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25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!!
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DANE
User ID: 181805
2/9/2008 5:03 AM
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Hi, this is a translated from a danish newspaper, jyllands Posten.
link is in dansih, but there are some maps.
IMPORTANT TO SEE THE DIFFERENT
[link to jp.dk]
By Lars From
Published 08.02.08 Time. 22:31
The ice about North Pole disappears faster, than even the most sceptical forecasts have anticipated.
During the last year about one quarter of the ice mass in the area has disappeared, senior researcher Rasmus Tonboe estimates at Danmark Meteorologiske Institut, DMI.
"We have just analysed new satellite pictures of the ice, which shows that there is about 25 pct. less ice, than it was a year ago.
It's completely wild", Rasmus Tonboe ascertains.
The temperature has risen
He explains the dramatic de-melting with two conditions:
"Firstly the temperature has in the area risen, secondly there has been changed current conditions, which have led large quantities of ice away from the arctic regions.
There is no doubt that the ice melts, but nobody has dared anticipate that it'd happen so quickly, as that we now see", it sounds from Rasmus Tonboe.
Great consequences
So far the most dramatic predictions have talked about that North Pole may be completely ice-free in summer once between 2040 and 2060.
If the present de-melting doesn't appear to be an accidental variation of the climate, but is due to the global heating, it can even go faster.
"Then it want to not go 40 years, before the arctic regions are ice-free.
Then it wants to not stop", professor Eigil Kaas from the University of Copenhagen thinks.
Dramatic consequences
Professor Ola Johannessen from Nansen Instituttet in Bergen thinks that it'll get dramatic consequences for the climate on the whole globe, if the arctic ocean stays ice-free.
"That will get great consequences for the weather in Greenland and on the rest of the globe.
That will change the entire global climate, if we get a news, ice-free ocean", thinks Ola Johannessen, who is one of the researchers who have followed the developments in the arctic ice most closely.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 27165
2/9/2008 5:16 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
I have heard the above nonsense over and over again, media simply exagerates backed up by the project members just to get more financing, it is all about money, enough said. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 27165
2/9/2008 5:18 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
Please accept my apologies for not raising the BS Flag, here it is:
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 27165
2/9/2008 5:22 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
What good does those ices(s and n poles) do any way |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 16622
2/9/2008 5:54 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
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CC
User ID: 370461
2/9/2008 5:57 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
If any of you clowns have a contrary viewpoint with evidence then post it instead of just mocking everyone who tries to make a serious post about something. OK, the guy's English aint that good (by Yiminy) but at least he's got something to say.
Just do better if you can. |
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Free Store
User ID: 145535
2/9/2008 7:23 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
"We have just analysed new satellite pictures of the ice, which shows that there is about 25 pct. less ice, than it was a year ago.
Alarming to say the least |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 304329
2/9/2008 7:38 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
From what i understand, the ice also reforms at a staggering rate aswell.. |
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Free Store
User ID: 145535
2/9/2008 7:44 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
Will show up on satellite images |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 370706
2/9/2008 8:08 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
The BS flag applies if you're posting this to insinuate that "global warming" (if it even exists) is MAN-MADE.... and we have to change our light bulbs and request paper instead of plastic at the supermarket as if that's going to make a difference. Oh, and pay a "global tax" too. And reduce our "carbon footprint" and all that other bullshit.
If the poles are melting, perhaps the planet's orbit is erratic. Maybe the sun is getting hotter. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 370711
2/9/2008 8:18 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
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DANE
User ID: 181805
2/9/2008 9:19 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
Please accept my apologies for not raising the BS Flag, here it is:
explain why?
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DANE
User ID: 181805
2/9/2008 9:21 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
The BS flag applies if you're posting this to insinuate that "global warming" (if it even exists) is MAN-MADE.... and we have to change our light bulbs and request paper instead of plastic at the supermarket as if that's going to make a difference. Oh, and pay a "global tax" too. And reduce our "carbon footprint" and all that other bullshit.
If the poles are melting, perhaps the planet's orbit is erratic. Maybe the sun is getting hotter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 370706
its weird that nobody thinks, how last iceage started or end, we was not there to make pollution, but still there was hotter than today and colder than today in present times. so ofcorse its the sun there do this, but stil sad to see a bs flag.
DANE |
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You Have 80D
User ID: 193501
2/9/2008 9:27 AM
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not from me dane
But Im from the 'there's nothing we as man can do about it' camp. I think it's cyclical, and I think that there could well be a pole shift, and another ice age, either mini one or big one.
But there are a million theories out there, I kind of like the one where the oceans are heating up because of underground volcanoes erupting. But who knows? |
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DANE
User ID: 181805
2/9/2008 9:33 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
not from me dane
But Im from the 'there's nothing we as man can do about it' camp. I think it's cyclical, and I think that there could well be a pole shift, and another ice age, either mini one or big one.
But there are a million theories out there, I kind of like the one where the oceans are heating up because of underground volcanoes erupting. But who knows? Quoting: You Have 80D
there is nothing we can do about this, thats for sure, and how and when or why its happen, i don't know either, but, i do know what makes the heat around here, and thats the sun, and beside that, its not only the earth there get hotter, mars is too.
[link to madmouser.wordpress.com]
[link to grammyjan.vox.com]
so, if mars is get hotter, and we not are there, then something other there controll the heat in our universe must do it, and there is only the sun, so its poss. when earth get hotter, we see more earthquakes, vulcan's, storms, and so on. but again ,its weird that nobody thinks of this.....this is true doom and science, but stil not even a pin.
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 12283
2/9/2008 9:48 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
I second the person who said it is all to do with money.
No way 25% of North Pole has melted, its the same as ever, you want proof, ask all the scientists that have gone there, they all say: should anything begin to happen it shall be in 2050s at the earliest, however higher chances are that it will happen in the 2080s, even then it will not be a problem, real problems will not start before 2200s.
In 2100s the sea level shall increase about 1-2 feet compare to today.
In 2200s the sea level shall increase about 4 feet compare to today.
Regards, |
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DANE
User ID: 181805
2/9/2008 9:52 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
I second the person who said it is all to do with money.
No way 25% of North Pole has melted, its the same as ever, you want proof, ask all the scientists that have gone there, they all say: should anything begin to happen it shall be in 2050s at the earliest, however higher chances are that it will happen in the 2080s, even then it will not be a problem, real problems will not start before 2200s.
In 2100s the sea level shall increase about 1-2 feet compare to today.
In 2200s the sea level shall increase about 4 feet compare to today.
Regards, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12283
try look at link, and see those photo's of ice, its clearly thats its gone and its cleary show compared to 2000 aand to 2006 and then again to 07, its from 06 to 07 there is 25% more melted than before.
[link to jp.dk]
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 370733
2/9/2008 9:56 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
So it appears that Arctic ice isn't vanishing after all...
'If the northern hemisphere's chilliest winter in a long time was bad news for the propagandists of global warming, they also had to face serious questions about some of the most iconic images used to support the claims that the world is hotting up towards disaster.'
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 369230
2/9/2008 10:02 AM | |
You Have 80D
User ID: 193501
2/9/2008 10:04 AM
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Another thing that bugs me are these solar minimums. We havent had hardly any sunspots, which makes for colder temps according to some scientists. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368607
2/9/2008 10:04 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
So why aren't the coastal regions underwater??????
I saw an Inconvenient Truth...
Please explain. |
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DANE
User ID: 181805
2/9/2008 10:06 AM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
So why aren't the coastal regions underwater??????
I saw an Inconvenient Truth...
Please explain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368607
because northpole is already in the water, so if it melt, u wont see it, sea lvl wont rise..
DANE |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 368743
2/9/2008 9:59 PM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
25% in one year so 3 years left to go right? |
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Amaruca
User ID: 369984
2/9/2008 10:14 PM
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the aliens r trying to find their spaceships they left in the ice eh?
"God" said, let us make man in our image.. IMPLYING genetic hybridization
"I awoke only to find, that the rest of the world was still asleep" |
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Cosmos
User ID: 354008
2/9/2008 10:27 PM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
if you think the 2007 summer melt season was bad, check out what happened in the last 4 months...look at the Quikscat animation which shows the progression of ice from September 4, 2007 to January 29, 2008
[link to ice-glaces.ec.gc.ca] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 354008
2/9/2008 10:34 PM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
I second the person who said it is all to do with money.
No way 25% of North Pole has melted, its the same as ever, you want proof, ask all the scientists that have gone there, they all say: should anything begin to happen it shall be in 2050s at the earliest, however higher chances are that it will happen in the 2080s, even then it will not be a problem, real problems will not start before 2200s.
In 2100s the sea level shall increase about 1-2 feet compare to today.
In 2200s the sea level shall increase about 4 feet compare to today.
Regards, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12283
Excuse me...but even NASA has stated that the Arctic ice cap lost 50% of its VOLUME in the last 3 years. If you don't believe me...I'll show you what NASA has to say. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 275868
2/9/2008 10:36 PM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
Global warming is a fraud!
More baseless propaganda! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 356326
2/9/2008 10:42 PM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
The BS flag applies if you're posting this to insinuate that "global warming" (if it even exists) is MAN-MADE.... and we have to change our light bulbs and request paper instead of plastic at the supermarket as if that's going to make a difference. Oh, and pay a "global tax" too. And reduce our "carbon footprint" and all that other bullshit.
If the poles are melting, perhaps the planet's orbit is erratic. Maybe the sun is getting hotter. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 370706
And maybe you are delusional, just full of shit, unable to accept reality or just reluctant to part with your money. |
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Cosmos
User ID: 354008
2/9/2008 10:51 PM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
So why aren't the coastal regions underwater??????
I saw an Inconvenient Truth...
Please explain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 368607
It's happening...give it a couple more years. Check out this video about Tuvalu.
The seas are rising faster at the equator due to the centripetal forces of a rotating planet.
[link to news.bbc.co.uk] |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 310596
2/9/2008 11:00 PM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
cant they figeur out a way to vaperate the oceans.giant heaters or somthing.get rid of the polluted ocean waters and replace it with freash cool artic water... |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 217428
2/9/2008 11:26 PM | | Re: 25 pct. of North Pole melted on a year!! | Quote |
And maybe you are delusional, just full of shit, unable to accept reality or just reluctant to part with your money. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 356326
You first, dipshit. Open yer wallet and give your money to Al Gore and the goobermint and they'll make all that nasty global warming go away.
Dipshit. |
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