500,000 people showing up for this rally without a permit is exactly what we need Enlilson. The federal government operates as a criminal racket, so breaking a parade permit rule seems rather pale in comparison. So your saying they would arrest us ALL? I think not. That many people showing up would scare the shit out the federal government and is exactly what is needed today. Why follow the rules, they don't.
Did I say not to do it, It is the choice of the people that come. Should they not know the potential issues if they do. BTW I do not disagree about what the government is doing.
Quoting: Enlilson
cuz your a shill and getting paid.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 214086 2/12/2008 12:28 PM
Re: ***** Ron Paul Last Stand March on Washington D.C. this Summer! *****
Before you all jump on Enlilson, as even I want to, since he seems to want to rain on our parade... He obviously has some background in this area. His advice, though maybe given in more of a "give up, it's impossible" way, doesn't invalidate his information. BUT, that being said, he isn't in charge of permits. He isn't in charge of scheduling events.. Robin Owens is..
We all know the grassroots supporters have gotten amazing things accomplished. I feel strongly that this will be accomplished as well..
Turning that into votes? Time will tell... You can bet the naysayers will jump the gun and try to beat down our resolve.. That is their right, but it's our right to not be swayed.
RON PAUL REVOLUTION ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The budget should be balanced,
the Treasury should be refilled,
the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled,
and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
Cicero - 55 BC
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Enlilson The Sons of Enlil live. User ID: 337505 2/12/2008 12:32 PM
Re: ***** Ron Paul Last Stand March on Washington D.C. this Summer! *****
Divide and conquer......that's right go after me some great shill.
Quoting: Enlilson
It's the way you present your case.. Assuming it will be impossible.. It's ovbious you don't like RP, so I am not sure why you feel the need to be involved in this thread, but that is your right...
Advice taken, anything else? ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The budget should be balanced,
the Treasury should be refilled,
the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled,
and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
500,000 people showing up for this rally without a permit is exactly what we need Enlilson.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 341880
This is just too funny. In half of the united states you couldnt get 400,000 to turn out to vote. Double that and you got 800,000 ron paul supporters in the whole nation.
Getting them to go to DC and march you will be lucky to get 10,000 if that many.
Good luck with your million man march. OBAMA - THE FASTEST FAILED PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY
500,000 people showing up for this rally without a permit is exactly what we need Enlilson.
This is just too funny. In half of the united states you couldnt get 400,000 to turn out to vote. Double that and you got 800,000 ron paul supporters in the whole nation.
Getting them to go to DC and march you will be lucky to get 10,000 if that many.
Good luck with your million man march.
Quoting: PACNWguy
Duly noted.. Thanks for the good luck.. :)
next? ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The budget should be balanced,
the Treasury should be refilled,
the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled,
and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
Cicero - 55 BC
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 101129 2/12/2008 12:45 PM
Re: ***** Ron Paul Last Stand March on Washington D.C. this Summer! *****
500,000 people showing up for this rally without a permit is exactly what we need Enlilson.
This is just too funny. In half of the united states you couldnt get 400,000 to turn out to vote. Double that and you got 800,000 ron paul supporters in the whole nation.
Getting them to go to DC and march you will be lucky to get 10,000 if that many.
Good luck with your million man march.
Quoting: PACNWguy
With the events that are coming, I think you'll get far more than a million to march. Far more.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 196275 2/12/2008 12:47 PM
Re: ***** Ron Paul Last Stand March on Washington D.C. this Summer! *****
500,000 people showing up for this rally without a permit is exactly what we need Enlilson.
This is just too funny. In half of the united states you couldnt get 400,000 to turn out to vote. Double that and you got 800,000 ron paul supporters in the whole nation.
Getting them to go to DC and march you will be lucky to get 10,000 if that many.
Good luck with your million man march.
Quoting: PACNWguy
if there's ever a MILLION MOROM MARCH, pacnfudge will be at the head of the PARADE
Anonymous Coward User ID: 196275 2/12/2008 12:48 PM
Re: ***** Ron Paul Last Stand March on Washington D.C. this Summer! *****
500,000 people showing up for this rally without a permit is exactly what we need Enlilson.
This is just too funny. In half of the united states you couldnt get 400,000 to turn out to vote. Double that and you got 800,000 ron paul supporters in the whole nation.
Getting them to go to DC and march you will be lucky to get 10,000 if that many.
Good luck with your million man march.
if there's ever a MILLION MOROM MARCH, pacnfudge will be at the head of the PARADE
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 196275
he prolly weighs 350lbs and cant get out of his moms basement.
500,000 people showing up for this rally without a permit is exactly what we need Enlilson.
This is just too funny. In half of the united states you couldnt get 400,000 to turn out to vote. Double that and you got 800,000 ron paul supporters in the whole nation.
Getting them to go to DC and march you will be lucky to get 10,000 if that many.
Good luck with your million man march.
With the events that are coming, I think you'll get far more than a million to march. Far more.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 101129
*not specifically to you 101129, but everyone..
At this point, it really is a mute argument as to how many will show up.. Plus, we really don't have to prove anything to Pacman. :)
I say let the naysayers have their say, acknowledge it.. and move on... Too many people feel the need to "prove something" to the RP naysayers.. It's time to just hear and acknowledge their take and let them move on.. It's obvious they will not change our minds, nor will we change theirs.. They have a right to spout whatever jewels or crap of info they feel they need to... BUT.. Why argue? It does nothing...
There are much better ways to spend our time.
*not that anyone will listen lol.. but had to say it..
**edit** Plus even if we ignore them, they like logging in AC's that appear to have been persuaded by their attacks.. Who appear to be supporters who have lost faith.. I know many see that for what it is.. I think we all know it is not so easy to persuade a RP supporter to just give up. :) ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The budget should be balanced,
the Treasury should be refilled,
the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled,
and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
Cicero - 55 BC
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Enlilson The Sons of Enlil live. User ID: 337505 2/12/2008 12:59 PM
Re: ***** Ron Paul Last Stand March on Washington D.C. this Summer! *****
Divide and conquer......that's right go after me some great shill.
It's the way you present your case.. Assuming it will be impossible.. It's ovbious you don't like RP, so I am not sure why you feel the need to be involved in this thread, but that is your right...
Advice taken, anything else?
Quoting: Tangwystyl
I believe I answered that in that I'm someone that supports free speech.
Which is clearly not many of RP supporters here do as evidenced by the replies I have gotten. As for RP, I have been interested in the overall growth of the campaign and agree with many points about the State of our country.
Where I fall off is when I hear someone say that if you dont believe what I believe you are somehow bad, a shill or unpatriotic. My cutting with RP comes from amoung other things he does not support voting rights for the District of Columbia.
Which for all you uber partriots should be a big deal that 500 thousand of your fellow American's do not have a meaningful voice in Congress. I dont want to hear that everyone is DC is some fed those people are not from here they are from your towns and few if any of them actually live in DC after they finish their term or job.
I would also point out to the good lady if you dont want someone that does not believe what you believe go find a secure site that is solely for RP.. It is called GodLikeProductions.com not RonPauProductions.com. Once again we have free speech here for now and if you dont like it leave. ' " "'
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TexasT User ID: 208999 2/12/2008 1:00 PM
Re: ***** Ron Paul Last Stand March on Washington D.C. this Summer! *****
At this point, it really is a mute argument as to how many will show up.. Plus, we really don't have to prove anything to Pacman. :)
It's moot. Mute means silent.
(Sorry. Pet peeve of mine.)
Quoting: TexasT 208999
LMAOOOOO oops.. I knew that. hehe.. I don't think I've ever had to type moot in a conversation.. Thanks :) ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The budget should be balanced,
the Treasury should be refilled,
the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled,
and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
Cicero - 55 BC
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 372518 2/12/2008 1:23 PM
Re: ***** Ron Paul Last Stand March on Washington D.C. this Summer! *****
Divide and conquer......that's right go after me some great shill.
It's the way you present your case.. Assuming it will be impossible.. It's ovbious you don't like RP, so I am not sure why you feel the need to be involved in this thread, but that is your right...
Advice taken, anything else?
I believe I answered that in that I'm someone that supports free speech.
Which is clearly not many of RP supporters here do as evidenced by the replies I have gotten. As for RP, I have been interested in the overall growth of the campaign and agree with many points about the State of our country.
Where I fall off is when I hear someone say that if you dont believe what I believe you are somehow bad, a shill or unpatriotic. My cutting with RP comes from amoung other things he does not support voting rights for the District of Columbia.
Which for all you uber partriots should be a big deal that 500 thousand of your fellow American's do not have a meaningful voice in Congress. I dont want to hear that everyone is DC is some fed those people are not from here they are from your towns and few if any of them actually live in DC after they finish their term or job.
I would also point out to the good lady if you dont want someone that does not believe what you believe go find a secure site that is solely for RP.. It is called GodLikeProductions.com not RonPauProductions.com. Once again we have free speech here for now and if you dont like it leave.
Quoting: Enlilson
I never told you to leave enlilson.. You make some valid points even if you throw in baiting type wording around them.. It appears you completely misunderstood my comment. I simply asked, anything else? And I mentioned my "personal" wondering of why a non RP supporter would spend so much time in a RP thread.. you could have just answered it rather than the thinly veiled attack mode you chose. lol..
Apparently you have more to say in here.. I certainly didn't ask you to leave. LMFAOOOOOOOO
Love him or hate him.. Ron Paul is addicting it appears. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The budget should be balanced,
the Treasury should be refilled,
the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled,
and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
IS THE OP A REAL SUPPORTER, OR USING NEGATIVE PHYCOLOGY HERE?
TO DERAIL HIS SUPPORTERS?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 372518
There is a lot of that in here.. It's a pathetic tactic, and shows desperation.. I don't know if the OP is in that group, but it is a noteworthy question for many RP posts and threads.. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The budget should be balanced,
the Treasury should be refilled,
the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled,
and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
Cicero - 55 BC
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 338226 (OP) 2/12/2008 1:36 PM
Re: ***** Ron Paul Last Stand March on Washington D.C. this Summer! *****
500,000 people showing up for this rally without a permit is exactly what we need Enlilson.
This is just too funny. In half of the united states you couldnt get 400,000 to turn out to vote. Double that and you got 800,000 ron paul supporters in the whole nation.
Getting them to go to DC and march you will be lucky to get 10,000 if that many.
Good luck with your million man march.
Quoting: PACNWguy
You are buried in the pre-internet age young padawan.
Only half a million we awake then, many, many more are awake, aware, and willing to stand in the fire for freedom adn liberty.
Wake up to the information age, oh right you are...LOL!
LOL.. Have to admit in this arena it was a valid question.. hahaha..
I am really excited about this march. It gives me something to do this summer since I wont be going to Egypt as we had tentatively planned. I hope a date is made soon, so I can start making arrangements. :) ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
The budget should be balanced,
the Treasury should be refilled,
the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled,
and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
Cicero - 55 BC
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IDW User ID: 372521 2/12/2008 1:49 PM
Re: ***** Ron Paul Last Stand March on Washington D.C. this Summer! *****
500,000 people showing up for this rally without a permit is exactly what we need Enlilson.
This is just too funny. In half of the united states you couldnt get 400,000 to turn out to vote. Double that and you got 800,000 ron paul supporters in the whole nation.
Getting them to go to DC and march you will be lucky to get 10,000 if that many.
Good luck with your million man march.
Quoting: PACNWguy
Whats going to happen when more people show up than "voted" for McCain, dickweed?
LMAO!
I'll be there.
If Ron Paul wasn't a continuing threat to what you represent, you'd not be wasting the governments money fighting the movement.
I personally believe the primaries are being rigged, and I am not the only one. I also believe that Leo STauss neoCONS are traitors, and that this is the only reason Ron Paul hasnt already won the delegates neccessary to secure the Republican nomination. Lets face it, Ron Paul is the only conservative AMerican running and none of his most vocal opponents will say exactly who it is they support, they dont care who wins as long as it isnt a loyal American looking out for the best interests of the American people and the soveriegn Republic. If youre not operating withen the constraints of the Constitution, youre only pretending to be a ligitamate part of the government of the Republic.
I don't believe more than 100,000 people actually voted for McCain. I base this estimate on his early results, before his sudden and unexplicable rise to the top. The man is a nutcase and a war monger and has absolutely zero chance of being elected. The only reason I can see for the Leo Strauss neoCONS seeing him through to the nomination is to ensure a Hillary win. The American people will choose a white woman over a negro or an obvious psychotic.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 287857 2/12/2008 1:55 PM
Re: ***** Ron Paul Last Stand March on Washington D.C. this Summer! *****
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy (1917 - 1963), In a speech at the White House, 1962
The first duty of a revolutionary is to get away with it.
Abbie Hoffman (1936 - 1989)
Do not bite at the bait of pleasure till you know there is no hook beneath it.
Thomas Jefferson
Every citizen should be a soldier. This was the case with the Greeks and Romans, and must be that of every free state.
Thomas Jefferson
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.
Thomas Jefferson
In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock.
Thomas Jefferson
The will of the people is the only legitimate foundation of any government, and to protect its free expression should be our first object.
Thomas Jefferson
We in America do not have government by the majority. We have government by the majority who participate.
Thomas Jefferson
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to the Secretary of the Treasury Albert Gallatin (1802)
I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.
Thomas Jefferson, to Archibald Stuart, 1791
The basis of a democratic state is liberty.
Aristotle (384 BC - 322 BC), Politics
Because you are in control of your life. Don't ever forget that. You are what you are because of the conscious and subconscious choices you have made.
Barbara Hall, A Summons to New Orleans, 2000
If you want to be free, there is but one way; it is to guarantee an equally full measure of liberty to all your neighbors. There is no other.
Carl Schurz (1829 - 1906)
Only the educated are free.
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Epictetus (55 AD - 135 AD), Discourses
Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.
George Bernard Shaw (1856 - 1950)
The First Amendment is often inconvenient. But that is besides the point. Inconvenience does not absolve the government of its obligation to tolerate speech.
Justice Anthony Kennedy (1936 - )
Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it.
Malcolm X (1925 - 1965), Malcolm X Speaks, 1965
It is by the goodness of God that in our country we have those three unspeakably precious things: freedom of speech, freedom of conscience, and the prudence never to practice either of them.
Mark Twain (1835 - 1910), Following the Equator (1897)
To know what you prefer instead of humbly saying Amen to what the world tells you you ought to prefer, is to have kept your soul alive.
Robert Louis Stevenson (1850 - 1894)
People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought which they seldom use.
Soren Kierkegaard (1813 - 1855)
I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death.
Patrick Henry, (Virginia Convention, March 23, 1775)
Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.
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Patrick Henry (1736 - 1799)
Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains or slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take but as for me; give me liberty or give me death!
Patrick Henry (1736 - 1799)
remember the contrast:
The great masses of the people... will more easily fall victims to a great lie than to a small one.
Adolf Hitler
What luck for rulers that men do not think.
Adolf Hitler
...obstacles do not exist to be surrendered to, but only to be broken.
Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf
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It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen.
George Orwell, "1984", first sentence
All animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others.
George Orwell, "Animal Farm"
Political language -- and with variations this is true of all political parties, from Conservatives to Anarchists -- is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.
George Orwell, "Politics and the English Language", 1946
The great enemy of clear language is insincerity. When there is a gap between one's real and one's declared aims, one turns as it were instinctively to long words and exhausted idioms, like a cuttlefish spurting out ink.
George Orwell, "Politics and the English Language", 1946
War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent.
Love all those quotes! Thought provoking, inspiring, and some scary as hell lol :)
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The budget should be balanced,
the Treasury should be refilled,
the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled,
and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt.
People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance.
Cicero - 55 BC
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 335844 2/12/2008 2:00 PM
Re: ***** Ron Paul Last Stand March on Washington D.C. this Summer! *****
We'll see what happens. Many can play armchair scientist about the possiblities.
I don't recall woodstock having a permit.
I realize DC isn't exactly woodstock, but we have the freedom of assembly. No one owns the public spaces. The government has no right to deny people the freedom of assembly.
Or perhaps what we need is another woodstock. There are many followers that have tons of land available.
As long as the government and media don't spin this into a radical protest, we'll be ok. AND, we ALL have to watch out for the hidden police or those people that mask themselves and throw items. It has been show again and again there are evil police that mask themselves and stand on the protestors side to get the police to attack the protestors.
However with that said, it will have to come to that one day. No one in the government seems to care. Peace doesn't work.
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