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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 272356
2/6/2008 4:47 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
PHONE COMPANY FINDS SHARKS CUTTING IN
New York Times
Wednesday, February 6, 2008
LEAD: Sharks have shown an inexplicable taste for the new fiber-optic cables that are being strung along the ocean floor linking the United States, Europe and Japan, telephone company officials say.
Sharks have shown an inexplicable taste for the new fiber-optic cables that are being strung along the ocean floor linking the United States, Europe and Japan, telephone company officials say.
In the Atlantic alone, shark bites have caused the failure of four segments of cable, which is the main artery for global voice and computer communications. And British telephone officials monitoring the installation of the fiber-optic network that will link the United States to Japan and Guam are also reporting troubles with gnawing sharks.
The attacks have caused some delays in laying cable, and a single bite on a deep-sea line, which is about the size of a garden hose, can cost $250,000 or more to fix. There is a benefit, however. In studying ways to limit damage from the attacks, the telephone companies are providing marine scientists with valuable new data on sharks and specimens of previously unknown species.
The first evidence of sharks' attraction to the cables was the discovery of shark teeth embedded in an experimental line off the Canary Islands in 1985. A shark usually loses teeth when it bites something, and it later grows new ones.
''We were surprised,'' said James M. Barrett, deputy director of international engineering for the American Telephone and Telegraph Company. ''We had laid 55,000 or 60,000 miles of undersea cable all over the world with no problem. There had not been a single case of a shark biting one of the old cables,'' which were made of copper.
He added, ''We took the teeth to a shark dentist and asked him to identify them.'' Even now, he said, experts disagree on which type of shark was responsible for the attack.
After further instances of having cables damaged by shark bites, A.T.&T. officials now say they are confident that by wrapping the cable in double layers of steel tape they can prevent future damage. But the cause of the ''Jaws syndrome,'' as one telephone company spokesman called it, remains a mystery.
The fiber-optic cables look essentially the same as copper cables, except that the newer cables are less than an inch in diameter - mere dental floss to a big shark - while the older ones are as thick as an arm. Both also have armored jackets and contain copper wires that carry electrical power to amplifying stations along the way.
Inside each of the new cables, however, are six hairlike strands of glass that can carry as many as 40,000 separate conversations traveling as staccato pulses of laser light. In contrast, the first trans-Atlantic telephone cable, a fat copper line laid between Newfoundland and Scotland in 1956, could carry only 36 conversations. Even the newest copper cable, laid in 1983, has a maximum capacity of only 9,000 calls.
Construction of the trans-Atlantic fiber-optic network is scheduled to be completed in 1988. But the attacks on functioning segments of test lines in the Canary Islands are worrisome to A.T.&T. and its several dozen foreign partners in the $1 billion projects.
Besides the potential to disrupt communications, the bites require repairs that often take a week or more, depending on depth and the weather, and cost $250,000 and up. The repairs are also technologically complex and inherently risky. Intensive Marine Research
Compared with the other hazards of the deep -fishing lines, anchors and propellers, volcanoes, earthquakes and jagged ridges - sharks would seem to be a minor threat to the cables. But the sharks' unpredictability and their sudden, unexplained interest in the fiber-optic lines prompted A.T.&T. to support an intensive study program involving dozens of people at several leading marine research centers.
In addition to tests at sea, experiments were performed by scientists at the Bell Laboratories in New Jersey and at marine labs in Connecticut, Florida and the Bahamas, Mr. Barrett said.
Testing a theory that sharks feed at depths as great as 3,000 meters (nearly two miles), the researchers fished for them using long lines, rather than nets, which are easily avoided by big fish. They discovered, Mr. Barrett said, that sharks rarely feed below 1,500 meters.
''Hundreds of sharks have been caught,'' said Mr. Barrett of A.T.&T. On one expedition, he said, ''about a dozen shark experts were out on the boat.'' He went on, ''They got this one big shark on deck and tried to force-feed him samples of cable to see how he'd react. He was not happy about having someone try to shove it down his mouth.'' A Donation of 350 Sharks
A.T.&T. recently donated more than 350 specimens of shark, preserved, to the American Museum of Natural History in New York. The gift ''was certainly one of the largest collections of large fish ever received here,'' said Dr. Gary Nelson, chairman of the museum's department of ichthyology.
Besides sharks, he said, there are skates, rays and fish that were previously unknown. ''There are some species that are new to science, that have not been seen before,'' Dr. Nelson said, adding that many of the specimens have not yet been unpacked.
''These are treasurable things,'' he said. ''A.T.&T. delivered all this to our door. They did it in the interest of science, and it was very helpful and responsible. They could have just thrown them back overboard.'' Mr. Barrett said he believes a combination of factors may be responsible for the attacks, all of which have occurred about a mile deep on cable that was laid ''bar tight,'' suspended without slack. It is possible, he said, that vibrations of the taut cable occur at a frequency that sharks identify with food. Electrical Current Suspected
Also, some researchers believe there may be something unusual about the electrical current in the fiber-optic lines that attracts sharks and that may trigger an automatic feeding reflex.
The finding that sharks are supersensitive to electrical signals, able to detect electric fields as faint as a few millionths of a volt per centimeter in water, is a recent significant discovery in marine science, Dr. Nelson said.
The sharks may detect a faint field near the cable and attack. ''Not knowing any better, they try to eat it,'' Dr. Nelson said. ''It's programmed in their genes. Whether the field comes from a cable or from a tin can, sharks are prone to behave as if they were encountering a food item, and try to eat it up.''
Mr. Barrett said the fiber-optic cables would be armored to depths of 2,500 meters to protect against shark bites, and buried in trenches closer to shore to guard against fishing boat anchors.
''We learn something new on every cable system we lay on the ocean floor,'' Mr. Barrett said. ''This time it happens to be sharks. It's a very challenging environment.'' Quoting: wing-ed
yea ok.. and i have a bridge to sell ya. |
| ~GAIA~ 
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2/6/2008 4:48 PM
 | | Anonymous Coward
User ID: 369016
2/6/2008 4:48 PM | | ~GAIA~
I HATE mornings ...
User ID: 368523
2/6/2008 4:49 PM
| | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
1...2...3... ok... 4 ... maybe... but NINE?!
WTF is happening and who the hell is doing that?! Quoting: Whee! 8D
:jackbauer:
'..what can grow without rain..
..what can burn for years without burn...
..stone can grow without rain...
..and only love can burn for years without end...'
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 369135
2/6/2008 4:50 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
''yea ok.. and i have a bridge to sell ya.''
 |
| Blimped
User ID: 360104
2/6/2008 4:55 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Well if WE are saying "Sharks", what do ya think THEY are going to say?...
...but I guess we will find out. |
| TruthSeeker7
User ID: 369016
2/6/2008 4:55 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
PHONE COMPANY FINDS SHARKS CUTTING IN
New York Times
Wednesday, February 6, 2008
LEAD: Sharks have shown an inexplicable taste for the new fiber-optic cables that are being strung along the ocean floor linking the United States, Europe and Japan, telephone company officials say.
Sharks have shown an inexplicable taste for the new fiber-optic cables that are being strung along the ocean floor linking the United States, Europe and Japan, telephone company officials say.
yea ok.. and i have a bridge to sell ya. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272356
No, seriously. Check it out:
[link to technology.newscientist.com]
Stealth sharks to patrol the high seas
New Scientist Print Edition
* 01 March 2006
* Susan Brown
IMAGINE getting inside the mind of a shark: swimming silently through the ocean, sensing faint electrical fields, homing in on the trace of a scent, and navigating through the featureless depths for hour after hour.
We may soon be able to do just that via electrical probes in the shark's brain. Engineers funded by the US military have created a neural implant designed to enable a shark's brain signals to be manipulated remotely, controlling the animal's movements, and perhaps even decoding what it is feeling.
That team is among a number of groups around the world that have gained ethical approval to develop implants that can monitor and influence the behaviour of animals, from sharks and tuna to rats and monkeys. These researchers hope such implants will improve our understanding of how the animals interact with their environment, as well as boosting research into tackling human paralysis.
More controversially, the Pentagon hopes to exploit sharks' natural ability to glide quietly through the water, sense delicate electrical gradients and follow chemical trails. By remotely guiding the sharks' movements, they hope to transform the animals into stealth spies, perhaps capable of following vessels without being spotted. The project, funded by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), based in Arlington, Virginia, was presented at the Ocean Sciences Meeting in Honolulu, Hawaii, last week.
Neural implants consist of a series of electrodes that are embedded into the animal's brain, which can then be used to stimulate various functional areas. Biologist Jelle Atema of Boston University and his students are using them to "steer" spiny dogfish in a tank via a phantom odour. As the dogfish swims about, the researchers beam a radio signal from a laptop to an antenna attached to the fish at one end and sticking up out of the water at the other. The electrodes then stimulate either the right or left of the olfactory centre, the area of the brain dedicated to smell. The fish flicks round to the corresponding side in response to the signal, as if it has caught a whiff of an interesting smell: the stronger the signal, the more sharply it turns.
The team is not the first to attempt to control animals in this way. John Chapin of the State University of New York Health Science Center in Brooklyn has used a similar tactic to guide rats through rubble piles (New Scientist, 25 September 2004, p 21). Chapin's implant stimulates a part of the brain that is wired to their whiskers, so the rats instinctively turn toward the tickled side to see what has brushed by. Chapin rewards that response by stimulating a pleasure centre in the rats' brains. Using this reward process, he has trained the rodents to pause for 10 seconds when they smell a target chemical such as RDX, a component of plastic explosives.
The New York Police Department is considering recruiting Chapin's rats to its disaster response team, where they could be used to detect bombs or even trapped people, and Chapin met them to discuss the possibility last month.
However, Chapin's "mind patch" only works in one direction: he can stimulate movement or reward an action, but he cannot directly measure what the rat smells, which is why he has to train them to reveal what they are sensing. DARPA's shark researchers, in contrast, want to use their implant to detect and decipher the different patterns of neural activity that indicate the animal has detected an ocean current, a scent or an electrical field. The implant sports a small pincushion of wires that sink into the brain to record activity from many neurons at once. The team plans to program a microprocessor to recognise which patterns of brain activity correlate with which scents.
Atema plans to use the implants to study how sharks track chemical trails. We know that sharks have an extremely acute sense of smell, but exactly how the animals deploy that sense in the wild has so far been a matter of conjecture. Neural implants could change all that. "You get much better information from a swimming shark than from an anaesthetised animal that is strapped down," says Atema. "It could open up a whole new window into how these animals interact with their world."
At the Hawaii Institute of Marine Biology, Tim Tricas is using the implant to investigate what information scalloped hammerhead sharks glean from their electric field sensors. Gel-filled pores, scattered across a shark's head connect to nerve endings that make them sensitive to voltage gradients. Sharks can use these electroreceptors to spot the weak bioelectric fields around hidden prey, such as a flounder buried in sand.
For decades, marine biologists have suspected that sharks might also use these electroreceptors for navigation. Tiger and blue sharks can swim mile after mile in a straight line with no view of the ocean floor and only scattered, changing light coming from above. Some researchers suspect they maintain their heading by using the Earth's magnetic field.
When a conductor - in this case the shark - passes through a magnetic field, the interaction sets up a voltage across the conductor. The strength and orientation of that voltage depends on the conductor's angle to the magnetic field. If a shark could detect those changes, it could use its electrical receptors like a compass. The only way to test this, Tricas says, is to monitor electroreception in a freely swimming shark.
Other animal behaviour researchers are setting their subjects loose too. Jaideep Mavoori at the University of Washington in Seattle has developed a neural implant for monkeys that can monitor brain activity while the primates play. "We believe we are the first to record neural activity from a monkey doing a somersault," Mavoori says.
Mavoori's implant can also stimulate one part of the brain in response to activity in another, and has a microchip that can interpret the neural signals and send a message to another part of the brain or a muscle accordingly. He and his colleagues believe such an implant might ultimately help humans compensate for lost nerve function caused by injury or disease.
They have found that when a monkey is free to move around, sets of neurons controlling opposing muscle groups - those that extend and flex a joint - are both active throughout many movements. However, when a monkey is restrained in a chair and taught to extend its hand for a food reward, say, only the neurons that control the extensor muscles tend to be active.
"Remote controlled sharks glide silently though the water without being spotted"
Understanding this difference may be vital in creating a muscle-stimulating prosthesis to restore movement to a limb paralysed by nerve damage. For some loose movements, such as gently extending your arm in and out, sending signals to opposing muscles in turn works quite well. However, for movements that require some rigidity in the joint, such as inserting a book into a bookcase, you need to engage opposing muscles simultaneously. A successful neural prosthesis will need to mimic both patterns.
Meanwhile DARPA too plans to take its shark implants out of the laboratory. Project engineer Walter Gomes of the Naval Undersea Warfare Center in Newport, Rhode Island, says the team's next step will be to implant the device into blue sharks and release them into the ocean off the coast of Florida.
However, the radio signals used to direct the dogfish in the tank will not penetrate water, so the engineers plan to communicate with the sharks using sonar. According to Gomes, the navy already has acoustic signalling towers in the area that are suitable for relaying messages from a ship to a shark up to 300 kilometres away. The team has designed a sonar receiver shaped like a remora fish to minimise drag when attached to the animal.
The scientists will be particularly interested in the sharks' health during the tests. As wild predators, it is very easy to exhaust them, and this will place strict limits on how long the researchers can control their movements in any one session without harming them. Despite this limitation, though, remote controlled sharks do have advantages that robotic underwater surveillance vehicles just cannot match: they are silent, and they power themselves.
From issue 2541 of New Scientist magazine, 01 March 2006, page 30
Fish with chips stay close to the farm
Fisheries scientists are investigating the use of neural implants to control the behaviour of farmed fish. They hope the tags will eliminate the need to pen and feed fish, a practice that pollutes the surrounding waters and promotes disease. Instead, the plan is to let the fish loose to forage for themselves and then retrieve them when they are large enough to harvest.
One way to contain the fish would be an acoustic fence, a barrier of sound signals that would trigger the implants to deliver a warning signal to the fish's brain, possibly by mimicking a bad smell. Barry Costa-Pierce, a marine researcher at the University of Rhode Island in Narragansett, says his team has already developed implants that can make the fish surface on command. The project is focusing on bluefin and bigeye tuna, cobia and salmon.
Costa-Pierce is hoping to reduce the cost of each implant to a matter of pennies, although he admits the barriers to implementing the scheme are primarily legal, not economic. Setting tuna loose would raise the question of who owns a fish that swims in the commons of the ocean. Until governments can establish fishing regulations that take account of such implants, commercial fisheries are unlikely to take up the idea.
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That's what they want to do with US, too, with the implantable RFID chips. |
| ~GAIA~
I HATE mornings ...
User ID: 368523
2/6/2008 4:59 PM
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The underwater cable: conspiracy theories
.....suggest more about conspiraciy theories: 1. The anti-Semite Ahmadinejad from Iran must be in fact a Shint Bet agent, put there just to make Iran look bad. And justify an attack on its territory and nuclear facilities, of course... 2. Mahmoud Abbas must be an Israeli agent, to justify israeli attacks on the Palestiniens. 3.The Kassam rockets must be sent on Israel by Israeli agents, to justify Isreali "phony" attacks on Palestinians. Stupid theories?...mmmm...not as stupid as the theories we hear about in today's newspapers (look for the Protocols, for example).
Who stands to benefit? That's the latest pseudo-scientific/sociological/political watchword when anti-Semites seek to blame Israel for modern tragedies.
What about 9/11? Of course it was "the Jews" - who else stood to benefit from making al-Qaida look bad? The hijackers were Saudis, you say? Irrelevant - leave it to Israel to recruit authentic Arab double agents to hijack planes and fly them into American landmarks.
It seems there's nothing that can't be blamed on the Jews - whether its missing Christian children during the Middle Ages - in the classic take on the "Blood Libel" - or the massive Internet outage that hit the Arab world over the past week. Well, not just the Arabs - India has had a lot of Internet problems, and Iran may still be 100 percent without Internet access after several underwater, fiber-optic cables were damaged or cut.
The outages, which many in the Arab world and the far-Left, hate-Israel community are already blaming on you know who, began about a week ago. A pair of undersea communications cables between Egypt and Europe - the data "lifeline" for much of the Arab world - broke about 8 kilometers off Alexandria's harbor, which was closed most of the week due to the massive storm that hit the region. India, which also uses the FLAG Europe Asia and SEA-ME-WE 4 cables, was severely hampered, wreaking havoc with much of the world's back-office data-processing, and leaving frustrated Americans without the technical assistance that India does so well. Banks in the Gulf region were hurting, and officials said it could be a week, maybe two, until things get back to normal.
Besides being used for fast Internet communications, the cables also carry digital phone calls and TV signals. So even the many people in the region who don't use the Internet were affected, as the legions of guest workers in the Gulf and Saudi Arabia couldn't make phone calls to family or transfer their salaries home to places like the Philippines and Pakistan (which had its own Internet problems). Several African countries that use the cables, as well as Egypt and Syria, were all out of Internet luck too.
And then there was Iran. On Friday, a third cable - maybe a fourth, according to some accounts - got cut in the Persian Gulf, slowing the already bottle-necked traffic that could still get through, and cutting off Iran. Curiously, according to the anti-Israel crowd, there were only two countries left unscathed by the cable fiasco: Israel and Iraq. (I read contradictory reports on Lebanon.) Hmm.
According to the companies that own the Mediterranean cables, the outage was apparently caused by the anchor of a ship that spliced a cable when it fell overboard. (I haven't heard any explanation yet for the Gulf cable.) Although it seems a little too coincidental, it's not unreasonable for weather related mishaps to occur in the middle of a major winter storm on the high seas. As far as the Gulf is concerned, I wouldn't be surprised if this ( [link to dont_use_this.com]
Of course, logic never comes into play for these people; it's got to be Israel's fault. Well, I've got a theory of my own. Instead of saying that Israel and/or the CIA - which, as we all know, controls Iraq nowadays - deliberately cut the cables to isolate the Arab world, and especially Iran, and set it up for "something," I think it was the Arabs/Iran themselves that did the cutting to make Israel look bad by having something to blame on us. Or we could just call it a draw, and attribute the breakages to bad winter weather and infrastructure failure - not unheard of with underwater cables.
Why wasn't Israel affected? Simply because we use a different cable, with Egypt and company refusing to allow Israel to rent bandwidth on the same one it uses. Israel's cable is called MedNautilus ( [link to www.mednautilus.com),] originally put together by a consortium that involved Israelis, but is now wholly owned by Spain's Telefonica.
"Our" cable travels under the Mediterranean Sea from Tel Aviv to Sicily, and looks on the map to be several dozen kilometers north of the broken Egyptian cable.
Considering how important these cables are for business and telecommunication, one would think there would be a backup system of some sort to avoid the outages and data-pipe shortages that have been affecting nearly a billion people over the past week.
Unfortunately for the Egyptians, Kuwaitis, Iranians and Indians, there was apparently no sufficient backup data communications system to keep their businesses going. And the same holds true for us.
Actually, we have it worse than others in our neighborhood. While some reports said Saudi Arabia was able to partially restore its service using "terrestrial routes" (overland cables, I guess), we don't have that option. For high-speed communications, MedNautilus is the only option.
There are two other cables available, the EMOS and CIOS systems, which have been around since the early 1990s (MedNautilus was set up in 2001). But according to one Internet expert I spoke to, they "couldn't hold the bandwidth of even one big Israeli ISP today, much less all of them." Not to mention that the price of access on MedNautilus has been rising in recent years, making things much more expensive for ISPs and keeping prices relatively high for many customers.
And what would happen to Israel's hi-tech economy if the line to the West was down for a couple of weeks?
The solution to both the redundancy problem and the high prices on MedNautilus would seem to be the construction of another high-speed underwater communications cable. Last month a number of Israeli ISPs got together to discuss doing just that ( [link to dont_use_this.com]
If the mess in the Arab Internet world last week should teach us anything, it should teach us three things: 1) The importance of redundant systems for an an advanced hi-tech economy; 2) The importance of a strong navy to keep troublemakers bent on economic terrorism from cutting the cable; and 3) The importance for ship captains to make sure they don't drop anchor in the wrong place.
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..what can burn for years without burn...
..stone can grow without rain...
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368062
2/6/2008 5:07 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
1...2...3... ok... 4 ... maybe... but NINE?!
WTF is happening and who the hell is doing that?! Quoting: Whee! 8D
The only point you have made is that YOU have ... SPIRITUAL DEAFNESS ... because of a SINFUL HEART.
It's obvious, toilet paper and all! |
| TruthSeeker7
User ID: 369016
2/6/2008 5:09 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
1...2...3... ok... 4 ... maybe... but NINE?!
WTF is happening and who the hell is doing that?!
The only point you have made is that YOU have ... SPIRITUAL DEAFNESS ... because of a SINFUL HEART. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368062
Judge not lest... |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 369169
2/6/2008 5:32 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
3) The importance for ship captains to make sure they don't drop anchor in the wrong place.
jerusalem post Quoting: ~GAIA~
Two things.
First, don't confuse Jews with Zionists, but you already knew that.
Second, next time have the ship captains turn off their invisibility cloaking device so they can be seen by the onshore video cameras. |
| NightWisp
User ID: 369136
2/6/2008 5:42 PM
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Sharks and cables. Yeah that is the ticket. I saw it once in a movie. Oh what was the name of it... Teeth?? NO..... JAWS!
He just chewed and chewed on that cable.
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| <October>
User ID: 312470
2/6/2008 6:23 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Extra news and links
The Internet Traffic Report monitors the flow of data around the world. It then displays a value between zero and 100. Higher values indicate faster and more reliable connections.
[ link to www.internettrafficreport.com]
Thanks for the link, eh!
Looks like it's Iran, Africa, Germany, Florida and Columbia...
all at zero.
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| TruthSeeker7
User ID: 369016
2/6/2008 6:32 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Someone please verify each of these for me.
Getting some flack at Wired blog:
[link to blog.wired.com]
In response to my post saying there were 8 confirmed cuts, they wrote:
"There are not 8 confirmed cuts.
Your type of "reporting" is exactly why I had to write this post."
My response:
YES THERE *ARE*.
SEARCH THEM FOR YOURSELF.
There are ***EIGHT*** (or nine if you count the "unreported one from Jan. 23).
Two off of Alexandria, Egypt
One in the Suez, Egypt
One off of Marseille, France
One off of Dubai, in the Persian Gulf
One off of Bandar Abbas, Iran in the Persian Gulf
One between Qatar and the UAE, in the Persian Gulf
One near Penang, Malaysia
Here they are:
THREE IN EGYPT - one running through the Suez to Sri Lanka; two near Alexandria:
"DUBAI (Zawya Dow Jones)--A third undersea fibre optic cable running through the Suez to Sri Lanka was cut Friday, said a Flag official."
"Two other fiber optic cables owned by Flag Telecom and consortium SEA-ME-WE 4 located near Alexandria, Egypt, were damaged Wednesday leading to a slowdown in Internet and telephone services in the Middle East and South Asia." [link to www.marketwatch.com]
Here's number FOUR: "the other in the waters off Marseille, France, telecommunications operators said."
[link to www.news.com]
Here's FIVE: Between Dubai and Oman
"Internet provider in UAE confirms undersea cable cut between Dubai, Oman, cause unknown"
[link to www.iht.com]
Number SIX: near Bandar Abbas, Iran (being avoided by major media as it's in IRAN and will really stoke conspiracy "theories"???)
"FALCON near Bandar Abbas in Iran and SeaMeWe-4"
"FALCON Segment 7a - Fault 1st February between BND (Bandar Abbas, Iran) and KWI (Kuwait), we are waiting for ship to go out and it maybe fixed before going out the fault on 7b - to be confirmed."
"FALCON Segment 7b (Bandra Abbas - Al Seeb) - E-Marine continues to
await the permit to enter the Iranian waters and current forecast for
the ship to start a work is around 19th February."
[link to www.merit.edu]
Number SEVEN: Between Qatar and the UAE:
"An undersea telecom cable linking Qatar to the UAE was reported damaged on Friday"
"This is the third incident of its kind in the area since January 30 since the cables were first damaged in the Mediterranean and then off the coast of Dubai, causing widespread disruption to Internet and international telephone services in Egypt, Gulf Arab states and south Asia."
[link to www.khaleejtimes.com]
And, number EIGHT: near Penang, Malaysia
"SeaMeWe-4 (South East Asia-Middle East-Western Europe-4) near Penang, Malaysia"
[link to www.zawya.com]
Number NINE: "unreported"
"The first cut in the undersea Internet cable occurred on January 23, in the Flag Telcoms FALCON submarine cable which was not reported. This has not been repaired yet and the cause remains unknown, explained Jaishanker."
[link to www.zawya.com]
At least EIGHT, if not NINE.
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Please, someone go through the links above and make sure I have not counted any cable more than once.
Thanks :) |
| 30
User ID: 369253
2/6/2008 7:20 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
What if I told you that four of the cables where cut in nine different places, most about 50 ft off shore. I can't say much more because I got this info from a military source. I guess sharks, ships, or whatever have a thing for cables 50 ft off shore. :) |
| boyy/dalak
User ID: 368994
2/6/2008 7:55 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
''yea ok.. and i have a bridge to sell ya.''
and the dog ate my homework. |
| boyy/dalak
User ID: 368994
2/6/2008 7:58 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Extra news and links
The Internet Traffic Report monitors the flow of data around the world. It then displays a value between zero and 100. Higher values indicate faster and more reliable connections.
[ link to www.internettrafficreport.com]
Thanks for the link, eh!
Looks like it's Iran, Africa, Germany, Florida and Columbia...
all at zero.
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| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 324260
2/6/2008 8:03 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
so doomed |
| Blimped
User ID: 360104
2/6/2008 8:24 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Ok so it is confirmed...
...It wasn't Expanding Earth, it was Sharks....makes more sence.
:rollseyes: |
| Blimped
User ID: 360104
2/6/2008 8:54 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Well, Well, Well...
"Internet and telephone communications across the Middle East and India were disrupted after two submarine cable systems in the Mediterranean Sea were cut.
Six ships were diverted from Alexandria port and one may have severed the cables with an anchor, said a spokesman for Flag Telecom Group Ltd., which operates one of the cables. The incident took place 8.3 kilometers (5.2 miles) from Alexandria beach in northern Egypt, the spokesman, who asked not to be named, said in an interview from Mumbai, India.
India and countries across the Middle East experienced slow Internet connections and problems making international calls to the U.S. and Europe, the spokesman said. The break will take 12 to 15 days to fix, he said.
Emirates Integrated Telecommunications Co., the United Arab Emirates' second-biggest mobile-phone company, is working with the cable operators, Flag Telecom and SEA-ME-WE 4, to find out why the cables were cut and to determine when service can be restored.
Laughlin said, We'll try to move customers over as soon as we can. While it's rare for undersea fiber cables to break, they can come apart when geographic faults move.
Egypt's Ministry of Telecommunications`has formed an emergency team to bring back the service quickly through several alternative paths such as the Suez Canal and satellite links,'according to a statement broadcast on Egyptian television.
The cables are not easily broken so there must have been a`huge hit, Orascom's Metry said.
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You can bet the Big Phone companies know very well what is happening.
EXPANDING EARTH
[link to www.bloomberg.com] |
| Free Store
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2/6/2008 9:13 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Good Find.. |
| Free Store
User ID: 142494
2/6/2008 9:14 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Stretching will break cables.. |
| Anonymous Coward
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2/6/2008 9:17 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Stretching will break cables.. Quoting: Free Store 142494
Trained navy dolphins can leave a small charge on the cable. |
| Anonymous Coward
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2/6/2008 9:30 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
LOL! Now who could tell the sharks to bite the tasteless, lifeless cables? Could it be..................................GOD???? |
| Anonymous Coward
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2/6/2008 9:30 PM | | Blimped
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2/6/2008 9:31 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Good Find.. Quoting: Free Store 142494
"On 26th December, 2006, a powerful earthquake shook the seabed off southern Taiwan.
The magnitude 7.1 earthquake was followed by one of the largest disruptions of modern telecommunications history.
Nine submarine cables in the Strait of Luzon, between Taiwan and the Philippines, were broken thus disabling vital connections between SE Asia and the rest of the world. China Telecom reported that several international submarine communications cables had been broken..."
[link to www.dailywireless.org]
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Sorry to bust your "political posturing" bubbles..
...but unless I missed the fact that 2 years ago this was done so Japan could forcfully annex Tywan without any one knowing...
...the recent seismic activity in the area caused by the Expanding Earth theory is breaking these cables...
..but hey...it is still woo woo |
| Free Store
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2/6/2008 9:32 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
Stretching will break cables..
Trained navy dolphins can leave a small charge on the cable. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 335123
Embedded in the seafloor?
I think it was fish poop |
| Anonymous Coward
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2/6/2008 9:34 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
LOL! Now who could tell the sharks to bite the tasteless, lifeless cables? Could it be..................................GOD???? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11830
Sharks chew on anything, even old cars and shopping trolleys. |
| Anonymous Coward
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2/6/2008 9:37 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
LOL! Now who could tell the sharks to bite the tasteless, lifeless cables? Could it be..................................GOD????
Sharks chew on anything, even old cars and shopping trolleys. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 369305
I would say it could be the EMF given off by the copper conduits embedded in the cable, but surely it would have happened in a more gradual manner, as the new cables were layed, not all at once....unless....the Creator commanded it. |
| Anonymous Coward
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2/6/2008 9:41 PM | | Re: BREAKING!! ***NINE*** or more cables cut?!!! ***EIGHT*** CONFIRMED | Quote |
PHONE COMPANY FINDS SHARKS CUTTING IN
New York Times
Wednesday, February 6, 2008
LEAD: Sharks have shown an inexplicable taste for the new fiber-optic cables that are being strung along the ocean floor linking the United States, Europe and Japan, telephone company officials say.
Sharks have shown an inexplicable taste for the new fiber-optic cables that are being strung along the ocean floor linking the United States, Europe and Japan, telephone company officials say.
In the Atlantic alone, shark bites have caused the failure of four segments of cable, which is the main artery for global voice and computer communications. And British telephone officials monitoring the installation of the fiber-optic network that will link the United States to Japan and Guam are also reporting troubles with gnawing sharks.
The attacks have caused some delays in laying cable, and a single bite on a deep-sea line, which is about the size of a garden hose, can cost $250,000 or more to fix. There is a benefit, however. In studying ways to limit damage from the attacks, the telephone companies are providing marine scientists with valuable new data on sharks and specimens of previously unknown species.
The first evidence of sharks' attraction to the cables was the discovery of shark teeth embedded in an experimental line off the Canary Islands in 1985. A shark usually loses teeth when it bites something, and it later grows new ones.
''We were surprised,'' said James M. Barrett, deputy director of international engineering for the American Telephone and Telegraph Company. ''We had laid 55,000 or 60,000 miles of undersea cable all over the world with no problem. There had not been a single case of a shark biting one of the old cables,'' which were made of copper.
He added, ''We took the teeth to a shark dentist and asked him to identify them.'' Even now, he said, experts disagree on which type of shark was responsible for the attack.
After further instances of having cables damaged by shark bites, A.T.&T. officials now say they are confident that by wrapping the cable in double layers of steel tape they can prevent future damage. But the cause of the ''Jaws syndrome,'' as one telephone company spokesman called it, remains a mystery.
The fiber-optic cables look essentially the same as copper cables, except that the newer cables are less than an inch in diameter - mere dental floss to a big shark - while the older ones are as thick as an arm. Both also have armored jackets and contain copper wires that carry electrical power to amplifying stations along the way.
Inside each of the new cables, however, are six hairlike strands of glass that can carry as many as 40,000 separate conversations traveling as staccato pulses of laser light. In contrast, the first trans-Atlantic telephone cable, a fat copper line laid between Newfoundland and Scotland in 1956, could carry only 36 conversations. Even the newest copper cable, laid in 1983, has a maximum capacity of only 9,000 calls.
Construction of the trans-Atlantic fiber-optic network is scheduled to be completed in 1988. But the attacks on functioning segments of test lines in the Canary Islands are worrisome to A.T.&T. and its several dozen foreign partners in the $1 billion projects.
Besides the potential to disrupt communications, the bites require repairs that often take a week or more, depending on depth and the weather, and cost $250,000 and up. The repairs are also technologically complex and inherently risky. Intensive Marine Research
Compared with the other hazards of the deep -fishing lines, anchors and propellers, volcanoes, earthquakes and jagged ridges - sharks would seem to be a minor threat to the cables. But the sharks' unpredictability and their sudden, unexplained interest in the fiber-optic lines prompted A.T.&T. to support an intensive study program involving dozens of people at several leading marine research centers.
In addition to tests at sea, experiments were performed by scientists at the Bell Laboratories in New Jersey and at marine labs in Connecticut, Florida and the Bahamas, Mr. Barrett said.
Testing a theory that sharks feed at depths as great as 3,000 meters (nearly two miles), the researchers fished for them using long lines, rather than nets, which are easily avoided by big fish. They discovered, Mr. Barrett said, that sharks rarely feed below 1,500 meters.
''Hundreds of sharks have been caught,'' said Mr. Barrett of A.T.&T. On one expedition, he said, ''about a dozen shark experts were out on the boat.'' He went on, ''They got this one big shark on deck and tried to force-feed him samples of cable to see how he'd react. He was not happy about having someone try to shove it down his mouth.'' A Donation of 350 Shark
AS an At&T emp. I can tell you that this is a reprint of an old report that was made under friendlier times.
Well before the Twin tower attacks.
READ: propaganda.
over and out
A.T.&T. recently donated more than 350 specimens of shark, preserved, to the American Museum of Natural History in New York. The gift ''was certainly one of the largest collections of large fish ever received here,'' said Dr. Gary Nelson, chairman of the museum's department of ichthyology.
Besides sharks, he said, there are skates, rays and fish that were previously unknown. ''There are some species that are new to science, that have not been seen before,'' Dr. Nelson said, adding that many of the specimens have not yet been unpacked.
''These are treasurable things,'' he said. ''A.T.&T. delivered all this to our door. They did it in the interest of science, and it was very helpful and responsible. They could have just thrown them back overboard.'' Mr. Barrett said he believes a combination of factors may be responsible for the attacks, all of which have occurred about a mile deep on cable that was laid ''bar tight,'' suspended without slack. It is possible, he said, that vibrations of the taut cable occur at a frequency that sharks identify with food. Electrical Current Suspected
Also, some researchers believe there may be something unusual about the electrical current in the fiber-optic lines that attracts sharks and that may trigger an automatic feeding reflex.
The finding that sharks are supersensitive to electrical signals, able to detect electric fields as faint as a few millionths of a volt per centimeter in water, is a recent significant discovery in marine science, Dr. Nelson said.
The sharks may detect a faint field near the cable and attack. ''Not knowing any better, they try to eat it,'' Dr. Nelson said. ''It's programmed in their genes. Whether the field comes from a cable or from a tin can, sharks are prone to behave as if they were encountering a food item, and try to eat it up.''
Mr. Barrett said the fiber-optic cables would be armored to depths of 2,500 meters to protect against shark bites, and buried in trenches closer to shore to guard against fishing boat anchors.
''We learn something new on every cable system we lay on the ocean floor,'' Mr. Barrett said. ''This time it happens to be sharks. It's a very challenging environment.''
yea ok.. and i have a bridge to sell ya. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 272356 |
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