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Anonymous Coward User ID: 206814 United States 02/07/2008 03:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, OP, thanks for the reminder. To Bush, however, the Constitution (and the Bill of Rights for that matter) is apparently 'just a goddamn piece of paper'. Hmmm. Oh, and I think he wants to dictator too; probably before his term ends. The Patriot Act cancelled all Americans' rights. It just hasn't hit us hard enough yet before we will all notice. |
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mathetes User ID: 327572 United States 02/13/2008 06:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The word "rights" has become meaningless. True individual rights are inviolate. If I have the right to free speech, you have the right to free speech. My rights do not lessen or negate your rights. If I can assemble, you can assemble; if I can be armed, you can be armed; if my house is secure from warrantless searches, yours house is secure from warrantless searches, and so forth. Quoting: Play on words 74029Privileges are different. If I have the priviledge of free speech, you can tell me not to say things that bother you. If you have the priviledge to bear arms, I can tell you not to own scary looking ones that make me feel anxious. If I have the priviledge to be secure in my home against warrantless searches, you can perform "sneak and peek" secret raids, or tell me that since I live in a public housing, or am driving my car on a public road, you can search my apartment or vehicle anytime you decide. According to America's founders, human beings are endowed by our Creator with unalienable rights.[/b] The meaning of "unalienable" is "incapable of being alienated, surrendered or transferred." They are protected from the state under the U.S. Constitution. What has be done was a play on word to twist thing to state that "alienable" rights ie: priviledges granted by the state, that can legally and arbitrarily be taken away whenever the state decides there is "good" reason. So explain why you can't yell fire at a theatre? And this is not new, its freespeech right? For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 74029 United States 02/13/2008 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So explain why you can't yell fire at a theatre? And this is not new, its freespeech right? Quoting: matheteslet me put this is very simple terms for you, ever hear the saying "with great power comes great responsibility"? the vast majority would not yell such a thing if it were not true no one is saying that the person stating it should not be punished (accepting responsibility for their actions..which we see less and less of these days) no one implied that this is new, but most people do not understand the differences |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 367309 United States 02/13/2008 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The word "rights" has become meaningless. True individual rights are inviolate. If I have the right to free speech, you have the right to free speech. My rights do not lessen or negate your rights. If I can assemble, you can assemble; if I can be armed, you can be armed; if my house is secure from warrantless searches, yours house is secure from warrantless searches, and so forth. Quoting: mathetesPrivileges are different. If I have the priviledge of free speech, you can tell me not to say things that bother you. If you have the priviledge to bear arms, I can tell you not to own scary looking ones that make me feel anxious. If I have the priviledge to be secure in my home against warrantless searches, you can perform "sneak and peek" secret raids, or tell me that since I live in a public housing, or am driving my car on a public road, you can search my apartment or vehicle anytime you decide. According to America's founders, human beings are endowed by our Creator with unalienable rights.[/b] The meaning of "unalienable" is "incapable of being alienated, surrendered or transferred." They are protected from the state under the U.S. Constitution. What has be done was a play on word to twist thing to state that "alienable" rights ie: priviledges granted by the state, that can legally and arbitrarily be taken away whenever the state decides there is "good" reason. So explain why you can't yell fire at a theatre? And this is not new, its freespeech right? You can yell fire in a crowded theatre if there is indeed a fire. It is a free speech right. You could even do it if the theatre is empty and there is no fire without penalty; however, you cannot yell fire in a crowded theatre if there is no fire and doing so would cause panic leading to physical injury-- a foreseeable liability on your part demonstrating maliciousness based on misrepresentation. You can't make false statements against someone without penalty either for the same principles. Your argument is a common one, but based upon a false premise. |
mathetes User ID: 327572 United States 02/13/2008 08:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The word "rights" has become meaningless. True individual rights are inviolate. If I have the right to free speech, you have the right to free speech. My rights do not lessen or negate your rights. If I can assemble, you can assemble; if I can be armed, you can be armed; if my house is secure from warrantless searches, yours house is secure from warrantless searches, and so forth. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 367309Privileges are different. If I have the priviledge of free speech, you can tell me not to say things that bother you. If you have the priviledge to bear arms, I can tell you not to own scary looking ones that make me feel anxious. If I have the priviledge to be secure in my home against warrantless searches, you can perform "sneak and peek" secret raids, or tell me that since I live in a public housing, or am driving my car on a public road, you can search my apartment or vehicle anytime you decide. According to America's founders, human beings are endowed by our Creator with unalienable rights.[/b] The meaning of "unalienable" is "incapable of being alienated, surrendered or transferred." They are protected from the state under the U.S. Constitution. What has be done was a play on word to twist thing to state that "alienable" rights ie: priviledges granted by the state, that can legally and arbitrarily be taken away whenever the state decides there is "good" reason. So explain why you can't yell fire at a theatre? And this is not new, its freespeech right? You can yell fire in a crowded theatre if there is indeed a fire. It is a free speech right. You could even do it if the theatre is empty and there is no fire without penalty; however, you cannot yell fire in a crowded theatre if there is no fire and doing so would cause panic leading to physical injury-- a foreseeable liability on your part demonstrating maliciousness based on misrepresentation. You can't make false statements against someone without penalty either for the same principles. Your argument is a common one, but based upon a false premise. I agree 100% with demonstrating maliciousness based on misrepresentation. Therefore can you post incitement to murder or cause damage on the internet? And as far as "You can't make false statements against someone without penalty either for the same principles." You must be new here! LOL For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. |
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Well said indeed. User ID: 144085 United States 07/08/2011 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, OP, thanks for the reminder. To Bush, however, the Constitution (and the Bill of Rights for that matter) is apparently 'just a goddamn piece of paper'. Hmmm. Oh, and I think he wants to dictator too; probably before his term ends. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 206814The Patriot Act cancelled all Americans' rights. It just hasn't hit us hard enough yet before we will all notice. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51154614 United States 12/20/2013 08:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd like to see where it is in the Constitution that the government has any right to dole out privileges. Quoting: Will Our government is a corporation and they can make whatever corporate rules they want to (usually called statutes). The only way to get out from under their thumb is to stop being an agent/employee of the corporation, in other words, just quit (easier said than done). Get rid of all government numbers and i.d.s' and stop taking any of their benefits. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 51154614 United States 12/20/2013 09:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Domicile, a word of tyranny. domicile. A person's legal home. That place where a man has his true, fixed, and permanent home and principal establishment, and to which whenever he is absent he has the intention of returning. Smith v. Smith, 206 Pa.Super. 310, 213 A.2d 94. Generally, physical presence within a state and the intention to make it one's home are the requisites of establishing a "domicile" therein. The permanent residence of a person or the place to which he intends to return even though he may actually reside elsewhere. A person may have more than one residence but only one domicile. The legal domicile of a person is important since it, rather than the actual residence, often controls the jurisdiction of the taxing authorities and determines where a person may exercise the privilege of voting and other legal rights and privileges. The established, fixed, permanent, or ordinary dwellingplace or place of residence of a person, as distinguished form his temporary and transient, though actual, place of residence. It is his legal residence, as distinguished from his temporary place of abode; or his home, as distinguished from a place to which business or pleasure may temporarily call him. See also Abode; Residence. "Citizenship," "habitancy," and "residence" are severally words which in particular cases may mean precisely the same as "domicile," while in other uses may have different meanings. "Residence" signifies living in particular locality while "domicile" means living in that locality with intent to make it a fixed and permanent home. Schreiner v. Schreiner, Tex.Civ.App., 502 S.W.2d 840, 843. For purpose of federal diversity jurisdiction, "citizenship" and "domicile" are synonymous. Hendry v. Masonite Corp., C.A.Miss., 455 F.2d 955. [Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p. 485] |
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