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I got a letter in the mail saying that there will be a lien placed against all my real estate/personal property unless I pay $500 past child support.

I was recently fired from my job and have had trouble getting a new job. They don't seem to care though, they just want the money.

The thing is though, I just don't have any $ right now, no income or anything. I do support my children though and make sure they do have what they need when they are over at my house, which is about half the time. I guess I just don't understand why I have to pay when I don't get money for support when the kids are at my house. It just doesn't seem fair.

The support order was to be enforced if the mother is getting state benefits. She is no longer getting the benefits from the state, so does that mean i am off the hook? And I don't mean off the hook to support my children, but by legal means because I do care for the children half time, it's just that placement has been given to the mother for some reason. I never got to contest it, it seems like placement was given without me being able to contest it.
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You have to go to family court and request a modification based on that you lost your job. Don't ignore the order or a judge will issue a bench warrant for your ass.
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i'll be going, it's that much $ to be getting in trouble for
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dude r u insane ? you owe ARREARS!!. whether she is on welfare or not is irrelevant. They will seize your property unless you take your ass to court and file a petition w/ the court so they can assess your financial situation. And in the mean time, you still have to cough up the 500 cash or what you can do is hide your car and withdraw all your money from your acct. until you settle it with them

dude dont play with them. ive been there done that. u cannot win.
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I got a letter in the mail saying that there will be a lien placed against all my real estate/personal property unless I pay $500 past child support.

I was recently fired from my job and have had trouble getting a new job. They don't seem to care though, they just want the money.

The thing is though, I just don't have any $ right now, no income or anything. I do support my children though and make sure they do have what they need when they are over at my house, which is about half the time. I guess I just don't understand why I have to pay when I don't get money for support when the kids are at my house. It just doesn't seem fair.

The support order was to be enforced if the mother is getting state benefits. She is no longer getting the benefits from the state, so does that mean i am off the hook? And I don't mean off the hook to support my children, but by legal means because I do care for the children half time, it's just that placement has been given to the mother for some reason. I never got to contest it, it seems like placement was given without me being able to contest it.
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They cannot seize for 500.00, it has to be more than that 5,000.00 or so ...and they have to run a discovery to see if you infact have any assets that can be liquidated....this in extreme cases.


They cannot take your car, they cannot take your home, they can only take assets or items such a yaght or xtra land....

example 1: you own 1 home and 1 car necessary to live and support yourself

Exapmple 2 : You own 2 homes and 2 cars , as an individual, they lein 1 car and 1 home.


..the state will just take your taxes as first course of action.....Prperty seizure is last resort......

No, you are not off the hook....the state wants their money .....and will enforce current support for her ....and with thier 500.00 ....once the state gets thier money back....she can close the case if she wishes...and stop collecting on current support....if you are not working ..they can issue hardship and ask a minimal monthly amount

The state can issue a capias which is an arrest warrent for Child support. Inturn your bail amount can be set at 10-15% of the amount due ...then your on on CS probabtion and will have to pay somthing every month, and if defaulted go back to jail.

500.00 however, will not provoke these extreme actions, considering that the state many times will write off a balance off 175.00 or less. Just call them and set up a payment plan for like 50.00 a month....but word of advice ......dont avoid the agency they can and will ruin your life, with her help of course.

Chances are ...she did not tell them she recives any help from you, in order to receive benefits.

from now on, do not give her money directly, pay it through SDU ( child support payment system), for record. It will save your ass. NEVER do a direct pay ..if she gets mad at you and decides to try to come after you ...all the help you are providing now won't mean shit, she could come back and say you owe 5 years of arrearages ...then it's your word against hers.

hope this helps.
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yeah, feeling kinda helpless about this. i told them my tax refund will go to pay it off, that's fine with me.
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OP, you can't pay your child support BUT you can pay your internet bill? wtf bsflag
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not true, they infact can seize your car. they did it to me. If your car is equivalent to or less then that which you owe, they can seize it. Its considered property. Also the 500 dollar is not how much he owes. Its how much they want him to pay off as a first installment.


I got a letter in the mail saying that there will be a lien placed against all my real estate/personal property unless I pay $500 past child support.

I was recently fired from my job and have had trouble getting a new job. They don't seem to care though, they just want the money.

The thing is though, I just don't have any $ right now, no income or anything. I do support my children though and make sure they do have what they need when they are over at my house, which is about half the time. I guess I just don't understand why I have to pay when I don't get money for support when the kids are at my house. It just doesn't seem fair.

The support order was to be enforced if the mother is getting state benefits. She is no longer getting the benefits from the state, so does that mean i am off the hook? And I don't mean off the hook to support my children, but by legal means because I do care for the children half time, it's just that placement has been given to the mother for some reason. I never got to contest it, it seems like placement was given without me being able to contest it.



They cannot seize for 500.00, it has to be more than that 5,000.00 or so ...and they have to run a discovery to see if you infact have any assets that can be liquidated....this in extreme cases.


They cannot take your car, they cannot take your home, they can only take assets or items such a yaght or xtra land....

example 1: you own 1 home and 1 car necessary to live and support yourself

Exapmple 2 : You own 2 homes and 2 cars , as an individual, they lein 1 car and 1 home.


..the state will just take your taxes as first course of action.....Prperty seizure is last resort......

No, you are not off the hook....the state wants their money .....and will enforce current support for her ....and with thier 500.00 ....once the state gets thier money back....she can close the case if she wishes...and stop collecting on current support....if you are not working ..they can issue hardship and ask a minimal monthly amount

The state can issue a capias which is an arrest warrent for Child support. Inturn your bail amount can be set at 10-15% of the amount due ...then your on on CS probabtion and will have to pay somthing every month, and if defaulted go back to jail.

500.00 however, will not provoke these extreme actions, considering that the state many times will write off a balance off 175.00 or less. Just call them and set up a payment plan for like 50.00 a month....but word of advice ......dont avoid the agency they can and will ruin your life, with her help of course.

Chances are ...she did not tell them she recives any help from you, in order to receive benefits.

from now on, do not give her money directly, pay it through SDU ( child support payment system), for record. It will save your ass. NEVER do a direct pay ..if she gets mad at you and decides to try to come after you ...all the help you are providing now won't mean shit, she could come back and say you owe 5 years of arrearages ...then it's your word against hers.

hope this helps.
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rflol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




OP, you can't pay your child support BUT you can pay your internet bill? wtf bsflag
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for 500.00 bullshit
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just sign the house over to your ex wife so the govt cant use it against you
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do u have comprehension problem ? no one said that was the total amount he owed. Thast the amount they want from him as FIRST INSTALLMENT.


GET IT ?


for 500.00 bullshit
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His post says 500.00 ...not 50,000.00

I worked for the OAG for several years, before I came to the company I am at now, never in the history of the agency did we seize an NCPs only vehicle for 500.00 as stated.....suspeneded licenses, yes....IRS...yes...Payroll Writs...yes...property seizure.......no, not for 500.00 and we could not put NCPs on the street or take thier only vehicle...UNLESS it's in the divorce decree.

Now if his CSII is a huge amount of money and he has been avoiding this for a decade....they most likely issue a capias....considering he has no assets...

The only slight difference may be state regulations....but under the social security act thier are more acts that support the state codes.


GET IT.
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R U A FUCKING MORON OR JUST A CHIC!?


he said they want him to pay 500 bucks right! obviously a little amount like that could not warrant the seizure of assets and property. Which means its doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out 500 bucks is merely the first installment, to show good faith and put a halt to the seizure and go into a payment plan w/ gov'to pay off the arrears ballance.


u r a big fat joke jezabellla

His post says 500.00 ...not 50,000.00

I worked for the OAG for several years, before I came to the company I am at now, never in the history of the agency did we seize an NCPs only vehicle for 500.00 as stated.....suspeneded lisences, yes....IRS...yes...Payroll Writs...yes...property seizure.......no, not for 500.00 and we could not put NCPs on the street or take thier only vehicle...UNLESS it's in the divorce decree.


GET IT.
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Just pay the money. Sell something and pay up.

You are probably not telling us the whole story. Some deadbeat dads think that if they buy a box of diapers once in a while they are "supporting" their kids. Your wife has to pay rent EVERY SINGLE MONTH, so your little dribs and drabs don't count.

PAY THE MONEY you owe for YOUR children.
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i agree, i had to learn the hard way. pay the arrears and stop whining. as simple as that.


Just pay the money. Sell something and pay up.

You are probably not telling us the whole story. Some deadbeat dads think that if they buy a box of diapers once in a while they are "supporting" their kids. Your wife has to pay rent EVERY SINGLE MONTH, so your little dribs and drabs don't count.

PAY THE MONEY you owe for YOUR children.

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Putting a lein on your property is not the same as seizing your property. A lien simply allows them to use your house as collateral for the debt...it would take alot more than 500.00 to actually have them sieze your property to collect the debt....but I guess they could if they wanted to
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R U A FUCKING MORON OR JUST A CHIC!?


he said they want him to pay 500 bucks right! obviously a little amount like that could not warrant the seizure of assets and property. Which means its doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out 500 bucks is merely the first installment, to show good faith and put a halt to the seizure and go into a payment plan w/ gov'to pay off the arrears ballance.


u r a big fat joke jezabellla


His post says 500.00 ...not 50,000.00

I worked for the OAG for several years, before I came to the company I am at now, never in the history of the agency did we seize an NCPs only vehicle for 500.00 as stated.....suspeneded lisences, yes....IRS...yes...Payroll Writs...yes...property seizure.......no, not for 500.00 and we could not put NCPs on the street or take thier only vehicle...UNLESS it's in the divorce decree.


GET IT.

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haahaa ....its little fuckers like you I use to love seeing in court and taking all your petty worth!!!!!!

there is obviously things he is not saying inthis post agreed ...but going on what he said....
just providing helpful info ...

...deadbeat losers who can't hold onto a family like yourself ...will end up bitter and ultimatly screwed.....so he can take this knowledge and help himself in the long run or end up like you ...and internet bully with ....nothing but a mere pot to piss in a huge child support payment.....and a pathedic exsitance

..thats way to funny....you must have really fucked up your child support ....still tryin to hide???.....for a guy who claims to know so much....you sure got ripped a new one.... stupid man....hahaa...take care of your offspring jackass.

my point being if you let that CSII run up ...they will go through a serious of different efforts usaully to collect.....California and Texas ..usaully ....issue a capias after a while......property lein and seizure usally come with decrees and it has to be a lot of money ..........point being dont let it build.....get a job......and pay ....plain and simple....some people deserve to be fucked I guess.
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OP, you can't pay your child support BUT you can pay your internet bill? wtf bsflag
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Hey moron. Many professionals now need internet access, a phone, access to electricity and shelter in order to be gainfully employed.
Why not say, BUT you can afford clothing and food. WTF...

Abort yourself from the gene pool or crawl out of your Cro-Magnon attitudes.
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OP, you can't pay your child support BUT you can pay your internet bill? wtf bsflag
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it's free wireless internet, no BS here
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and its fucking baby mama bitches like you that makes us fathers wanna go on a killin spree and do the world a favor.





R U A FUCKING MORON OR JUST A CHIC!?


he said they want him to pay 500 bucks right! obviously a little amount like that could not warrant the seizure of assets and property. Which means its doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out 500 bucks is merely the first installment, to show good faith and put a halt to the seizure and go into a payment plan w/ gov'to pay off the arrears ballance.


u r a big fat joke jezabellla


His post says 500.00 ...not 50,000.00

I worked for the OAG for several years, before I came to the company I am at now, never in the history of the agency did we seize an NCPs only vehicle for 500.00 as stated.....suspeneded lisences, yes....IRS...yes...Payroll Writs...yes...property seizure.......no, not for 500.00 and we could not put NCPs on the street or take thier only vehicle...UNLESS it's in the divorce decree.


GET IT.



haahaa ....its little fuckers like you I use to love seeing in court and taking all your petty worth!!!!!!

there is obviously things he is not saying inthis post agreed ...but going on what he said....
just providing helpful info ...

...deadbeat losers who can't hold onto a family like yourself ...will end up bitter and ultimatly screwed.....so he can take this knowledge and help himself in the long run or end up like you ...and internet bully with ....nothing but a mere pot to piss in a huge child support payment.....and a pathedic exsitance

..thats way to funny....you must have really fucked up your child support ....still tryin to hide???.....for a guy who claims to know so much....you sure got ripped a new one.... stupid man....hahaa...take care of your offspring jackass.
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I owe a total of ONLY $500. This is just accrued from the past few months i have been without a job. I have been paying up until that point without any problems.
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and its fucking baby mama bitches like you that makes us fathers wanna go on a killin spree and do the world a favor.







R U A FUCKING MORON OR JUST A CHIC!?


he said they want him to pay 500 bucks right! obviously a little amount like that could not warrant the seizure of assets and property. Which means its doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out 500 bucks is merely the first installment, to show good faith and put a halt to the seizure and go into a payment plan w/ gov'to pay off the arrears ballance.


u r a big fat joke jezabellla


His post says 500.00 ...not 50,000.00

I worked for the OAG for several years, before I came to the company I am at now, never in the history of the agency did we seize an NCPs only vehicle for 500.00 as stated.....suspeneded lisences, yes....IRS...yes...Payroll Writs...yes...property seizure.......no, not for 500.00 and we could not put NCPs on the street or take thier only vehicle...UNLESS it's in the divorce decree.


GET IT.



haahaa ....its little fuckers like you I use to love seeing in court and taking all your petty worth!!!!!!

there is obviously things he is not saying inthis post agreed ...but going on what he said....
just providing helpful info ...

...deadbeat losers who can't hold onto a family like yourself ...will end up bitter and ultimatly screwed.....so he can take this knowledge and help himself in the long run or end up like you ...and internet bully with ....nothing but a mere pot to piss in a huge child support payment.....and a pathedic exsitance

..thats way to funny....you must have really fucked up your child support ....still tryin to hide???.....for a guy who claims to know so much....you sure got ripped a new one.... stupid man....hahaa...take care of your offspring jackass.

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how about just hacking off your penis and not letting you reproduce.
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Family Law and Child Support Laws are clearly a NWO directive designed to destroy any semblance of the family and the rights of parents to have some degree of sovereignty within their family.
Only an blood sucking, evil, greedy, family hater would sign an affidavit of paternity or fle a case in "family courts".
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just sign the house over to your ex wife so the govt cant use it against you
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It is an ex-girlfriend, never married. I do NOT have a car or any real estate.
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how about just hacking off your penis and not letting you reproduce.
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Shes got a point. If you have any sense at all, get a vasectomy now and never, ever, tell any woman you've had one.
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I owe a total of ONLY $500. This is just accrued from the past few months i have been without a job. I have been paying up until that point without any problems.
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thank you op...like I said ....for 500.00 you will be fine. contact the agency ...and let them know your status. 9 times out of 10 they will work with you for a small amount like this....don't aviod it ..if you keep them updated on your status...you will be fine.

They just want to make sure you are not avading.

try this website

[link to www.fathersrightsinc.com]

This is a great resource and can help.....they help advocate fathers dealing with the system.

They may be able to help you find pro-bono attorney resources.
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i c y yooure a nasty as lesbian. No man would want to deal w/ your bullshit.


and its fucking baby mama bitches like you that makes us fathers wanna go on a killin spree and do the world a favor.







R U A FUCKING MORON OR JUST A CHIC!?


he said they want him to pay 500 bucks right! obviously a little amount like that could not warrant the seizure of assets and property. Which means its doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out 500 bucks is merely the first installment, to show good faith and put a halt to the seizure and go into a payment plan w/ gov'to pay off the arrears ballance.


u r a big fat joke jezabellla


His post says 500.00 ...not 50,000.00

I worked for the OAG for several years, before I came to the company I am at now, never in the history of the agency did we seize an NCPs only vehicle for 500.00 as stated.....suspeneded lisences, yes....IRS...yes...Payroll Writs...yes...property seizure.......no, not for 500.00 and we could not put NCPs on the street or take thier only vehicle...UNLESS it's in the divorce decree.


GET IT.



haahaa ....its little fuckers like you I use to love seeing in court and taking all your petty worth!!!!!!

there is obviously things he is not saying inthis post agreed ...but going on what he said....
just providing helpful info ...

...deadbeat losers who can't hold onto a family like yourself ...will end up bitter and ultimatly screwed.....so he can take this knowledge and help himself in the long run or end up like you ...and internet bully with ....nothing but a mere pot to piss in a huge child support payment.....and a pathedic exsitance

..thats way to funny....you must have really fucked up your child support ....still tryin to hide???.....for a guy who claims to know so much....you sure got ripped a new one.... stupid man....hahaa...take care of your offspring jackass.



how about just hacking off your penis and not letting you reproduce.
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I owe a total of ONLY $500. This is just accrued from the past few months i have been without a job. I have been paying up until that point without any problems.
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Just so everyone gets the message.
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youre lying OP. 500 for a few months would mean you were paying as little as 100/month or 25 bucks a week. And you expect us to believe that ?


I owe a total of ONLY $500. This is just accrued from the past few months i have been without a job. I have been paying up until that point without any problems.
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They will make you pay if they think you owe it. Whether you do owe it or not doesn't matter.

I was there. I paid every penny they demanded for as long as I was legally required to. Even got my last two payments back.

It's wrong, unfair, evil, and asinine. Men are totally at the court's mercy and justice is a dirty word there. There is no choice and no escape. Even in death you will have to pay. There is no nation you can flee to and no statute of limitations. Bankruptcy and bad health are no excuse. Not even being in prison.

The child support system is the worst thing you can deal with other than child protection. Both are utterly corrupt and are nothing more than the most intimate of government's intrusions onto our very core liberties.

I will laugh heartily and happily the day the system crashes and no more orders are enforced or brought.

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