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| RationalSkeptic
User ID: 604561
1/30/2009 11:17 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
A New Earth has very little original material - although Eckhart Tolle doesn't credit Buddhism beyond Zen, there are less-than-coincidental "teachings" that are in his stuff that is strikingly similar to many Buddhist philosophies and teachings.
Check out this site of one of the oldest forms of Indian Meditation:
[link to www.dhamma.org]
There is sooo much stuff in A New Earth, especially all that stuff about being mindful and using the breath as an anchor to the "present" that is exactly the same as the teachings of S.N. Goenka (who doesn't claim to be the founder or anything).
Echkart Tolle's claims that he came up with original philosophy is a bunch of crap to make a buck, IMHO. That being said, I do not disagree with the teaching, only that they are NOT IN THE LEAST BIT ORIGINAL. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 600684
1/30/2009 11:32 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
"I'm a Christian, so I'm not sure about how much of this I want to take in from a man who apparently seems to think Jesus was just a teacher like Buddha"
Why does this notion frighten you?
Would you be shaken so much to realize that everything you believe is based on a fiction?
An idea or image in your mind whether of Jesus or Santa Claus is just that - a collection of thoughts.
What Tolle points to is beyond your thinking.
When you reach that place you will get a glimpse from where Jesus was looking. |
| himself
User ID: 604566
1/30/2009 11:39 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
Isn't it great that man who brags about spending years wandering in a schizophrenic haze can become a wealthy self-appointed guru by plagiarizing other people?
I think so! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 600684
1/30/2009 11:42 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
If the book does this for you then it is not serving it's purpose. 'Contemplation' is probably closer to what you are experiencing. A New Earth like all Tolle's works should focus you within.
Religions have told us to look outside of ourselves, to them, to Jesus, to Mohammed. No one has anything to fear by dropping their beliefs and everything to gain.
From the very little I have read so far, this book reminds me of my college philosophy class. I enjoyed that class because it was so thought-provoking, as I am sure this book will be.  |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 597687
1/30/2009 11:43 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
Decided to get the book after hearing Oprah talk about it and so far it's blowing me away. I'm a Christian, so I'm not sure about how much of this I want to take in from a man who apparently seems to think Jesus was just a teacher like Buddha, but the book is actually giving me some new insight into Scripture such as Gal. 2:20 "I have been crucified with Christ, so I no longer live but Christ lives in me..." The "I" in the verse would represent the ego and "Christ" the indwelling Holy Spirit, "I am", the Eternal Now.
Any thoughts on the book or author?
As a Christian, truth is the truth, wherever it comes from. Jesus is the life, and always shall be. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 373173
You sound retarded. Save yourself some embarrassment because your illusion of God won't save shit when you die. |
| ariadneg33
User ID: 592582
1/30/2009 11:59 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
I found that if you digest what Eckhart is saying your still hungry. In the beginning of the Power of Now, Eckhart tells a bit about himself and says that he is enlightened. In his books he talks about the mind, the thinking process, the traps the mind puts you in, wisdom, on expanding consciousness, the emotional body and so on. But rarely does he mention love. How can he be enlightened if he doesn't talk about love but in a rare instance. When I have watched his series on Oprah I notice that he seems to use self hypnosis seemingly drawing for a revisited alter state that he has conditioned himself to experience. Likely because he meditated a great deal and withdrew into his mind rather than settling into his heart. The value in Eckhart's teaching is that he points out how the mind interferes with experiencing reality.
Awakened reality that is. But true consciousness is the experience of love in an awakened state grace.
god bless you all,
Ariadne |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 521108
1/31/2009 12:03 AM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
Eckard Tolle gets his shtick from Werner Erhard's EST back in the day. Powerful stuff. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 600684
1/31/2009 12:09 AM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
Hungry for what? More ideas? More food for thought?
Tolle doesn't speak about a lot of things. He rarely mentions the word 'God' either because it's pointless to do so. When you or I say the word God to ourselves or to another person an image is formed in our minds of what God is, the same with the word love.
The word, nor the image, ARE God nor Love.
What Tolle attempts to do is help you to become aware of the ego - not to rid yourself of it, but to go beyond it to the stillness where you will directly experience the reality of Love and God.
I found that if you digest what Eckhart is saying your still hungry. Quoting: ariadneg33 592582 |
| Eddy
User ID: 615979
2/16/2009 2:47 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
Anything Oprah reccommends is of the Devil. Quoting: 19.47 373515
Wow - You are embarrassing real Christians. Oprah has done many kind and generous things for many, many people. If you have contributed anywhere near what she has to the world at large (jobs, schools, vast charitable contributions, etc.) then you can criticize even though it isn't exactly a Christian pursuit. Otherwise, who are you to judge and judge with such vitriol and ignorance? |
| truth_leader
User ID: 621117
2/23/2009 6:00 AM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
The Bible warns us all to be on the guard for those who are cunning, crafty deceivers, heretics and false teachers such as Eckhart Tolle.
Ephesians 4:14
That we [henceforth] be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
2 Petter 2:1-3
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; and in {their} greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
Eckhart Tolle uses Biblical scripture in order to "make a point". He does this often but be aware that his interpretation of scripture is inaccurate to put it kindly. Putting it bluntly, he pretty much takes scripture out of context, and uses it as pretext to support his heretical teachings. Tolle has no honest understanding of the proper use and context of scripture. Any basic Bible study student can see that right away.
Now we all know that the Bible says what it says, and God meant it to say what it says. And a passage of scripture from the Bible says the same thing to everyone. It does NOT say something different to each individual. An essentially literal translation of the Bible taken plainly and for all it is worth says exactly the same thing to everyone. Tolle and many others like him don't have the basic understanding of Biblical hermeneutics and so he basically makes himself sound like a fool when he tries to make scripture say something that it doesn't say.
And those of you who think that there are many paths that lead to God and/or heaven I ask you to consider what Jesus Himself said about that:
Matthew 7:13-14
Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
and
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
There seems to be a whole lot of people on the road of new-age, post modern, enlightenment, and "awakening" to the "now" and "being" and prosperity and healing and so on and so forth. Eckhart Tolle, Oprah Winfrey, Tony Parsons, Joel Osteen, Benny Hinn, Rob Bell, Doug Pagent and the list goes on. Is this the broad way?
Just keep in mind that you are NOT the "I AM" in scripture. God and only God is the "I AM" in the Bible. Eckhart Tolle would have you believe that you are your own god or, that you are the "I Am". But, make no mistake, you are not. God is God and you are NOT.
Truth is truth. Just because you don't believe the truth doesn't make it go away. And just believing that truth is "relative" does not make it "relative". Truth is fixed and unchanging. Truth is the same for you as it is for me.
Revelations 21:8
But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
One last thing. If there is even the slightest chance that the Bible is true, then based on just the above few passages of scripture, don't you think you ought to at least consider what the Bible teaches about sin, righteousness, judgement and hell. Jesus warned us about hell more times in the Bible than He taught us about heaven. Don't you think it might be a good idea to find out what He means by "the second death"?
Oh. You don't believe it. Well then, I guess that makes it all go away now doesn't it?
May God Bless each and every one of you with the truth. |
| truth_leader
User ID: 621117
2/23/2009 6:06 AM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
Now I also want to address those of you who believe that Jesus came to bring peace and joy and happiness and love and that we Christians should just love everybody and be peace makers and spread peace and love and joy and on and on and on....
Matthew 10:34
Jesus said, "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."
Jesus Himself used the sword of the Law many times to get right at the heart of mans problem, which is sin. Jesus doesn't care if your feelings get hurt or if you become offended by the Truth. He desires for you to know the truth and be set free. That's how much He loves you. The truth is we are all sinners and do not deserve eternal life in heaven with him. Mainly because we have all broken His standards for eternal life. He wants us to understand that none of our good works or effort will ever pay for the sins that we have committed. The only payment God will accept is the death of Christ on the cross. We are saved by God's Grace through Faith in Christ alone, not by our good works!(Ephesians 2:8-9) Christ alone made it possible to have eternal life.
The remainder of that passage talks about how He (Jesus) came to separate those who believe from those who don't. It does NOT tell a story about how He came to "unite" which is what some apostate teachers teach.
He brought a "sword" to separate believers from non-believers. What is the sword? The sword is His Word, the Bible (Ephesians 6 - The whole armor of God)
Please study your Bibles like He tells you to so you can get it right next time. |
| truth_leader
User ID: 621117
2/23/2009 6:34 AM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
furthermore,
I want to address this notion that one must "do" something in order to be saved (that is granted forgiveness and eternal life). Some of you seem to be suggesting that in order to enter heaven you must do certain things.
Please examine Ephesians 2:8-9
For by Grace you have been saved through faith and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God not as a result of works so that no man may boast.
1. What are we saved by? God's Grace
2. What is Grace? undeserved and unmerited favor.
3. Through what? Faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ on the cross, His death, burial, resurrection and ascension.
4. Not of ourselves? That's right, you didn't die on the cross, Jesus did for you.
5. It is the gift of God? That's right, it's free and requires nothing in return.
6. not as a result of works? Again, it is a free gift which does not require anything in return from you. If you tried to repay it by good works He won't accept those good works. A gift is a gift and it's free.
Besides, all our righteous acts are like filthy rages. (Isaiah 64:6)
Belief, Faith, Grace, Forgiveness, Salvation. All are free gifts from God. Baptism is done in obedience to Christ as a public profession of Faith in Christ. It is not done in order to achieve salvation. You are saved first, then you are to be baptized. Baptism is not a requirement for salvation. If it were a requirement, then we would be saved by works. But, we are not and therefore it is not required.
Our good works as Christians flow out of our gratefulness and obedience to Christ as a result of salvation, not in order to earn salvation. It doesn't matter how many good deeds Oprah Winfrey or anyone else does in this life, no amount of good works will earn you eternal life. This, my friends, is the GREATEST LIE SATAN EVER TOLD!
Furthermore, if Oprah or anyone else chooses to promote false teachers and heretics like ET, she will have to give an account of that to God on judgement day.
Just because you don't believe it doesn't make it all go away.
Christians, please get it right lest we all look like fools in the eyes of the world. Some of you sound like you're not even saved yet. |
| Katerina B
User ID: 62398
2/23/2009 1:50 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
Hi fellows!
I have been going through nearly all Ekhart's books but what he is explaining misses the mark. Doesn't quite fit. Isn't the whole... Whatever!
Because we are all made in God's image but through separation (self - sin - missing the mark, whatever it's called, it still stops us from wholeness, BEING!)we have this ego - MYself - thinking of I as (an)'other'.
When you are aware of The Other, ie 'God' and 'Me' that is separation. Jesus said I and My Father are One. What Jesus is by nature we are by participation. Even sitting on a chair (a doing!) is participation! What you are eluding to and can't quite embody is what Orthodox Christian spirituality (handed on down the centuries with no broken line) call DEIFICATION. Action of The Other and the I, but there is 3!
The "heart" is NOT the ego. The heart is the seat of being.
Or put in actual words, the 'nous'(a greek word of description). Generally 'nous' can be translated as spirit or eye of the soul but that's not where it begins or ends - paradoxically!
Look up how many times we are to use our heart (nous)in recalling being back into THE ONE how we are to LIVE- participation in this moment and this one and this one...etc... as found in the example of The Gospels and The first commandment. By putting the ego into the heart and using the sword of Spirit it happens!
The Other and I are ONE. Participation everywhere, everything. All is whole, All is healed, All is!
I AM.
"I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last."
ONE is Holy One is Lord, Jesus Christ to the Glory of God the Father. Amen. |
| Kurt Kurt
User ID: 656282
4/13/2009 7:29 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
Ekhart Tolle
by Roger Friedman, Fox News
Oprah Winfrey may have gone too far in exploiting
and distributing the teachings of a questionable
New Age writer.
On Monday night, Winfrey conducted her weekly
Web "event" seminar with New Age writer Eckhart
Tolle. His message: "Life is the dancer and
you are the dance."
Got that?
The seminar was No. 7 in a series of 10.
On the first 90-minute Webcast with Tolle,
Oprah extolled the author’s virtues, calling
his best-selling "New Earth" book "one of
the most important books of our time," the
seminars one of "the most exciting things I’ve ever
done."
Imagine that Winfrey considers her
conversations with Tolle, a man with a
shady and un-checkable background, more
important than her schools in Africa and
Mississippi for underprivileged children, more
important than her Angel Charity network or her
zillion-dollar syndicated TV show. Tolle must be
something else!
But it’s not like Winfrey is endorsing
Maya Angelou or Toni Morrison, serious,
educated artists with portfolios. Tolle is more
like Kilgore Trout, Kurt Vonnegut’s science-fiction
crackpot alter-ego.
for Winfrey is that for the first time in her
much-applauded Book Club’s history, she’s gone
into business with the author. And the author is
not one of a novel, memoir or cookbook; he’s the
mysterious creator of a philosophy that Winfrey
endorses and suggests her readers live their lives by.
But is Eckhart Tolle an appropriate spiritual
leader? He told an interviewer that he stopped
going to school at age 13 and didn’t resume any
education for at least a decade. In the same
interview he says he graduated "with the highest
mark at the London University."
The press rep at the University of London says
there’s simply no way to verify that. "You might
as well say you graduated from here," joked the person
I spoke to. Clever.
He says in interviews that he had a personal epiphany
in 1977 at age 29 after a life of suffering from
suicidal depression. (A typical story of spiritual fakes)
For the next 15 years, no one
knows much about what happened to him,
and he’s not saying. He says he spent time
wandering and sitting in London’s parks, with
"no relationships, no job, no home, no socially
defined identity," but a sense of "intense joy."
In seminar 1, Oprah’s new guru tells her:
"I was living in England, and I had this strong
impulse one morning … I had to move to the West Coast
of North America without knowing why … So I moved to
Vancouver and then I took a Greyhound bus to California,
knew only one or two people, and I said,
'Why am I here?'"
"Three weeks passed, somebody put me up in
a room near San Francisco, and suddenly this came.
I bought a notepad and suddenly the strong stream
came through and I wrote, 'What Is Enlightenment?'
The beginning of 'The Power of Now.' The moment
I wrote that, I knew this is the book that wants
to be born. So rather than me wanting to write a
book, there was a book that wanted to be written."
And so on.
Oprah’s response to this: "It’s like Michelangelo
says the angel’s in the marble and he just cuts
away the marble."
Well, not quite.
His books, "The Power of Now" and "A New Earth,"
are the same gobbledygook as most New Age stuff.
They’re all about self-empowering and how to find out
who we are. "Awakening" is Tolle’s key word.
Tolle is very busy enforcing moments of silence
and showing his readers how to find their "pain-body."
Nothing new there. And nothing new for Oprah,
who’s now so wildly wealthy that she’s exceeded
literally any famous person she might interview.
Parade magazine puts her 2007 income at $260 million,
the most of any celebrity and $150 million more than
Steven Spielberg, the most successful filmmaker of
all time. So what can she do besides start a religion?
Indeed, Winfrey already has flirted with several
cult-like New Age deals. She’s enthusiastically
embraced the Scientology celebrities like Tom
Cruise and John Travolta. She’s even gone into
business with Kirstie Alley, whom she’s planning to
give a forum in her own talk show.
She’s also promoted televangelist
Marianne Williamson’s kooky "Course of Miracles"
and a book of New Age clichés by Australian
Rhonda Byrne called "The Secret."
(There’s a good piece on the latter at salon.com.)
Winfrey is nothing if not gifted at
recognizing what’s already popular in the
culture and exploiting it. But her association
with Tolle is way over the top. It involves s
ponsorships with General Motors (Chevy), 3M Corp.
(Post-Its) and Skype Internet phone service.
In one broad stroke, she’s managed to accomplish
what Scientology never has achieved: bringing
corporate America’s implicit approval into religion.
What’s interesting is not so much Tolle, with
his German accent and blank stare, proselytizing
his nonsense. He talks a lot, literally, about
looking at flowers and trees in a new way, much
like Chauncey Gardner in "Being There."
It’s more about Oprah herself, free associating,
selling out her own world as she gushes over
those flowers and trees. For example, in
seminar 1, she socks it to Hollywood, the
source of 50 percent of her guests.
This is the same Oprah who does a live
special the day after the Oscars and
often plugs the worst films just to get ratings.
In that segment, Oprah seems to
forget who she is to score points
with Tolle, or rationalize why she’s
involved in this beyond the corporate money being reaped:
"Everyone complains about the media and the
movies. I mean, if you just look at the
Academy Awards this year, and the kinds of
movies that were made this year, and
it’s all a reflection of who we are. You
say in the book," Winfrey says to Tolle,
"that we’re the species that will go and
watch people be maimed and killed and
murdered for our entertainment."
We can assume she wasn’t talking about
"Juno," "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly,"
"The Savages," "Enchanted," "Atonement,"
"La Vie En Rose," "Michael Clayton,"
"Elizabeth: The Golden Age," "Into the Wild,"
"Away from Her" or "Charlie Wilson’s War" — all
films that had nominations. Just three
films featured overt violence this year —
"No Country for Old Men," "There Will Be Blood"
and "Sweeney Todd."
But it’s the zealous excitement in Winfrey’s
eyes when she says it that makes the difference.
Those three films are now the whole Academy Awards, and therefore "the media." You can already feel hearts pounding! She’s right! Hollywood had better look at flowers and trees in a new way.
What makes Oprah’s seminars even more creepy are the
"study groups" she has lined up for Tolle at
bookstores and other locations around the world.
They’re all hooked up to the seminars through Skype,
and the members can ask questions. They all have
that same glazed-over look as people giving
testimonials on late-night infomercials.
"I consider this to be a sacred moment when
we can all come together … and share in this work,"
Winfrey says at the start of seminar
6. And why not? You’ll notice that she, not Tolle,
has the sole copyright on the broadcasts.
Ka ching!
But don’t worry about Eckhart Tolle.
His "power of now" is all about his store.
All roads lead to his merchandise, which is
prominently featured on his Web site and
accessed from Oprah’s.
His is a costly philosophy. Books,
tapes, DVDs — all of it becomes quite
expensive when added up, making Tolle no
different than Scientology, Kabbalah or
any other shiny new religion. Tolle even
sells teaching tools "for professionals" —
"A Guide for the Spiritual Teacher and
Health Practitioner" — even though it’s
unclear what is the basis of his own
educational background.
Are we supposed to take this seriously?
As Tolle, himself, says to Oprah,
"It’s better to laugh at madness." |
| Anonymous Coward
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5/10/2009 5:30 AM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
Decided to get the book after hearing Oprah talk about it and so far it's blowing me away. I'm a Christian, so I'm not sure about how much of this I want to take in from a man who apparently seems to think Jesus was just a teacher like Buddha, but the book is actually giving me some new insight into Scripture such as Gal. 2:20 "I have been crucified with Christ, so I no longer live but Christ lives in me..." The "I" in the verse would represent the ego and "Christ" the indwelling Holy Spirit, "I am", the Eternal Now.
Any thoughts on the book or author? Quoting: F.R.O.G.
Hi, this is my first post and i wanna reply to your post in particular.
I have been on and off my Christian walk for quite some time now. I have fought with "my own worst enemy" all my life, and I have never won until now.
Lemme give you a little background...just don't freak out k lol!
I was seriously addicted to sex, lies and videotape(literally). These 3 vices nearly destroyed me as well as my marriage and none of the counseling or church-going did anything.
No matter how many times I went to the altar to beg forgiveness, to accept Christ as my savior and to feel the hands of fellow church members on my should feeling sorry/praying for me...nothing worked. It's as if in the back of my mind I could hear someone laughing at me saying "you're gonna fail again! I own you!"
It got so bad that I would yell at my own reflection in the mirror! "LEAVE ME ALONE! GO AWAY!!" Crying out to God to "make me clean!" I truly was my own worst enemy.
One day I was at Target with my wife and I strolled into the CD/books section alone. I got bored and I walked to the kids books section, and I stood there checking out all the neat book gems. That's when I noticed a book out of place. That book was "The Power of Now" and it was tucked away behind a few other books.. My wife was ready to check out and I was gonna put the book back, but something told me to get the book. Now keep in mind, I don't watch TV and I've never even heard of Tolle. It was a complete impulse buy.
I began reading it that night, and the first 3 chapters hit me like a ton of bricks. Like a power switch had just been activated in my brain, and I realized that it was my ego that had been causing all my suffering my whole life! As I continued to read over the next few weeks, my progress accelerated. Months later, not only is my mind and body at peace and health, but my relationships are truly blossoming. I no longer hunger for the addictions I had. The lies have stopped. My worrying and stress are gone. My appreciation for life itself has been magnified a thousand times compared to the life I was living. If and when the voice in the head pops up it gets weaker and weaker everytime. My heart and soul go into immediate prayer and stillness, and that alone has brought a real balance and peace to my life.
The Power of Now brought the words of the New Testament to life for me. Scriptures that were empty are now full of meaning and value. Life is flowing for me now, where before I was living in the past and scared of the future. Eckhart's work is simply a tool to help understand the truth nothing more.
If the core of these teaching were false, then why is every aspect of my life changing for the better? There are a few areas in the book where he mentions Christ, and leaves him out of the equation but that is where I make the connection between Christ's words and the Power of Now. Maybe to reach a wider audience?? Who knows?
My own life changes speak for themselves, and to me that is all the proof I need that. Each person may be effected differently or not at all. We all have the ability to discern truth from lies, and you'll know both when you hear them. This book doesn't claim to be the truth, but it does help you find the path to it. And because I simply picked up a book on a whim my outlook on life has changed and my walk with Christ is stronger than it ever was before. And for that I am humbled and thankful. |
| Jumpsuit
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5/10/2009 5:43 AM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
Strange, that was my post but my UserName didn't show up. |
| O
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7/1/2009 11:23 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
Every Good |
| ALeopardSanctuary
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7/2/2009 12:29 AM
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Alright so there are two types of new earth or new age individuals...
Those who don't know their ass from hole in the ground blithering I was am part of the NEW AGE group and that means I was part of a cult.
Then there are those who realize "new age" was just the new term for ancient nature practices coming to light which were there all along. They know how to be one with the great outdoors and be a sensible pagan.
Brother sun, intuition moon. Home at the forest.
Sure every post I have mentions goat blood...How do you think we get plasma tv's?
Organic needs are being assaulted. I'm not amused by this & encourage all to grow heirloom seed for themselves.
The garden gives greatest power.
Diabetes curing food list [Forget the FDA - Think for yourself]:
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| Dometheus 
What are you looking at Butthead!
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7/2/2009 10:16 AM
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Another book , by another person who "again" Thinks they have thier finger on the pulse of what is going on. Instead they have the Finger shoved way up thier ass "AGAIN".
No one knows what the future holds or happens after you die except for the person who has died. Period.
Wake me when Elvis returns.
Oh and Opera is no different.
When policemen break the law, then there isn't any law - just a fight for survival. -Billy Jack |
| zmaxpex
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7/29/2009 2:10 AM | | Scully
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7/29/2009 10:00 AM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
OP....I'd be so interested in a review or opinion of Conversations with God Books 1-3. If you'd be so kind to read it and let me know. Ive always been agnostic until this. Whats your take on it all? Link;
[link to www.scribd.com] |
| Anonymous Coward
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7/29/2009 12:01 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
The Power of Now and A New Earth are probably the most beneficial books I have ever read. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 254761
7/29/2009 12:27 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
But NEW AGE is a cash cow business and doesn't mind you forwarding your $ to it, instead of the church. Quoting: Sumati Talveer
And you don't think Christianity is? |
| sexshippex
User ID: 727039
8/4/2009 7:12 AM | | my two cents
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8/4/2009 8:29 AM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
I tend to be wary of any phenomenon like this that becomes universally popular -- "The Secret"..."A Course in Miracles"...and Tolle.
However, I have been following a "presence" teacher who's probably similar to Tolle, just without all the hoopla and merchandise and universal acclaim - Leonard Jacobson.
It's a basic message and certainly not new, as there was a guy on the radio 30 years ago saying the same thing.
It's just about "being present"... in the "now"... as opposed to how we spend our lives most of the time - lost in our heads either rehashing the past, which we can't change, or worrying about the future, which hasn't happened yet.
There is "you" - the soul... and there is your mind, which is always trying to pull you out of the present moment with constant chatter and worry. Notice how the mind is always giving you tape loops of music playing over and over?
For those who have remarked on Tolle's dead eyes and bland, stoic expression... you will find that Leonard Jacobson has the spark of life in his eyes and face. |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 737373
8/7/2009 3:12 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
The Bible warns us all to be on the guard for those who are cunning, crafty deceivers, heretics and false teachers such as Eckhart Tolle.
Ephesians 4:14
That we [henceforth] be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, [and] cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
2 Petter 2:1-3
But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; and in {their} greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
Eckhart Tolle uses Biblical scripture in order to "make a point". He does this often but be aware that his interpretation of scripture is inaccurate to put it kindly. Putting it bluntly, he pretty much takes scripture out of context, and uses it as pretext to support his heretical teachings. Tolle has no honest understanding of the proper use and context of scripture. Any basic Bible study student can see that right away.
Now we all know that the Bible says what it says, and God meant it to say what it says. And a passage of scripture from the Bible says the same thing to everyone. It does NOT say something different to each individual. An essentially literal translation of the Bible taken plainly and for all it is worth says exactly the same thing to everyone. Tolle and many others like him don't have the basic understanding of Biblical hermeneutics and so he basically makes himself sound like a fool when he tries to make scripture say something that it doesn't say.
And those of you who think that there are many paths that lead to God and/or heaven I ask you to consider what Jesus Himself said about that:
Matthew 7:13-14
Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
and
John 14:6
Jesus said to him, "I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
There seems to be a whole lot of people on the road of new-age, post modern, enlightenment, and "awakening" to the "now" and "being" and prosperity and healing and so on and so forth. Eckhart Tolle, Oprah Winfrey, Tony Parsons, Joel Osteen, Benny Hinn, Rob Bell, Doug Pagent and the list goes on. Is this the broad way?
Just keep in mind that you are NOT the "I AM" in scripture. God and only God is the "I AM" in the Bible. Eckhart Tolle would have you believe that you are your own god or, that you are the "I Am". But, make no mistake, you are not. God is God and you are NOT.
Truth is truth. Just because you don't believe the truth doesn't make it go away. And just believing that truth is "relative" does not make it "relative". Truth is fixed and unchanging. Truth is the same for you as it is for me.
Revelations 21:8
But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death.
One last thing. If there is even the slightest chance that the Bible is true, then based on just the above few passages of scripture, don't you think you ought to at least consider what the Bible teaches about sin, righteousness, judgement and hell. Jesus warned us about hell more times in the Bible than He taught us about heaven. Don't you think it might be a good idea to find out what He means by "the second death"?
Oh. You don't believe it. Well then, I guess that makes it all go away now doesn't it?
May God Bless each and every one of you with the truth. Quoting: truth_leader 621117
Bible also says you should not kill either and yet the god of that bible commands bashing babies heads in, looting, and gettin the virgins for yourselves etc.... read it, its all in there and then come back and see if u still believe that babbling BS and fear mongering! |
| Anonymous Coward
User ID: 744478
8/7/2009 3:51 PM | | Re: What do you think of Eckhart Tolle's "A New Earth"? | Quote |
[b] He looks like ET |
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