Back Child Support=Seizure of Property?? Help

They will make you pay if they think you owe it. Whether you do owe it or not doesn't matter.

I was there. I paid every penny they demanded for as long as I was legally required to. Even got my last two payments back.

It's wrong, unfair, evil, and asinine. Men are totally at the court's mercy and justice is a dirty word there. There is no choice and no escape. Even in death you will have to pay. There is no nation you can flee to and no statute of limitations. Bankruptcy and bad health are no excuse. Not even being in prison.

The child support system is the worst thing you can deal with other than child protection. Both are utterly corrupt and are nothing more than the most intimate of government's intrusions onto our very core liberties.

I will laugh heartily and happily the day the system crashes and no more orders are enforced or brought.

my ex husband owes over 9 thousand at this point.
hes a beach bum who is in and out of jail constantly.
he lost his license years ago for dui anyway and for all i know they cant get blood from a stone.
if he has nothing they can take nothing... but his freedom.
doesnt help these two kids ...so i dont expect anything to come from him.
ive given up expecting any help from him.

he did tell me once if i ever left him not to expect any child support.

I got a letter in the mail saying that there will be a lien placed against all my real estate/personal property unless I pay $500 past child support.

I was recently fired from my job and have had trouble getting a new job. They don't seem to care though, they just want the money.

The thing is though, I just don't have any $ right now, no income or anything. I do support my children though and make sure they do have what they need when they are over at my house, which is about half the time. I guess I just don't understand why I have to pay when I don't get money for support when the kids are at my house. It just doesn't seem fair.

The support order was to be enforced if the mother is getting state benefits. She is no longer getting the benefits from the state, so does that mean i am off the hook? And I don't mean off the hook to support my children, but by legal means because I do care for the children half time, it's just that placement has been given to the mother for some reason. I never got to contest it, it seems like placement was given without me being able to contest it.

my ex husband owes over 9 thousand at this point.
hes a beach bum who is in and out of jail constantly.
he lost his license years ago for dui anyway and for all i know they cant get blood from a stone.
if he has nothing they can take nothing... but his freedom.
doesnt help these two kids ...so i dont expect anything to come from him.
ive given up expecting any help from him.

he did tell me once if i ever left him not to expect any child support.


Let me get this straight... you married a jail-bird, alcoholic, Beach Bum... and you were stupid enough to breed with this person, and after the fact you blame him for your inability to support your own offspring.

Woman, you are the deadbeat. You have no right to have children if you can't take care of them. BIMBO!

Hold on - BOTH parents are responsible...no need for name calling.

Well, darlin', he told you - gave you fair warning. I guess there's nothing to do except get to work and take care of yours.

So buck up, buckle down and get it done...and stay single until those babies are grown. Don't put them through hell. Work hard and be a good mom. It CAN be done.

Best of luck to you.

in pa, when you go thru a divorce and children are involved they give you this BS that child support is the law. they configure both parents incomes together. the non custodial parent then pays support and provides health insurance.

my ex had to pay me 450 a month for 2 kids, predicated upon that 'system'. he couldnt afford rent/utils/car pmt, insurance, gas, food, cable, phone, health ins, etc on his 14.00 hr job.

he quit his job thinking it would get him out of paying. he tried modifications but was still required to pay. when he didnt/couldnt they were going to toss him in jail for over 5k in arrears, suspend his license etc.

i called the child support enforcement bureau and i WITHDREW the order. the caseworker tried to tell me it was against the law - that i couldnt do it. i demanded the arrears be abated - DONE over the phone, tho reluctantly. i then informed her after she abated the 5k plus, if support was the 'law' then she just violated it by abating the 5k, now she HAD to withdraw the order for support. i didnt have to go to court, it was done by written fax. dauphin county pa.

i dont believe a man should be raped by child support, especially if he has a new family. but i DO believe he should take care of his kids too. it took '2' to make them.

i havent received child support (except the 5 pmts initially made back in 04) but he has helped since the order was rescinded. (not consistently but when i ask him to buy them school cloths/supplies annually, he does)

fyi: i have never been on welfare so, my case is different. when the govt is funding the custodial parent, you bet your ass they'll ensure they get the money from the non custodial parent.

OP, try modifications of the order - if that fails go down to legal aid, get a free atty and they should be able to get a reduction or reduced settlement for you. i wish you well.

I got a letter in the mail saying that there will be a lien placed against all my real estate/personal property unless I pay $500 past child support.

I was recently fired from my job and have had trouble getting a new job. They don't seem to care though, they just want the money.

The thing is though, I just don't have any $ right now, no income or anything. I do support my children though and make sure they do have what they need when they are over at my house, which is about half the time. I guess I just don't understand why I have to pay when I don't get money for support when the kids are at my house. It just doesn't seem fair.

The support order was to be enforced if the mother is getting state benefits. She is no longer getting the benefits from the state, so does that mean i am off the hook? And I don't mean off the hook to support my children, but by legal means because I do care for the children half time, it's just that placement has been given to the mother for some reason. I never got to contest it, it seems like placement was given without me being able to contest it.



They cannot seize for 500.00, it has to be more than that 5,000.00 or so ...and they have to run a discovery to see if you infact have any assets that can be liquidated....this in extreme cases.


They cannot take your car, they cannot take your home, they can only take assets or items such a yaght or xtra land....

example 1: you own 1 home and 1 car necessary to live and support yourself

Exapmple 2 : You own 2 homes and 2 cars , as an individual, they lein 1 car and 1 home.


..the state will just take your taxes as first course of action.....Prperty seizure is last resort......

No, you are not off the hook....the state wants their money .....and will enforce current support for her ....and with thier 500.00 ....once the state gets thier money back....she can close the case if she wishes...and stop collecting on current support....if you are not working ..they can issue hardship and ask a minimal monthly amount

The state can issue a capias which is an arrest warrent for Child support. Inturn your bail amount can be set at 10-15% of the amount due ...then your on on CS probabtion and will have to pay somthing every month, and if defaulted go back to jail.

500.00 however, will not provoke these extreme actions, considering that the state many times will write off a balance off 175.00 or less. Just call them and set up a payment plan for like 50.00 a month....but word of advice ......dont avoid the agency they can and will ruin your life, with her help of course.

Chances are ...she did not tell them she recives any help from you, in order to receive benefits.

from now on, do not give her money directly, pay it through SDU ( child support payment system), for record. It will save your ass. NEVER do a direct pay ..if she gets mad at you and decides to try to come after you ...all the help you are providing now won't mean shit, she could come back and say you owe 5 years of arrearages ...then it's your word against hers.

hope this helps.

gals guys get fixed it protects your future incomes .you are financially responsable for you .. women wake up; cause mariages are not a guarantee .u get stuck supporting you kid all alone for long periods while u wait for support checks, which usually are not enought to even pay the day care bills . get fixed .. it is the only way you can guarantee you future income . .most divorced moms see a big drop in thier standard of liv ing for many years, most women damm near hit poverty and stay there for long periods of time, kids are a 20 year long huge financial and physical responsability for a mom ...just ask most devorced women or unwed moms how hard it is to even survive . day care for an enfant is $700.00 a month alone. add food meds diapers clothing exyra bedroom extra utilities for extra bedroom time missed from work for sick child gas to and from childcare ..the miscilanious expense list to care for one enfant, is just endless for a mom..

OP, save yourself a lot of grief. Borrow $500 from one of the families who are helping you and your ex girlfriend take care of this child and get current again. Your family will take payments you can afford and the arrears will not accumulate.

I'm not clear on how they can file a lien against you when you don't own property or have a car.

Since you are able and willing to work but having a difficult time finding a job, which is understandable, do go to court and let them help you get in a job program which will give you further education and training and help you find one. The fact is, the courts are more than happy to work with a man who is not a deadbeat but has fallen into genuine difficult circumstances.

Legally and morally supporting the children you create is indeed your fincial responsibility. Period. It is not an attempt to bleed you dry or torture you in some kind of fascist state. You didn't take responsibility for preventing the pregnancies, now you are responsible for the consequences of that choice.

And guys, if you don't like the idea of having to chip in to help support the babies you create, then keep your dicks in your pants or YOU take responsibility for birth control. Grow the fuck up. Who raised you? You think they raised you on nothing?

Just pay the money. Sell something and pay up.

You are probably not telling us the whole story. Some deadbeat dads think that if they buy a box of diapers once in a while they are "supporting" their kids. Your wife has to pay rent EVERY SINGLE MONTH, so your little dribs and drabs don't count.

PAY THE MONEY you owe for YOUR children.



I so agree with you!! these fathers say they dont have a job and can not support their kids but the custodial parent.. job or not has to take care of the children.. Children eat daily, need a home, utilities, clothes, medicine, doc visits... so on... DAILY... EVEN IF THE MOM IS OUT OF WORK... THEY STILL EAT SO WHAT GIVES THEM THE RIGHT TO THINK JUST BECAUSE THEY LOST THEIR JOB THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO FEED THEIR KIDS!! UGH

youre lying OP. 500 for a few months would mean you were paying as little as 100/month or 25 bucks a week. And you expect us to believe that ?



I owe a total of ONLY $500. This is just accrued from the past few months i have been without a job. I have been paying up until that point without any problems.



the total is $515, if I had a scanner I would post it here. I pay $52 a week. I know that's not alot and many people pay more. I can pay this and have for 13 years. We are not talking babies here. I am involved in the kids life on a daily basis. I do have another order for my other child too who is 10 (diff mom)

The problem is that I can't find a job because I have bad credit, bad work history etc. I am looking for work and have had some decent jobs. I just lack proper education & training.