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Egypt says ships did not cause Internet cable damage

 
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Agence France-Presse
First Posted 07:54am (Mla time) 02/04/2008

CAIRO -- Damage to undersea Internet cables in the Mediterranean that hit business across the Middle East and South Asia was not caused by ships, Egypt's communications ministry said on Sunday, ruling out earlier reports.

The transport ministry added that footage recorded by onshore video cameras of the location of the cables showed no maritime traffic in the area when the cables were damaged.

"The ministry's maritime transport committee reviewed footage covering the period of 12 hours before and 12 hours after the cables were cut and no ships sailed the area," a statement said.

"The area is also marked on maps as a no-go zone and it is therefore ruled out that the damage to the cables was caused by ships," the statement added.

Two cables were damaged earlier this week in the Mediterranean sea and another off the coast of Dubai, causing widespread disruption to Internet and international telephone services in Egypt, Gulf Arab states and South Asia.

A fourth cable linking Qatar to the United Arab Emirates was damaged on Sunday causing yet more disruptions, telecommunication provider Qtel said.

Earlier reports said that the damage had been caused by ships that had been diverted off their usual route because of bad weather.

Egypt's communication and information technology ministry said it would report its findings to the owners of the two damaged Mediterranean cables, FLAG Telecom and SEA-ME-WE4.

A repair ship was expected to begin work to fix the two Mediterranean cables on Tuesday.
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Starfish poop?
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Its a Fire Sale! Everything must go!

There is obviously some purposeful reason behind the recent cable cuts.
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the news is always reporting that al queda and other terrorist groups use the internet to gain support and recruit new suicide bombers.And possibly,America's enemies are using the internet to plot strategy's against them.Such as raising the cost of oil to disrupt the economy.
Maybe they just dont want to provide freeky geeks wearing diapers on their heads American porn.

i think its all part of an alien invasion tho.
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Flag plays down net blackout conspiracy theories

Flag Telecom on Monday played down conspiracy theories over the recent damage to undersea cables that has seriously disrupted internet and international telecoms services across the region.

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could it be Russia doing this as a means of stepping up a possible war?
I mean, werent they doing fly bys and crossing into USA territories? And havent they been doing under sea research or something lately?
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I think we all know it was either USA or joooz!!! getting ready for a war?

I think once it got past two or three it was no longer just a test. they must know that Iran has cable and satellite into Russia!!

maybe just trying to see where the traffic pops up again, by what route.
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it makes sense though.Deprive the enemy of outside communication so they dont know what to expect.
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02/06/2008 07:41 AM
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Contact British Aerospace for a neat little stealthy underwater cable cutting craft.
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I just saw this headline on www.reddit.com - -

Wonder why FIVE undersea communication cables were cut? Answer: to stop Iran from installing oil bourse scheduled to go online this month

Comments? I haven't a clue but this sure is a coincidence, isn't it?
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Who the FU^& knows they were "CUT"...they are just getting to the site


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Nancy Lieder zetas said already what was. I don't know why people don't see the obvious: the Earth is going with changes.
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Of course ships and ships' anchors could not sever these internet cables with their sturdy construction! I saw a diagram of a cross-section of one of these cables posted on an internet site last week and was very impressed.

They were obviously cut deliberately. Cui bono?

I just saw a post on www.reddit.com on this topic and I blinked twice and then said "Wow!" to myself... Check it out:

"Wonder why FIVE undersea communication cables were cut? Answer: to stop Iran from installing oil bourse scheduled to go online this month"

Could this be true? Sabotage aimed at protecting the US Petrodollar from being usurped by the Euro? Who knows? But it is a credible CT worth thinking about...

[I was not the reddit poster; I am just a regular reader of this website.]
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When saddam sold oil for euros he was attacked immediately and that's a fact people.
The iranian oil bourse will never take place but this time the us cannot afford another war it would be too obvious and devastating for it's own economy which is already suffering from the sup prime mess.
So the only solution is sabotage! Ahmadjinedad is curiously very naif to think that us and isreal would ever allow the iranian oil bourse.
Besides if sabotage doesn't work they will use tactical nukes against iran these are mini nukes.
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Such as raising the cost of oil to disrupt the economy.
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uhmmmmm, hate to break it to ya.... the USA has been jacking oil prices worldwide for a long time.

its a fact.

and you people pay half as much as us for a gallon, so dont whinge.
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Don't take your eye off the ball.
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The transport ministry added that footage recorded by onshore video cameras of the location of the cables showed no maritime traffic in the area when the cables were damaged.

"The ministry's maritime transport committee reviewed footage covering the period of 12 hours before and 12 hours after the cables were cut and no ships sailed the area," a statement said


From now on, they'd better get some underwater cameras!
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The transport ministry added that footage recorded by onshore video cameras of the location of the cables showed no maritime traffic in the area when the cables were damaged.

"The ministry's maritime transport committee reviewed footage covering the period of 12 hours before and 12 hours after the cables were cut and no ships sailed the area," a statement said


From now on, they'd better get some underwater cameras!
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SUBMARINES are you people retarded they used submarines
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Surface cameras would obviously not pick up submarines operating in the area.
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it was cheney riding on flipper,he shot them all with his under water gun.
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CAIRO, Egypt: Fallout spread Thursday from a cut in two undersea Internet cables off Egypt's coast, with India waking up to half of its bandwidth disrupted and widespread outages still hampering a wide swathe of the Mideast.

Officials said it could take a week or more to fix the cables, in part because of bad weather. Officials in several countries were scrambling to reroute traffic to satellites and to other cables through Asia.

In all, users in India, Pakistan, Egypt, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait and Bahrain were affected. Israel was unaffected by the outages because its Internet traffic is connected to Europe through a different undersea cable, and Lebanon and Iraq were also operating normally.

The biggest impact to the rest of the world could come from the outages across India — where many U.S. companies outsource back-office operations including customer service call centers.

The outage also raised questions about the system's vulnerability. A Gulf analyst called it a "wake-up call" while an analyst in London cautioned that no one, including the West, was immune to such disruptions.
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They could have a "massive impact on businesses," said Alex Burmaster, from Nielsen Online in London, and ordinary people "probably couldn't imagine" a life without the Internet.

Large-scale disruptions are rare but not unknown. East Asia suffered nearly two months of outages and slow service after an earthquake damaged undersea cables near Taiwan in December 2006. That repair operation also was hampered by bad weather.

So far, most governments in the region appeared to be operating normally, apparently because they had switched to backup satellite systems. However, the outages had caused slowdown in traffic on Dubai's stock exchange Wednesday.

In India, major outsourcing firms, such as Infosys and Wipro, and U.S. companies with significant back-office and research and development operations in India, such as IBM and Intel, said they were still trying to assess how their operations had been impacted, if at all.

But the president of the Internet Service Providers' Association of India, Rajesh Chharia, said companies that serve the East Coast of the United States and Britain had been badly hit.

"The companies that serve the (U.S.) East coast and the UK are worst affected. The delay is very bad in some cases," Chharia told The Associated Press. "They have to arrange backup plans or they have to accept the poor quality for the time being until the fiber is restored.

Chharia said some companies were rerouting their service through the Pacific route, bypassing the disrupted cables. He said roughly 50 percent of the country's bandwidth had been affected.

At the New Delhi office of Symantec Corp., a security software maker based in Cupertino, Calif., "there's definitely been a slowdown. We're able to work but the system is very slow," said Anurag Kuthiala, a system engineer.

"There's no sense of how soon the problem will be fixed," he added.

It appeared the cables had been cut north of the port city of Alexandria, and rumors in Egypt said a ship's anchor had cut them.

However, a top Egyptian telecommunications official cautioned Thursday that workers won't know for sure what caused the cuts in the cables until they are able to get repair ships and divers to the area, off the northern coast of Egypt. The official in Egypt's Ministry of Communications and Information Technology asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

Rough weather and seas prevented repair ships from getting to the site Wednesday, the official said — and it was unclear how soon they could get there.

And, even once the repair workers can arrive at the site, it could take as much as a week to repair the cable, the official said.

TeleGeography, a U.S. research group that tracks submarine cables around the world, said the Mediterranean undersea cable cuts reduced the amount of available capacity on the route from Mideast to Europe by 75 percent, and that until service was restored, many providers in Egypt and the Middle East would have to reroute their traffic around the globe, to Southeast Asia and across the Pacific and Atlantic oceans.

Alan Mauldin, research chief at the Washington-based TeleGeography, said similar outages in the future could be averted by new cable construction — even though multiple cables could not guarantee against outages.

Mustafa Alani, head of security and terrorism department at the Dubai-based Gulf Research Center, said the outage should be a "wake-up call" for governments and professionals to divert more resources to protect vital infrastructure.
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Internet Cables Cut–Prelude to War or Simply A Warning?

Mark Glenn
American Free Press
Tuesday February 5, 2008

A single undersea fiber-optic cable carrying internet traffic accidentally being cut once in a year’s time is believable. 5 of them however within the span of only a few days resulting in most of the Middle East being left in the informational dark ages cannot be mere happenstance. The odds are too extreme to even contemplate it being anything but a deliberate act of sabotage, and particularly when Israel and US-occupied Iraq happen to be unaffected by it.

As of the moment of this writing, 5 internet cables–buried deep beneath the ocean floor to prevent them being accidentally dredged up by a ships’ anchor–have been cut, preventing most of the Middle East from internet access. The cables provide 90% of the region’s internet service and the countries affected most by this are Egypt, Bahrain, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Iran. They have since re-routed to older, slower lines and satellites, but overall internet service is slow and in some cases–particularly Iran, there is no internet service whatsoever.
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No net services to iran............

Now who the fuck would benefit from that ?

ROFL.
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No net services to iran............

Now who the fuck would benefit from that ?

ROFL.
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could be in retaliation for Iran launching its rocket.
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Again I would like to mention my thoughts on this topic. While you are all looking for some war pretext, and this is fair enough, noone seems to be aware of what they use to splice undersea fiber optic cables. Think about it. I've seen end connectors made before, and they need to polish the crap out of each end until it is perfect and flat, flawless. How are they going to do this underwater? They would have to lift the cables, I think, or create a dry area underwater (a bubble of some sorts). But they would have to add something, as they would need to trim and polish all of the broken cables, which would leave a slight shortfall in the actual cable length.

If I were to guess, I would suggest the splice points to be a perfect spot to put some sort of innocent looking splicing device in the line. It is this object that I would question. What other features/functions would it have besides serving as a simple coupling?

If nothing happens as a result of all of this, I would suspect that a network of monitoring devices have been put in place....

just a thought...
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what if its our mother nature ?
moral reasoning takes about 250 miliseconds
we make errors in between
perception->relation->behaviour
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Obviously cut by those UFOs going down in the ocean.
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Hard to believe that this is merely "coincidence"...


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What if, ummmm what if the Aliens are behind it. They been pretty thick this year. hiding
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'Iran Oil Bourse', US Dollar and Internet Cables

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Iran's Finance Minister Davoud Danesh-Jafari told reporters the bourse will be inaugurated during the anniversary of the Islamic Revolution (February 1-11).


"All preparations have been made to launch the bourse; it will open during the Ten-Day Dawn (the ceremonies marking the victory of the 1979 Islamic Revolution in Iran)," Iran's Finance Minister said. However other reports indicate further delays to this already overdue project, with it possibly opening on February 19th. The Minister earlier stated that the Oil Bourse is located on the Persian Gulf island of Kish.

Western media have failed to report on this significant event, which is believed to be the real reason for the hostility and threats of the western globalist elite toward Iran's peaceful nuclear energy program. It is the brain child of Englishman Chris Cook a former director of the International Petroleum Exchange who blew the whistle on market manipulation at the IPE. He has worked for several years in Iran on a Middle Eastern Energy exchange which has been dubbed the "Iran Oil Bourse (IOB)". He said the system would work as a "Peer to Peer" network using the Internet rather than the traditional centralized method to avoid the market manipulation by intermediary traders which affects other oil trading centres.

Recent high level visits within the region, notably between the Iranian and Saudi leadership with Iran having normalized relations with all Arab countries after they were strained since the Iran-Iraq war as well as Bush arriving in Saudi but largely failing in the region whether by begging or threatening, have underscored the importance of this development.

The event is of undoubted importance to the Anglo-American economy although not being reported in most western media, and can only speed on the inevitable collapse of the U.S. Dollar as particularly the Gulf countries and China holding immense dollar reserves appear destined to abandon the currency.

The failure of the Gulf Arab states to bow to U.S. pressure to isolate Iran, the planned new oil bourse and it's threat to the hegemony of the U.S dollar, the U.S.-Zionist threats against Iran are all cited as probable causes of a possible cutting of the main Internet arteries to the entire Gulf region by U.S. submarines which are equipped and trained for such actions as part of information and cyber warfare. Days before the September 11, 2001 attacks, the U.S. closed down 500 Arab and Muslim websites including al-Jazeera, leading some to speculate that another event of major significance is being planned.

The U.S. Navy has for decades had special operations teams that go out on submarines and deploy undersea, on the seabed itself, specifically for cutting or tapping communications cables. The U.S. Navy divers go out through special airlocks and use very sophisticated equipment. This has all been thoroughly documented in the book, Blind Man's Bluff: The Untold Story of American Submarine Espionage, by Sherry Sontag and Christopher Drew (New York: Public Affairs, 1998).

The region has now been mostly patched up with connectivity however is now even more reliant upon another undersea cable to Britain and the USA. Iran was largely unaffected by the cuts in spite of initial rumors to the contrary, suffering an estimated 20% loss in Internet connectivity, whilst Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states were most severely affected and by extension the West of India and North East Africa. Israel, Iraq and Lebanon were the only countries between Egypt and India that were not affected at all as they have a different supply route for their optical fiber cable communications, fueling speculation that the cuts were deliberate.

Full story here.
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"''They got this one big shark on deck and tried to force-feed him samples of cable to see how he'd react. He was not happy about having someone try to shove it down his mouth.'' A Donation of 350 Sharks "

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