be on hand if another hurricane struck -- to evacuate people with special needs. Cannon says FEMA is now devising disaster plans for other Gulf Coast cities based on the New Orleans model.
City officials say Congress and FEMA should create a national plan to use trains in disasters.
According to this report, it appears as if New Orleans was a test model to setup train evacuations. Cannon even admits that FEMA is devising similar disaster plans based off of the New Orleans model. With city officials saying that Congress and FEMA should create a national plan to use trains to transport people in emergency situation, this should immediately draw a great deal of concern. The U.S. government and FEMA failed to help people during Hurricane Katrina, so why should we put any trust in what they are doing now with these train evacuations? Cannon says that this is only for the elderly and the sick, but can this really be believed? In fact, considering the track record of FEMA, the true purpose of this organization appears not to be a vehicle to help people during an emergency, but instead to ensure government continuity and be the administrative and executive arm of the government during a martial law scenario.
During the Iran Contra hearings in the 1980s, the existence of a plan called Readiness Exercise 84 (Rex 84) was revealed. Rex 84 outlined a plan for concentration camps which would be placed under the operational control of FEMA should martial law need to be implemented. It is a matter of public record that a number of these concentration camps do exist. In fact there are even some reports indicating that there are hundreds of these FEMA run concentration camps. Video of these concentration camps indicate that they have fences with barb wire pointing inward so people that are in the camps can’t get out. Also, many of these concentration camps are accessible via rail which will allow them to conveniently transport large amounts of people into these facilities.
Birkenau
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Yes 10 out of 10 Dictators from Lenin, Stalin, Hitler all agree Train and Rail is 100% effect in moving masses of people into those lovely lovely Relocation Camps.
FEMA CAMP BEECH GROVE INDIANA (Am-Track Repair Yard) sits smack dab on the Central railway hub for all railway traffic moving east or west coast!
[link to www.youtube.com]
[link to www.youtube.com]
You know I simply can't believe it, I can't my parents told me being from the WWII generation and Europe. They told me that the signs were every where a decade before WWII of what was coming. It was in the headlines of the daily press, it was in the media on the radio, it was in the talk and speeches the local politians would give.
But People could not simply believe what they were seeing and hearing with their own eyes and ignored it until it was too late and Soviet Tanks and German tanks rolled down the street. Then it was to late to do anything even to stop the mass deportations by the Soviets or Nazi's.
Well here it is Ladies and Gentlemen RIGHT HERE!
FEMA looks at expanded use of trains in hurricane evacuations
Associated Press - February 11, 2008 7:05 PM ET
NEW ORLEANS (AP) - The Federal Emergency Management Agency may expand use of passenger trains to evacuate the elderly and sick if hurricanes threaten the Gulf Coast. (Shady-- sick and infirmed and childern are the first to be gased useless feeders)
FEMA official Glenn Cannon today testified before a congressional subcommittee in New Orleans.
Cannon says FEMA is looking at passenger trains as a method to get people with physical impediments out of harm's way. (Shady they partically admit it!.. insane laugh)
New Orleans has become something of a guinea pig for train evacuations. (Shady -- Yep your all guinea pigs to slaughter if you get on the train)
After 2005's Hurricane Katrina, Amtrak was hired to be on hand if another hurricane struck -- to evacuate people with special needs. (Shady - Hilter classifed the retraded and mentally ill as "Special Needs" they were so special they went into the gas and ovens first!)
Cannon says FEMA is now devising disaster plans for other Gulf Coast cities based on the New Orleans model.
City officials say Congress and FEMA should create a national plan to use trains in disasters. "In a time of deceit telling the truth is revolutionary act." - George Orwell |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 373059 2/13/2008 12:53 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | And I was going to quit drinking.......NOT |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 368943 2/13/2008 1:01 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | no one go eveywhere,
this country is so big,
and goolge maps ahs tons
of mill area's that are blacked out or
won't show anything in the area,
beside if you ll smoke drink do drugs
and are working all the time ,
9 times outs 10 you won't be next to any guns or
places to run to,
even then if all you do is stay home and play games
smoke dope ,fuck , you be in no shap to run when they come,
if you sit and think about it, most people,
are a] to fat and really can't do anything,
or b] to thin and with out food won't last any length of time.
i think the worse thing is we are mostly beatten allready,
most people are on drugs made by the state,
after that hurricane it was so eazy for them to do anything
and they rounded up the poor people so eazy,
ricj people wil have guards, poor people
will die and the cops/and mill will go along with it
cause they don't want to die , just like the german
mill did in WWII , most were not nazis, but
better to live then die. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 317795 2/13/2008 1:15 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | How would Google Earth be able to show a boxcar with shackles compared to one without? Wouldn't they all look like boxcars regardless? It isn't going to have N.W.O. stenciled on the sides... |
| robin nli User ID: 272356 2/13/2008 1:19 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | i am looking into who wants to use the guillotine...trying to find names...and to see if the Patriot Act has anything to say either.
from:
[link to nwo-warning.tripod.com]
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(way down the page is this:)
GUILLOTINE PROPOSED AS MEANS OF EXECUTION IN GEORGIA
Georgia lawmaker Doug Teper (Democrat) has proposed a bill to replace the state's electric chair with the guillotine. Teper's reasoning? It would allow for death-row inmates as organ donors, he says, since the "Blade makes a clean cut and leaves vital organs intact."
(did this ever go through?) |
| robin nli User ID: 272356 2/13/2008 1:29 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | well, how about this?
did THIS go through?
from:
[link to disc.yourwebapps.com]
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HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions
SECTION 1.
1- 8 The General Assembly finds that while prisoners condemned to
1- 9 death may wish to donate one or more of their organs for
1-10 transplant, any such desire is thwarted by the fact that
1-11 electrocution makes all such organs unsuitable for
1-12 transplant. The intent of the General Assembly in enacting
1-13 this legislation is to provide for a method of execution
1-14 which is compatible with the donation of organs by a
1-15 condemned prisoner.
SECTION 2.
1-16 Article 2 of Chapter 10 of Title 17 of the Official Code of
1-17 Georgia Annotated, relating to the death penalty generally,
1-18 is amended by striking in its entirety Code Section
1-19 17-10-38, relating to death sentences generally, and
1-20 inserting in lieu thereof the following:
1-21 "17-10-38. (Index)
1-22 (a) All persons who have been convicted of a capital
1-23 offense and have had imposed upon them a sentence of death
1-24 shall, at the election of the condemned, suffer such
1-25 punishment either by electrocution or by guillotine. If
1-26 the condemned fails to make an election by the thirtieth
1-27 day preceding the date scheduled for execution, punishment
1-28 shall be by electrocution.
1-29 (b) In all cases in which the defendant is sentenced to be
1-30 electrocuted executed, it shall be the duty of the trial
1-31 judge in passing sentence to direct that the defendant be
-1- (Index)
LC 21 3643
2- 1 delivered to the Department of Corrections for
2- 2 electrocution execution at a state correctional
2- 3 institution designated by the department."
SECTION 3.
2- 4 Said article is further amended by striking in its entirety
2- 5 Code Section 17-10-44, relating to death chamber apparatus
2- 6 and related matters, and inserting in lieu thereof the
2- 7 following:
2- 8 "17-10-44. (Index)
2- 9 The Department of Corrections shall provide a death
2-10 chamber and all necessary apparatus, machinery, and
2-11 appliances for inflicting the penalty of death by
2-12 electrocution or by guillotine."
[link to web.archive.org] House of Representatives - 1995/1996 Sessions
HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions
HB 1274 - Death penalty; guillotine provisions |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 372299 2/13/2008 1:30 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | I'm not commenting on the reality of said rail cars, but this theory has been floating around for years. I believe I first read about it back around 2000 or 01.
As far as the guillotine thing goes, they are only more humane if the blade is kept sharp. During the French Revolution, they used the guillotine so much that the blade rapidly became dull and was not sharpened between uses. Many times, the execution took more than one whack to get the job done. That definitly doesnt sound fun or humane, and just imagine, if TPTB are that anxious to get rid of the large majority, do you really think they'll be kind enough to sharpen that blade? |
| robin nli User ID: 272356 2/13/2008 1:52 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | just the french?
from:
[link to eddriscoll.com]
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That's how the real Nazis handled protest: with the guillotine. (There was an electric-powered version at Dresden, incidentally.) |
| robin nli User ID: 272356 2/13/2008 1:59 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | from:
[link to standdown.typepad.com]
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StandDown Texas Project: Journalism
Wednesday, November 07, 2007
Huntsville Item Series Continues
The Huntsville Item carries news editor Robbie Byrd's third installment on the death penalty today, "There is no closure for victim's families."
‘Let’s bring back the guillotine’
Hubberth says that the most humane form of execution is not lethal injection, but rather decapitation.
“It has been said the only truly effective, instantaneous form of execution ... devised by humans is the guillotine,” Hubberth said. “If the U.S. Supreme Court finds that lethal injection is cruel and unusual, we may advocate for the return of it (but) I’m not sure.”
And Hubberth is not alone in this belief.
In a Oct. 29 interview, Dr. Jay Chapman — the man who developed the three-drug cocktail now used in almost every state that administers lethal injection — believes the guillotine made popular during the French Revolution is still the most humane, if somewhat unpleasant, way to die.
It began as a more humane way to execute offenders, regardless of class or crime. According to studies of 18th century France, many “common” criminals were subjected to beheadings by ax which sometimes required several blows to sever the head. Others were subjected to hanging, and it could take several minutes for the condemned to strangle to death, if the fall didn’t first break their neck.
But while a quick decapitation may be the most humane for the inmate, society has over the years shunned execution methods it feels are “barbaric.”
“There are some methods that are traumatic to the corpse and to the witnesses,” Hubberth said. “We thought at one time rifle fire was quicker, more humane and less traumatic to the corpse itself. Electrocution was supposed to shock them into senselessness. The gas chamber takes a long time and is a pretty gruesome sight.”
“Even scientists would argue that electrocution — although it looks horrible — causes instant depolarization of the brain, meaning you can’t feel pain,” Sharp said. “I think the only reason lethal injection became popular had nothing to do with the comfort of the inmate.
“It had all to do with the comfort of the people viewing the execution.”
So to make things easier for witnesses, both Hubberth and Sharp agree, lethal injection was implemented: not for the inmate, but for the witnesses. |
| robin nli User ID: 272356 2/13/2008 1:59 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | from:
[link to standdown.typepad.com]
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StandDown Texas Project: Journalism
Wednesday, November 07, 2007
Huntsville Item Series Continues
The Huntsville Item carries news editor Robbie Byrd's third installment on the death penalty today, "There is no closure for victim's families."
‘Let’s bring back the guillotine’
Hubberth says that the most humane form of execution is not lethal injection, but rather decapitation.
“It has been said the only truly effective, instantaneous form of execution ... devised by humans is the guillotine,” Hubberth said. “If the U.S. Supreme Court finds that lethal injection is cruel and unusual, we may advocate for the return of it (but) I’m not sure.”
And Hubberth is not alone in this belief.
In a Oct. 29 interview, Dr. Jay Chapman — the man who developed the three-drug cocktail now used in almost every state that administers lethal injection — believes the guillotine made popular during the French Revolution is still the most humane, if somewhat unpleasant, way to die.
It began as a more humane way to execute offenders, regardless of class or crime. According to studies of 18th century France, many “common” criminals were subjected to beheadings by ax which sometimes required several blows to sever the head. Others were subjected to hanging, and it could take several minutes for the condemned to strangle to death, if the fall didn’t first break their neck.
But while a quick decapitation may be the most humane for the inmate, society has over the years shunned execution methods it feels are “barbaric.”
“There are some methods that are traumatic to the corpse and to the witnesses,” Hubberth said. “We thought at one time rifle fire was quicker, more humane and less traumatic to the corpse itself. Electrocution was supposed to shock them into senselessness. The gas chamber takes a long time and is a pretty gruesome sight.”
“Even scientists would argue that electrocution — although it looks horrible — causes instant depolarization of the brain, meaning you can’t feel pain,” Sharp said. “I think the only reason lethal injection became popular had nothing to do with the comfort of the inmate.
“It had all to do with the comfort of the people viewing the execution.”
So to make things easier for witnesses, both Hubberth and Sharp agree, lethal injection was implemented: not for the inmate, but for the witnesses. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 272356 2/13/2008 2:13 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | the Noahide Laws!
the world is subjected to these Noahide Laws???
from:
[link to www.sqlspace.com]
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The 7 Noahide Laws
These laws originate from the Talmud
Throughout the ages, scholars have viewed the Noahide Laws as a link between Judaism and Christianity, as universal norms of ethical conduct, as a basic concept of international law, or as a guarantee of fundamental human rights for all." This explanation leaves one to believe that both Jews and Gentiles are bound by these seven laws; however, Don Bell reports from Jewish sources that the Jew who lives according to the Torah is exempt from these seven laws. In other words, these seven Noahide Laws were meant for the Gentiles only!! They are meant to be a substitute for the Ten Commandments. At this point, we need to briefly list these seven Noahide Laws.
1: Thou shalt not engage in idol worship.
2: Thou shalt not blaspheme God.
3: Thou shalt not shed innocent blood of a human nor fetus nor ailing person who has a limited time to live.
4: Thou shalt not engage in bestial, incestuous, adulterous, or homosexual relations nor commit...rape.
5: Thou shalt not steal.
6: Thou shalt establish laws and courts of law to administer these laws, including the death penalty for those who kill, administered only if there is one testifying eyewitness (Note: The Jewish Law, found in Deuteronomy 17:6, requires the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses before one can be executed. In fact, the last sentence of verse 6 specifically states, "...he shall not be put to death on the evidence of one witness". This should be our first clue that these seven Noahide Laws are nothing more than a clever counterfeit of God's Ten Commandments).
7: Thou shalt not be cruel to animals.
Get ready people.....here it is;
The penalty for violating any of these Noahide Laws is spelled out on page 1192 of the Encyclopedia Judaica, "... violation of any one of the seven laws subjects the Noahide to capital punishment by decapitation." Wow, in other words, if one person steps forward to accuse a Gentile of violating any one of these seven laws, that testimony alone would be enough to decapitate the accused.
I have also found from a few sources that another law exists that is included in these 7 Noahide laws but in 'small print' so to speak, and is classed as Law number 2: "Thou shalt not blaspheme God"...and guess what that means!!!!!!...Anyone who believes in Christ as their saviour(Christians) are said to be in violation of the Noahide laws and are hence worshipping blaspheming God and therefore we are to be BEHEADED!!EXACTLY as the scripture says!
Considering anti-christ is going to be Jewish, it makes sense then that the victims of decapitation will be the Christians even more, as we are hated with great passion by the Ultra Orthadox Jews.
But get this, even more crucial and shocking info has come to light;
The world is being secretly and subtly subjugated by these 7 Noahide Laws!;
Let us examine further Public Law 102-14, which set the Noahide Laws as the basis for International Law, (United Nations Intl Law which they want in time pushed onto all nations) to which all American law must conform. This public law singles out one Jewish group for special honor, saying that they embody the principles of these Noahide Laws. This group is the ultra-orthodox Lubavitch Movement, known for its strict adherence to the smallest detail of the Talmud. This group believes their head Rabbi, Menachem Scheerson, is the prophesied Messiah, and are anxiously waiting for him to publicly proclaim his office.
The Jewish Pharisees succeeded in killing Jesus Christ on the basis that He blasphemed God, which is Noahide Law number 2.
Public Law 102-14 sets the foundation for American and United Nations Law to be established in such a way as to uphold these Seven Noahide Laws. These seven laws are a counterfeit of the Ten Commandments, and are promoted by the Neo-Pharisee occult group, the Lubavitchers. |
| robin nli User ID: 272356 2/13/2008 2:18 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | has anyone studied if these concentration camps are located on key ley lines?
there are whole lists of these places and it would be interesting to see if they match up. |
| robin nli User ID: 272356 2/13/2008 2:22 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | well, just from doing a little research, i feel these trains and camps DO exist.there are photographs, eyewitness accounts, the rumor wont die.
it doesnt matter to me that the rumors have been around since the mid 70's.not at all.
time means more to us than to TPTB.
time is going by SO FAST!
or is just ME? |
| robin nli User ID: 272356 2/13/2008 2:24 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | one more thing...doesnt the bible speak of beheadings in the "end times"?
that is for someone ELSE to answer. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 357912 2/13/2008 2:56 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | I can't see how it is humane to have every nerve in your body severed in an instant. When you cut a nerve it HURTS!
Those last 10 seconds of consciousness after being beheaded have to be the most excruciating pain possible. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 372945 2/13/2008 3:07 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | scary and possible and the souls of those who perform these acts will pay so very dearly.
-however
wouldnt it be MUCH quicker and more effcient to make the cars airtight and gas them all at once-otherwise you have kids selling peanuts and cold drinks up and down the line of folks waiting for their chance to be-headed.
it would take 5 mins to gas a car of 100-200 people whereas much more time to drag constantly struggling religious and patriotic (read "terrorists","undesireable") people to their fate?
Plus the gawd awful mess to clean up;
Anyone think of a good reason for using them?
which makes me wonder just a bit about this story
quick, easy, and no mess would be the order of the day-especailly with Bush cutting the budget on everything
FEMA offical: They just cut our fiscal 2009 budget from 100 million to 75 millio-looks like waage cut for the Guilotines- or else we start useing machine guns
If they do exist, my bet is the PACNWGuy would relish the chance to be one of the operators
MURDER is MURDER-
When word of this gets out-and lets face it-every secret atrocity has been leaked to the media-there would be hell to pay. How many would desert their post in disgust or even sabotage? How many would decide they had nothing to lose and leave thier houses by the thousand to fight-since they wont wait until they are called to be in the next group
The figures are pretty high of GIs in the middle east deserting pr blowing their brains out.
Dont know if its happening now, but soldiers who were tired of killing, of the war and of tyrant officers would toss live hand grenades into the tents of these Superiors.
This reached epidemic proportions-though oddly enought the media didnt ever report it as happening at all-not even as once or twice during the whole war. Returning GIs told of it.
lets face it- if they want to reduce the population from
305 million to 25 million (US) and the world 6.6 Billion to 500 million-if youre not mid-high military-mid-high political, mid to high industrial, or mid to high in some usefull skill-then YOURE on the pick-up list.
So if your cities block is pop: 100 people-only 13 would be chosen to live.
thats alot of very bad karma.
Fascism worked great in the 1940's
But the paradigm is different today |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1978 2/13/2008 3:12 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | vented tunnels for gassing, shackles obvious, organs preserved using methods mentioned .
can only create so many drug addicts, at some point their organs are almost usless. population processing . look for the coin .
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 372945 2/13/2008 3:12 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote |
I can't see how it is humane to have every nerve in your body severed in an instant. When you cut a nerve it HURTS!
Those last 10 seconds of consciousness after being beheaded have to be the most excruciating pain possible. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 357912
TEN seconds?! theyre not using Skill saws-for one of those babies to work it has to gain momentum thus 1-2 seconds-and then youd be in shock on top of that. |
| Nada Khazar User ID: 224132 2/13/2008 3:23 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote |
This story is a hoax and has been going around for years.
Why do you still bother posting here? You are the biggest joke on this whole website. Nobody even bothers to consider anything you have to say anymore, if they ever did! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 349426
I cannot guess one way or another.But if this thread demonstates one thing, it is the sad lack of critical thinking skills here at GLP.
"A senator"? WHICH senator? That is called critical thinking.
IF this article is true, it is by coincidence.It is compised of one critical thinking red flag followed by another.
Even if true, this article is lame in the extreme. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 237494 2/13/2008 3:41 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote |
OP this is incomprehensible. . . . it really is!! This is not a joke is it??? If it is, it's not funny. If it isn't . . . what have we come to?
Thank you for posting this. . . I think.
Nope not a joke. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 359317
Dont worry AC359317... This is |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 237494 2/13/2008 3:46 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | Boxcar est. 50'long x 102,000 = 5,100,000 / 5280' = 965 miles of boxcars....
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| Nada Khazar User ID: 224132 2/13/2008 3:49 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote |
Boxcar est. 50'long x 102,000 = 5,100,000 / 5280' = 965 miles of boxcars....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 237494
I don't think that proves anything.I think the premise of the article is possible.But the article itself is purely lame, and proves nothing one way or the other. |
| th€bbo User ID: 300774 2/14/2008 12:58 AM
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 We the people of the Planet Earth, in order to form a more perfect union,
establish love, insure global harmony, provide for the divine knowledge,
promote the I AM connectivity, and secure the blessings of manifestations
to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish
this Constitution for the Planet Earth.
-
The Definition of Our Future:
Responsible freedom of self determination, becoming truly self-confident and free, to
unconditionally be responsible for oneself, without being coerced to accept some higher
authority.
--
The Number One Enemy of Progress is Question. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 272356 2/14/2008 8:41 PM | | debster User ID: 272356 2/14/2008 8:46 PM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | there got it that time. Here's where the box cars go
[link to www.apfn.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 375134 2/24/2008 2:53 AM | | Re: FEMA ORDERED 102,000 Boxcars w. Shackles! | Quote | Rule by fear or rule by law?
Lewis Seiler,Dan Hamburg
Monday, February 4, 2008
"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist."
- Winston Churchill, Nov. 21, 1943
Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."
Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. <b>The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees.
According to diplomat and author Peter Dale Scott, the KBR contract is part of a Homeland Security plan titled ENDGAME, which sets as its goal the removal of "all removable aliens" and "potential terrorists."
Fraud-busters such as Rep. Henry Waxman, D-Los Angeles, have complained about these contracts, saying that more taxpayer dollars should not go to taxpayer-gouging Halliburton. But the real question is: What kind of "new programs" require the construction and refurbishment of detention facilities in nearly every state of the union with the capacity to house perhaps millions of people?
Sect. 1042 of the 2007 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), "Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies," gives the executive the power to invoke martial law. For the first time in more than a century, the president is now authorized to use the military in response to "a natural disaster, a disease outbreak, a terrorist attack or any other condition in which the President determines that domestic violence has occurred to the extent that state officials cannot maintain public order."
The Military Commissions Act of 2006, rammed through Congress just before the 2006 midterm elections, allows for the indefinite imprisonment of anyone who donates money to a charity that turns up on a list of "terrorist" organizations, or who speaks out against the government's policies. The law calls for secret trials for citizens and noncitizens alike.
Also in 2007, the White House quietly issued National Security Presidential Directive 51 (NSPD-51), to ensure "continuity of government" in the event of what the document vaguely calls a "catastrophic emergency." Should the president determine that such an emergency has occurred, he and he alone is empowered to do whatever he deems necessary to ensure "continuity of government." This could include everything from canceling elections to suspending the Constitution to launching a nuclear attack. Congress has yet to hold a single hearing on NSPD-51.
U.S. Rep. Jane Harman, D-Venice (Los Angeles County) has come up with a new way to expand the domestic "war on terror." Her Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 (HR1955), which passed the House by the lopsided vote of 404-6, would set up a commission to "examine and report upon the facts and causes" of so-called violent radicalism and extremist ideology, then make legislative recommendations on combatting it.
According to commentary in the Baltimore Sun, Rep. Harman and her colleagues from both sides of the aisle believe the country faces a native brand of terrorism, and needs a commission with sweeping investigative power to combat it.
A clue as to where Harman's commission might be aiming is the Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act, a law that labels those who "engage in sit-ins, civil disobedience, trespass, or any other crime in the name of animal rights" as terrorists. Other groups in the crosshairs could be anti-abortion protesters, anti-tax agitators, immigration activists, environmentalists, peace demonstrators, Second Amendment rights supporters ... the list goes on and on. According to author Naomi Wolf, the National Counterterrorism Center holds the names of roughly 775,000 "terror suspects" with the number increasing by 20,000 per month.
What could the government be contemplating that leads it to make contingency plans to detain without recourse millions of its own citizens?
The Constitution does not allow the executive to have unchecked power under any circumstances. The people must not allow the president to use the war on terrorism to rule by fear instead of by law.
Lewis Seiler is the president of Voice of the Environment, Inc. Dan Hamburg, a former congressman, is executive director.
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