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Language of Tyranny

 
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The word "rights" has become meaningless. True individual rights are inviolate. If I have the right to free speech, you have the right to free speech. My rights do not lessen or negate your rights. If I can assemble, you can assemble; if I can be armed, you can be armed; if my house is secure from warrantless searches, yours house is secure from warrantless searches, and so forth.

Privileges are different. If I have the priviledge of free speech, you can tell me not to say things that bother you. If you have the priviledge to bear arms, I can tell you not to own scary looking ones that make me feel anxious. If I have the priviledge to be secure in my home against warrantless searches, you can perform "sneak and peek" secret raids, or tell me that since I live in a public housing, or am driving my car on a public road, you can search my apartment or vehicle anytime you decide.

According to America's founders, human beings are endowed by our Creator with unalienable rights.[/b] The meaning of "unalienable" is "incapable of being alienated, surrendered or transferred." They are protected from the state under the U.S. Constitution.

What has be done was a play on word to twist thing to state that "alienable" rights ie: priviledges granted by the state, that can legally and arbitrarily be taken away whenever the state decides there is "good" reason.
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Well, OP, thanks for the reminder. To Bush, however, the Constitution (and the Bill of Rights for that matter) is apparently 'just a goddamn piece of paper'. Hmmm. Oh, and I think he wants to dictator too; probably before his term ends.

The Patriot Act cancelled all Americans' rights. It just hasn't hit us hard enough yet before we will all notice.
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Rights given to me by the Most High cannot be taken by mere paper and mans laws

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All choices have consequences, choose wisely, CHOOSE WISELY.
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bump-o
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please read this and read it until you understand it

this is how you lost control of your country, this is how you are being played to loose your civil liberties

think


wake up!
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The word "rights" has become meaningless. True individual rights are inviolate. If I have the right to free speech, you have the right to free speech. My rights do not lessen or negate your rights. If I can assemble, you can assemble; if I can be armed, you can be armed; if my house is secure from warrantless searches, yours house is secure from warrantless searches, and so forth.

Privileges are different. If I have the priviledge of free speech, you can tell me not to say things that bother you. If you have the priviledge to bear arms, I can tell you not to own scary looking ones that make me feel anxious. If I have the priviledge to be secure in my home against warrantless searches, you can perform "sneak and peek" secret raids, or tell me that since I live in a public housing, or am driving my car on a public road, you can search my apartment or vehicle anytime you decide.

According to America's founders, human beings are endowed by our Creator with unalienable rights.[/b] The meaning of "unalienable" is "incapable of being alienated, surrendered or transferred." They are protected from the state under the U.S. Constitution.

What has be done was a play on word to twist thing to state that "alienable" rights ie: priviledges granted by the state, that can legally and arbitrarily be taken away whenever the state decides there is "good" reason.
 Quoting: Play on words 74029


So explain why you can't yell fire at a theatre? And this is not new, its freespeech right?
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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So explain why you can't yell fire at a theatre? And this is not new, its freespeech right?
 Quoting: mathetes


let me put this is very simple terms for you, ever hear the saying "with great power comes great responsibility"?

the vast majority would not yell such a thing if it were not true

no one is saying that the person stating it should not be punished (accepting responsibility for their actions..which we see less and less of these days)

no one implied that this is new, but most people do not understand the differences
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The word "rights" has become meaningless. True individual rights are inviolate. If I have the right to free speech, you have the right to free speech. My rights do not lessen or negate your rights. If I can assemble, you can assemble; if I can be armed, you can be armed; if my house is secure from warrantless searches, yours house is secure from warrantless searches, and so forth.

Privileges are different. If I have the priviledge of free speech, you can tell me not to say things that bother you. If you have the priviledge to bear arms, I can tell you not to own scary looking ones that make me feel anxious. If I have the priviledge to be secure in my home against warrantless searches, you can perform "sneak and peek" secret raids, or tell me that since I live in a public housing, or am driving my car on a public road, you can search my apartment or vehicle anytime you decide.

According to America's founders, human beings are endowed by our Creator with unalienable rights.[/b] The meaning of "unalienable" is "incapable of being alienated, surrendered or transferred." They are protected from the state under the U.S. Constitution.

What has be done was a play on word to twist thing to state that "alienable" rights ie: priviledges granted by the state, that can legally and arbitrarily be taken away whenever the state decides there is "good" reason.


So explain why you can't yell fire at a theatre? And this is not new, its freespeech right?
 Quoting: mathetes


You can yell fire in a crowded theatre if there is indeed a fire. It is a free speech right. You could even do it if the theatre is empty and there is no fire without penalty; however, you cannot yell fire in a crowded theatre if there is no fire and doing so would cause panic leading to physical injury-- a foreseeable liability on your part demonstrating maliciousness based on misrepresentation.

You can't make false statements against someone without penalty either for the same principles.

Your argument is a common one, but based upon a false premise.
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The word "rights" has become meaningless. True individual rights are inviolate. If I have the right to free speech, you have the right to free speech. My rights do not lessen or negate your rights. If I can assemble, you can assemble; if I can be armed, you can be armed; if my house is secure from warrantless searches, yours house is secure from warrantless searches, and so forth.

Privileges are different. If I have the priviledge of free speech, you can tell me not to say things that bother you. If you have the priviledge to bear arms, I can tell you not to own scary looking ones that make me feel anxious. If I have the priviledge to be secure in my home against warrantless searches, you can perform "sneak and peek" secret raids, or tell me that since I live in a public housing, or am driving my car on a public road, you can search my apartment or vehicle anytime you decide.

According to America's founders, human beings are endowed by our Creator with unalienable rights.[/b] The meaning of "unalienable" is "incapable of being alienated, surrendered or transferred." They are protected from the state under the U.S. Constitution.

What has be done was a play on word to twist thing to state that "alienable" rights ie: priviledges granted by the state, that can legally and arbitrarily be taken away whenever the state decides there is "good" reason.


So explain why you can't yell fire at a theatre? And this is not new, its freespeech right?


You can yell fire in a crowded theatre if there is indeed a fire. It is a free speech right. You could even do it if the theatre is empty and there is no fire without penalty; however, you cannot yell fire in a crowded theatre if there is no fire and doing so would cause panic leading to physical injury-- a foreseeable liability on your part demonstrating maliciousness based on misrepresentation.

You can't make false statements against someone without penalty either for the same principles.

Your argument is a common one, but based upon a false premise.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 367309

I agree 100% with demonstrating maliciousness based on misrepresentation. Therefore can you post incitement to murder or cause damage on the internet? And as far as "You can't make false statements against someone without penalty either for the same principles." You must be new here! LOL
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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play on words is how the USA has gone downhill fast
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bump bump
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bump cool2
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because of social security numbers and birth certificates you belong to the state of which you are only allotted privileges
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So explain why you can't yell fire at a theatre? And this is not new, its freespeech right?
 Quoting: mathetes


You have every right to yell "Fire" in a theater and the other people involved have every right to hold you responsible for your actions.
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I'd like to see where it is in the Constitution that the government has any right to dole out privileges.
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thanks liberals.
Well said indeed.
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Well, OP, thanks for the reminder. To Bush, however, the Constitution (and the Bill of Rights for that matter) is apparently 'just a goddamn piece of paper'. Hmmm. Oh, and I think he wants to dictator too; probably before his term ends.

The Patriot Act cancelled all Americans' rights. It just hasn't hit us hard enough yet before we will all notice.
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Privileges are different. If I have the priviledge of free speech, you can tell me not to say things that bother you. If you have the priviledge to bear arms, I can tell you not to own scary looking ones that make me feel anxious. If I have the priviledge to be secure in my home against warrantless searches, you can perform "sneak and peek" secret raids, or tell me that since I live in a public housing, or am driving my car on a public road, you can search my apartment or vehicle anytime you decide.
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This deserves a bumpbump
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I'd like to see where it is in the Constitution that the government has any right to dole out privileges.
 Quoting: Will


Our government is a corporation and they can make whatever corporate rules they want to (usually called statutes). The only way to get out from under their thumb is to stop being an agent/employee of the corporation, in other words, just quit (easier said than done). Get rid of all government numbers and i.d.s' and stop taking any of their benefits.
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Domicile, a word of tyranny.

domicile. A person's legal home. That place where a man has his true, fixed, and permanent home and principal establishment, and to which whenever he is absent he has the intention of returning. Smith v. Smith, 206 Pa.Super. 310, 213 A.2d 94. Generally, physical presence within a state and the intention to make it one's home are the requisites of establishing a "domicile" therein. The permanent residence of a person or the place to which he intends to return even though he may actually reside elsewhere. A person may have more than one residence but only one domicile. The legal domicile of a person is important since it, rather than the actual residence, often controls the jurisdiction of the taxing authorities and determines where a person may exercise the privilege of voting and other legal rights and privileges. The established, fixed, permanent, or ordinary dwellingplace or place of residence of a person, as distinguished form his temporary and transient, though actual, place of residence. It is his legal residence, as distinguished from his temporary place of abode; or his home, as distinguished from a place to which business or pleasure may temporarily call him. See also Abode; Residence.

"Citizenship," "habitancy," and "residence" are severally words which in particular cases may mean precisely the same as "domicile," while in other uses may have different meanings.

"Residence" signifies living in particular locality while "domicile" means living in that locality with intent to make it a fixed and permanent home. Schreiner v. Schreiner, Tex.Civ.App., 502 S.W.2d 840, 843.

For purpose of federal diversity jurisdiction, "citizenship" and "domicile" are synonymous. Hendry v. Masonite Corp., C.A.Miss., 455 F.2d 955.

[Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p. 485]

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