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Clinton threatens to pull out over Chelsea 'PIMP' claims

 
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Clinton threatens to pull out over Chelsea 'PIMP' claims
February 9, 2008 -- WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton threatened yesterday to pull out of an upcoming debate hosted by MSNBC after one of its correspondents said on air that daughter Chelsea was being "pimped out" by the campaign to win votes.

"I, at this point, can't envi sion a scenario where we could continue to engage in debates on that network, given the comments that were made," said Clinton's spokesman, Howard Wolfson, calling the comment "beneath contempt."

Correspondent David Shuster made the remark Thursday night as he and others were discussing on air how Chelsea Clinton, 27, is taking an increasingly active role in the campaign.

"Doesn't it seem as if Chelsea is sort of being pimped out in some weird sort of way?" Shuster said.

Chelsea's efforts on behalf of her mother have been generally well-received, and MSNBC scrambled to patch things up in hopes of salvaging the debates, which have proven enormously lucrative for the networks that host them.

"NBC News takes these matters seriously, and offers our sincere regrets to the Clintons for the remarks," MSNBC spokesman Jeremy Gaines said, adding the network was hopeful the debate would take place as planned.

Clinton and Barack Obama had agreed to participate in an MSNBC debate Feb. 26 in Ohio, which holds its primary on March 4.

Shuster was suspended. He offered an on-air apology last night.

"I used a phrase that was inappropriate," Shuster said, adding that "all Americans should be proud of Chelsea Clinton" and pay credit to the way Hillary and Bill Clinton raised her.

Shuster told The Associated Press he had tried to reach Chelsea Clinton to apologize.

Bill Burton, a spokesman for Obama, called Shuster's comments "deplorable."

MSNBC executives said yesterday that they had also apologized to Clinton aides and had attempted to reach other campaign officials to apologize.

Wolfson, talking to reporters in the early afternoon, said he was not aware of any such apologies.

"I think that the comment is disgusting. It's beneath contempt," he said. "And it's the kind of thing that should never be said on a national news network."

Clinton supporter Ellen Malcolm, president of EMILY's List, which supports pro-choice female candidates, was equally outraged and sent a scathing letter to the head of MSNBC.

"The halfhearted apology by Mr. Shuster this morning fails to even acknowledge the insulting nature of his comments," she wrote.

"Your tolerance for this behavior speaks volumes about the corporate culture of MSNBC."

Wolfson noted that just last month another MSNBC personality, Chris Matthews, apologized for saying the reason Clinton was elected senator was because the nation felt sorry for her after Bill Clinton had sexual liaisons with Monica Lewinsky.

"She didn't win there on her merits," Matthews said.

Wolfson saw a connection.

"I think at some point you really have to question whether or not there is a pattern here at this particular network where you have comments being made and then apologies given," he said.

"Is there something that folks are encouraged to do or not do?"



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pull out of election? iwish
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Oh boo hoo. It's ok to do it, just don't call it what it is.

Politicians really suck.
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pull out of election? iwish
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Yeah, for a moment there I though the same.
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pull out of election? iwish
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Pull out of debates.
HORRIBLE BASTARD.
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Oh boo hoo. It's ok to do it, just don't call it what it is.

Politicians really suck.
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Americans in general do the very same thing.
HORRIBLE BASTARD.
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Jesus Christ! Those comments weren't THAT bad. I'm so sick of the Clintons and I used to be a life-long Democrat.
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Truth hurts, don't it?
chuckle
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so fake
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"my husband can get his dick sucked by a fat bitch and the whole world can know and i'll just sit there and try to look pretty and never be mad. but if i can squirm out of a debate where ron paul will rip me a new one i will say anything and i will pay a media personality to stage something so i have a reason to not attend. i'm a really big bitch and i'm here to destroy your lives. i'm the cunt of satan, the slit of the darkness, the axe wound to your face."
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Pull out ? her toungue or penis from her lesbian freind ?

Boy how I wish she would pull out of the presidential race
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Has the common denominator in this world become THAT common! While her daughter (who is fully a poised bright grown woman in her own right) is a valuable asset and certainly one who has chosen to speak on behalf of her mothers' campaign, to have the NEWS in this country refer to her speaking on behalf of her mothers' campaign as being "PIMPED" out is the most vulgar, common, and probably racist comment I can imagine!

She's talking for God's sake! Not screwing for money! Let's use the terms accurately for once! She is not a prostitute. She is a speaker working on behalf of a political campaign. Does this mean that all those republican wives talking for and about their candidate hopeful husbands are "whores" too and they also are being "pimped" out?

This is outrageous that the media itself is guilty of such a choice of words! But when a radio personality recently referred to a bunch of team members on a womans basketball team (I think) as "nappy-headed whores" the guys career was OVER!

Hillary has every right to be deeply offended by the outrageousness of this comment. This is the height of vulgarity and bad taste. How dare a reporter use this term to describe what a courageous young woman is doing to further the election of the first woman president of the United States to office - and that woman happens to be her mother!

The phrase "Media Whores" is not much more applicable to the media itself than to anyone they're reporting about! How LOW are they going to sink? And what kind of a pig is going to describe this lovely educated, and poised, articulate young woman as being "pimped" thereby implying that she is a "whore"???

That may be a wonderful way of describing persons in his world, but it's not considered very flattering - nor is it something we aspire to in the real world!
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Clinton won't pull out of the debates...she needs the free air space. Of course she had to make a stink about it, but that also gets her air time.
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They are REALLY throwing all they;ve got against the Clinton campaign @ MSNBC. Matthews make me sick, he is so fucking transparent about his mysogenist behavior. Mika B tried to question him about it last night and he did not even let her finish the sentence and shot back "ME? that is so yesterday, why you'd even bring that up is below you"> AND THE CONVERSATION SWITCHED IMMEDIATELY!!!. I can't stand that pope-sucking man. He's pure unadulterated ego.
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more bullshit .... these Clinton's are pros at this passive agressive crap

attack .. attack .. attack ...

but when someone says something about you, cry victim

when will the voter learn ????
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Well if attacks on her daughter bother her, then it is a weakness to exploit !
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Pimps is right in line with MSNBC's nappy headed hoes. In your face white fascist corporate america with the continuing not so subtle put down of the black man.
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Well if she's REALLY that offended, yes, pull out of the campaign. Thanks in advance!
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I have been watching this with interest...and will tell you something...this is one shrewd lady...By turning this into a major incident, who's using the daughter for who's benefit now? uh huh...anyone who thinks they are electing Bill back into office, IF they vote for Hillary...has another think coming...the lady wears the pants in that family...and anything, or anyone who can be used to benefit HER goals along the way, will be used accordingly...It was a figure of speech for crying out loud...he didn't call her a whore, he said the Clinton's were using her...and they were, he just chose the wrong way to say it..but he must have hit a nerve...I find it amazing, that a woman, running for prez...is never seen in a skirt, looking like a woman, who is proud of her gender...but at the same time, uses the woman wiles to get what she wants from people...pretty shrewd lady...I will give her that...rr
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pull out her strap on , lol iamwith
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that's one way to avoid looking bad...and Hilary of late has not performed well in debates....and this can gather extra sympathy for her as a mon....yeah right...
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As you can probably tell by my previous post, I found Shuster's comments about Chelsea being "pimped out" outrageous and deeply offensive. While I'm not sure if I'm voting for HC - I am going to try to insist that these "news commentators" stick to the facts and the news and leave their neurotic and inflammatory choice of words at home or confine them to their private life where they may be appropriate. If this guy is going to be given a national platform on which to comment about the various campaigns - then let him clean up his nasty mouth! Of course I wrote a letter to the editors of both MSNBC and NBC since this putz has exposure on both. His suspension and insincerely rendered apology to the Clinton Campaign just is woefully inadequate.

About 9 or 10 years back, it was my good fortune to sit next to the young Ms. Clinton at the SF Opera Opening when her father was in office. She was under 20 at the time, and surrounded by secret service, had a date with her, and was there with a few friends too. We were given seats by some friends of ours who are patrons of the SF Opera but who were out of town and could not attend the Gala that year. As we were going in to our excellent seats, a secret service type stopped me, and very politely inquired if I was "Dr. X" (Dr. X being the man who'd given us his seats because they were in China at the time.) I responded that no, I was not he. But that they were dear friends of many years standing and they'd given us their seats that night. I then introduced my partner who was with me to the SS guy. He explained the security details presence because it was Ms. Clinton who would be sharing the box with us and another couple. I smiled and knew full good and well that the minute they had my name, they were running security checks on both of us. Finding no history of either violent nor criminal behavior, an considering the fact that I am a life-long Democrat and had worked on her father's campaign both times - we were seated without further ado. Chelsea was already in her seat by the time we sat down. It was she who turned to me and addressing me by name (the SS types briefed her, obviously) she introduced herself and then her date, and we exchanged pleasantries until curtain. At the intermission, we all got some champagne together and went out onto the terrace for a cigarette (her date smoked!) and she joined us. The young lady was exemplary in her behavior and was charming too. Her parents did one hell of a job for a kid raised in the fishbowl of the US Public looking at her every move.

In my opinion having her speak out on her mother's campaign is one very smart move. The girl is bright, poised and articulate as hell. To see her besmirched by an innuendo of whoredom being thrown at her by Shuster was too much for me to remain silent on. Here below is a copy of the letter I sent to MSNBC and NBC. I do not know if they'll dare print it or not, but at least they've heard from one outraged citizen and maybe that will serve to keep this idiot under wraps or at least clean up his mouth!

Hope so.

Mark

BEGIN Quoted Letter:

Gentlemen:

When all the other candidates have their wives, husbands, friends, children (and in McCain's case - even his 96 year old mother!) on the campaign trail, with many making speeches in support of their candidate, WHAT ON EARTH ever possessed Mr. Shuster to use the term "being PIMPED out" to describe the fact the Hillary Clinton has her 27 year old daughter making speeches and hosting events on her mothers behalf and in support of her mother's candidacy?

Since when does the term "PIMPED OUT" belong in our modern vocabulary and when is it used in "polite" society?

The underlying innuendo of prostitution, whores, whoredom, and "pimps" in the sense of peddlers of flesh, are all very ugly things and things I don't want to explain to anyone under the age of 16, because it represents some of the lowest of human behavior.

To use this word in reference to Ms. Clinton's speaking on behalf of her mother is beyond comprehension and certainly without excuse! Mr. Shuster managed to voice a 'half-assed' apology about his 'choice of words' and frankly it's not enough! His lack of sincerity was all too obvious. I do not care which candidate Mr. Shuster is personally supporting. I do care about his using such vulgar and common terms on the new coverage, and I'm deeply concerned about NBC allowing him to do so with impunity!

Is Mr. Shuster so ashamed of his obviously white, educated, upper-middle class background that he is over compensating for it by trying to sound as though he's a product of some ghetto some place? If so, fine. That's his neurosis. But please ask him to clean up his choice of words on the air! While the young Ms. Clinton is a valuable asset for her mother's campaign - and of course she may be referred to as being utilized, being deployed, and being engaged in the support of her mother's candidacy. But she is NOT under any circumstances a PROSTITUTE nor is she BEING PIMPED OUT! And if your execs happen to have a bar of soap handy - I could suggest a fine use for it in Mr. Shuster's little potty mouth. The only whore we're dealing with here seems to be one of the MEDIA VARIETY and while he's been suspended, I still think that the bar of soap might seriously improve the quality of his reporting and the dubious sincerity of his apology to Hillary Clinton's campaign.

Sincerely,

/s/ my real name

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that's one way to avoid looking bad...and Hilary of late has not performed well in debates....and this can gather extra sympathy for her as a mon....yeah right...
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Well, Schuster is going to be very sorry he expressed his thoughts the way he did...either that or the whole thing was planned and executed beautifully...guess whether or not he gets fired tells us which it was...the real problem is...the voters are being played like a fine tuned fiddle...hope they catch on...rr
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Are you guys all scared?

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Has anybody heard of the Constitution? Freedom of speech or the freedom of the press? Apparently not. Funny thing is Shuster is quite the biased Democrat and Hillary goes after him. I was a long time Democrat and all my family are liberals but if Hillary is nominated I will vote for Mccain. This bitch has to be stopped period.
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325789-Mark
I can see you are personally offended, and I can grant you that...ok..but...
Hillary is running for President...she must be prepared to deal with anything that happens along the way, including people who may make unfortunate comments...Personally, I figure the best thing she could have done, would have been to have dropped it back into his lap, by saying, with a smile on her face, something like, Mr.Schuster certainly made an unfortunate comment, but we will simply consider the source won't we?....Then either accept or not accept his apologies, and get on with her campaign..It does the daughter no good, to keep spouting on and on about this..because unfortunately, now it does begin to look as though they are pimping her out, in order to benefit Hillary...she needs to be careful not to take this to the point, that it backfires on her...rr
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This country has went the way of the Roman empire.
When trash like Hillary Clinton is pittied, I know all the common sense has been beaten out of the people.

I believe in the premises of the declaration of independance and the constitution, but this country no lnerg honors these principles. The people are so dumbed down and cowardly I am disheartened.

Those who would not fight to be free do not deserve life. Look at nature, how it handles this.
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ALL I CAN SAY IS GROW UP YOU MORONS!!!!!
ALL YOU PEOPLE WANT TO DO IS STIR UP TROUBLE
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Sad that people can't handle real questions put to them.

They would rather act as if the were all insulted and hurt, pick up their marbles and run home to mommy crying that someone called their daughter "a fucking whore, pimped out by her momma!"
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this is so fucked up... the responses in general are worse than the original slur.

It's obvious, all you limp-dick republicans are scared shitless that a woman might become president. The peodophile party who specializes in hypocrisy and being gay-but-afraid-to-admit-it knows only talking point meaningless issues. You're all such losers it's a shame you're old enough to vote... or are you?
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Has the common denominator in this world become THAT common! While her daughter (who is fully a poised bright grown woman in her own right) is a valuable asset and certainly one who has chosen to speak on behalf of her mothers' campaign, to have the NEWS in this country refer to her speaking on behalf of her mothers' campaign as being "PIMPED" out is the most vulgar, common, and probably racist comment I can imagine!

She's talking for God's sake! Not screwing for money! Let's use the terms accurately for once! She is not a prostitute. She is a speaker working on behalf of a political campaign. Does this mean that all those republican wives talking for and about their candidate hopeful husbands are "whores" too and they also are being "pimped" out?

This is outrageous that the media itself is guilty of such a choice of words! But when a radio personality recently referred to a bunch of team members on a womans basketball team (I think) as "nappy-headed whores" the guys career was OVER!

Hillary has every right to be deeply offended by the outrageousness of this comment. This is the height of vulgarity and bad taste. How dare a reporter use this term to describe what a courageous young woman is doing to further the election of the first woman president of the United States to office - and that woman happens to be her mother!

The phrase "Media Whores" is not much more applicable to the media itself than to anyone they're reporting about! How LOW are they going to sink? And what kind of a pig is going to describe this lovely educated, and poised, articulate young woman as being "pimped" thereby implying that she is a "whore"???

That may be a wonderful way of describing persons in his world, but it's not considered very flattering - nor is it something we aspire to in the real world!
 Quoting: Mark In NYC


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Bravo, Mark,
& kudos to you
for being the very
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will stand up for women
when they've been maligned.
You're the BEST kind of man
with a loving heart, soul & mind!



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