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"Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."

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heres the fuck off story of the year


Should we be taxed for eating animals?

CliMeat Change

FEBRUARY 6, 2008
BY STRATTON LAWRENCE
[link to www.charlestoncitypaper.com]


For those attending any of the presidential candidates' major events last month, it was hard to miss the pigs. Outside of nearly every rally and campaign stop across the state, you could find members of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) dressed in bright pink pig costumes, handing out buttons and literature emblazoned with the slogan "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."

"Every time someone sits down to a steak dinner, they're basically doing the equivalent environmental damage of taking a very long journey in a Hummer," says Ashley Byrne, a coordinator for PETA's campaign. "One pound of meat is equivalent to driving about 40 miles in a big SUV."

That's surprising to most, but it's true. The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization found in 2006 that livestock production generates 18 percent of greenhouse gases worldwide — more than the entire transportation sector of cars, trucks, planes, and ships combined. Cows constantly belch methane from their four stomachs, and lagoons of pig effluent release the gas into the air. Much of the world's beef comes from deforested areas (70 percent of former Amazon rainforest is now used for cattle grazing), a one-two punch from the loss of carbon dioxide-absorbing trees and the addition of more animals.

Meat and dairy production is predicted by the U.N. to double in the next 40 years, a growth PETA feels could be abated by a 10-cent tax on each pound of meat. Chicken is less of a global warming culprit than beef, which produces eight pounds of CO2 per pound of flesh, but meat tax advocates favor a flat charge across all varieties, citing heightened health risks (and subsequent costs) from consuming any factory-raised animals. They compare the idea to "sin taxes" like those placed on tobacco, alcohol, and gasoline for their costly effect on the environment and public health. The revenue generated, they propose, would be used for education.

"Even though the average American adult would only pay $20 more per year with this tax, it would encourage reduced meat consumption," says PETA's Byrne. "That could save a family thousands in health care costs."

Good Meat?

With its forest of free-roaming pigs who never see a needle or an antibiotic in their feed, Caw Caw Creek Farms, just outside of Columbia, is the antithesis of a crowded factory meat facility. Emile DeFelice "slow raises" the organic heirloom hogs, and he isn't convinced a tax would curb meat consumption. "Gas prices have doubled recently, with little effect on driving habits," he says. "And trying to compare meat to tobacco doesn't work. All cigarettes are bad, but all meat is not bad."

DeFelice is highly critical of the factory system, but believes the solution is in repealing subsidies rather than creating a new tax. "As long as the federal government continues to subsidize corn and soy, the backbone of this industry, then we'll continue to have artificially cheap animal food," DeFelice says. "When you pay your bill at the grocery store, you don't stop paying there. We pay for that food in energy, health care, and the destruction of world communities whose agriculture-based economies can't compete with our subsidies." (Surplus food from the U.S. makes growing crops like corn uneconomical in Mexico and many third-world countries).

Sustainable agriculture requires livestock to provide manure as fertilizer, DeFelice points out, and our current system of plant production relies on petroleum-based fertilizers and pesticides. "It's not as if growing plants doesn't have its component of climate effects," he says.

The corporate meat industry understandably isn't jumping on board with the tax idea either. Cindy Cunningham, a spokesperson for the National Pork Board, doesn't argue with the statistics indicting meat as responsible for climate change, but says new developments in pork production are geared toward reducing its impact.

"Our producers are good stewards of the land, including managing water, manure, and odor," says Cunningham. "A lot of our (pig waste) lagoons are covered, and the methane is captured and turned into electricity. In the pork industry, we talk about using all parts of the pig — everything but the oink."

Pork Board officials couldn't provide a statistic on the percentage of lagoons using methane capturing technology — it's a new practice spurned by legislation in states like North Carolina, where industrial hog farms have devastated river water quality and surrounding communities.

The U.N.'s 2006 report concluded that the meat industry is "one of the most significant contributors to the most serious environmental problems, at every scale from local to global," and that eating meat contributes to "problems of land degradation, climate change and air pollution, water shortage and water pollution, and loss of biodiversity."

But the S.C. Department of Agriculture isn't ready to publicly acknowledge the connection. "Meat is a very important part of a healthy diet, and we encourage people to eat healthy — that's all I have to say," says Becky Walton, spokesperson for the state agency. Our state produces around 225,000 cows and 205 million chickens each year — poultry is our largest agricultural export. And judging by our obesity levels, Whopper consumption isn't hurting either.

So What's for Dinner?

"I call the pig an omnivore with no dilemma, but we humans have a dilemma," says hog farmer DeFelice. "My pigs taste great, but you ought not to eat 21 servings a week either. The proper diet is to eat good food, not eat too much, and to eat mostly plants."

Although it'll require the government to repeal the subsidies that favor growing plants for animal rather than human consumption, a responsible diet appears to be the simplest and most effective way individual, concerned citizens can help the environment and reduce their carbon footprint. Can't afford a Prius? The University of Chicago found that switching to a vegan diet is 50 percent more effective at fighting global warming than trading in a standard car for a hybrid.

"I think that people are very happy to hear that there's something they can be doing on a daily basis that makes a big difference, without having to make a big investment," says PETA's Byrne.

So can there be such thing as a meat-eating environmentalist? Even if cutting out burgers and barbeque altogether isn't on the menu, for the conservation-minded, limiting meat consumption might be a sensible approach. Otherwise, the spiteful glare thus far reserved for Hummer drivers may soon come the way of the diner ordering a T-bone.


GO FUCK OFF, GLOBAL WARMINMG IS A FRAUD, JUST LIKE PETA
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 52939
2/9/2008 12:20 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

It's winter time in the Northern Hemisphere. I wouldn't mind a little global warming at this time. In fact it was a nice 60 degrees in Northern California today.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 370550 (OP)
2/9/2008 12:23 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

where I live its currently -50 below zero

no joke
Watcher
User ID: 364385
2/9/2008 12:25 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

Back as far as the 1960's there was discussion about leveraging more taxation under the guise of "global warming", which is only now beginning to really branch out in the public light. Before you know it, everything you transact will have additional "green" taxes applied that offset any lack of increase of state or federal taxes that the public at large is so concerned with.
Mr. Predictor SubscriberModerator
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2/9/2008 12:26 AM
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you will take my bacon when you pry it from my cold dead hands
those who beat their swords into plowshares will find themselves plowing for those who don't
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 370550 (OP)
2/9/2008 12:32 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

The Sun Also Sets

Climate Change: Not every scientist is part of Al Gore's mythical "consensus." Scientists worried about a new ice age seek funding to better observe something bigger than your SUV — the sun.

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:20 PM [link to ibdeditorial.com]


Back in 1991, before Al Gore first shouted that the Earth was in the balance, the Danish Meteorological Institute released a study using data that went back centuries that showed that global temperatures closely tracked solar cycles.

To many, those data were convincing. Now, Canadian scientists are seeking additional funding for more and better "eyes" with which to observe our sun, which has a bigger impact on Earth's climate than all the tailpipes and smokestacks on our planet combined.

And they're worried about global cooling, not warming.

Kenneth Tapping, a solar researcher and project director for Canada's National Research Council, is among those looking at the sun for evidence of an increase in sunspot activity.

Solar activity fluctuates in an 11-year cycle. But so far in this cycle, the sun has been disturbingly quiet. The lack of increased activity could signal the beginning of what is known as a Maunder Minimum, an event which occurs every couple of centuries and can last as long as a century.

Such an event occurred in the 17th century. The observation of sunspots showed extraordinarily low levels of magnetism on the sun, with little or no 11-year cycle.

This solar hibernation corresponded with a period of bitter cold that began around 1650 and lasted, with intermittent spikes of warming, until 1715. Frigid winters and cold summers during that period led to massive crop failures, famine and death in Northern Europe.

Tapping reports no change in the sun's magnetic field so far this cycle and warns that if the sun remains quiet for another year or two, it may indicate a repeat of that period of drastic cooling of the Earth, bringing massive snowfall and severe weather to the Northern Hemisphere.

Tapping oversees the operation of a 60-year-old radio telescope that he calls a "stethoscope for the sun." But he and his colleagues need better equipment.

In Canada, where radio-telescopic monitoring of the sun has been conducted since the end of World War II, a new instrument, the next-generation solar flux monitor, could measure the sun's emissions more rapidly and accurately.

As we have noted many times, perhaps the biggest impact on the Earth's climate over time has been the sun.

For instance, researchers at the Max Planck Institute for Solar Research in Germany report the sun has been burning more brightly over the last 60 years, accounting for the 1 degree Celsius increase in Earth's temperature over the last 100 years.

R. Timothy Patterson, professor of geology and director of the Ottawa-Carleton Geoscience Center of Canada's Carleton University, says that "CO2 variations show little correlation with our planet's climate on long, medium and even short time scales."

Rather, he says, "I and the first-class scientists I work with are consistently finding excellent correlations between the regular fluctuations of the sun and earthly climate. This is not surprising. The sun and the stars are the ultimate source of energy on this planet."

Patterson, sharing Tapping's concern, says: "Solar scientists predict that, by 2020, the sun will be starting into its weakest Schwabe cycle of the past two centuries, likely leading to unusually cool conditions on Earth."

"Solar activity has overpowered any effect that CO2 has had before, and it most likely will again," Patterson says. "If we were to have even a medium-sized solar minimum, we could be looking at a lot more bad effects than 'global warming' would have had."

In 2005, Russian astronomer Khabibullo Abdusamatov made some waves — and not a few enemies in the global warming "community" — by predicting that the sun would reach a peak of activity about three years from now, to be accompanied by "dramatic changes" in temperatures.

A Hoover Institution Study a few years back examined historical data and came to a similar conclusion.

"The effects of solar activity and volcanoes are impossible to miss. Temperatures fluctuated exactly as expected, and the pattern was so clear that, statistically, the odds of the correlation existing by chance were one in 100," according to Hoover fellow Bruce Berkowitz.

The study says that "try as we might, we simply could not find any relationship between industrial activity, energy consumption and changes in global temperatures."

The study concludes that if you shut down all the world's power plants and factories, "there would not be much effect on temperatures."

But if the sun shuts down, we've got a problem. It is the sun, not the Earth, that's hanging in the balance.
picesnator
User ID: 318318
2/9/2008 12:38 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

okay.....livestock produces methane....we get rid of the livestock....we are left....what is our methane output???? need i go further??
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 370550 (OP)
2/9/2008 12:41 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

methane dosen't warm the fucking planet, geez

the sun does
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 128638
2/9/2008 12:43 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

The Sun Also Sets

Climate Change: Not every scientist is part of Al Gore's mythical "consensus." Scientists worried about a new ice age seek funding to better observe something bigger than your SUV — the sun.

By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:20 PM [link to ibdeditorial.com]

Solar activity fluctuates in an 11-year cycle. But so far in this cycle, the sun has been disturbingly quiet. The lack of increased activity could signal the beginning of what is known as a Maunder Minimum, an event which occurs every couple of centuries and can last as long as a century.

Such an event occurred in the 17th century. The observation of sunspots showed extraordinarily low levels of magnetism on the sun, with little or no 11-year cycle.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 370550

Good read, thanks OP
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 128638
2/9/2008 12:44 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

methane dosen't warm the fucking planet, geez

the sun does
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 370550

Not by us, but if the Earth warmed enough there would be a disturbingly large amount of methane released at a rapid rate.
TruthSeeker7
User ID: 370251
2/9/2008 12:50 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

methane dosen't warm the fucking planet, geez

the sun does

Not by us, but if the Earth warmed enough there would be a disturbingly large amount of methane released at a rapid rate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 128638


The sun plays a part, but only a minimal role -- perhaps 10%.

Read this article. It will probably surprise you:

Rearing cattle produces more greenhouse gases than driving cars, UN report warns

29 November 2006 – Cattle-rearing generates more global warming greenhouse gases, as measured in CO2 equivalent, than transportation, and smarter production methods, including improved animal diets to reduce enteric fermentation and consequent methane emissions, are urgently needed, according to a new United Nations report released today.

“Livestock are one of the most significant contributors to today’s most serious environmental problems,” senior UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) official Henning Steinfeld said. “Urgent action is required to remedy the situation.”

Cattle-rearing is also a major source of land and water degradation, according to the FAO report, Livestock’s Long Shadow–Environmental Issues and Options, of which Mr. Steinfeld is the senior author.

“The environmental costs per unit of livestock production must be cut by one half, just to avoid the level of damage worsening beyond its present level,” it warns.

When emissions from land use and land use change are included, the livestock sector accounts for 9 per cent of CO2 deriving from human-related activities, but produces a much larger share of even more harmful greenhouse gases. It generates 65 per cent of human-related nitrous oxide, which has 296 times the Global Warming Potential (GWP) of CO2. Most of this comes from manure.

And it accounts for respectively 37 per cent of all human-induced methane (23 times as warming as CO2), which is largely produced by the digestive system of ruminants, and 64 per cent of ammonia, which contributes significantly to acid rain.

With increased prosperity, people are consuming more meat and dairy products every year, the report notes. Global meat production is projected to more than double from 229 million tonnes in 1999/2001 to 465 million tonnes in 2050, while milk output is set to climb from 580 to 1043 million tonnes.

The global livestock sector is growing faster than any other agricultural sub-sector. It provides livelihoods to about 1.3 billion people and contributes about 40 per cent to global agricultural output. For many poor farmers in developing countries livestock are also a source of renewable energy for draft and an essential source of organic fertilizer for their crops.

Livestock now use 30 per cent of the earth’s entire land surface, mostly permanent pasture but also including 33 per cent of the global arable land used to producing feed for livestock, the report notes. As forests are cleared to create new pastures, it is a major driver of deforestation, especially in Latin America where, for example, some 70 per cent of former forests in the Amazon have been turned over to grazing.

At the same time herds cause wide-scale land degradation, with about 20 per cent of pastures considered degraded through overgrazing, compaction and erosion. This figure is even higher in the drylands where inappropriate policies and inadequate livestock management contribute to advancing desertification.

The livestock business is among the most damaging sectors to the earth’s increasingly scarce water resources, contributing among other things to water pollution from animal wastes, antibiotics and hormones, chemicals from tanneries, fertilizers and the pesticides used to spray feed crops.

Beyond improving animal diets, proposed remedies to the multiple problems include soil conservation methods together with controlled livestock exclusion from sensitive areas; setting up biogas plant initiatives to recycle manure; improving efficiency of irrigation systems; and introducing full-cost pricing for water together with taxes to discourage large-scale livestock concentration close to cities.

[link to www.un.org]
Mr. Predictor SubscriberModerator
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2/9/2008 12:51 AM
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what about banning beans ????
those who beat their swords into plowshares will find themselves plowing for those who don't
Awakened Me
User ID: 349213
2/9/2008 12:54 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

FUCK PETA!

by the same reasoning as they came to their meat tax with, i say we should tax them for releasing greenhouses while they breath.



and not only do they cause greenhouse gasses... but they also cause massive psychological damage to anyone they come in contact with... luckily its usually only headaches
I WILL NOT let consequences dictate my course of action!

A.K.A - Aresh, Awakened Me, An Ominous Coward (Howard), The Goddess Pandora, Aumon Haht Fith Ashai, Within The Flower and a few others...
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 370550 (OP)
2/9/2008 12:54 AM
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lol, thks for the input,, but since when does a UN report have any credibility?


they can't control the sun, but they can try and control how you think

badda bing
TruthSeeker7
User ID: 370251
2/9/2008 12:58 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

lol, thks for the input,, but since when does a UN report have any credibility?

badda bing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 370550


Then do your own research. I think the report makes sense. Others have concluded similarly.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368828
2/9/2008 5:47 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

don't need to

anything the UN says its always the oppisite

simple, they do the research for me...


but I wouldn't exspect you lowers to understand reality

NEXT
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 362946
2/9/2008 5:50 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

heres the fuck off story of the year
 Quoting: fuckPETA 370550


It's early yet.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333742
2/9/2008 6:16 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

God, people who try to change the world and force their petty views onto everybody else are just fucking annoying all around.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 347085
2/9/2008 6:34 AM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

Why don't they go whine about the carbon produced by the fermentation of corn for ethanol.

Fucking tards using BS global warming to lever their cause.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368828
2/9/2008 2:43 PM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

too bad the UN's pollution laws don't apply to airplanes


hmmm, I wonder why

I know why, do you?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 370516
2/9/2008 3:04 PM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

HAHA!
anonanon
User ID: 272356
2/9/2008 3:14 PM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

A far better idea would be to tax births and children starting on the 3rd child a man or a woman has. And double the tax on those with over 5 children.

Nobody will say you can't have more children than that, just that every year until they are 18, you will have to really pay up to do it. Maybe that might break some of the religious and cultural taboos against birth control measures that exist in the most overpopulated countries of the world.

The money would go into a giant alternative fuels research project like developing safe hydrogen fuel engines and also developing cold fusion. We have the theoretical basis for these things, what we do not have is the research and development and the technology for them.

Of course we have global warming. The human population has doubled in 40 years which means there are 3 billion more people exhaling carbon dioxide and methane gases out the other end.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 333742
2/9/2008 3:16 PM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

nice idea, but it won't work unless we seal up the mexican border and place troops to patrol it.

Mexicans will simply take over the country if legal citizens are limited to the number of children while they can breed like rabbits, the age of consent being 12 and all down there.
Sid
User ID: 370885
2/9/2008 3:47 PM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

heres the fuck off story of the year


Should we be taxed for eating animals?

CliMeat Change

FEBRUARY 6, 2008
BY STRATTON LAWRENCE
[link to www.charlestoncitypaper.com]


For those attending any of the presidential candidates' major events last month, it was hard to miss the pigs. Outside of nearly every rally and campaign stop across the state, you could find members of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) dressed in bright pink pig costumes, handing out buttons and literature emblazoned with the slogan "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."

"Every time someone sits down to a steak dinner, they're basically doing the equivalent environmental damage of taking a very long journey in a Hummer," says Ashley Byrne, a coordinator for PETA's campaign. "One pound of meat is equivalent to driving about 40 miles in a big SUV."

That's surprising to most, but it's true. The United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization found in 2006 that livestock production generates 18 percent of greenhouse gases worldwide — more than the entire transportation sector of cars, trucks, planes, and ships combined. Cows constantly belch methane from their four stomachs, and lagoons of pig effluent release the gas into the air. Much of the world's beef comes from deforested areas (70 percent of former Amazon rainforest is now used for cattle grazing), a one-two punch from the loss of carbon dioxide-absorbing trees and the addition of more animals.

Meat and dairy production is predicted by the U.N. to double in the next 40 years, a growth PETA feels could be abated by a 10-cent tax on each pound of meat. Chicken is less of a global warming culprit than beef, which produces eight pounds of CO2 per pound of flesh, but meat tax advocates favor a flat charge across all varieties, citing heightened health risks (and subsequent costs) from consuming any factory-raised animals. They compare the idea to "sin taxes" like those placed on tobacco, alcohol, and gasoline for their costly effect on the environment and public health. The revenue generated, they propose, would be used for education.

"Even though the average American adult would only pay $20 more per year with this tax, it would encourage reduced meat consumption," says PETA's Byrne. "That could save a family thousands in health care costs."

Good Meat?

With its forest of free-roaming pigs who never see a needle or an antibiotic in their feed, Caw Caw Creek Farms, just outside of Columbia, is the antithesis of a crowded factory meat facility. Emile DeFelice "slow raises" the organic heirloom hogs, and he isn't convinced a tax would curb meat consumption. "Gas prices have doubled recently, with little effect on driving habits," he says. "And trying to compare meat to tobacco doesn't work. All cigarettes are bad, but all meat is not bad."

DeFelice is highly critical of the factory system, but believes the solution is in repealing subsidies rather than creating a new tax. "As long as the federal government continues to subsidize corn and soy, the backbone of this industry, then we'll continue to have artificially cheap animal food," DeFelice says. "When you pay your bill at the grocery store, you don't stop paying there. We pay for that food in energy, health care, and the destruction of world communities whose agriculture-based economies can't compete with our subsidies." (Surplus food from the U.S. makes growing crops like corn uneconomical in Mexico and many third-world countries).

Sustainable agriculture requires livestock to provide manure as fertilizer, DeFelice points out, and our current system of plant production relies on petroleum-based fertilizers and pesticides. "It's not as if growing plants doesn't have its component of climate effects," he says.

The corporate meat industry understandably isn't jumping on board with the tax idea either. Cindy Cunningham, a spokesperson for the National Pork Board, doesn't argue with the statistics indicting meat as responsible for climate change, but says new developments in pork production are geared toward reducing its impact.

"Our producers are good stewards of the land, including managing water, manure, and odor," says Cunningham. "A lot of our (pig waste) lagoons are covered, and the methane is captured and turned into electricity. In the pork industry, we talk about using all parts of the pig — everything but the oink."

Pork Board officials couldn't provide a statistic on the percentage of lagoons using methane capturing technology — it's a new practice spurned by legislation in states like North Carolina, where industrial hog farms have devastated river water quality and surrounding communities.

The U.N.'s 2006 report concluded that the meat industry is "one of the most significant contributors to the most serious environmental problems, at every scale from local to global," and that eating meat contributes to "problems of land degradation, climate change and air pollution, water shortage and water pollution, and loss of biodiversity."

But the S.C. Department of Agriculture isn't ready to publicly acknowledge the connection. "Meat is a very important part of a healthy diet, and we encourage people to eat healthy — that's all I have to say," says Becky Walton, spokesperson for the state agency. Our state produces around 225,000 cows and 205 million chickens each year — poultry is our largest agricultural export. And judging by our obesity levels, Whopper consumption isn't hurting either.

So What's for Dinner?

"I call the pig an omnivore with no dilemma, but we humans have a dilemma," says hog farmer DeFelice. "My pigs taste great, but you ought not to eat 21 servings a week either. The proper diet is to eat good food, not eat too much, and to eat mostly plants."

Although it'll require the government to repeal the subsidies that favor growing plants for animal rather than human consumption, a responsible diet appears to be the simplest and most effective way individual, concerned citizens can help the environment and reduce their carbon footprint. Can't afford a Prius? The University of Chicago found that switching to a vegan diet is 50 percent more effective at fighting global warming than trading in a standard car for a hybrid.

"I think that people are very happy to hear that there's something they can be doing on a daily basis that makes a big difference, without having to make a big investment," says PETA's Byrne.

So can there be such thing as a meat-eating environmentalist? Even if cutting out burgers and barbeque altogether isn't on the menu, for the conservation-minded, limiting meat consumption might be a sensible approach. Otherwise, the spiteful glare thus far reserved for Hummer drivers may soon come the way of the diner ordering a T-bone.


GO FUCK OFF, GLOBAL WARMINMG IS A FRAUD, JUST LIKE PETA
 Quoting: fuckPETA 370550



This is the biggest crock of shit I seen in a long time.First off Global Warming is from space second the contributing factors that is a major problem to the ozone is Lockheed Martin, Nothrop and NASA shooting all these satellites and telescopes into space.

Many of the shit they launch is shot off at Edwards and Nelis with nobody seen this.

They have a satellite launcher built that catapolts satellites into space on magnetics and they rather wreck the fucking earth.

One launch is equivelent to the western United States driving cars for one year.

Fuck them and fuck them all. Same thing with conserving water in your household.

When you do this you are giving the rich billionaires extra water resources for there Golf Course resorts and mega stores so they can rip your ass off even more and keep your sheeple ass down.
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flietebub
User ID: 534959
5/18/2009 4:29 PM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

Has anyone seen any promo or group photos of these suspected cast members on Stargate Universe?

[link to www.koldcast.tv]
flietebub
User ID: 534959
5/18/2009 7:15 PM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

No way, this big guy is an actor on Stargate, and who the hell is Jace Hall anyway?

[link to www.koldcast.tv]
Riker Subscriber
User ID: 573830
5/18/2009 7:28 PM
Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

FUCK THESE FASCIST BASTARDS

FUCK TAXES

EAT GRASS FED MEAT

GET OVER IT

PS GLOBAL WARMING/CLIMATE CHANGE/CLIMATE CHAOS IS BULLSHIT AND NOT MANMADE.

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It would make more sense to tax farts.

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Re: "Stop Global Warming: Tax Meat."Quote

Wanna stop global warming? Kill off the humans.
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