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BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED
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nine Woos Woo-ing
User ID: 367468
2/6/2008 12:09 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
once is happenstance
twice is coincidence
three times is enemy action
four times is apathy
five times is ignorance
six times is denial
seven times is DOOM |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 335123
2/6/2008 12:11 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Seems like the cables just wore out at the same time. OR they were hit by solar flares and melted. The comet could also have something to do with it.
It would be impossible to cut those cables. One would have to dig down about 4 feet in the sea bead floor and dig them out. Finding the cables is hard too. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368749
2/6/2008 12:14 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Seems like the cables just wore out at the same time. OR they were hit by solar flares and melted. The comet could also have something to do with it.
It would be impossible to cut those cables. One would have to dig down about 4 feet in the sea bead floor and dig them out. Finding the cables is hard too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 335123
Shhhh...you'll upset the shills with common-sense analysis like that. |
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Beezle
User ID: 368757
2/6/2008 12:14 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Actually they just sit on the sea floor.
But the thing is, several of these supposed 8 or 9 cable breaks really do seem to be refering to the same events. Some over-enthusiastic person is counting them up wrong.
And, bear in mind, 50 cables needed repair last year, in the Atlantic alone. These things break a lot. |
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Earth420
User ID: 368733
2/6/2008 12:15 AM
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[link to www.youtube.com]
"while pensive poets painful vigils keep" |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 367497
2/6/2008 12:22 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
uh oh will we lose our internet too? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368519
if this goes hot, you can BET on it. you'll get your info from the MSM. period. any internet will lead you to a .gov site with warnings and advice, telling you where to report. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 339098
2/6/2008 12:25 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
nemo. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368760
2/6/2008 12:29 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Expanding Earth
you're joking....right? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 361347
No joke, sober facts, man.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
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TruthSeeker7
User ID: 368318
2/6/2008 12:32 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Actually they just sit on the sea floor.
But the thing is, several of these supposed 8 or 9 cable breaks really do seem to be refering to the same events. Some over-enthusiastic person is counting them up wrong.
And, bear in mind, 50 cables needed repair last year, in the Atlantic alone. These things break a lot. Quoting: Beezle 368757
Which ones?
I confirmed eight separate cables through various sites. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368743
2/6/2008 12:35 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
The cable cuts if related to planet x induced earth changes; were totally unforeseen an unexpected. I would have thought they would have left enough slack in the line to handle anything. I never knew they buried them if that is indeed true.
Could still be USA or Israel cutting them for some ulterior motive.
Possibly an indirect way to help shut down the net due to impending visibility of planet x and all the Internet scuttle it would entail.
Fix it all you want. It will just be cut in other places if that is the goal and the intention. |
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Free Store
User ID: 144456
2/6/2008 12:35 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Glad someone's keeping track |
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TruthSeeker7
User ID: 368318
2/6/2008 12:36 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Wow, what an amazing piece. Mozart rocks.
Thanks. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 305078
2/6/2008 12:46 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
The Flag cables are relatively new..laid in 2005. I can't believe they would wear out so fast.
I see permits are needed to enter Iranian waters. I just get a DOOM feeling about these "repair ships". If this is a covert ambush or smoke and mirrors maneuver all out war would be immediate. |
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stupid
User ID: 360861
2/6/2008 12:46 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
nobody says the cutting will stop at nine...
it seems the cuts have only disrupted the internet
...and not totally cut it off.... dare i say yet.
so i'd expect that the job is still not done... whay ever the job may be.
so after all the internet connections are cut and if they are repaired... how long before they are cut again..??
also whom will be paying the cost of repair??
seems to me that activities in international waters of this nature would result in some huge expenses for a certain undersea cable company... hope you don't hold stock in such a venture... it's certain to be a huge loss for them and or their insurance company and I'd say they will be spending a nice fat check on expensive cables and repairs... care to make a donation??
almost forgot to add.... that 'prevention of such cutting activity would be nearly impossible (now or in the future) and any and all sides can play the game of global communication distruction' and to answer to whom 'would be benefiting from such an activity', I'd have to wait till this plays out because both sides of this or any conflict could develope this into a trump card or two and or the opposite.... depending on those conspiracy plans under construction and who is 'cut off from the whole', the point of view of the winner would be hard to tell from here since no worthy events have yet to go down.
Of course if your cut off from your illegal nyse or ftse trading habits and have no access to your online banking for a few days... the coming market swing could make your portfolio worthless, of course all this matters not if a bomb vaporizes the city you live in....
any bets on what cables are to be 'skuttled' tomorrow, maybe we can get some images from a webcam close by of the action.
Nine??!! Nine??!! That is almost embarrassing. Someone is really mad. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368640 |
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nurbloc
User ID: 368766
2/6/2008 12:54 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
It would stand to reason finding out who laid the cable may help answer some questions about who really had the ability and knowledge to locate,cut the cable (and have the means to do so) and stealth away. Seems like there would have to be several crews, have some radio contact and and the benefit should surely out weigh the costs. What do you guys think?
And no, I dont have spell check so get over it. |
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TruthSeeker7
User ID: 368318
2/6/2008 12:55 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
"After the Persian Gulf cut, a FLAG official in India, speaking on condition of anonymity because of company policy, said workers were still trying to determine how the cable was cut. He declined to comment on whether the two cuts were somehow linked but said he did not believe FLAG's cables were deliberately targeted."
[link to www.chron.com]
"A posting by San Antonio-based Dr Richard Sauder said, “I will say upfront that I am well and thoroughly sceptical of the ‘ship anchor’ explanation that has been so prominently advanced in the mainstream news media. Yes, ships do sometimes drag their anchors and dragging anchors can cause damage, true enough. But to have three undersea cables — or is it actually four cables? — cut in the same region in just a two-day span, strains credulity; the more so, when we look at how the damage has played out across the region."
[link to www.thehindubusinessline.com]
"On the assumption that the cables cut were no accident, we must ask ourselves who would do such a thing and why. Clearly Iran, who were most affected, would gain nothing from such an action and are perhaps the target of those responsible?
But why would anyone want to disrupt communications in Iran (and other countries)? Could this be some subtle message to Iran, an example of how their communications can be affected by outside forces? Maybe this is a prelude to an attack, or perhaps a test run for a future one?
Communication has always been an important factor in military action, and cutting these cables might affect Iran´s ability to defend itself. But even if that were not the case, it would certainly make it difficult for them to report any events to the outside world. So, if they were attacked, we would have to rely on news reports from the usual sources (the Mainstream Media), and we all know where their loyalties lie.
Oddly enough, Russia also experienced some "internet problems" during this same period, but that may be another coincidence?"
[link to www.americanchronicle.com] |
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TruthSeeker7
User ID: 368318
2/6/2008 1:00 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
"Even though sources attributed the disruption on Sunday night to power outage and not a ship’s anchor that affected the earlier two Mediterranean cables (FLAG Telecom’s FLAG Europe-Asia cable and SeaMeWe-4), thousands of bloggers across the world are attributing this to a possible sabotage in the Mediterranean Sea in a bid to isolate Iran.
Cutting these cables might affect Iran’s ability to defend itself since communication is of vital importance during military action, they allege.
The fourth submarine cable was damaged between Haloul (Qatar) and Das (the UAE). Egypt’s ministry of maritime transportation, after reviewing the satellite pictures, said there were no ships (which led to the speculation and allegations) near the cable channel 12 hours before or after the damage near Alexandria, Egypt.
“...to have three undersea cables – or is it actually four cables? – cut in the same region in just a two-day span, strains credulity; the more so, when we look at how the damage has played out across the region... communication cable cutting in West Asia leaves Israel and Iraq still connected, while completely shutting down the Iranian internet. Funny how that works, isn’t it?” asks a professor on his site.
“Seriously, is there anyone who doesn’t think this is either a precursor to military action, or a direct attack on Iran’s about-to-launch Euro-based oil market?” asks another blogger.
“Iran is back online, but... its traffic is now passing through the UK and the US, the latter controlling the 13 primary routers. Can you say wiretap?” queries another.
Others recall spy stories of the US Navy sending out special operations teams to go out on submarines and deploy undersea operations, on the seabed itself, specifically for cutting or tapping communication cables with special airlocks and very sophisticated equipment – much of it thoroughly documented in Blind Man’s Bluff: The Untold Story of American Submarine Espionage by Sherry Sontag and Christopher Drew."
[link to www.business-standard.com] |
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TruthSeeker7
User ID: 368318
2/6/2008 1:06 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
The Flag cables are relatively new..laid in 2005. I can't believe they would wear out so fast.
I see permits are needed to enter Iranian waters. I just get a DOOM feeling about these "repair ships". If this is a covert ambush or smoke and mirrors maneuver all out war would be immediate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 305078
Interesting thought.
Here are pics of some of these cable-laying ships:
[link to www.iscpc.org]
They could easily get blown up by the U.S. or Israel and then the Iranians could be blamed for attacking the cable ship(s) without provocation. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368773
2/6/2008 1:07 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
mmmm, a lot of ingnorant posts here. "expanding earth" sigh..
Anway, the cuts will have its effect on the world economy pretty fast, so expect some follow up on this fast.
It's way beyond my understanding. The cable cutters act like spoiled children. I hope they get spanked.
Grow up, learn to share and to communicate. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368775
2/6/2008 1:09 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Al Qaeda deep sea divers!
They hide in underwater caves!
What about giant squids Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368105
Not unless the cables suddenly smell like blue whale. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368770
2/6/2008 1:09 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
For those who didn’t catch this new Dubai cable cut ZetaTalk, written just this morning, now on the web at:
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
MAP and FAULT LINE etc here:
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
SOZT
Once again an undersea internet cable is torn near where it makes landfall. This incident is in Dubia, on the other side of the Arabian Plate from Alexandria. What is similar in both these incidents? Both are offshore from landfall sites, where the cable rises out of the seabed to connect at a spot where it is FIXED. Such a spot creates tension if the cable is being stretched, causing the cable to rise up out of the seabed and reducing slack. This causes the tense cable to be vulnerable to ships anchors. The Flag Falcon was a NEW cable, laid since early 2005 and thus plowed into the seabed properly and recently to avoid ships anchors in shallow water. If the breach offshore from Alexandria was due to the stretch zone in the Mediterranean caused by the African continent rolling eastward and dropping into the Indian Ocean, what caused this stretch offshore from Dubai?
After leaving Alexandria, the cables cross the Suez Canal to land on the east of the canal, thence down the Red Sea to where it empties into the Indian Ocean, thence along the bottom of the “boot” of the Arabian peninsula and up around the “toe” formed by Oman to landfall in Dubai. As we have stated, the Arabian plate will ROTATE as this region of the world is pulled apart. As though the “boot” were walking, it will move from where the “heel” appears to be landing to where the “boot” is rolling to be positioned on its “toe”. Where this does not put tension along a cable laid around the edges of the “boot”, it puts tension on the cable from another end – the landfall in India and Pakistan. The “heel” of the boot has been pulled away from India and Pakistan. Overall, the stretch zones around the Arabian Plate are pulling open, thus there is less slack on any cables laid there.
EOZT |
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SAME OLD SAME OLD
User ID: 368776
2/6/2008 1:10 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
IT'S ALL A BIG GAME;IT'S ANOTHER 911; IT'S A PRE-MEDITATED PLAN BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION, THE CRIMINALS. WE CAN'T TRUST THEM AS FAR AS WE CAN SPIT. THEY ARE DOING IT; THEN THEY BLAME IT ON RUSSIA OR WHOM EVER; THEN WE DECLARE WAR;THEN MARSHALL LAW; JUST ANOTHER SICK PLOT TO STAY IN CONTROLL. SAME OLD METHOD. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368770
2/6/2008 1:11 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
For those who didn’t catch this new ZetaTalk, now on the web at
[ link to www.zetatalk.com]
SOZT
We have spoken since the early days of ZetaTalk about the stretch zones of the world, where plates are pulling apart. The Red Sea is one of these zones, as is the African Rift, pulling apart as Africa rolls into the Indian Ocean. The Suez Canal is thus pulled EASTWARD, creating tension on any cables laid under the Mediterranean from France or Italy into Egypt. These cables are laid with slack, and pressed into the seabed where expected to be anywhere near where ships anchor. For a single cable to be damaged potentially by a ship anchor might fly as an excuse, but two cables, simultaneously? The point of fault can be estimated by the cable operators by a type of ping to the point of injury. Both the damaged cables reached shore at Alexandria, with the injury estimated to have occurred 5.2 miles off the coast from Alexandria.
What kind of tension were these cables under at this point? One end was secured at the point of landfall. Where the cable under the Mediterranean was free, it had drag, particularly as it approached shore as it would be buried in the seabed at this point, to avoid injury by ships anchors. A cable under tension in this manner would rise UP, and be a perfect target for an anchor. The ships whose anchors tore the cables were not illegally anchored at the distance from shore where the injury occurred. Instead the cable was UNEXPECTEDLY above the floor of the seabed at that point, and vulnerable to being hooked by anchors.
Will more such catastrophes occur in stretch zones? Broken communications are the least of mankind’s worry there. Chasms will open up. Roads will tear and bridges will drop. Buildings will find their infrastructure shifting beneath them, and will either drop into their foundations or slip sideways into a lean. Gas and water mains will continue to shatter, with fires and explosions caused by gas leaks running rampant through neighborhoods or business districts. The stretch has only begun, and will accelerate as the plates begin to move more aggressively.
EOZT
MAP of where cables are in that region at
[ link to www.zetatalk.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368770
2/6/2008 1:15 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
hey-hey, i just learned a new trick, how to get a blue background quote from another thread into a different thread
this will really piss of Dr. Postalspam |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368757
2/6/2008 1:21 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
I see permits are needed to enter Iranian waters. I just get a DOOM feeling about these "repair ships". If this is a covert ambush or smoke and mirrors maneuver all out war would be immediate. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 305078
They aren't in Iranian waters. |
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TruthSeeker7
User ID: 368318
2/6/2008 1:24 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Can we get maps corresponding to all of these to see if we note any patterns?
Here's one map:
[link to mathaba.net] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368766
2/6/2008 1:29 AM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368770
2/6/2008 1:30 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
here is a link to maps showing some of the cables
[link to www.zetatalk.com] |
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TruthSeeker7
User ID: 368318
2/6/2008 1:31 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
I see permits are needed to enter Iranian waters. I just get a DOOM feeling about these "repair ships". If this is a covert ambush or smoke and mirrors maneuver all out war would be immediate.
They aren't in Iranian waters. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368757
Bandar Abbas is in Iran
An employee of FLAG reports in an e-mail (on the previous forum page) that...
FALCON Segment 7b (Bandra Abbas - Al Seeb) - E-Marine continues to await the permit to enter the Iranian waters and current forecast for the ship to start a work is around 19th February.
FALCON Segment 7a - Fault 1st February between BND (Bandar Abbas, Iran) and KWI (Kuwait), we are waiting for ship to go out and it maybe fixed before going out the fault on 7b - to be confirmed.
Look at the map: [link to worldatlas.com] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368345
2/6/2008 1:33 AM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
i believe the Filipino Monkey did this. |
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