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Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"

 
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Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
...it would be naive to expect progress, given the revised public presentation of the position that we see today, right before the start of contacts,"

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said
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Russia does not negotiate on security with US, NATO from position of force — Kremlin
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.. so far and UNTIL SHE DOES. popcorn
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
Russia is about to get smacked.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
Russia is about to get smacked.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
Once america starts bullying countries they do not stop.

America is fully planning for nuclear war, and are ready for it, meaning russia and china have to be ready for it too.

America has no interest in sharing the world with either.

There new world cannot be made, with others having a say in the world, and they know it.

Russia knows this, and at least they are ready.
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It’s a One World after all
It’s a One World after all
It’s a One World after all
It’s a One, One World.

And it looks like we aren’t the leaders.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
NATO faces a moment of Truth more than either the United States or russia.

play your games here if you want and you be dead before you hit the ground.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
NATO faces a moment of Truth more than either the United States or russia.

play your games here if you want and you be dead before you hit the ground.
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from America's point of view regarding the world as a whole, russia is of little importance. NATO, however, and Europe/EU, possesses in its heart an unhealthy desire to exalt itself in all ways above the United States; making it the most dangerous piece on the board.

NATO should be informed that they will be the first to fall at the onset of any conflict. NATO cannot and will not be considered a trusted friend and ally.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
NATO is in great danger because of its arrogance, i think.

Belgium can't accept that every move it makes is being closely monitored...one false one and it over for you.

Do you hear and understand Brussells?

You can make this stop if you want to, but your covetous behavior may have already completely corrupted the functioning of your brain.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
the illusion of a 'mighty russia' is the imagination of an overly ambitious Europe.

russia shouldn't be a part of any of this and Europe knows better.

make no mistake, Europe...you'll be the Only casualty if you don't stop now.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
brace yourselves for the European Spring...the collapse of all power structures within that tiny peninsula on the Asian continent.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
brace yourselves for the European Spring...the collapse of all power structures within that tiny peninsula on the Asian continent.
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sure thing, like in Belarus and now in Kazakhstan rofl5
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brace yourselves for the European Spring...the collapse of all power structures within that tiny peninsula on the Asian continent.
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sure thing, like in Belarus and now in Kazakhstan rofl5
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more like the Arab Spring, but in Europe...some seen, some unseen.

it'll happen fast...hopefully you aren't as slow as i assume slovaki, whatever that is, to be.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
Once america starts bullying countries they do not stop.

America is fully planning for nuclear war, and are ready for it, meaning russia and china have to be ready for it too.

America has no interest in sharing the world with either.

There new world cannot be made, with others having a say in the world, and they know it.

Russia knows this, and at least they are ready.
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Haha... and you believe Russia has good intentions? Foolish one..
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
Once america starts bullying countries they do not stop.

America is fully planning for nuclear war, and are ready for it, meaning russia and china have to be ready for it too.

America has no interest in sharing the world with either.

There new world cannot be made, with others having a say in the world, and they know it.

Russia knows this, and at least they are ready.
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Haha... and you believe Russia has good intentions? Foolish one..
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russia is not a player on the field...but a spectator only.

russia is the fat guy in the stands with John 3:16 painted on his naked body. they are not in the game.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
Europe is the Imposter, it seems.

europe created russia as a mirror image of the object it pretends to be and then tries to get them to fight to the death.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
It's RUSSIA that can't be trusted to leave anyone alone, constantly demanding others do its bidding in their own country or face punishment.

RUSSIA can't be trusted to behave in a civil fashion
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
brace yourselves for the European Spring...the collapse of all power structures within that tiny peninsula on the Asian continent.
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sure thing, like in Belarus and now in Kazakhstan rofl5
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more like the Arab Spring, but in Europe...some seen, some unseen.

it'll happen fast...hopefully you aren't as slow as i assume slovaki, whatever that is, to be.
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You trying to compare the Arabs with Slavic nations? lmao
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
It's RUSSIA that can't be trusted to leave anyone alone, constantly demanding others do its bidding in their own country or face punishment.

RUSSIA can't be trusted to behave in a civil fashion
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You Amis really live on another continent with your la la world views.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
brace yourselves for the European Spring...the collapse of all power structures within that tiny peninsula on the Asian continent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81824240


sure thing, like in Belarus and now in Kazakhstan rofl5
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75903814


more like the Arab Spring, but in Europe...some seen, some unseen.

it'll happen fast...hopefully you aren't as slow as i assume slovaki, whatever that is, to be.
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You trying to compare the Arabs with Slavic nations? lmao
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no.

europe will collapse over the next 47 days. heads up.
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sure thing, like in Belarus and now in Kazakhstan rofl5
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more like the Arab Spring, but in Europe...some seen, some unseen.

it'll happen fast...hopefully you aren't as slow as i assume slovaki, whatever that is, to be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81824240


You trying to compare the Arabs with Slavic nations? lmao
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no.

europe will collapse over the next 47 days. heads up.
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CIA created EU is not Europe.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
Russia refrains from ‘threats and ultimatums’ in view of talks with US, NATO

"We prefer having talks in the first place and only then to voice our evaluations and predictions,"

Russian Presidential Spokesman Dmitry Peskov said
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more like the Arab Spring, but in Europe...some seen, some unseen.

it'll happen fast...hopefully you aren't as slow as i assume slovaki, whatever that is, to be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81824240


You trying to compare the Arabs with Slavic nations? lmao
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75903814


no.

europe will collapse over the next 47 days. heads up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81824240


CIA created EU is not Europe.
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perhaps that's the reason its about to come undone...it is being abandoned and led to its destruction and won't/can't save itself.

russia is unimportant to America for any practical purpose.

Europe is at a crossroads. the question is: does it behave like Hosni Mubarak or Moammar Qaddafi?
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Haha... and you believe Russia has good intentions? Foolish one..
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Russia wants there place in the world, and there sphere of influence, but usa cannot accept it, and want no competition.

Usa is not wanting any other voice in the world, they want to dominate.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
russia is unimportant to America for any practical purpose.
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The reason your soldiers and NAVY come long ways to RU borders. cruise
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russia is unimportant to America for any practical purpose.
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The reason your soldiers and NAVY come long ways to RU borders. cruise
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they are no threat to russia; they like to travel and visit new places. nothing wrong with that.
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russia is unimportant to America for any practical purpose.
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The reason your soldiers and NAVY come long ways to RU borders. cruise
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they are no threat to russia; they like to travel and visit new places. nothing wrong with that.
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staying is not visiting iamwith
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
russia is unimportant to America for any practical purpose.
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The reason your soldiers and NAVY come long ways to RU borders. cruise
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they are no threat to russia; they like to travel and visit new places. nothing wrong with that.
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staying is not visiting iamwith
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russians are in venezuela for the last few years, in cuba for decades and no one complained.

russia recently attacked the United States, 31 December, and no one said a word.
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
"We candidly, directly, without equivocating or using any politically correct formulas stressed [to NATO] that further escalation of the situation can result in very unpredictable and dire consequences for European security,"


Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Grushko said
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Re: Without security guarantees Russia will have to "deter opponents"
Russia expects that the US and NATO will ‘put on paper’ their response to the proposals on security guarantees within a week,


that the promises made in Geneva and Brussels will be fulfilled.


"We repeatedly explained that we needed an article-by-article response to our proposals. <…> If they want to exclude or add something, they should do it in a written form," the foreign minister said. "After that, together with the Defense Minister, we will report this to the Russian President, since it was his initiative. And then, we will prepare our response to the counter initiatives of our Western partners,"


Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov stated on Thursday.
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"The president of Russia has spoken multiple times on the subject of what the measures could be, for example involving the Russian Navy, if things are firmly set on the course of provoking Russia and further increasing the military pressure on us by the US," Ryabkov said. "We don’t want that. The diplomats must come to an agreement."

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